Hawkmoon is Actually INSANE in PvE! (Destiny 2 Beyond Light)

Hawkmoon is Actually INSANE in PvE! (Destiny 2 Beyond Light)
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[@reformedlock]

Using lucky pants doesn’t take the perk away, just be careful to not go all the way back to 8 in the mag

[@samgreen8007]

I never know (and I want to for damage numbers) but where is Karl?

[@ballpython365]

No DPS numbers? I’m shocked

[@revoker8104]

Kk

[@ryanschuster5621]

Is it a bug or something that hawk moon has 68 impact whereas all other 140s have 72 impact? I’ve tested it in pvp and it doesn’t do less damage but it feels like it does less damage in pve. Didn’t test actual numbers though. Do you know if it’s a UI glitch? Or some sort of balancing attempt?

[@minosprime6701]

I feel like Ehroar could do a great Kermit impression

[@ajax4340]

A bit random but I agree with you

[@jifthepeanutman4596]

Bruh 😂 I've thought that for years

[@Josh-kw3jf]

Lmao underrated comment

[@johnd1685]

😂

[@masonscruggs1209]

Agreed

[@hankhill8973]

Me: don't say it don't say it don't say it Ehroar: W A R M I N D C E L L S

[@lukas753331]

We just used hawkmoon for taniks lol. EZ one phase. WTF.

[@eman111555]

@@lukas753331 seriously?

[@qriusmeerkat6584]

More specifically Wrath of Rasputin.

[@aresgamingyt7449]

“There’s no way he will work warmind cells into the hawkmoon video... right...”

[@edrocks2380]

Don't give him ideas

[@AutistiCat2406]

Warmind cells are great but when you have to do so much work just to implement them it’s worth using the slots on other stuff imo, that’s why this build really didn’t tickle my fancy

[@shadowkhan422]

@@AutistiCat2406 I just use couple of mods on pve builds. Even one is enough unless you want solar shenanigans

[@shadowstalker8508]

@@AutistiCat2406 All you need is one seventh seraph weapon. Protection of Rasputim and Power of Rasputin , two void armor... that's a viable build or a minimal one rather

[@bonk55]

good joke

[@gwordly23]

*new exotic* ehroar: WARMIND CELLS

[@orlenespinal5788]

Lol

[@TheRealDell]

Way of the Sharpshooter mains are about to have a field day with this gun.

[@windwolf7517]

I immediately paired it with Athrys' Embrace (the new exotic gloves). It's one of my favorite builds I've done.

[@CapCody]

Yeah but for one shot you need to do 6 headshot without loosing any shot

[@Banana_in_the_ocean]

Yes

[@ballpython365]

@@CapCody is that difficult in pve? Not really

[@percyjones4267]

@@ballpython365 that good for pve not PvP what he talking about is trash in PvP

[@ghassanadhami1385]

BTW lucky pants can give you back bullets AND keep the buff as long as you stay under 8 bullets. Basically, if Hawkmoon gets fully reloaded, the buff goes away. The lucky pants perk allows for more forgiveness, and it is worth noting that the buff will stay at x7, even if you get more than 7 precision hits in the mag.

[@Cross1nsan1ty]

We all thought bungee did their homework! You are a blessing fellow Guardian. Im about to molli-wop in crucible with this now lol

[@scottricks1676]

yessssss, i found this out the other day. been having fun with dual 140's or a bow. Kinda a fun mini game to have 7 bullets and a full Para charge.

[@juskae4893]

i can't wait to see you post the "H'moon vs All Strike Bosses"

[@ballpython365]

“It’s insaaaaaane”

[@thomasholland5487]

Can't wait for the Rick kackis last wish raid thingy

[@juskae4893]

@@thomasholland5487 someone already posted an ALL hawkmoon vs DSC raid boss today - 2 phase

[@scottishmau5]

Give it time 😂

[@bradytaliaferro7317]

Literally thinking that as i use the gun

[@WolvzReign]

Ehroar: “-Chromatic Fire-“ My Vault: “You mean the exotic you threw in here with a sick stat drop, and just got a dupe so you infused to 1253 for free?” Me: “Time for master working materials...”

[@dragobane4728]

Damn

[@whynot7863]

Light subclasses only 🥲

[@sourg1248]

while martyr is one of my most favorite warmind cell weapons in the game, I don't think it works well with this build, because you can't destroy cells with martyr. I would change it to ikelos sniper and now you have something to cover far range and you can also use it to pop warmind cells, not to waste hawkmoon bullets for that.

[@supercala332]

That's usually the biggest drawback with Ehoar's builds is that they don't usually cover all range types. If you're going to keep marty, I'd actually go with a linear fusion rifle for range. They do really good boss damage, but they're usually slept on since much of our current content allows the use of swords (so it makes sense). But...if you need range and aren't using a sniper, linear fusion rifles will out damage any legendary LMG.

[@obi-wanpepproni3576]

@@supercala332 lfrs are pointless, just use an interference

[@redturtle8117]

@@obi-wanpepproni3576 interference?

[@redturtle8117]

@@obi-wanpepproni3576 also nice name lmfao

[@zeymare2634]

@@obi-wanpepproni3576 true, GLs would be the best option in the heavy slot for range, especially since LFR are really really bad for boss dps.

[@HimselfOOO]

You could fit unstoppable hand cannon and overload grenades in this build too

[@JustTheCreep]

That's actually a good idea

[@tompramanaaccount8892]

Unstoppable is gonna be nuts with this gun. Stop the champion with headshot, stack it to times 7, and the last shot deal crazy damage to them. Thanks for the idea

[@zachsuarez1830]

@@tompramanaaccount8892 or even better, charge up to 6, then use the 7th to stun, and then shoot the 8th, because you can’t store the last shot

[@Pocket_Fox]

6 shots and then you have to either stow and save it, or waste it on an add. 6 shots. It has potential but it's extremely clunky. IMO the real value of this gun is in a double primary setup, for when you need both unstoppable rounds and anti barrier rounds. You'll have both mods covered, and the second primary will make stowing Hawkmoon after only 6 shots much more realistic. Hawkmoon basically becomes your special weapon at that point.

[@chickenjimmy6552]

So, it's a bit like the old NF, but it's kinetic, exotic, and kinda bonkers? Cool

[@Sword_of_Saint_14]

It would be cool to theorycraft a dps comparison between pre nerf NF and Hawkmoon. Get the damage from a energy 180, multiply it by the damage buff from magnificen howl and then add in the reload + shots without the perk and voala, you have the current pre nerf dps of not forgotten

[@henryzhang7873]

@@Sword_of_Saint_14 Pre-nerf NF did around the same DPS as Whisper of the Worm in Last Wish if you didn't miss a shot, due to Lunafaction auto-reload.

[@toad3222]

@@henryzhang7873 what's the NF? Never played d1

[@henryzhang7873]

@@toad3222 It wasn't in D1. It was in Forsaken. Not Forgotten was a 180 hand cannon you got from hitting legend in comp. It had a special perk that if you hit 2 headshots in a row, following bullets would do 3.3x damage until you killed a target. Against bosses this effectively meant you had 3.3x damage all the time, and could kill majors faster than shotguns could sometimes.

[@toad3222]

@@henryzhang7873 ohh right thanks, I haven't bought the dlcs

[@DavidFerneau]

I love how that final shot just ignores shields and kills whatever is in its path haha

[@wiimotecactus3124]

Hawkmoon can once again one shot in pvp while being phenomenal in pve, the king is back baybeeeee

[@rogueeBLU]

Yeah but it sucks in pvp compared to other exotic options

[@wiimotecactus3124]

@@rogueeBLU that's how it was in d1 bother, it's still a good option but not far from the best

[@DampedCoast]

The big succc in pvp, why would you want to not reload to potentially get a 1 shot. I'd rather just run dire for the more ammo and being able to use an exotic in another slot. Or Ace which is way better in pvp

[@rontolbert7878]

@@DampedCoast ace is better in pvp and PVE ace can create warmind cells with WOR because of firefly and has momento Mori and the catalyst turns the firefly explosions into mini bombs in PVE Cayde 6 built the best hand cannon in destiny lol

[@丕刀卜乙卜人凹卜-d4x]

@Korbin Forsman hawmoon was trash since d1 year 2

[@wiimotecactus3124]

Some hawkmoon tech: you can hold the last 2 shots with x6 and swap to another weapon then you can just use the last two shots to wipe a big enemy

[@nospoiler]

Well yeah, but... Then you'd have to either carry two primaries, or use special ammo weapons on the normal enemies. So... Why not just use izanagi's?

[@wiimotecactus3124]

@@nospoiler do you not now how to manage such a resource?, you use hawkmoon like any normal primary until you are right before a encounter with champions or bosses then make the stacks for the opening big damage against them then finish with special, like I personally would use hawkmoon with a trench barrel shotgun

[@wiimotecactus3124]

@@nospoiler also ammo finders make your point obsolete completely

[@wiimotecactus3124]

@Trevor Hecht that's actually brilliant gl with disruption break for heavy to do big dps with handcannon

[@nospoiler]

@@wiimotecactus3124 that's assuming a perfect world. You won't always be able to just stroll up to a powerful enemy. What if it's something more challenging and you die with the stacks before you fight them? What if there's multiple powerful enemies? What if you're so swarmed by weaker enemies that you need to clear them out first and then won't have a nice, tidy x7 shot ready in the mag with no enemies to charge it, forcing you to spam a champion with a basic HC for a couple seconds? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of this gun. But it considerably lacks consistency when compared to some other options. If it'd for example kept the stacks through reloading and only unleashed the parascutal shot under a specific circumstance (say, ADSing it for a second like with a overload champion mod), you could ensure that you'd have the bullet when you need it (unless you'd die, but well... Dying is supposed to punish you)

[@L3ONARD81]

Dude you didn't even mention the best part about the thing.... "CAWCAWWWW!"

[@revoker8104]

K

[@revoker8104]

Ya

[@obi-wanpepproni3576]

literally the only good thing about this hand cannon having hawkmoon’s skin

[@GoDogArchives]

@@obi-wanpepproni3576 looks like someone has been oneshotted a bunch of times now.

[@timbusfahrer3172]

@@GoDogArchives It's just not a really good gun. Sure an 18× damage increase is nice, but you have to exclusively get crits or add kills and after your "InSaNe" burst damage you have to start all over again. Alternatively you can just run Lament and shit out even more damage while still being able to run a good primary with a slug shottie.

[@YamiWraith]

What if we dont have wrath of rasputin is there a viable replacement?

[@samlasalle3853]

I would be curious to see the DPS on this thing just shooting a full mag at a major, hitting all crits, and then getting the x7 last shoot

[@zachsuarez1830]

Same

[@zachsuarez1830]

You could probably calculate it yourself tbh

[@jamieanderson8308]

@@shaunhayes3072 wouldn’t it be 157,902?? Each shot give you a continual buff to your damage.

[@jeremywood4048]

@@jamieanderson8308 not quite, the damage increase is only on the final round of the mag

[@jamieanderson8308]

@@jeremywood4048 yeah, I watched again and realised my mistake. I was maybe hoping for too much and skipped over the important bit 😂

[@Skyace13]

I’d be curious to see how Outbreak Perfected stands vs Hawkmoon as far as DPS goes.

[@nightlockgamingfr]

Full team of Outbreak beats full team of Hawkmoon.

[@Daim669]

Warlocks: haves great exzotics with synergy between weapons. Titans: Ice becomes you

[@kabriii]

Or with hallowfire heart and the usual solar cell combo, Sun becomes you XD

[@bassman5948]

Wanna try this with disruption break to boost damage even more 💥

[@Nutellable]

Everyone: Meh, Hawkmoon is not as good as it seems... Ehroar: GIMME THAT

[@runek100]

I am pretty sure everybody know its pve strenght. As for pvp, it is really meh in currect state.

[@serialBLEACHexpert98]

@@runek100 I mean, Drewsky loves the base gun currently and the amazing stats it has. The Exotic perk is meh, but the gun itself is amazing.

[@runek100]

@@serialBLEACHexpert98 well drewski is controller player. It might be good with those perks like rangefinder or killing wind. But as for now, it is propably weakest exotic HC.

[@SaturnsOnionRings]

@@runek100 don't forget malfeasance in pvp, I might be a dredgen but never will I bring that useless weapon into comp

[@runek100]

@@SaturnsOnionRings I love that gun :D in casual or IB it slaps with charged of light. But is more of archeotype problem, its exotic perk is pretty strong.

[@dhoom-z7221]

2:52 "thats a lot of damage" 😂 Bro this ornament is so damn insane

[@sunny-ts9rh]

the ornament is purely cosmetic, it doesn't change the damage

[@BonelessRevenge]

?

[@cristxn3403]

you have more damage out put with jus using a shotty you still need to get up to those stack for it to be good

[@AbstractTheClassAct]

I like the idea of random roll exotics, we would still have the baseline verion in collections, but you could eventaully get a God roll exotic. It would give you a reason to farm exotic weapons. They could add them to Legendary lost sectors or something.

[@GoDogArchives]

I think these should only apply to old d1 exotics brought into d2, but ONLY if they can't think of a reworked perk.

[@hitherez_2925]

It’s only gonna be for hawkmoon. Luke smith said that they were bringing the rng of hawkmoon in a different way than the bullets.

[@shahriarmahjoob6504]

Thats a rabbit hole you dont wanna explore buddy. With so much rng and grind in the game static rolls on exotics are the only consistant things in destiny. Just imagine doing a tedious quest for an exotic and you havr to do sth like mindbender farm for a good roll.

[@chem2430]

Personally wouldn't mind a different roll on izanagi's burden, imagine if getting a mag increase perk that *could* affect honed edge

[@rayisawesome0]

What about a boss dps build on Hunter with a first in last out with auto loading and hawkmoon using lucky pants?

[@trident_55_24]

Every other class punching the air right now

[@lospollosh]

If the masterwork doesn’t increase the mag size, ima cry

[@koralreef1198]

It should also give it magnificent howl

[@Ragnarok633]

That would literally make the gun worse... The damage comes from the final bullet. The buff only stacks up to x7 anyways, messed around with lucky pants. Just run HC loader on your arms

[@KinofKos]

@@koralreef1198 It should also give it micro missile and master of arms while we’re at it.

[@Sword_of_Saint_14]

@@Ragnarok633 lucky pants counts as a reload if the perk works as intended (precision hits with bullets from the mag) then any buff to the mag size could make this a fucking Iza's burden with primary ammo

[@TruTrae]

Please cry your eyes out

[@chrisd400]

I got it to keep the charges with lucky pants, as long as I didn't fully reload the gun to 8 rounds.

[@dawnsluna5702]

A build for Hunter would be Hawkmoon and Athrys's Embrace. Precision hits charge up Hawkmoon's bullet, and 3 or more of them charge up your knife. All while getting Practice makes perfect for super regen, and knock em down for more super damage

[@PrimusInvictus]

Actually good suggestion

[@austinsutton27]

Except the fact that you can't often get kills with firefly, you still rely solely on your marty to make those cells.

[@john_titor1]

This is great and all, but im not sure it necessarily beats out thorn necro grips for me.

[@eman111555]

It might have an edge due to the high dps shot but for red bars clearly the NG build is better

[@john_titor1]

@@eman111555 Yeah, but you could also just use a slug shotty in energy slot for more dps than the hawkmoon.

[@eman111555]

@@john_titor1 not from behind cover with range. But both loadouts are fun i'm testing the hawkmoon one these days. Don't know which one I prefer.

[@john_titor1]

@@eman111555 In that case, use sniper over slug shotty. But yeah, hawkmoon is really fun, i just wish it had a slight change to make it more competitive with meta loadouts. Maybe it's future catalyst will do just that?

[@ethanpayne5949]

Drinking game Take a shot every time he says “It’s a primary for the first 7 shots and a secondary for the 8th”

[@adambates6541]

Haha, and have a chaser when he says “pretty much” 🤢🤢🤢

[@theomwithi8786]

Thank you everyone is saying its underwhelming but I noticed it crit higher than snipers with max buff.

[@andrdmosley]

Ppl are talking about PVP... It's underwhelming in PVP... No one i seen has said it's underwhelming for PVE... Hawkmoon was a PVP beast in D1... So everyone expected it to be a PVP beast in D2 as well... But it turns out that it's more of a PVE gun now...

[@ballpython365]

@@andrdmosley that’s only true if you suck at landing Crits though. The 1 tap is not the only utility of this perk, people seem to forget that the first 6 stacks also make a difference. A 2 tap is still a crazy ttk and 1 or 2 stacks still gives you the east of use in a 2H1B at the very least

[@andrdmosley]

@@ballpython365 Well it's not about sucking... The top tier PVP players are the ones who are saying it's underwhelming... You have to remember it's an exotic primary... In PVP to warrant taking up an exotic slot the utility of the weapon needs to happen often... Like Thorn perk works every shot... Ace of spades works after every kill and lasts for a long time... So a good player can utilize the perk almost all game... For Hawkmoon even as a good player if you don't have the x6 for one tap potential then many times you find yourself having to clean up your kill with another weapon

[@melodygritsipis2735]

@@andrdmosley I, as an unbroken flawless, completely disagree with you. 140s are already a 3 tap headshot weapon, and you only need 3x stacks in order to 2 tap your next kill. This leads to just using the incredible stats of the weapon to pick up the first kill, waste 3 shots from the clip, and then just use the last 2 to 2 tap someone. Hawkmoon even lets you keep that charge after swapping weapons, so shotgun rushers can be dealt with easily. Its range is subpar, but when it is able to be rolled in the champion mission, it will get full bore and rangefinder or opening shot to make it have ace level range.

[@andrdmosley]

@@melodygritsipis2735 Firstly you said you disagree with me completely... But didn't disprove anything I said... You just simply stated why you like the gun in PVP... What the gun is capable of is already known... What determines if it's great or not at PVP is the competition its going up against with weapon choices... You are talking about you only need to get 3 stacks in order to 2 tap... That's right... But you forgot we currently are in a sandbox where 2 tapping with HCs is already a normal thing... If Hawkmoon came out last season then what you said would have been great But considering All 120rpm hand cannon can two tap with less effort at longer ranges and for a longer period of time... it Diminishes Hawkmoon in PVP... With Hawkmoon, you have to spend 6 bullets of every magazine to setup 1 two tap kill... And then you have to do that all over again to setup another 1 two tap kill... Whereas with a legendary 120rpm HC with rampage... You need 3 bullets at the least to get your rampage perk... And after that you have 2 tap potential for a period of time... That extends every time you get a kill... So i can two tap several ppl in a row just by getting one kill... And i can do at longer ranges than Hawkmoon... Where after i use the Hawkmoon perk... I don't have it for the next gunfight or even the gunfight after that... Because i have to land headshots without reloading to keep the stack up... And if I'm landing headshots then the ppl are already dying in 3 shots... So that means by the time I get down to 2 bullets again to take advantage of the two tap perk... I'm on my 3rd gunfight since i last used the perk... Now if there were no HCs that could two tap at all... Then Hawkmoon two tap ability every 2 or 3 gun fights would be insane... But because we have HCs that 2 tap already and more often than Hawkmoon and at farther ranges... It doesn't make sense wasting an exotic slot on a kinetic whose perk isn't unique... Which is why everyone focuses on its 1 tap capability... Because that makes it unique... Being able to 2 tap every now and then isn't unique anymore And if you are the unbroken flawless player you claim to be... Then you would have already known that... Which is the first thing every top tier PVP player has pointed out so far... Gun feels great and the perk is awesome for one tap potential... But anybody using an exotic HC for two taps every now and then is wasting an exotic slot... Hence Hawkmoon is underwhelming in PVP because it's perk can only be used every now and then... And also keep in mind that I can take advantage of all my reload perks when using a legendary HC while still maintaining that two tap as well... My hunter dodge with dragon shadow or my transversive steps with a warlock... Two things i cannot use while using the Hawkmoon... Which are two exotics that are used highly in PVP... Wearing these just turns Hawkmoon into a non exotic weapon

[@carter3567]

I just wish it got the typical treatment the other returning exotics had, where it’s a more in depth/enhanced version of the original perk. This is absolutely nothing like the old hawkmoon, it’s completely different.

[@daedalus6433]

Well, again, they deleted randomness

[@charliemoorwood9027]

It's an effigy of Hawkmoon, not hawkmoon. It's explained in the mission

[@EsuEsuEsuuu]

Yea but if they enhanced the perk it would've been completely busted... holding aces plus whatever broken bs.. and no last word and thorn are nerfed/balanced versions of their trifecta trials selves... ace did get tge crackhead buff tho ngl...

[@andrdmosley]

It is an enhanced version of the original perk though... The original perk revolved around extra damage to random bullets... The new perk revolves around extra damage to a specific bullet... Now one can argue that the extra damage should be applied to more than one bullet... But i don't agree that this has nothing to do with the original perk

[@gravitonlance4730]

On the final DSC boss with a divinity we got it to 101k damage per last shot. Idk how much that helps

[@classydimes]

With divinity and weapons of light?

[@Ninjippo]

heritage with x10 recombination is about 95k if im remembering correctly idk i dont pay attention to my damage numbers anymore... So, that would fit his data

[@elchancho8432]

Interesting video however I’m still disappointed with Hawkmoon not a fan of the random perk

[@ballpython365]

I would have preferred it just have Rapid Hit or something

[@imaginecasually332]

Same miss OG Hawkmoon. Sucks to use on console with the change the damage buff to get multiple back to back crits seems butter smooth on pc

[@mythicplays7150]

martyrs is being sunset, i'm really upset about it

[@primal3339]

yep it sucks id go pick up a deafening whisper

[@deathy2885]

As a person who does not use grenade launchers i dismantled that i soon as I unlocked it

[@slackstarfish8133]

I just think they attached the hawkmoon name to it so they didn’t have to brother making a new gun model for it, even though it’s nothing like the original. I’d rather it just be a new handcannon

[@randomdude8544]

It's a new hawkmoon, similar perk yo D1, and it has a randomness effect, I know its not D1 hawkmoon but its literally explained in the story why its different.

[@ianmouloua1531]

this is the earliest ive ever been

[@DylexionTV]

same

[@ItsTendy27]

Same

[@adegu]

Same

[@nainidsouza6940]

Same

[@ravenrose7184]

Same

[@obi-wanpepproni3576]

NOW THAT’S A LOT OF DAMAGE but i’d rather not use an exotic slot for this... oh well back to lament

[@antoniogiop]

Lul chainsaw sword gor BURRRRRR

[@syreoo8568]

It doesn't feel as exotic as it did in d1 imo, can't wait for random rolls tho

[@sneakysnakesullytv8444]

I personally think it does. It still has the ability to get 2 taps in the crucible, which was what it was all about in D1and it actually takes skill now and isn’t just random

[@seb5542]

@@sneakysnakesullytv8444 definitely agree. It requires you to land your crits and have good gunskill in order to get a brilliant pay off. And before it just gave out free kills effectively based upon luck and it didn't require you to be any good, which isn't something that should be encouraged. Nor is it good for the state of the crucible.

[@sneakysnakesullytv8444]

@@seb5542 based God

[@abyss7433]

Random rolls thats crazy I say they should keep this up.

[@slackstarfish8133]

If they continue it, I don’t want it to be a regular thing

[@randomdude8544]

@@slackstarfish8133 its hawkmoon specific, chill

[@elchancho8432]

@@slackstarfish8133 I just don’t like it

[@ElPapitoPapi]

**cries in just got a recombination reconstruction heritage thinking it was op**

[@natefroggy3626]

it is don’t worry lmao

[@gannonjones7614]

Still way better for dps. You gotta remember, this build requires a LOT of set up

[@fobbitoperator3620]

It is, especially if you use it WITH Hawkmoon!

[@ElPapitoPapi]

@@fobbitoperator3620 How?

[@ElPapitoPapi]

@@natefroggy3626 I was about to shard it

[@misterboateng9856]

"Omg this weapon can 2 phase taniks with Divinity, last bullet does 100k damage, crazy, best dps option" Or... You can one phase with slugs and Anarchy and not waste time shooting an handcannon.

[@thess7156]

The thing is, what's the point of this in PvE when we have things like the lament?

[@keller6920]

exactly, primary exotics are just waste of exotic slot (besides outbreak, in some situations, but im not sure)

[@yourfathersfather8751]

>fun >not all enemies can be killed with a sword >very little content demands the overkill DPS on offer from lament >fun

[@RONNIE5579]

Because you don't always need a sword...

[@thess7156]

@@RONNIE5579 I know that you dont always need a sword, what I'm saying is why use this for dps when we have things that are higher in dps and are better in general?

[@hitherez_2925]

Um Range Heavy ammo Floating things Fun factor

[@cjrun2422]

I just think random rolls on exotic weapons (that currently don’t even drop from engrams anymore) is just a terrible idea.🤷‍♂️ How are you suppose to farm for it ? Exactly, you can’t. lol

[@portlandtn1]

The mission you did to get the gun is going to become an activity you can farm for it.

[@eren_jager2001]

cant you grab it from your exotic collection?

[@SilenceUnspoken]

Can’t be said for sure but it seems that there’ll be a modified mission like the last part of the quest used to farm it

[@johnburtram588]

You can't, right now. Next week when they add the replayable mission you will be able to

[@trkrownn]

bruh it's not a bad idea at all stop being a baby and give it a chance, obv they're gonna make a way for us to farm it from the mission or something...

[@keenanthornley7680]

As a hunter you can use lucky pants, and another hand cannon which is a given, to completely eliminate the worries of missing a precision or a final blow, because honestly paracausal shot just isn't worth it if you shoot one with anything other than 7x. If you get down to 2 bullets in the mag but only have, say, 4 stacks, whip out your energy hand cannon and get some precision shots, and then bam Hawkmoon's mag will be replenished but you won't have lost the paracausal stacks.

[@ZAPcon]

man back in 2016 i started working on my own personal game project in unreal, highly inspired by destiny gameplay and weaponry. the FIRST gun i came up with was basically a revolver that did almost the exact same thing as the new Hawkmoon, except the final round caused a huge explosion (like firefly) upon critical hit. really excited to try out new Hawkmoon now!

[@nickmcgraw368]

Just did some testing with some different exotics. if you use lucky pants you load one bullet back into hawkmoon at a time, by using lucky pants you will not reset paracausal shot. you need a two shots left in the mag and you can only refill 5 shots(refilling 6 shots will put 8 into the mag, this will remove paracausal). while testing this I discovered that you're only limited to a 7x stack of paracausal shot no matter the amount of shots of you have in a mag

[@notwillferrell8583]

For an alternative and arguably better Hunter build with this gun, try running Athrys’s Embrace with bottom tree gunslinger, and use the following Charged with Light mods: Precision charge, Stacks on Stacks, Supercharged (optional), and High Energy Fire. You could also throw in a Taking Charge mod if you’re having trouble keeping up stacks of Charged with Light. Use the first 7 bullets to get precision kills with Hawkmoon, it should be pretty easy with that 93 Aim Assist, by then you should have at least 1 leftover stack of High a Energy Fire. Shoot the precision shot at a major/mini boss/champion, then use the Strengthened Heavy knife from Athrys’s for easy cleanup. It’s like a ranged version of the classic Combination Blow + Liar’s Handshake + 1-2 Punch build.

[@murkxassassin2569]

Better yet, add to it by throwing in a Prophet of Doom (GoS shotgun) or Xenoclast with 1/2 punch. Hit the shotgun and then use the weighted knife for 100k+

[@jasonmessier8593]

Thank you for the builds and breakdown videos, they help tremendously and appreciate your content

[@csmitty123]

Great build guide! Excited to try this one. Thanks!

[@eman111555]

Thanks for these videos I really enjoy the creativity in these builds

[@iEndGrave]

Best part about this. I put this build together earlier this year for Outbreak. Swapping in Hawk 🌕. Bravo bungie. Bravo

[@communistracoon3236]

now pair it with warminds decree, allowing you to use a void subclass. use devour voidwalker and now every kill with hawkmoon heals you alongside these benefits

[@Happyfrenchfry]

Love the creative builds man, keep up the good work.

[@cazihel]

infact, the stacks will only go away once the magazine has 8 rounds in it. if you use lucky pants (reloads 1 round per headshot into stowed handcannons) you can get back up to 7 shots in the mag, but sadly you cant get more than 7 stacks of paracausal rounds.

[@Inditorias]

Lucky pants are a workaround for the reloading. Catch is if you fill the magazine fully the charge goes away.

[@rkneegordon6316]

Always great to see your builds. Thanks gain.

[@findsyru-]

So glad u blowing up bro !

[@zylo4029]

Every video is see from you I regret missing the Warmind Cell mods more and more

[@DestinyYagami]

dude ALWAYS on point with the builds my God . keep up the awesomeness Ehroar

[@jordilabartra3174]

Have you tried hawkmoon with lucky pants? You can acctually reload it without losing the buff.

[@theF0R3N]

Something you didnt mention is the ability to add unstoppable to it. This could be usable in high end activities if you stun a champ, and land your follow up crits. I dont have numbers of course but hitting a stunned champ with x7 would surely bright it to absolute

[@CloneMalone]

You can't deny that this season has been fantastic for quality weapons. Glad to see Bungie also acknowledged that and literally said next they are working on both quality and quantity.

[@kaizen_5091]

Build synergy, maximizing usage and optimal dps.... your builds are smart in ways I would have never considered. Thnx for uploads Ehroar, keep 'em coming :)

[@kolewolf7141]

Your builds are top notch keep up the great work!

[@rorbert6027]

Is the lost sector in under 2 minute video gone??

[@banditdawgs]

Hold up! If Carl isn’t a boss and you don’t put boss spec on the first in last out… Why would you count the numbers on a roll with vorpal?

[@banditdawgs]

Can some one explain

[@Yikes705]

I dunno if i like random rolls on exotics since it's basically glorified pinnacles what i mean by that is pinnacle gear usually had regular grips like any other legendary with one special intrinsic perk the advantage pinnacle gear had besides some crazy perks was it counted as a legendary weapon meaning you can still use an exotic therefore exotic gear with random rolls are kinda a downgrade if they wanna change stuff up use the upgrade system d1 used it was fine

[@_knighted]

What's the shader on your FILO? It looks sick

[@samith_3]

I feel like another way to use this is to actually rock double primary. I know what you're thinking but give me a second to explain. You use hawkmoon until you have 6 stacks of the perk and two bullets left, and then you switch to something like the ikelos smg to create warmind cells and be the add clear. Then, when you have to clear a major or something then you pull out the primed hawkmoon and shoot it once in the head to get the x7 shot and then shoot it again and kill it. Then you would have something like falling guillotine for boss damage. With this you would have something to consistently cover add clear with the smg and warmind cells, hawkmoon would cover all of your special weapon needs with clearing out more high health targets, and then falling guillotine for boss damage. And with hawkmoon covering the place of a special weapon with super high burst damage, you would pretty much always have it and not have to worry about ammo

[@clayton9547]

Random rolls are a good idea but not at the expense of a synergistic perk (I.e. the NTTE with its time slip perk alongside its intrinsic infinite ammo generation) it feels like hawk moon is just a legendary that takes up an exotic slot for every shot but it’s last

[@Aaron_LH]

Recombo on the raid shotty mops the floor with hawkmoon. It may not do as much damage but its not far behind. Furthermore, you charge it passively in the background. You can stow the weapon. You can reload it. The buff isnt going anywhere until you fire. With hawkmoon I find myself worrying too much about where I'm at in the magazine. Worrying about hitting all crits. Trying to remind myself not to reload it. Whereas with the raid shotty, I run into a major and simply pull it out and a x10 shot is waiting for me. Zero thought required. And the cherry on top? I dont have to sacrifice my exotic slot for it.

[@jarredefelton4165]

One way to get bullets back as a Hunter, is using lucky pants. You can't get past x7 Paracausal Charge, but it can help you get a couple bullets back to get up to x7. It's not the most practical thing, but is an interesting interaction with it

[@Ricks408]

That build is fire ngl. I'll use it more now especially since I payed for the ornament lol it was almost gonna gather dust in the vault

[@adi_c-171]

Hey ehroar this is off topic but osmosis on a primary like breachlight can do stasis damage if u have the subclass equipped. Kinda cool considering the only base stasis damage weapon is that exotic GL

[@melodygritsipis2735]

No it cannot. Osmosis only takes the element of Light based subclasses, like it says in the actual perk description.

[@adi_c-171]

@@melodygritsipis2735 I think they patched it because when I did it it was like 2 weeks ago, sorry for the info not being current

[@melodygritsipis2735]

@@adi_c-171 Nah I checked it day 1 because I was saving a Buzzard solely to try it. Never worked.

[@CTaG14]

Any good combos for PVE hunter?

[@MrAustyn88]

Just started play on PC. Played when the game first game on on console for the first month and hadn't played since then. Lost on the lore/story/meta. What would be the best handcannon for both PVE and PVP?? As in one versatile enough to just use all the time but not necessarily the best for either?

[@Sadoruro]

I would have really liked a dps breakdown on that weapon. It's certainly one of the very few primary on which a dps test would be revelant imo.

[@SillehRiver]

You should totally test out double HC with Lucky Pants! Maybe the reloading from that won't cancel it out?

[@GamePolicies]

Izanagi to Hawkmoon, “Know your place, heathen”.

[@yugijak]

I learned about the perk and my first thought was "Chromatic fire would absolutely break this weapon" I had no idea how right I was. But the question is: Does the damage buff extend to the explosion?

[@MichaOstrowski]

In a way - the explosions are bigger and do more damage with higher damage of the final blow

[@readyforlol]

@@MichaOstrowski Really ?

[@MichaOstrowski]

@@readyforlol yeah, try with some primary, and then with Arbalest or some sniper

[@cebulak549]

You can reload it with lucky pants but if u reload it fully it looses charge, also 7 stacks is maximum at the moment

[@Ace5004]

How bout dropping the GL for Seraph shotgun/ Ikelos shotgun. dropping blast radius for Incinerating Light, the Warmind cell mod that gives explosions CWL. That way you can swap to shotgun to detonate cells instead of wasting Hawkmoon shots. You can do the same with the Ikelos sniper if you prefer snipers. Marty and Blast Radius seem to do something you're already doing but adding another step, but by using Incinerating Light you gain CWL for your sword without pigeon holding you to Marty shots. You also get a weapon for dealing with majors, ultras and bosses (sniper) when you don't have paracausal stacks or need range (sniper). Marty just gives you more... add control when you already are drowning in it. you can also just use Charge Harvestor.

[@Wolfblur]

Would love to see more on this for fun, like what would its boss DPS be over two mags, maybe with Divinity and Bubble and stuff. Also Disruption Break bonus damage if it lasts long enough for Hawkmoon's whole mag. Great stuff though, thanks for the vids

[@kekaidavidson8638]

have you tried deafening whisper with ambitious assassin ? its nice

[@MasterSorez]

Crazy idea but, how would 5 hawkmoons + divinity on taniks fair?

[@Chriss_2s]

@Ehroar a build idea, and a build that I use myself is Hawkmoon on hunter, top golden gun, and the new gauntlets.

[@bencarney9833]

The firefly doesn't do much damage? Unless they are too far away when I kill them

[@mikeystout9964]

Does the perk work with weapons of light ? Or other damage buffing abilities

[@MrWiiman555]

So if hawkmoon comes with random rolls. Is there way grind/ reroll it till you get the version you want?

[@chriszero5209]

We used it in the raid for the final boss last night granted it’s not as OP as the meta but getting 102,300 damage every eight shots with divinity. It’s good for those that don’t have a good shotgun primary hawk moon does great.

[@kell9629]

The transversive steps thing is the same for sealed ahamkara grasps for Hunter

[@CapsFan]

The catalyst should be you get the 7 bullet buff if you hit all 7 crits (on the last shot) and if you hit all 7 and the OP 8th bullet as a crit, the first shot of the next reload is paracausal x8 and gives you something like 24x damage.

[@spark9982]

Hey ehroar how do you solo queue into a strike like that?

[@readyforlol]

Ordeal above certain difficulties don't have matchmaking, so if you don't squad up and start one you'll just land there on your own.

[@karlnorlock7087]

The muzzle flash on Hawkmoon is cool

[@richiej2640351]

Yup I’ve pretty much built the same build, so dang good

[@Mrbuzz790]

Probably said a lot but LUCKY PANTS WORKS AND DOESNT GET RID OF THE CHARGES. I use a Reconstruction, One For All Posterity which both perks work while the weapon is stowed, but Hunter Void Melee does get rid of the charges if uou throw it.