Havertz Leads Us To 3 Points At Spurs! | Will Man City Drop Points?! | The Fourever Arsenal Podcast

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📖 CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
1:22 Tottenham 2-3 Arsenal Overall Thoughts...
15:25 The Evolution of Mikel Arteta...
23:34 The Strength of Manchester City...
37:11 Fans, Banter & Deflection...
50:54 Kai Havertz!
1:02:09 Do Manchester City Drop Points?
1:08:34 Bournemouth (H) Thoughts...
1:11:40 Prediction Table & Predictions
1:17:29 Comments Of The Day
#ARSBRE #ShowName #Arsenal #AFTV #Football

[@ZaaRaphz]

Ben whites shithousery throughout the game gave me so much joy, I love the man

[@zakdavid8526]

Ben White try take Vicario gloves off 😂😂 loool

[@manzsgoingin]

He’s a football twitter troll who made it playing for The Arsenal, you have to just love it 😅❤

[@fitzgram350]

Beautiful assist from Kaka to Ronaldinho. We are going places

[@mohamedabdi1802]

Kaka and Ronaldinho are compared to who?

[@Rk-xx1sg]

@@mohamedabdi1802Kai havertz and saka 😂😂😂

[@worldmedic3187]

More of a Cafú or Rivaldo

[@MrVoicemailGuy]

Lol loved this comment 😂 You might wind Turkish up with that tho 😂

[@deadlypalms]

A shame we still have Peter Shilton in goal.

[@DLJT95]

Spot on Turkish… online fans now are constantly trying to one up rivals. Before social media we use to hold off our banter to the end of the season and have a couple digs here and there. Now it’s daily. Big up you guys great pod as always 👊🏼

[@009pramod]

Jordan's partner /girlfriend came in to pass him her notes of the game she watched fully (not highlights). Jordan is such a blessed soul. l

[@tizzy345]

Waffle merchant too sometimes, dragging convos

[@deadlypalms]

He likes sex too, what a guy.

[@user-fo9hs9ep8g]

😂👍

[@OJ-ov6sw]

Did you you guys see the way Kai shoved a spurs player at the throw line 😂 ? I just love the way he doesn’t allow himself to get bullied. He is becoming a Granit Khaka that is non verbal on the pitch just action

[@samuelolaoke7188]

I saw that part😂

[@jambo1349]

Was Maddison he shoved to lol

[@detectivefabes]

XHAKA minus the red cards : ITS HAVERTZ!!!!

[@dwaynesala]

He shoved the Porto manager too 😂

[@Amberle73]

@@dwaynesala That had me in stitches, whole Porto bench was riled up & going mental at him 😂

[@aqibmalik9662]

Props to Arteta, first manager to get back to back away wins vs spurs , something Wenger couldn’t even do!

[@gwillz8551]

Just give arteta his props. Arsene Wenger diff gravy. Dnt av to compare

[@amar74199]

Arteta wishes he could do what wenger did

[@aqibmalik9662]

@@gwillz8551 that’s what I’m saying, don’t think it’s negative just goes to show it’s a hard place to win back to back lol

[@gwillz8551]

@@aqibmalik9662 oh got Yu.

[@tris87don16]

Since 1988

[@diehardgunner4844]

Ben white was having intrusive thoughts in that match. Loved it. This guy is becoming my favorite. COYG!!

[@namikhadzihasanovic]

Him and big Gabi is my favourites :) mentality spot on!!!

[@singerpour6946]

“I’ve got bad internet” was honestly genius from lee I had tears 😂😂

[@benjiradach1361]

Of course Jordan doesn't see Havertz scoring in 3-4 games: he didn't watch the last 2 games and probably won't watch the next 2 games either.

[@rickyproctor6562]

What makes Fourever Arsenal unique and the best is how it always ends on a positive note with 'comments of the day' creating a fun and beautiful fusion between the panel and viewers. Its a further high after positive results and a perfect and needed closure after bad results for us. Keep it up guys!

[@andsome2518]

Is this Jordan … ?! 🥹🍆🥴🥴🥴🥴🧹 … if so .. this is his missus .. please stop watching highlights .. and get to fixing washing machine it’s late ! P.s highlights of river dance … the arsenal highlights will be KZbind the day after the game!

[@starluck-1]

Turkish: Jordan, where’d you watch it? Jordan’s internal voice: right here while Lee was talking.

[@MrVoicemailGuy]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lukishergill9001]

You guys have created the biggest problem in football history.... im not sure how this could ever be fixed/changed.... this group of four can never be beaten. Legendary podcast, unbeatable, look forward to you every week, thanx, and love 4 the love

[@JayB948]

Thank you James for Rice criticism as well as Raya criticism. Their mistakes were equally as bad

[@Jesuslovesyouph]

It wasn’t equal 😂. Rice made a mistake…Raya was WILD

[@JayB948]

@@Jesuslovesyouph rice literally kicked ben daives in the balls for one of the worst penalties that arsenal have given away this season. The decision making was equally as bad imo

[@Jesuslovesyouph]

@@JayB948 yeah but his eye was in the ball and davies ran. I’ve seen things like that but Raya….3-0 up game is going fine and you do that wow he’s a lucky boy

[@Moleoflands]

​@@Jesuslovesyouphthe pass was fine until Romero anticipated it and blocked it.

[@JayB948]

@@Jesuslovesyouph yeah i agree but ive also seen keepers assist opposition players as well. It happens. Just dont like how people like to jump on certain players and leave their favourites alone

[@jeffbeasley8283]

Rivals keep saying Arteta has to win something or go because they're desperate to try and do anything to stop what we are building

[@TerryHoskin]

Well to be fair he is going to have to cross that line at some point. But I agree unless he completely capitulates with no reason (big injury crisis or something) we should give him another 3 years to see what he does.

[@iRunHaselburyRoad]

@@ObviouslyKieranwho’s better you have Liverpool recent cl winners getting a guy from the Dutch league. No point getting rid unless he goes backward or completely messes up

[@jamesusanashville9678]

People have manengers 10 years and win one league trophy and are praised.

[@syncopaint_minis3016]

Then they need to sack their managers first. Hypocrites

[@patrickyoung2235]

​@@ObviouslyKieran Unless there's a better manager walking through that door, you'd be mad to get rid of him. Especially with Klopp leaving and Pep's clock ticking.

[@AJF0101]

39:05 Turkish absolutely spot on here and I’m glad someone finally spoke on it. The average social media football fans are simply toxic clout chasers. The term “bottle” has completely lost its meaning, so overused and applied incorrectly.

[@catgamesfamily]

39:26 speaking FACTS…as an over 30, this new era of fans is toooo shameless, there’s literally no logic to some of these guys takes…though saying that, KG & Expression’s shamelessness is hilarious…when it backfires 😂🤣

[@arsenalfcfootball9940]

Havertz in midfield and Jesus upfront and partey and J20 on the bench vs villa was arteta worst nightmare

[@christianmbabazi1603]

That mistake will cost us title moves

[@Burnttoast1112]

Probably lost us the league there… :/

[@Vidilian]

It was but we actually dominated in the first half so I can't blame just line up. Not the managers' fault they didn't put away the chances and then let them back into the game. Emery even said he didn't change anything in 2nd half.

[@arsenalfcfootball9940]

@Vidilian no brother that was the same line up that Fulham and west ham beat and those are the games we really did dominated especially villa away. Put it this way no other manager is going to change the striker that is having you on a 11 unbeaten run and no other manager is going to put that striker in midfield and bench partey and J20 none. Arteta is the real mess up but anyways if next season comes and somewhat we finish third or fourth arteta will be under fire remember now city will rebuild stronger this season so we mess up big time again

[@Vidilian]

@arsenalfcfootball9940 if not for Arteta we wouldn't even have signed Jorginho and Havertz so sorry, I'm not blaming him for losing the title and assuming he's going to take us backwards.

[@mike4673]

Kai's pass to Saka was inch perfect

[@rajikula8085]

Really enjoyed the collective support for Mikel Arteta on this episode from everyone. There's a real understanding on the job he's continuing to do despite another potential lack of silverware.

[@deadlypalms]

Arteta and this team are yet to hit their ceiling. All growing, adapting and evolving. We do need to win something next season.

[@realjm7078]

I love this lot together so much honestly.Turkish is my guy but ‘I’ll say it now’ there aint no one that does it better than the judge. What a character man. Hilarious every show 😹

[@HarmvanderWilt]

I totally get Turkish his point on social media and how far people online have sunken, but lets not forget any 12 year old can have an anonymous YT, X or whatever acccount and talk rubbish. Glad there are still places like this podcast, where there is room for more thoughtful discussion.

[@Shming1175]

I’m here quicker than Jordan can interrupt anyone. COYG

[@satwindersingh7050]

​@@nicholasfowler6845Avada Kedavra 😡

[@davidcharlesworth5493]

Yeah I've noticed that 🤫

[@marcus-sky]

😂😂😂

[@brandonchapman]

Sometimes I look at Jordan’s and wonder why his looking down and smiling. Then I remember he needs to catch up on the highlights.

[@eaglevision09]

Hehehe gold 😂🤣

[@tobiolowokure2602]

Turkish is so so so spot on about the state of football fandom right now

[@Amberle73]

Yeah, couldn't agree more. It's all twitter troll mindset now.

[@AranS7]

Jordan went from not watching the games to watching the wrong team. We are AC Milan with Kaka and Ronaldinho

[@ikeman9784]

Imagine getting 89 points coming 2nd and people calling you bottle jobs. Meanwhile their hopeless clubs cant even scrap 70 points. Looking at them manu, spurs, and chelsea fans 🤦

[@redsmoke7027]

You Four and Dan Potts are the best Arsenal KZbin influencers , all talk absolute scene. Turkish hits it on the heard with regards to the word Bottling its thrown around like confetti these days

[@claudioperdigao3930]

When Lee has praising Kai for 5 mins straight, Turkish was wondering how he can deduct a point off Lee for him doing so🤭

[@CMWargames]

Havertz 13 goals 6 assists in all comps 12 of those in premier league. 3 more over last 3 games and that’s not a bad return for his first season

[@agamemnon730]

8 goals and 5 assists in his last 11 games is what we should be focusing on, it took him time to adapt to Arteta system but he is now one of our most important players

[@dominicriego285]

Lees first bit is comedic gold and y this is the best footy podcast in the biz

[@sondremini2269]

Jordan looking like he on omegle with his phone out taking pics of famous people 😅

[@rcarl1473]

City play Fulham and spurs , both matches in London. This is the same week we play at ManU. If there is help, that’s when it happens

[@afcshahid]

For some reason Ben White’s antics remind me of Lee. I can imagine him trying to take James’ tablet of him during Tactical Insight

[@IbbyB.]

I was planning on planting 100 trees this morning. But after what Chris Wood did on Sunday, forget it. In fact, I ain't half thinking of cutting down 100 trees! Always hated Chris Wood. Its okay, I know I can count on our old pal Gary over at Wolves. Love you Gar. Unless you lose, then you're dead to me. 😂

[@danleyjvanwyk6959]

😂😂😂😂

[@thegreatiam6849]

Well done Arteta this far 👏🏿 👏🏿👏🏿 The season we needed not to lose against Spuds to get top 4 I was angry that Arteta didn't change his tactics to get over the line. This season we've gone there and won with revised tactics. Arteta tue cone man excelling in his role 👏🏿 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@stevieosrs8072]

Big up to the manager Michael arteta - Lee

[@i_am_Vuss]

Judges is right. As someone condierably younger than Lee. Arsenals golden age is but a faded memory. Drink this in, the boys play for the badge, the manager gets it. We are a united club, unlike many right now. Hopefully we can start delivering on silverware!! Love the show. Always makes my commute better. COYG!

[@Ryan11171]

Turkish absolutely spot on about modern football fans.

[@kirkbrown6388]

Preach it,Turkish

[@jeffbeasley8283]

My favorite podcast, found it a few weeks ago and it's a must watch every time now

[@87Michael]

Agree with everything Turkish said about football fans in the social media era. The little incels online with everything but themselves as their display pic are getting outta hand & the word bottle gets thrown around too much.

[@nickcalire1553]

One of my favorite episodes. Loved the talk about fans, banter, etc... WELL DONE BOYS!

[@NatalieHigh19]

I’m from up north and fourever Arsenal is the best football podcast hands down. It’s the one thing that makes me feel so connected to arsenal football club and that’s a credit to you 4. Thank you for making me feel so connected to the team and the fans.

[@richy6595]

Excellent podcast guys and great banter, doesn’t feel forced. Lee has been a long time favourite of mine, his delivery and one liners crack me up

[@jonnyteejonnytee889]

I said it, when we signed Havertz and people questioned what kind of player we were getting, it depends on the version that turns up on a matchday. He could be Ozil, Bergkamp, Van PerSie, or Kanu Nwankwo. What I didn't envisage was he could also be either Emmanuel Petit or Edu in the midfield.

[@simonf7623]

nice to see the boys having a giggle and enjoying our season and the results - what a difference from a few years ago -good vibes in the fanbase transmits onto the pitch. Forever Arsenal!

[@osasfire3670]

Great job guys. I always look forward to your show. All 4 of you are doing an amazing job. You all have a great way of putting things in perspective. Win, lose or draw, I can count on you guys to make it all make sense. Keep it going!

[@jordonbooman9913]

We melted away last April. Havertz has legit been the difference and the main driving force for our title charge at the key part of the season. I wouldn’t of seen that coming in 100 years

[@Eman14128]

Saliba being in the side , has helped us has well

[@doris_en]

You four honestly make the Arsenal experience complete! ❤♥️

[@arteta2495]

Our back four should get that golden glove and not Raya…they defended the goal way better than him

[@Rk-xx1sg]

Yep that makes perfect sense make 💤💤

[@peter_malsawmkima]

That's not how it works. Raya is a lucky guy and he'll get the award, it is what it is

[@thilinael]

Because our back 3/4 are so good usually, Raya doesn't get tested. Hence, why he's winning the golden glove. If he was consistently tested like how Emi was back in the day, we would have had one of the worst GDs in the league

[@Rk-xx1sg]

@@thilinael why based on what? You do realise raya had one of the highest save ratios last year at Brentford …do you think we would be in this position with ramsdale?

[@kthomas22]

@@Rk-xx1sg Ramsdale is a far better shotstopper than Raya. The only thing Raya is better at is catching crosses. Don't think we'd be any worse off if you swapped them

[@thebutcher9540]

Boys absolutely loved the chat about modern day fans etc! Spot on

[@amzgunnerz4life189]

Lee is spot on we COMPETING and honestly that’s ball that matters, if Pep and city can’t be shoved off that top spot then at least we bloody pushing them all the way

[@ZeldaReacts1]

Ben White and Havertz with the dark arts! Love it!

[@truenemesisprime550]

Missed this this morning, I usually listen to it during work but it wasn't out when I started :( going to enjoy it now though 😊

[@akshatmall1200]

I can see why Jordan likes to do the deed so much 11:15

[@PurpleSectors]

There has become a fine line between banter and bollocks.

[@simonmarie83]

I was watching the game in a pub in Harrogate, North Yorkshire, and there were a fair few Arsenal and Spurs fans. Enough for me to say "whaddaya fink o tot num?!!" and get a response. Brilliant. North Yorkshire is red!

[@amzgunnerz4life189]

Honestly I could see Arteta philosophy from day ONE man, how can everyone not see it, mate he’s had to get rid of about 20 senior players, 20! That takes time and takes more time to get the new players in settling and all, people forget how he’s won the FA cup within months of taken over, and who did he beat on the way?! A really good Chelsea and city teams, that made a statement right away, so happy for him, him and Edu is why we here and back competing that’s it, take them away and we doomed again.

[@Pedros52]

Us Arsenal fans have been waiting for this we fans all have Tottenham fans as friends but it’s been nice to give it to them big time

[@JayDee-rm4zz]

Arsenal have grown so much ,whatever happens I’m proud of this team. A major is coming we’re 100% getting closer.

[@benjiradach1361]

We should put all our chips in on getting Vini Jr. Between Vini, Havertz, and Saka we should get 55-60 goals. Second priority would be an upgrade on Raya. Next would be a backup for Saka, or we need to start using Jesus over on the right. Isak would be a very welcome addition, though not mandatory, for next season. Not sure who, but a replacement for Parley should be sought too. I've heard Zubimendi's name floated, but he apparently doesn't have the sort of progressive passing that Parley (or Jorginho) does, so he shouldn't be the replacement we look to.

[@nishantbhatia4031]

One of the best content in the Fans and Banter section. Turkish you were brilliant…

[@stefanlumley4398]

Great opinions from James, keeping in real 👍

[@user-rb9xx6iw3o]

I've always said the most important thing was about getting our name back. Fighting for league titles and back to champions league every season

[@user-cw7uu8wh1j]

The section where the guys acknowledged the true work of the good managers in EPL was a breath of fresh air. Specially the Klopp bit by Turkish.

[@ReubenGabrasadig]

Turkish: "ows it going peeeople, welcome back to the fourever arsenal podcast..love for the love.." Jordan: Hate for the hate you bastards.

[@Jamaicanarsenalfan]

Best pod on KZbin for an episode ya'll should do the chicken shop challenge at the end of the season 😂😂😂😂

[@christopherward7443]

i know why Jordan likes Postecoglu, Big Ange said "High line" Jordan thought he said "Highlights" 🤣🤣🤣

[@PlanetAnime24]

“I got Bad Internet” 😂😂😂😂 Top TIER DELIVERY !!

[@philgibb505]

Kaka to Ronaldinho - pure class - love you guys - forever Arsenal is pure class...

[@joshuaotoole2181]

Out in the Dominican relaxing watching the pod, lovely 🇩🇴

[@shaynescott5961]

James made me so nervous during the watch along I had to turn AFTV and just watch it by myself 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@likestosleep225]

nah, cecil's the biggest culprit of this

[@shaynescott5961]

@@likestosleep225 😂 Naaa he's always like that... He looks nervous in random midweek interviews 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@danleyjvanwyk6959]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@robbie4084]

Reya made such a blunder, there is no excuse for a mistake like that He almost cost us the Match, which would have cost us any chance of the league We need a little luck, I hope our 2 losses to Villa don't end up costing us the league, it would be sickening, considering who manages them now Come on ye Gooners

[@keithmorgan1440]

Bet Arteta don't drop him like hid Rams he's so unfair I don't know where Rams will go to at the end of the season but I wish him all the best he's been treated badly

[@robbie4084]

@@keithmorgan1440 Ramsdale made too many mistakes, that's why they dropped him, And overall Reya has done better, but still, his blunder on Sunday isn't acceptable

[@LukeGOONERmcCoy]

@TurkishLND what a win COYG just want to say what an amazing show once again every week I say this I love all the humour the banter the laughter lee had me in stitches when he stuttered and fired back straight away to James 😂but big up to you all love you all if podcast should get an award for the year it should definitely be FOUREVER ARSENAL PODCAST Love 4 the Love guys keep going strong 🙌🏼🙌🏼🔥🔥🔴⚪️👏🏻👏🏻

[@matthewdanna8800]

Brilliant show lads! 👏👏👏 Up the Gunners! Loved the discussion on how football fandom has gone insane w the online banter nonsense. Big ups for standing tall on honesty.. I love our team; looking back you can see how Mikel’s commitment to team culture and chemistry has got us here, and he made a bunch of tough decisions along the way when deciding to let some people go

[@robertstrong5713]

Jordan 2022: he who won’t be named Jordan 2024: he who won’t get a star

[@jamesjustice21]

My thinking on it has changed in regards to Kai and the 9. I think our priority should be to sign a winger who can start on the left as well as deputize Saka on the right. What I’m saying is, I’d rather spend £100 mil on Rodrygo from Madrid than £100 mil on Gyorkas or Isak

[@FunnyGuy-nu9ds]

Ben White messing with Vicario 😂

[@iandevaz2234]

If you listen without prejudice, Jordon is the most cerebral of this lot and we are blessed to have him on this show

[@user-ky7fe1ce3p]

Loved it when James said he was over the moon, his face looked like his dog had just died !

[@adityamv88]

What's this star system? I have been watching this whole series of podcasts without fail and somehow i don't know what the stars are. This is how Man United players must feel. "I've played a whole season now with this team and i have no clue what I'm doing. " Big up to you guys! Watching this pod is an essential ritual for me to move on to the next game. ❤

[@robertstrong5713]

Props to everyone at the club for the way we are ran now from top to bottom but let’s also not forget how the fans pushed this club to raise their standards. When we were at our lowest. Fans like Turkish. Let’s never let our club fall to these standards ever again. COYG 🔴⚪️

[@itswillsmith]

Since October, my gf and I started our roadtrip across Australia. Although we enjoy the golden beaches + stunning views; we still take the time to listen to your podcast wherever we go. Keep up the good shows, Will+Rhi ❤️

[@curls_and_travel]

Great discussion on the toxicity online around football clubs / fans lads

[@dmangunner6214]

Some absolute truth spoken here its brilliant

[@GunningSoulmanKQ6]

We need a podcast with the Fourever of you reacting to the funniest and most outrageous comments made throughout the season (come on production, get it done). The Kaka and Ronaldinho comparison along with the Netflix and sex sections gonna be wild 😂

[@aussiedon8]

To be fair to Lee, ‘Turkish docks more than a sheep farmer’, was the best I could come up with, and I had time to think. Great show guys.

[@Adedayoaa]

Is Fulham away not also the only game we wore that 3rd kit in the league. Used it at Bayern, PSV and Lens but won at Sevilla.

[@rakoto7835]

Been waiting for this

[@Adedayoaa]

Jordan is right. Bernardo Silva has wanted to leave but he refuses to let him go. Pep will only let you go.

[@Iiridon]

When they started talking about how the modern day fan is unbearable I immediately thought of Matisse. He looks to find the negative in every team

[@slydizzle2664]

Jordan with the Brentford in the top half of the table comment 😂 Someone needs to make a video highlight of the table each week

[@williams8152]

James is drinking volka this early morning lol 🤣

[@ronnoywaysome9398]

“I got bad internet” had me in tears

[@roystonmarshall5027]

Love you guys...😊

[@isagreg8482]

Raya should be told not to do stupid things that will cost us alot

[@fikilembokodi60]

Woow you guys underestimate Bournemouth

[@chrisanor4902]

Bournemouth be balling seriously this season we could do with some of their players.

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

What I like about Havertz's first goal against Chelsea was the way he took Cucurella by the collar and took him for a walk.😊

[@DGeeR]

Ben White had me in splits 😂 How the hell is pinching the goal keepers wrist or tampering with his glove even legal Hahaha just too funny 🤣

[@Moleoflands]

It isn't really, but you aren't going to get booked for it lol. It is just destroying the Keeper's concentration. Beautiful

[@TheeChronicle]

Raya is the luckiest player in our team. We bailed him out so much this year. We definitely need an upgrade for next year.

[@JackPalfreman]

Jordon’s the podcasts Xhaka, “He who shall not be starred ⭐️”