Hayley Williams: Writing ‘Petals for Armor,’ Paramore, and Musical Evolution | Apple Music

[@kenzieluvrify]

I love how in depth Zane goes to actually understanding the artist on a truly personal level, while also not putting them in uncomfortable positions with that knowledge just to get a story.

[@emie1170]

@aljanat5 totally unrelated and unnecessarily depressive and subjective but ok

[@fedem14]

i could listen to hayley talk for hours and not get bored

[@conditionedby]

Very true, i watched the other 42 min interview and i was like That's it only 42 min? It's kinda soothing.

[@user-cu6zg2cu3u]

Yeah, she's so relaxing i don't know...

[@Porenesianparapio]

Fede M same for me.

[@starsey1986]

I know what you mean . She is the most realistic artist in the music business and a great cool human , she's like a sweet mate you have who wouldn't have judgement against people

[@froggeh3036]

true, i watched the 46min interview and felt like it wasnt enough so i watched this one and i really was curious on what was next.

[@rachrach8679]

“I have to take responsibility for what I do with those feeling” a lesson we all need to learn. well said.

[@toxicallypink]

This album is an acknowledgement of pain and a celebration of love. It's beautiful

[@Crazyarchfiend]

I cant believe she brought Jeremy up. I love this interview so much

[@sofiafarina]

You can read the Vulture interview. She dropped everything there too. All the things about Josh. Misery Business. Sherri Dupree.

[@BG12sofia]

On one hand I'm kinda surprised we're bringing this up again, almost ten years after Josh left the way that he did. On the other hand, since Hayley has been saying in multiple interviews that therapy allowed her to realise she has abandonment issues and that she tried to create a substitute family with Paramore... no wonder we're discussing Josh and Jeremy leaving again.

[@Crazyarchfiend]

@@sofiafarina I was speechless. Cant believe she called out Josh and Jeremy for fighting about the money, especially since she's cool with Zac now.

[@zeeq7331]

She did not really call them out though. For Josh, she and Taylor actually bumped into him and prolly catch up. And things are healed and they all moved on. She even admitted in Vulture interview (or whichever article) that she had a crush on Josh before. But it was in the past. For Jeremy, this is the first time she said his name in a long long time. THAT, I am surprised.

[@sofiafarina]

Sofia Hey we have the same name :-D Anyways, exactly. She usually would be very closed off to those kind of conversations before but look at what it got her. Mental health issues and EVEN physical issues. She needed to write this album into existence for her sake to heal. Also, we can all learn from this too. Healing traumas and unresolved issues within ourselves. So I guess these conversations and her answers needed to be verbalized in order to understand the narrative and underlying issues of what was.

[@piiriii]

I think Hayley can only talk to Zane about such personal and serious feelings, as he completely understands her and she treats him not as a journalist but as best friend or even a therapist

[@Ben_419]

He’s like her unpaid therapist lmao

[@theplourde]

I wasn’t surprised that she quit the band, I kinda guessed that, that had happened and thank god for Taylor because we wouldn’t have gotten “After Laughter”. I’m also glad in some way that she and Taylor made up or got closure with Josh and I hope someday that they can heal A wound or two with Jeremy.

[@leonardoleal5092]

theplourde what closure was that? I didn’t get those parts where she talked about being in the wrong direction in her life and ignoring the signs and stuff.. I used to love Paramore but for the last years I’ve been oblivious of what’s been happening with her

[@nicolebrown5987]

Rumor had it that her and Josh dated prior to her relationship with her husband. I can see as a 18 or 19 year how one can be petty and unprofessional after the relationship ended. They were kids.

[@sabhyata2655]

@Trent i thought it was chad cheating on his ex wife with hayley

[@MeepitQueen27]

@@bubbacalling You’ve never been 15 and made a dumb decision, thinking you could maneuver it? Yikes. Maybe try a little perspective and empathy

[@bubbacalling]

@@MeepitQueen27 well I wouldn't have signed a life changing legal contract at 15, no. Not without independent legal advice. But she just went with what her Dad said at the time.

[@eddiedeli]

Really wasn't expecting an in depth analysis of peek-a-boo and have it be used as an analogy at the same time, but Hayley never fails to amaze me.

[@Tirtougay]

Grateful to be just a few years younger than her so I can learn from her and use her wisdom 🥺

[@josepha133]

Same

[@flowerforvase]

Exactly! Like, fews years enough to learn but not too many years apart that I wouldn't be able to relate.

[@eliashernandez33]

what im thiking what her interviews lately

[@shaynalemay8516]

I love how mature & self aware she is in this season of her life.😊

[@olorinKI]

Any Zane & Hayley/ Paramore interview is truly the best. You get the best from these interviews.

[@pedroluz1233]

Hayley softly saying 'peek-a-boo' at 10:58 makes my heart melt.

[@hmadden]

imagine, she's super inlove during this but none of us ever noticed. TayLey ❤️

[@mariafrancescaparretta7292]

4:40 gosh, she really stayed in that relationship and got married with that state of mind... I wonder if Told You So is about this. I've always had, and this strenghten my guess

[@sarinam9988]

I’ve never watched him interview anyone else but I’ve watched his interviews with paramore and Hayley herself and every time they just draw me in

[@hollys6299]

So happy to see this. Their connection is incredible.

[@silvernight3428]

I'm forever enjoying Hayley's hair colour/style. She's looking as beautiful and awesomely fit as always.

[@marianocolombo347]

This is why I love Hayley and Taylor so much.

[@Luckyman187]

Man these two have such a great conversational chemistry

[@rattersching1990]

"I was essentially just doing it for a broken part of myself. I wasn't doing it to learn, I wasn't doing it to grow.. I was just trying to cover up something." Thank you for these words Hayley.

[@najalipicnik2122]

This is a groundbreaking duo

[@davidwonpu353]

Josh was the childhood heartbreak and Jeremy and Chad were the adult heartbreaks

[@stephaniepinto9390]

Yes!!!

[@jojo-fj7lw]

How do you know

[@florencefortyseven]

This is one of Zane's better efforts. I was so frustrated with the previous interview, because he was trying to be a fringe therapist, and pushed Hayley WAY, way too far. I'm sure someone might have tapped on the shoulder after that, but this was enjoyable. "You're lucky, because some people go on for decades before it falls apart" is such a great observation.

[@jessicahernandez1853]

Omg I could not feel more related to what she's saying and to the album...right now I'm going trought a healing process after a toxic relationship, it took me years to learn a lot of stuff, to even realize it. Always been a Paramore fan, and I'm so happy that the music has been there for me in all of these parts of my life where I needed it. This album is something that fits my present moment and process so much. Love you Hayley, thanks for your honesty and sharing your life with us

[@wiiigz]

Hayley is a guiding light for so many. I am SO grateful for her sharing her struggle because it crystallizes mine and brings me to the present so that I too can grow. THANK YOU!

[@jormun8]

what an absolutely beautiful human being inside and out

[@fabric.soundz]

She is definitely grown. Its like she just walks on a path of words and in hopes she will find her way...deep

[@Ch0cHead]

Gah this interview is so soothing to me...! The insightful questions, and the thoughtful answers. Love watching these two explore ideas and music.

[@hollyroxy25]

It just has to be said,.....She is so damn pretty ❤❤❤

[@flowerforvase]

The ending of this interview... Damn, it hit me so hard. Thank you so much.

[@seanfrank32]

This is why I love the internet. Never would have found this amazing artist.

[@griselhernandez578]

This just spoke volumes❤️

[@jessicavarias7280]

Idk why, but whenever these two talk, I feel like I'm listening to a therapy session. I feel it to my core 💔

[@hegleevangelista7117]

Hey Hayley! I've been through the same problems tha Hayley did. The childhood, the marriage, our vision of ourselves and etc... But I can see that therapy is doing amazing things to us both. Thank you for being my role model as a teen but now with this album (that looks like I've written myself) I feel like you are a "friend" and I am really happy for you Hayley just because you are YOU now. (I know she s not gonna read it, but whatever man)

[@tovmusic]

I give props to her for still being able to trust and have faith in people after her divorce and band members leaving the band in vitriol. It takes a lot of perception and heart to not have a cynical worldview after such trauma.

[@soffiegirl1027]

For reals the best interviewer. All of her interviews with him are some deep and wonderful shit. #1000%hereforit

[@phoenixknight5828]

This feels so good to me cause I was a young teenager when all this happened, I’d just seen them for the first time all together on the bne tour and then so soon after Josh and Zac left and reading the things that were said about Hayley made me so confused because I was so young and had looked up to her for so long and to read that stuff it made me question everything, and then the change up in genre in the following albums made me confused and now so nice to go back and listen to albums like the self titled one and know more of what was happening and especially after laughter, and know I understand why so much changed and I’m so greatly for it, it all feels so right now and completely eliminates the confusion and bad vibes I felt about everything after BNE 🖤 I love how candid she’s being and I feel so sorry for ever doubting her, I know she’s not perfect but that’s the point! And that’s why she’s such a roll model to me even now, she’s owning her part but also explaining so much more of the full story and it really makes everything fall into place. Hayley and Paramore will always be in my heart. 🖤

[@Mollydollyyyy]

Beautiful interview. Petals For Armor has been intensely cathartic for me and just so...ah I don't have words. Thank you.

[@YulfitriNesha]

Love this interview so much, deep and make her smile. Petals for armor is great!

[@AgusAbrego18]

Amo como Zane lleva sus entrevistas tan profundo y hace sentir siempre cómodo al entrevistado

[@conycepeda5906]

Hayley's interviews are the best. Always deep and insightful, makes you think about your own shit.

[@joshuamichaelcook1987]

HAYLEY IS THE BEST !! Dope Interview! Also Zane Lowe is the man!! so many legit interviews!!

[@leonardoleal5092]

Joshua Michael Cook why did she get divorce? I didn’t get the parts where she talks about that and moving back to Tennessee and her family and stuff..

[@joshuamichaelcook1987]

@@leonardoleal5092 I'm not sure. Sorry dude you would have to ask hayley.

[@tiffanieoverby7803]

Leonardo Leal her crepo ex husband was cheating on her and just a asshole douchbag in general but I mean she herself stated it in a new song on her new album but she was the other woman in the beginning....when they first got together chad was already married and cheated on his then wife with Hayley and then divorced the wife after she found out

[@fecsf9610]

Coming back to this iterview after the Josh thing, and I couldn't be more disappointed with him and proud of Hayley

[@ashleydanielle2736]

God damnit Hayley...I love you woman. You've gotten me through so much as a 33 year old lady (said like Jenna Marbles🤣). All the while going through your own personal storm. I'm grateful that you're in a place where you can begin to discuss it so openly. Over 10 years ago I lost my self....literally and figuratively. I got married and divorced all before 22. I empathize with your life's story and I am excited to see what the future holds for us as fans of your creative out put. Much love from some where in the ball sack of California. 😯🤣✌♥️

[@shiilovesdogs]

I love Hayley+Zane interviews

[@phutureproof]

I'm not the biggest fan of this girl or the band, don't get me wrong I don't dislike her it's just not my normal cup of tea musically, but what I do enjoy is her growth, I can't speak for the other band members as I have no idea what they're up to, but, I do like to watch her adventures both in music and in life, good luck to all of them.

[@MelisaBarrios]

She's sooo strong It's unbelievable, truly a gem.

[@tabularasaconfirmed]

Zane seems so excited for Hayley. He knows. I’m so happy for her.

[@midnightfiona]

i'm so grateful for these interviews Hayley did with Zane, it just puts me into perspective of how she feels/ felt, her thoughts and how they are channeled everything through her music... thank you (even thought thank you is overrated)

[@xchorro]

i’ve been an avid paramore since 2008, riot days and i grew up with them HARDCORE. i’m 20 years old going to be 21 in a few months. damn, so much has changed

[@BrandosLife]

Just so pure and beautiful

[@GigaMarou]

letting go, will ultimately bring people in our live that want to stay :):

[@lilybsrose]

Man i miss Jeremy and his little daughter and Hayley being a cute aunt to her 🥺😢

[@redzonesportscards2021]

Just started listening to Paramore. Hayley is an amazing woman for sure! Real and honest.

[@JRaptorCQC]

Haley William's is a Punk Rock, Pop Rock, Alt Rock Icon. She is on her way to Legendary. Haley William's is by far the Best Female in what she does... Can't be touched!

[@themusicjunkie4life]

I love all of Zane’s interviews, he truly cares and takes the time to get to know the human behind the music.

[@oranjjjggg]

The Jeremy quitting and lawsuit to me seemed like what ultimately initiated this awakening of sorts she’s having. But then divorce. Eesh. Yet from great pain comes great growth

[@BlackFox15]

I can relate a lot to her spiritual awakening/nervous breakdown... man when that light switches on and you wake up out of your depression and false illusions it is painful as hell, unbearable, you have to be strong to make it to the other side but if you do you end up like Hayley. Stronger and all the more wiser and content with yourself. I pray she only continues to grow and find herself! I know I am.

[@von_freiesleben64]

all recent interviews with her are full of great life advice :)

[@xe0vana]

love these two so much

[@bruford911]

I love how he spends the first minute putting words in her mouth.

[@Lauren_182]

I really love this, I could listen to hayley talk all day 😊

[@JessLayton]

ugh zane lowe is such a good interviewer

[@jaypresley5392]

This hits home so much. Thank you for sharing your pain.

[@meredithsanderson6808]

I love her and paramore and I love this album so much.

[@zachrizzo6525]

I just want to give Hayley a big hug

[@alainajoe4082]

Amazing Interview! Hayley has so much wisdom and so much too give to the world. She is so relatable and realistic. 😁

[@xSlsox]

Hayley is such an inspiration!

[@ericotto314]

Wise woman, great interview. 🖤

[@rattersching1990]

4:00 you beat it like a dead horse, you beat it like a drum

[@mzboomboom320]

This needs to be 2 hours longer

[@jasonlieberman4606]

I just knew she's an insightful one.

[@princecalypse9609]

Hayley 😍💕

[@cremepuffle]

I wish i was her friend🥺🥺🥺

[@dianavogel4741]

please tell me there is a full part with the 2-hour duration!

[@edgarmarinho6634]

Harsh to hear she had to go through all of this within her heart to get to where she is now. But it's life I guess, and thank god she was able to turn it into music and give us this piece of art which is Petals for Armor. Thanks for another killer interview, Zane, you rock.

[@shiilovesdogs]

whoa what a deep thought to the aspect of "peek-a-boo"!! O___O now i'll always remember that when i play that with a kid!

[@ivonnneet]

i got 2 sad, she deserves better, everytime

[@paulettejordan8505]

This is such a great interview. I'm so glad that she brought up the Jeremy situation.

[@breadforfeet6740]

I would love to see Hayley and Matt from Cage the Elephant work together. They both have a Bohemian spirit.

[@yelhsacabrera]

I wish they would just post the second part of the interview instead of just giving us a brief summary lol. I wouldn’t mind seeing them sit together during this time.... it would give me hope for when we all can do it again

[@vanessacassenote7321]

'peek-a-boo' has never been so deep. Love it :D

[@MsAthina013]

I love you Hayley 🌸💜🌹

[@Paperhuman15]

love you unconditionally, no matter what your life choices are x

[@soyfrancislynn]

Can’t believe I hadn’t seen this before. 😇

[@colinbason]

The way zane says toxic is very emphatic

[@billyalarie929]

He truly gets it. I feel like that specific moment from him came from someplace indescribable.

[@J_Mayhem]

this interview is really great.

[@ashcabrera4779]

however many months later and i still want to hear the second part of that interview

[@fidelcastrato3088]

hayley!

[@froggeh3036]

I wish i had Zane's skill in talking about very deep personal stuff and not making it awkward or something i should dive into.... Cause here's me wanting to talk to somebody not even personal stuff just a normal conversation, and making it awkward and causes them to leave ffs.

[@prepare4storms807]

You learn and grow by every challenge. Without those crazy key times of life, the good and bad experiences, the failures and successes, they all must channel themselves through the struggles themselves. Hang in there. No one has all the answers. Only together can we solve the puzzle. Yet, you have to put yourself ahead of everyone else. You can't save the world if you don't exist.

[@imaperson8617]

so cute!!

[@kevinguziec2497]

Can't say I'm a fan of petals or much of the Paramore catalog. The first album all we know is pretty rad but I respect the hell out of Hayley for her writing.

[@DarlaBaltazar]

hot DAWG that last insight

[@violetacastillo1072]

QUEEEN

[@fishbeaumont1907]

I watched Hayley say "peekaboo" 10x to self-soothe

[@rococopati]

i love hayle she is the best

[@Olivia-ds4zt]

Man I love this woman 🤭

[@lettyramirez]

Zane Lowe is such an amazing interviewer!

[@macm8c795]

love hayley

[@iana6713]

Listened to a few songs from Petals for Armor, and they're deep. Trying to figure out whether to get the album, as it's a bit different to my usual choice of music.