Having 2nd Thoughts on my Native Titan X 12.5

Yes I am having 2nd thoughts about the new Native X 12.5. You will just have to watch to find out.....

[@josephcastiglione2161]

After taking the Titan X 12.5 on it’s maiden here’s a couple thoughts: - WOW - Paddled through vegetation, no issue. Didn’t have to struggle like in the old town 106MK - this is my third kayak and first one I stood up in. Note I’m 75 but felt very comfortable - it did hold water under set (water came in when some boaters didn’t slow). When got home found 2 suppers under set track. Will take plugs out for next trip. - the spring rutter would not deploy. It was me , I put my soft pack cooler on it . Got home took cooler out and bingo it worked. Might want to share that with listeners. - LOVE the seat 💯 , the drawer. - it is heavy on land - but in the water it ROCKS 😎👍 Keep the videos coming. Thanks for all you do Joe

[@CyberYaker]

Thank you for watching. My next video will be taking all the scubber plugs out and seeing if it retains water in the cockpit area. All my other kayaks I never put scubber plugs in. I heard they had issues in the past but also heard this new design should have fixed that. We shall see in a few days.

[@robertyamane9395]

@@josephcastiglione2161 Have you peddled through eelgrass? Does the prop still stay clear?

[@terryblakeslee6652]

Thanks for your videos on the Titan X. I just picked mine up. Can't wait to get it on the water.

[@CyberYaker]

What color did you get?

[@terryblakeslee6652]

I got the wave strike like yours.

[@CyberYaker]

@@terryblakeslee6652 awwsome

[@draggintailzfishing828]

This is a great looking Kayak bro. Love the lines and the layout of this kayak. Im a smaller guy but love the bigger kayaks. This kayak will be in my history books one day. Till then Hobie pa 360 is the platform for me.

[@castingacrosstexasfishing]

Great yak for sure.

[@CyberYaker]

Loving it.

[@MattShepherdFishin]

You're steadily convincing me to buy this yak 😂

[@CyberYaker]

So far the verdict is great. I still have more testing to do before I give it my 💯 approval. Thank you for watching.

[@riverpirate1022]

Also anyone using a fishing kayak should have self-bailing/self draining scupper plugs in 90%+ of the scuppers. The ones in my OT are amazing.

[@CyberYaker]

Old town used to give them when you bought the kayak now they are an accessory you can buy. But yes I loved them.

[@Saltloony]

You still have your lynx?

[@CyberYaker]

No. I sold that one.

[@itsrecordingman]

i had (and sold) a 2018 pa14 - the last model year with the 180 drive how much more stable is this ?

[@CyberYaker]

The titan is hands down more stable. I like the PA14 better.

[@audioexperience]

@@CyberYaker thanks !

[@robertyamane9395]

Does the oar storage interfere with the sidekick wheel mount? I am a smaller person 5’5”, 160# and disabled and have trouble with loading my .outback! I like the 12’9” of my Outback but even have trouble loading it in the back of my truck! Not all of us have a garage to stair a trailer in! The weight of the Titan can be attributed to the thickness of the kayak itself (as my is understanding) but you probably are not going to have an issue of cracked scuppers or cracked hull at the seat mountings like some Hobie’s have. After seeing one at a dealer, I also have concerns about loading/unloading of the kayak on the keel and damaging the rudder blade! Otherwise a pretty good kayak that I would consider. The 10.5 is not practical as the battery compartment is not built for a 24v 50amp battery necessary for a NK180 pro or an NK300 with a 36v battery.

[@CyberYaker]

@@robertyamane9395 there are several ways you can store the paddle. It is actually designed to be separated and stored on both sides. I am sure there is a way you can configure it so the sidekick can stow and go without issues.

[@robertyamane9395]

@@CyberYaker I agee though, breaking down the 2 halves of the oar is just stupid! When you need it, you don’t need to be fiddling around with putting it together, but it was a good idea in theory!

[@tystick22]

Turn the rudder all the way to one side and it won't hit the ground before the back of the hull

[@CyberYaker]

@@tystick22 thank you

[@daddybigfins7729]

What a freaking goober!

[@CyberYaker]

Bahahaha. Thank you for watching.

[@MSmith-jf5wo]

Rudder, you Say...? Just turn it sideways either way, and you won't even touch the ground/ramp when launching/retrieving your 'Yak (I added 4 inches to my Titan 10.5 rudder, and I have to do that every time I launch from my truck!). Good Video, keep'em up.... I'm trying to talk myself into the Titan-X, as my Titan fully rigged is over 200 pounds now (3 batteries for the motor-Garmin-and running lights, 7 or 8 Bass rods, 8 Plano boxes, Plano plastic worm box, large hook/weight box, and an "extra-fishing line" box. And the Boondox wheel kit isn't light, either!). Lol.

[@CyberYaker]

Thank you for the tip. Will try turning the rudder. And thank you for watching.

[@YakShoreOutdoors]

Just found your channel. Thanks for the awesome review! I also have a pa14 but over the past two years I have been constantly wishing it had this or it had that. This seems like it will be the ticket for me as well. Both for bass fishing and for catfish and striper fishing. Thank you!

[@CyberYaker]

It is a great kayak but found out it is not the one for me. I will be doing another video tonight about that. Still a great yak. Loved my PA14's too but as you said no perfect yak out there. Thank you for watching. Just subbed your channel.

[@YakShoreOutdoors]

@@CyberYaker which one are you going to go with next?

[@CyberYaker]

@@YakShoreOutdoors gonna leave that for the video but it is going back to being more basic for sure.

[@YakShoreOutdoors]

@@CyberYaker looking forward to it!

[@BassManStrikes]

LOL get two yak attack side arms with roto grips problem solved.... those it comes with are not designed for the whole paddle 😂

[@CyberYaker]

Great idea

[@kenestra123]

Exaclty what I was hoping you were gonna say! I cant stand waiting for my order to get in. Doesnt look like till springtime for me up here in the northern plains,Minnesota! I still have my trailer with the PVC bunks still on them that I used for my 2022 Hobie PA12 but I was told I should probably go back to the original carpeted 2x4 bunks.

[@CyberYaker]

My last trailer was a pwc trailer I had bunks in for the pa14. This kayak sits so flat I just went with this utility trailer. I will be adding outdoor carpet to it but no bunks.

[@kenestra123]

Ya,that trailer looks perfect for the Titan X,Easy on Easy off. @@CyberYaker

[@chrislindholm]

I’m ordering mine soon - also Northern MN! Grand Marais area!

[@freeagentangler5159]

Show us if it bails out water. My old Titan I had would not bail out water and I had to keep a pump for those rough windy days

[@CyberYaker]

I thought I had that in a previous video. If not I have a clip of that. It actually drains well.

[@freeagentangler5159]

Didn’t really see the deck. I could hear the water as you stepped around the deck and the kayak was basically empty besides your weight. I don’t think they fixed that issue and still have to deal with wet feet.

[@CyberYaker]

@@freeagentangler5159 I never owned a native before. Not sure of the issue you are referring to. Water got in the cockpit because of my pants leg. When I flipped it on purpose I had much more water in the cockpit. I removed the front scrubber plugs from the cockpit and the water went out. I did not have the kayak loaded with gear as you seen and I weigh 185. Your milage may very.

[@CyberYaker]

I will see if I can find the footage and make a quick short.

[@CyberYaker]

I put the short up so you can see. I never owned a Native before so this is how the new ones drain.

[@riverpirate1022]

Your wrong, this is THE perfect kayak actually designed for fishing and for the accessories and mods kayak fishermen do/want. Nothing else even comes close. I fully expect this kayak to put every other fishing kayak out of business because they all have massive shortcomings, the Titan X has ZERO. Yes to get all the features we want and need, it makes it heavy. Guess what, all fishing kayaks when loaded with gear and motors are heavy, that's only an issue for transport, storage, launching and loading. On the water it does not act really heavy compared to some other boats.

[@CyberYaker]

Unfortunately my opinion on what I think is the perfect fishing kayak is correct. This one is not the perfect kayak for me. Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@riverpirate1022]

Now fully rig the kayak with motors front and rear, FF, all the batteries, poles, tackle and net, lunch and drinks. Then tell us how it paddles. My OT 120 PDL is a BARGE fully loaded for fishing.. Paddling is almost pointless and everything mounted to the rails is in the way.

[@CyberYaker]

Watch my last video. I agree 💯. But that's why they have pedals. Don't listen to KZbinrs telling you about how they padel because you will hardly ever paddle them. Once again thank you for watching.

[@riverpirate1022]

If you fall out, or flip a fishing kayak in any water other than a river/creek with swift current, you probably should not be using a fishing kayak. They are next to impossible to flip in normal situations, by design.

[@CyberYaker]

Unfortunately it is the nature of the beast. It is a water sport. They can and will flip if not controlled properly and yes that is usually by the less experienced. But it happens. Thank you for watching.

[@riverpirate1022]

Now load the kayak with all your fishing gear, motors, batteries, FF etc etc mounted everywhere, then try to get back in it. Good luck, it's nearly impossible.

[@CyberYaker]

That's why I have a trailer. I agree 💯. They are heavy but designed to be for motors and stability. Thank you for watching.

[@MattStarkFishing]

The TitanX is at the top of my list along with the PA12. I’m probably moving to Florida in the next year or so and I’m a bit worried I’ll be disappointed in the drive system in the hydrilla.

[@CyberYaker]

How much hydrilla is in Florida? The pa will be about 2k more. That's a huge difference.

[@attirides]

Most of the lakes are loaded with hydrilla, hyacinth, Lilly pads, pencil reeds etc

[@brandongoss4041]

Great vids and info, still stuck between hobie pa 14 or this native titan x 12.5 what made you get rid of hobie pa? If you don’t mind me asking

[@CyberYaker]

I have had 3-4 pa14"s and honestly they are great kayaks. They just never felt like the right kayak for me. I have had that issue with every kayak so far. The lynx was the one I liked the most. I am hoping this one can take its place. We shall see.

[@JuanDoe1776]

Great info on the Titan X. I have mine on order and should get it in a couple weeks. I like the trailer setup. Can you do a video on your trailer set up?

[@CyberYaker]

I absolutely can. It is not anything special though. Thank you for watching.

[@DarthChatterbait]

Is the weight the reason you're selling it? I was cruising marketplace the other day and saw your listing. I only knew it was yours because the photo was from your KZbin video. It just seemed a little weird, since all of your videos so far have been praising it.

[@CyberYaker]

No I have decided to keep it. Honestly I think it is the best value out there for kayaks. Since that add I forgot to take down I bought a trailer and had a bunch of accessories come in for it.

[@DarthChatterbait]

@CyberYakerAdventures That's awesome! I genuinely contemplated reaching out to you for it, but with holidays coming up, it just wasn't in the cards. I'll have something set up for when spring hits. The weight is the one thing that concerns me. I was looking for a trailer for my previous kayak and it was only half the weight. I just want a platform that I can fish standing or seated. I have a pretty bad lower back, so something that allows me to stretch is definitely preferred and also why the weight was such a concern. Thanks for the great videos!

[@CyberYaker]

@@DarthChatterbait you must live close by. Come by and I will take you out where you can test it. See if a titan is right for you.

[@AuburnMan]

Just picked up the Nucanoe unlimited, no regrets.

[@CyberYaker]

That's a sweet sled for sure

[@robpga]

How did your PFD keep from inflating???

[@CyberYaker]

I have it on manual mode. I would have to pull the rip cord basically. Thank you for watching.

[@DoubleTFishing]

That Titan looks SWEET!!

[@CyberYaker]

I am enjoying it so far. It's huge.

[@inacioferreira9601]

Amazing kayak !!! How can I buy one ? I`m in Portugal. Thanks

[@CyberYaker]

You would probably have to buy it from the states and hire a shipping company.

[@inacioferreira9601]

Thanks ! Best regards