Have Uki and Fulgur read Killing Stalking? ≪Uki Violeta | Fulgur Ovid | NIJISANJI EN≫

I know Fuu-chan has done a danmei zatsu before but I kinda want Uki to do a BL zatsudan too ngl
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[@jamnice2394]

Fuuchan not remembering who did Uki hang out with is tickling my brainworms. My brainrot intensifies.

[@sanyasan]

It might just be me but why did the “someone” sounded a little…..different 😌

[@jamnice2394]

🤝 must be my hallucination 👁️👄👁️

[@RotheAlien]

What does this mean 😂

[@jun_owo_]

ok I just want to say- there's no shame in liking Killing Stalking if you like it from a psychological horror standpoint. KS is not bl, it is not something you should romanticize.

[@jun_owo_]

also it is incredibly fxxked up so read at your own discretion. if you do like killing stalking, please keep in mind that the story is a genuine discomfort to many people, as many got tricked into reading it for bl but it ended up being really triggering.

[@chiakiclips]

Yeah, absolutely! I think a lot of people are just put off by it because it was marketed as a love story when it actually isn't. 🤔

[@jartalol31]

The problem is people think BL are just gay romance and love stories. It's like saying shoujo are just highschool romance and geikomi are just all realistic portrayals of gay life by gay people. BL do actually have psychological horror and where the main leads does not necessarily have to end with each other. Most popular BL manga-ka of psychological kind is Harada. They do fucked up stuff well. Shoujo has Banana Fish and stuff like Earl Cain. Josei has Sakura Gari, etc. Japanese label their stories not accdg to genre but accdg to their market target, doesn't mean other people outside their market target can't read and enjoy it too but they are not actually considered "story genres" and they can have a variety of stories: BL, Geikomi, Yuri/GL, Shoujo Josei, Seinen, the problem is when people would recommend heavier and more shocking stuff to people who are noobs. And the most controversial ones are those that tend to reach mainstream non-BL readers due to its controversial themes.

[@yoobunny]

@@jartalol31 I feel like a lot of the time it's how ppl perceive "tags" in general. Like Evangelion is considered mecha, but to me that's psychological (horror) like how some ppl consider KS """"boys love"""" while most ppl would say that it's horror. I'm glad bcs it means media (the works themselves and the audiences) nowadays are more and more diverse so that you can't really group them into big categories anymore. It's becoming less and less logical to just shove BL into "for women/joseimuke" and GL into "for men/danseimuke" categories, even though that's still how a lot of Jpn websites divide their selections.

[@koganenokoro4361]

@@jartalol31 THANK YOU! People should be allowed to like problematic fiction or ship whatever fictional shit they want as long as it’s fiction.

[@mondchannel]

The best 'entry point' of BL I'd say is Given. No sexual act for the first volume, full of self discovery and fluff. There are many other great series I've read in the past too, but Given is good for setting the standard. Yeah, KS is definitely not it.

[@user-dd4jo9zd9d]

I didn't read the Manga, but I watched the anime, and the anime has all the good things you mentioned, but the following movie (which, to my knowledge is based on the manga)...is not entirely unproblematic.

[@hinatale2808]

Nah 😂 Given is pretty heavy for starter. Short school theme mangas like the ones from chil chil ranking is more fitting for the job

[@ellenation2294]

@@hinatale2808 hahahaha given as entry would literally traumatise the baby hahahahahaf

[@jeonjunkfood]

i wouldn't say it's pure fluff LMFAO **vague spoilers** i mean........ considering yuki.............. HAHAHAHAHA

[@iammaberandom]

Given is sad and angsty, but if that's what they like

[@LeenSeoh]

Sasaki ro miyano, Given, 7 days, When I met my husband.. all of these are GREAT BLs

[@eupnoe9371]

To be honest, I love Killing Stalking. It's definitely not marketed as BL though like many people think. It's originally phsychological horror, and it's one of the better ones out there in my opinion. Edit: I meant "BL" as in the boy love stories most people know, which is the cute or mainly wholesome ones.

[@Hazel_y10250]

Yeah it was really good.

[@Hiddinnie]

Agreed, never have I read a psychological horror where it made my heart race the way KS did and it was also one of the few stories where I couldn’t predict where it was going at first so I became hooked. It was real disappointing to see people hating on it bc it ‘romanticized’ abusive relationships, like it clearly wasn’t about romance and it’s literally showing you that from chapter 1.

[@SarahJSweetheart]

It's definitely a STARK warning against people who look to manipulate and control you. Obvs it's extreme/that's not what irl abuse looks like, but it DOES showcase typical manipulation tactics irl abusers use, that's why I liked it, it even helped me recognise how controlling and manipulative my ex was.

[@jartalol31]

It is labelled as BL thus it is BL. People just have misconception that BL is supposed to all gay romantic stories when it supposed to have variety like psychological horror

[@RotheAlien]

@@Hiddinnie the thing is romance and romanticization aren't linked nor the same thing. Does ks contain romance? Is it bl? YES the two main characters are in a relationship, whether that relationship is good, is obviously not the case lol. Now, is the abuse and toxicity ROMANTICIZED? Which means is it portrayed as if it were normal, a good thing or essential to the relationship? NO IT'S NOT. So ks is a psychological horror BL that tackles two deeply flawed main characters in a very dark story. The story talks about a dark romance and terrible crimes BUT it does not romanticize them. Nor the relationship the two characters have. Nonetheless it is still considered bl, even by the author. Hope this was of help

[@anxiouspotato04]

yeah no killing stalking is personally one of my FAVORITE psychological horror reads. left me absolutely shattered by the end. i thought it was a bl and then went "oh" but kept reading anyway cus i was hooked

[@Seraphim7_]

Honestly the first ever "bl" you could say was killing stalking and let me tell you it's pretty fvcked 💀 Honestly though I didn't mind the horror but that doesn't mean it's not fvcked up 🥰 (Shout out to my friend who recommended it to me and DECIDED NOT TO GET ME SOME TYPE OF WARNING love you)

[@reddieweeb]

Honestly I wasn't fazed until the whole "mom" stuff...that's fucked up.

[@ailingghao4498]

Ooo i miss him already ❤️

[@SabSaberhagen]

"I read a little bit of the beginning and then I had to stop". Same. I'm able to tolerate a lot of heavy stuff but not KS for some reason :')

[@sup9441]

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, Mo dao zu shi. That is my favorite.

[@pumperias]

i actually like killing stalking, but I don't treat it as BL, i love psychological horror stuffs since i study psychology and the characters are very interesting esp bec i have friends who like to debate abt the two main characters and i like hearing opinions but i had no idea ppl actually admire sangwoo 👁️👁️

[@Nookshush]

you just like me frfr

[@iammaberandom]

I do like Sungwoo, he is a complicated and interesting character

[@pumperias]

@@iammaberandom he is! he's interesting in terms of how he was written i would say, i meant that i didn't expect that people would romanticize him and yoonbum and act as if their relationship is admirable.

[@RotheAlien]

@@pumperias I have never seen people do that lol when i see ppl shipping them they always know it's effed up lmao

[@jakwelayn7489]

The funny thing that happened to me tho was the first ever boy to boy story I read was KS then I started reading actual fluffy BL . It's funny cuz it's like I went backwards on being a fujoshi.

[@lawrent]

based opinion from Uki

[@maajoramu913]

killing stalking is soo good as a psychological horror manhwa tho

[@_ren4682]

the first bl i red was Painter of the Night and then next is, Killing Stalking 😅 hhaahha

[@Kainstargazer]

Same!

[@berryriirii8725]

Since there's a lot of people recommending more wholesome stories, I'll recommend some darker ones if you liked KS. Remember to check the tags/warnings/reviews before reading! - The Warehouse (manhwa) - The 188 series (novel) - Checkmate (manhwa) - The Black Mirror (manhwa) - Most of Harada's manga - Nitro+chiral VNs (Togainu no Chi, Sweet Pool, Dramatical Murder) - At the End of the Road/What Lies at the End (manga) - Ten Count (manga) - Don't Pick Up Boyfriends from the Trash Bin (novel) - The Earth is Online (novel) - ZENO (RPG horror game; not exactly BL but might as well be) And there's tons of people who DO consume and enjoy dark stuff. No need to feel bad about liking it. Just take a look at ao3 lmao

[@erilayne260]

As long as you don't apply the dark stuff in real life, then you're good

[@serosss5708]

@@erilayne260 agree on that.

[@beelzemobabbity]

The black mirror is Soo good. Ine of the best psychological bl ive read in a while that wasnt just a ton of gore rape and toxicity.

[@cronchy_bakingsoda]

I read killing stalking in middle school. I definitely regret reading it that young. I had a friend recommend it to me (they were also in middle school) I don’t remember getting much of a warning other than maybe “it’s fucked up, you should read it”

[@harrzzard]

oh god killing stalking is the polar opposite of what u should recommend someone if they wanted to start reading bl cuz that is not even a bl, it's psychological horror that just has two guys as the main characters. it's an incredibly amazing peice of work for people who consume that type of genre but if you cant handle gore, murder, violence and other more fucked up shit then ⚠️ IT IS NOT FOR YOU ⚠️. i personally suggest looking through bl stories that has combination tags of romance, slice of life, school life, drama, comedy, or shounen ai cuz those tend to be more wholesome and cute. upon checking those out you can venture through tags that are more out there like stories that has combination tags of romance, yaoi, psychological, tragedy, adult, smut and etc. thats it for my ted talk lmao

[@likewize272]

I love that serie. Pretty dramatic one. Got my heart beating really fast by the thriller of getting caught and killed.

[@berryriirii8725]

Oh yeah, Killing Stalking is definitely not the best introduction into BL if it's even considered one lol. I think it's fine to like media with fucked up shit though. I had a wild ride with Harada's manga. Sometimes it's nice to try something different from vanilla stuff; both can be good :)

[@elliesart_]

Killing Stalking isn't even BL that's the thing

[@omindivinoja0789]

Ngl, I'm too much into psychological thrillers. When it comes to bl it always goes to very explicit scenes. Even after reading so many like that Killing stalking is still one of the best I've ever read.

[@hualianlover9514]

To anyone interested in bl. There's a kdrama cherry blossom after winter based on the manhwa. If you read the manhwa it's quite wholesome until chapters 50-60 and up, it gets unseiso.

[@iammaberandom]

I've read it up until they got a job ang working but haven't progress since then. Where can I watch the drama ver?

[@arielamartinez143]

Bruhv killing stalking was crazy, would never recommend it to someone who is looking for a good BL, it's too dark, but it was still an interesting read, did leave mentally broken though. Anyways, anyone wondering a good BL would be something like Sasaki to Miyano which is vanilla and has a good and funny story, or Given which has a lovely story with drama and good relationship developments. Spicier stuff I will not mention but I can hit you up if you want

[@patgg522]

*I see sangwoo and yoonbum* *I click to watch* Ty for the clip!

[@bakasso8484]

Yes it's kinda serious fucked up. I just read the first chapter and I noped out of there real quick .

[@chimmiebomb]

I’ve read the majority of killing stalking. I thought it was a bl at first too but then… yeah they’re not lying when they said it’s a psychological horror. I honestly thought it was pretty good but it’s extremely fucked up. Don’t be fooled by it’s BL tag

[@Mad_orange]

i enjoyed reading KS, it was one of the first psychological horror manhwa I dared to read and one of the works that really scared me and always keep me on my toes every updates and put me in a spiral of emotions... a lot. anyways, the author really did a great job in portraying the emotions in each character, the atmosphere and dread in every panel, i thoroughly enjoyed that shit. But yes, keep in mind it's not BL, no healthy romance at all. i remember it raised some confusion when this was still on-going ('till this day) and the author had to keep reminding the readers that is not BL xD just a fucked up horror shit. a really good fucked up horror shit imo.

[@iammaberandom]

Are all BL must always be about healthy relationships?

[@Mad_orange]

@@iammaberandom No, Not really.

[@luciandelle]

To people whos looking for some good BL to start off with here are my personal favorites -Sasaki To Miyano -Hirano To Kagiura{ same author} -Umibe No Etranger (probably one of the most realistic BL) -Given (be ready to feel angst though) -Fading First Love (live action and manga, my personal favorite couple out of the list) If youd like more I have A LOT to recommend, not just manga, im a fluffy BL consumer

[@mikoboke8923]

I fully agree killing stalking is in no way bl but psychological horror (massive spoilers ahead if you haven’t read it) I love these kind of stories about psychological horror and in my opinion killing stalking is by far one of the best I’ve ever read, it’s an amazing storyline with many different twist and turns which is exactly what im looking for in psychological horror. Killing stalking amazed me in many ways from not being able to predict what was going to happen next to Yoon-bum not being all so innocent either(as seen in chapter 1 where is shown that he is a stalker and broke into Sangwoo’s house) to the troubles of psychological issues such as potential Stockholm syndrome(from Yb’s view point seeing So in ways that can’t be understood from others because they lack in desperation) to the twist of Sangwoo’s childhood and him seeing his mom in Yoon-bum to the parts where he himself starts caring about Yoon-bum more deeply. I don’t get triggered by anything and i hardly cry when i read angst because i read angst as my main hobby but the ending here really broke me. Sangwoo dying while screaming Yoon-bum’s name in the hospital to Yoon-bum hallucinating Sangwoo on the street causing him to run into the traffic it was amazing. It was so sad and it made me bawl my eyes out but that’s exactly what I’m looking for when i read psychological horror. I have seen other comments here about being sad that people hate on the work because it “romanticises ” abuse even tho it doesn’t and i fully agree, it doesn’t romanticise it at all, everyone that has read the work should be well aware of that, the work focuses on the way the two main characters meet, live together (involuntarily) and how their relationship develops until they eventually die both their deaths having been caused by the other. A relationship doesn’t mean a romantic connection, it simply means that two characters are connected to each other in a way. Yoon-bum suffers in my opinion from Stockholm Syndrom which is a really good way of writing the story because it can actually happen in the real world. Stockholm Syndrom would explain why Yoon-bum resisting in the beginning and trying to run away to having found a connection between him and Sangwoo due to being kept there so long. By that time he doesn’t even think of running away and exposing him anymore, the slightest things that Sangwoo started allowing him to do may not be important to us but to Yoon-bum it is life changing, in that situation these tiny things feel to him like Sangwoo is treating him perfectly good. If you are interested in these type of stories I’d definitely recommend reading it you might also like “Blind play” it is pretty similar to killing stalking, by far not as good but really interesting none the less. Thank you for taking your time to read this have a good night/day.

[@ori3333]

forced myself to read it cause my old friend liked it turns out after i read the WHOLE THING she hadn’t even read it she just saw stuff on tiktok about it😭

[@jeelorz]

I mean look at my pfp 😆 I love Bum so much that I drew him and made him my pfp for how many years now 🖤

[@annananae]

never read KS but have similar experience with painter of the night. read few chap and decides that's not for me 😅

[@SleepyAppl]

I am still reading painter of the night. Takes time get around it but happy on where they are now in terms of feelings. But KS not BL. Just trauma. Even when they were doing the nasty feels like any second something is going to go wrong.

[@harucat543]

i can recommend some pretty good ones for beginners NOW, but would it be bad to say that MY entry of ANY kind of manga, manhwa etc actually WAS Killing Stalking…

[@jartalol31]

Killing Stalking is BL. It is labelled as BL in Lezhin thus it is considered BL. People just have misconception that BL should only have healthy gay romantic stories when it always had variety, including psychological horror even if the two male leads are not meant to end up to be together or just one or two of them die. I side eye people who automatically rec KS though for BL because as much as I enjoyed the psychological horror BL that it is in first season, it's not honestly something you immediately rec to unsuspecting people? Did these people actually read it or heard of it because it is infamous and have reached some sort mainstream familiarity about it? Somehow I feel like these people just haven't read enough. It's like when people new to anime ask for recs and people looking to troll will recommend something to traumatize them. I never actually finished this BL webtoon because how quickly both the fans and its haters just annoyed me with always bringing it up.

[@bilbilkiiumm4702]

For me Killing stalking is a great story if you like dark story with gay couples. Don’t expect any kind of fluffy boys LOVE in this story and Spoiler!!! Spoiler!!! Spoiler!!! Spoiler!!! spoiler!!!!! Don’t expect happy ending 🥲

[@sai8476]

Indeed... It's a very fucked up story. But I also think it's mainly sad as well... The ending... It's just heartbreaking... Of course, a crime is a crime nonetheless, but as a third party, a reader, that knows of the full story of the main characters' lives, especially sangwoo, I personally feel sad and pity for him.

[@bilbilkiiumm4702]

@@sai8476 yeah no one was born evil from the first place😢

[@soyamilk5082]

I read the first season and the amount of hate i have towards sangwoo is something i don't even feel w my real life past abusers IT REALLY IS THAT BAD

[@orangegarden4689]

some pretty harmless BL recommends :] (may include some drama tho) Given, Tonari no metaller-san, I hear the sunspot, Our dining table, Seaside Stranger

[@jellyfishbeans94]

Haha… don’t mention the mother in the wall 👩

[@pangolin_aed5617]

The reason I'm not into killing stalking even I like dark painful angst story is because they just pure fuk up like it's kinda real triggering if people not preparing they mentality to read pychological horor Because when you know it's pychological horor you will not have shock point. But I know a lot people read it when in they mind it's BL that's why it's so shocking. For me BL which is so good is Given, read it as fans of gusari. She's is just genius in my opinion And Kings maker is really good as manhwa BL

[@ThePlagueDoctor_or_SCP049]

I saw the title of the video and prayed to God… *I’m atheist…*

[@Bb-bg8gf]

I LOVE KS! But not as a romance or bl- but as great climatic psychological horror.

[@chaodie]

i gotchu uki, that so mess up holy shit, this manhwa it not give me traumatize but it's make you go like "nah mate imma skip that shit"

[@yvexmillana8946]

I love killing stalking ..

[@kodoku_opia]

is it bad that i’ve read killing stalking twice and not even got a bad stomach from the shit i saw

[@bantaka]

I read KS out of spite a few years ago because people on tumblr were saying that it was the worst thing ever and anyone who didn't hate it was an abuse apologist lmao. A couple scenes kinda grossed me out but overall it wasn't that bad, read the synopsis and check the warnings and if there's anything that triggers you/makes you uncomfortable then just don't read it.

[@xisuee]

To people saying KS is not BL please don't spread this misconception, under official publishers it is labeled BL w other tags. BL like other genres has a variety of stories/subgenres, KS is not the only one of its kind or new to that. Harada, Psyche Delico are very popular authors with BL stories in the same vein. KS is certainly pretty hardcore/tw and would not be recommended as an entry read, but please do not sanitize the genre to just fluff, sex or positive romance when authors and publishers have never treated it that way. This would also help people to not fall into reading BL with wrong assumptions. The category of BL seems better described as encompassing anything involving romantic relationships between guys, that includes toxic ones. It's only recently that there are now a lot more diverse stories with healthy relationships but frankly you still find many tropes present such as romanticizing nonconsent.

[@shirendjorgee9320]

From what I’ve heard, the main problem was that newbies to bl who watched fluffy stuff like Yuri on Ice immediately got recommended Killing Stalking as if it was a story in the same vein when it’s clearly not. And some of these people were pretty young and some started genuinely romanticizing the relationship.

[@xisuee]

@@shirendjorgee9320 gosh that just makes it worse since despite what we want it to be and it could've, YOI was never labelled a BL, it was labelled just Sports

[@yikesmydude5641]

Except it’s only marketed like that so people will read it, the author has explicitly stated that while interpreting the relationship is “up to the reader” their intent was ALWAYS that it was an abusive psychological horror/thriller. Many publishing companies and such will market anything with “gay shit” in it as “BL” or “GL” because it makes more people read it. BL is supposed to be romantic, but KS is not that. While BL can of course have unhealthy stuff in it to, it’s always centrally focused on the romantic relationship or connection between two or more characters. KS is marketed as one for profits sake, but doesn’t fit the actual description, even though like you said BL can also contain stuff like angst and trauma, not just good things. I’d recommend the video essay on KZbin by James Somerton, which goes into a lot of detail about this stuff.

[@unithecutest2994]

Wait... am i the only one who love these kinds of genre? They r stunning and unpredictable and amazing and apealing in their own ways Btw the author has comfirmed that killing stalking was actually bl so ... ~~ yeahh

[@ThePlagueDoctor_or_SCP049]

Personally, I like Killing Stalking because it is unlike any manwha I have seen, where both main characters have psychological issues, the horror is incredible and honestly the story is thrilling and gripping. I read and wat h a lot of horror or crime series for the psychological background of the characters and BOY! It is genuinely interesting. I started The Dahmer biopic series on Netflix and it is incredible how the profiles have similar backgrounds or catalysts when it is not a case of psychopathy… all I can say is *READ KILLING STALKING AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION AND PREFERABLY IF YOU ARE 18+. I FINISHED THE MAWHA AND IT IS TRIGGERING FOR MANY PEOPLE.*

[@RotheAlien]

I know some people are gonna boo me for this take but I see a lot of misinformation so: Bl isn't meant to romanticize, bl is just that. Boys love. A love story can be horror, it can be a bad story, a bad romance (lol) bl isn't meant to talk about what an ideal romantic relationship is. Bl is just fiction, and as such, it can be about whatever! The story itself doesn't romanticize to0xic relationships and neither do the readers that say it's bl. The problem is when people are like "this is what irl romance should be" and guess what ? No one does that! I'm tired of people wanting bl to be just cutsie, slice of life stories that remove the depth and tridimensionality of what mlm and queer media CAN BE. We want slice of life fluff? WE HAVE IT! We want horror, mystery and evil main characters? WE CAN HAVE THAT TOO. Why limit ourselves??? Wanna argue? Let's take archivist's fave danmei mo dao zu shi! That novel is 70% horror and mystery and necromancy and also a critic to society and 30% romance. Following the belief that bad romance bl cannot be bl because it's more about the horror than the romance, then mdzs shouldn't be bl either. AND YET. If a story isn't to your taste, don't worry! There are countless of fluffy love stories more normal than KS 😂 I personally read it because I wanted a cool story with 2 main leads that were both bad and flawed! Just, be warned that as a psychological horror bl it does have very harsh scenes If you're looking for a realistic bl I can advise umibe no entrenger

[@natchann6558]

I agree with this! BL like any other genre of fiction and media is a sandbox for exploration! Authors are allowed to write complex ugly characters and strained/painful relationships even if they aren't necessarily the best portrayal of people. Stories are stories, and sometimes those stories can be of bad people doing bad things. But that doesnt strip it of its title as a BL series. This genre doesn't have to be soft and fluffy all the time. + There are so many subgenres that can go under BL. You can have horror BL, action BL, Mystery Thriller BL, Sports BL, School Life BL. Even then, these are all still BL.

[@RotheAlien]

@@natchann6558 ikr? I see people in the comments being like "anyway guys here is BETTER BL" when what they mean is just, tamer more chill bl. I'm tired of this holier than thou behaviour towards horror queer media! Just because something isn't to your taste it doesn't mean it's automatically bad but it's impossible to tell some people that

[@berryriirii8725]

Hey, just wanted to say thank you for saying this. I was starting to doubt KS was BL from these comments, but yeah it really should be considered BL since it's just a category. Killing Stalking has very clear BL scenes. I also agree with how tiring it is to see most of the comments here discussing "good BL," as if BL that explores darker content is automatically bad. Like dude, I love Sasaki to Miyano and Given, but I want some goddamn variety! I don't need wholesome and fluffy romance 24/7 because that's boring. Reading and enjoying darker content doesn't mean you'd accept it in real life either. Obviously though it shouldn't be recommended to any BL newcomers since it's intense. Also THANK YOU for bringing up Fuuchan's taste. I'm quite certain he would agree with you since he likes MXTX and 2ha and Saezuru. Hell, let's bring up Scarle who likes fictional toxic men. It sucks when people trash on "problematic BL" when it's fictional and equally, and maybe even more so, as compelling to read as fluffy romances. Sorry for ranting on your post. I just really appreciate your comment and wanted to add my thoughts.

[@berryriirii8725]

Oh, and I might as well give more dark BL recommendations that have interesting plot. Remember to check the tags/warnings/reviews before reading! - The Warehouse (manhwa) - The 188 series (novel) - Checkmate (manhwa) - The Black Mirror (manhwa) - Most of Harada's manga - Nitro+chiral VNs (Togainu no Chi, Sweet Pool, Dramatical Murder) - At the End of the Road/What Lies at the End (manga) - Ten Count (manga) - Don't Pick Up Boyfriends from the Trash Bin (novel) - The Earth is Online (novel) And there's tons of people who DO consume and enjoy dark stuff. No need to feel bad about liking it. Just take a look at ao3 lmao

[@HetaClaude]

i understand the author's hesitance to not label it as BL (the same way the creator of Yuri on Ice refuses to let the anime be promoted with the BL tag as well btw) bcos a lot of ppl will see smth tagged as bl and think, oh! i don't like that bcos it's bl and so it's likely that their hesitance to tag it as BL is smth more on the lines of "this is this kind of genre story that just features mlm characters" and not "this isn't bl bcos it's supposed to be a reflection of x or y in mlm stories". bcos yoi and ks being not tagged as bl means they get promoted more in other categories unrelated to bl (sports, psychological horror). think, in the same way that some action stories aren't tagged with romance either, even if they have it heavily featured, bcos the "romance" is secondary to the main plot being told even if it is in the forefront.

[@koifish4276]

i like killing stalking. i like psychological horror.

[@H4ppy_sm1le]

If u want me to explain to u killing stalking i got ya bro (maybe not the bad parts of it and the okay ones only

[@AnglcA]

KS honestly is so interesting and pretty exciting and good tho, yeah it is f*cked up if you see it in BL tag not recommended for anyone who like to romanticizing that kind of red red red flag persson and situation. but in psychological horror tag is a good recommendation. If you wanna good BL try Kieta Hatsukoi, Sasaki to Miyano, and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi. That is my best 3 favorite soft BL so far.

[@ChaChaaa]

I agree Killing Stalking is pretty messed up. I did not read the whole thing but skipped the chapters and it got worse in the end.

[@jeidrod_ofk8079]

I gotta tell something, its fine if you like KS, to me is one of my favorites because of the story itself, and IT IS labeled as bl by the author herself, is just that some people think that bl is just the romantic kind of story, this one is just bl AND psychological horror at the same time 🤷

[@beelzemobabbity]

I agree with you, but it was not marketed as bl by the author.

[@Iheartemily320]

I genuinely feel bad for them when they thought killing stalking is a bl, i just finished reading it and its VERY fucked up i would not recommend unless you wanna get traumatized ❤

[@beelzemobabbity]

Its not that bad, but I definitely do not recommend it to people who dont like that kind of thing.

[@ForeverWillIBeAPageDragon]

I couldn't read it, way too much for me. Seriously though guys, don't think of it as BL because it's not. It's definitely physical horror and NOT a walk through the garden

[@SleepyAppl]

I read lots of BL but KS is not BL. But people romanticise it. There is no romance there. Just lots of trauma.

[@unithecutest2994]

Omg guys, bl not ony appears in a romance way. This just simply implies a relationship between gaymen. And killing stalking was confirmed to be a part of bl. I can understand if u say the plot fucks up, sangwoo doesnt love bum bcs he just sees him as an image of his mother. But in my own opinion, sangwoo just used to take bum as his mom's replacement, time goes and eventually sangwoo really has the feeling for bum. I can genuinely ensure that cause sangwoo tore the picture they took in the park together in order to free bum, he was affraid that bum will have to suffer the consequences if the police realizes bum is his partner in crime. And the last scene, right before the death, sangwoo keeps calling bum's name, NOT HIS MOTHER'S NAME, so i feel like finally, he can get rid of the obsession with his mom and have a real look at bum. Thats it, my perspective, btw english is not my native language so... just ingnore my spelling or grammar mistakes

[@grasyyang7531]

I'm on fulgur dada's side about killing stalking hshshhshshs. A troll that chooses to recommend KS although we know it's a pain for the new readers lol. But yeh, for me, I'd like to recommend KS because it deserves the support and the author's hardwork. But I will never promote it as BL.

[@Addyyy1310]

To me, killing stalking is a good manhwa but a really fucked up plot. It gives me a different feeling or emotions while I read that and I say I'm pretty satisfied with the manhwa 10/10. idk must be something wrong with me hahaha.

[@elwing892]

KS was tag as a bl but it's NOT. The author Koogi said it in a interview (if I'm not wrong), but lezhing tag the webtoon as a BL that why people think it is.

[@YuzUsagii]

Killing stalking is amazing, i love horror and that terrified me, but its not a romance pls don't treat it as a bl

[@XiAE01752_]

Honestly actually thought it was bl too until I realized that it was just some fucked up shit (and that they don’t really love each other? … also I had to dip it since it’s too much for me like the blood and all lol).

[@tomurakun7119]

And there's me. Who absolutely loved KS and was tricked to read it by my ex bestie at middle school lol Maybe thats why I'm so fucked up mentally... I can read gore without flinching. Edit: I saw people doing recommendation of BL. Mine honestly will be forever Junjou Romantica, manga and anime are so good.

[@hollyjollypaca]

Killing Stalking is interesting. Def not a shipping story but it’s still interesting

[@blujungi]

KS is NOT love. It's horrifying psychological horror, and it does a good job from that pov. Please do not romanticise it, its truly not ok-

[@fdk12]

Just want to point out, that storyline is coming from someone mind. Like literally a person has the mind to make a story like that. I don't know if I shoulf be impressed or worried that they can came up with such fúcked up story like that

[@miyara_]

Even it's ending is shit I don't recommend it

[@Nookshush]

dont read killing stalking unless you cant handle people hating on you for reading it or if you cant defend it speaking from experience lmao