So complex.. so moving and emotional. Expert acting.. makes you think long after viewing.❤
@knowledgegathererdraftsave197911 ай бұрын
They both opened each other up to love in a consuming way, and yet Hawk chose his reputation and career over Tim. But he continued to turn up again in his life, ask for him to come back to him because he needed him even though he was too proud to say it. Tim always loved Hawk no matter what; he could never stop or give his love for Hawk away to to someone else. In the end, Hawk finally said it. Their love was tragic but real. *Beyond Measure*
@olubukonla735211 ай бұрын
Hawk basically ruined BOTH their lives so HE could have a career and beard family. Jst selfish to the CORE. But Tim loved him SO much he forgave him.
@knowledgegathererdraftsave197911 ай бұрын
You’re so right. Hawk might have shown more affection to Tim than anyone else, even Lucy - he just married her for his own protection - but he never deserved him and yet, Tim always forgave and loved him and could never stop or love anyone like he loved him.
@krapulanta11 ай бұрын
@@knowledgegathererdraftsave1979 you’re both fucking stupid actually. he loved tim just as much, but he was too damaged to be able to give him the love he deserved. he didn’t do anything to deliberately hurt tim, he didn’t have malicious intent, he wasn’t cruel. he did what he thought he needed to do to survive, as they all did, that’s it. maybe watch the show again since you CLEARLY missed the entire point.
@mandipandi30311 ай бұрын
Not to mention, he also ruined Lucy's chance at finding someone who could love her the way she deserved. She spent 30 years feeling alone and undesired. Fuck heteronormative society for making Hawk feel like he needed to use her as a beard.
@cazb577711 ай бұрын
How beautiful! 💞 I wish every person would watch this show because the themes of love, loss and heartbreak are universal.. We can all get something from this story. Your video is absolutely gorgeous btw 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🩷
@shrinseal13398 ай бұрын
Its been 2 weeks , but I'm not over of this show. Realisation of person to hide and give up his/her love just bcoz of society or government,breaks my heart. I wish each and every person will get his love and live life fully ❤ Series is great tribute to all queers and their sacrifices. Loved it ❤
@cacturro11 ай бұрын
im literally never recovering
@greentombdive11 ай бұрын
Look, Hawk is ‘The Villain’ and Tim is ‘The Good Guy’. Simple.
@stephaniel28509 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely wondering why anyone who has this take would even like the story at that point? I just don't get it, because if you only read Hawk as a villainous abuser then it's the story of someone who was abused and ultimately leaves things off on in a good place with his abuser. The fact that it does a massive disservice to the depth and nuance of Hawk as a character aside, it assumes zero agency or growth for Tim within the story either, which is such a disservice to him. Don't get me wrong, Hawk is a complicated character who certainly does make some really painful mistakes, but no, at no point does he make them because he's just some villainous manipulator who doesn't care about anyone in his life. Both the writing and Matt in his performance go out of their way to make it absolutely clear that he DOES love and care about the people in his life very deeply, almost none (the exception being his children) more so than Tim. The problem was never that he was a horrible person, it was only ever that the world they lived in had constantly told him he had no choice but to but to lie; that no matter how much he might desperately long for a life with Tim, it simply wasn't an option on the table, and if they tried, it would be putting Tim at risk even more so than himself. So, sure, I guess you can choose to read Hawk on the most absolute surface level possible and write him off as nothing but a villain for having hurt Tim, but like... truly, what's the point of the story then? It becomes infinitely, infinitely more meaningful when you recognize that both Tim AND Hawk deserved so much better.
@annalisaiaccarino691111 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍
@michaeljohnston-ul1vi4 ай бұрын
There does nt seem anything wrong here,just two guys in love deeply in love.
@AndresaModena11 ай бұрын
I did not watch this show, except the vídeos, but i could understand (i guess). And i comevto conclusion that hawk loved Tim, but hawk was coward😢. He thought about HINSELF first. And left Tim behind. Tim would die for Hawk, because Tim knew it that love is only for brave people 😢. Tim is gone, dies and hawk will have to leave with his cowardess and consequences forever (Portuguese is my language 🤍).
@treesny9 ай бұрын
With respect, the show runs eight hours, every minute of which is essential viewing. No one could possibly understand Hawk and Tim's complex, volatile love for one another -- not to mention the other characters and subplots -- unless they watch the entire show. Thank you.
@stephaniel28509 ай бұрын
Hawk certainly did have a lot of internalized (and understandable, given the world he lived in) fear and shame, but I wouldn't particularly say that his mistakes came from a place of only caring about himself. I think he wanted just as badly as Tim for them to be able to have a life together, but every experience he had of the world reinforced his believe that it simply wasn't an option. And moreover, he had more fear about what could happen to Tim if they tried than he did about what could happen to him - so much of his trauma was his knowing that he had a tendency to be bulletproof, but the people who loved him weren't. So I don't feel like it does his character justice to just chalk it up to simple cowardice, you know? It is true that it's the characters like Tim and Frankie, who fought to live their authentic lives even despite the world they lived in, who were incredibly brave and pushed toward progress, but there were a lot more people like Hawk, and they weren't bad or selfish people for having been shaped by a world that told them their only option for survival was to lie.