Hazbin Hotel Season 2 BIGGEST LEAK EXPLAINED! - Hazbin Hotel

[@AnimationWorld11509]

1st! Can I get pinned!?

[@hex-i4q]

Alastor soul is owned a Rosie lute has a duet with adam we see alastor sell his soul to Rosie in a flash back sera has regrets on killing sinners

[@zjaew74DY]

@@hex-i4q Not Lute and Adam, is it? Heard it was Adam's son.

[@animehypehouse5546]

Pinned!

[@Free-1231]

The geisha looking thing was the speaker of god

[@GrantGarde]

Quit spoiling the show bro I didn't know Rosie owned alastor soul thx ashole

[@LumaSloth]

2:20 It is NOT Adam's son(Abel). Lute is just hallucinating Adam in her head. Abel does appear in the end of the song though.

[@HandsomeFrederickFastbear]

Isnt like Avel also in hell after Cain killed him in the original mythology

[@harem8437]

@@HandsomeFrederickFastbear Don’t read the Bible don’t u okk find Cain killed Abel first murder first death Abel still had sin but god likely wipe away Abel sins since he technically won meaning Abel is someone in heaven or not but he definitely not in hell bc he never did anything wrong

[@szlaven8254]

its a ghost kind of thing bc everyone sees him not only lute.

[@BlazeFiresoul]

Yeah, the hallucination of Adam is DEFINITELY giving off some Dusttale Pap vibes. Sans was grieving after having to kill his brother, and thus imagined him fighting side by side with him, and Lute watched Adam die, meaning to cope, she’ll imagine he isn’t dead.

[@szlaven8254]

@BlazeFiresoul she knows adam is dead even when she imagines him.

[@fnfethusiast6508]

That wasn’t Adam’s son Lute was singing with, that’s Adam himself but either he’s a ghost or is in Lute’s head

[@DokkanLad]

A ghost? how?

[@KichimuraWashuu303]

She's just crazy, she have visions of adam even though hes dead its in her head

[@Omnisix]

I still hope that he comes back as a sinner :p

[@KichimuraWashuu303]

@@Omnisix he was killed by angelic weapon so i think its very little possibility but that song with lute and "him" was really something

[@terezadeluca6567]

I think it is an hologram

[@wordsmith6154]

Rosie has to be someone else. She has to be Roo in civilian form or something. There's a whole theory that cannibals aren't really sinners, which would make sense here.

[@omegaproductions6660]

Nah man you’re just going through the five stages of grief jk

[@Dray_4_0_5]

GOD im praying that Rosie isnt who she says she is. CAUSE HOW DOES A HELLBORN OVERLORD HAVE SO MUCH POWER?!

[@wordsmith6154]

@Dray_4_0_5 Right? And she knows so much about Alastor. She shouldn't have known so much if he isn't keen to revel on the past.

[@omegaproductions6660]

@@Dray_4_0_5 they’re hellborn. They know this place and how it works better than sinners

[@pwsies]

Major Spoiler Warning. - - - - According to a Leak, Lilith is disguised as Rosie.

[@Phoenix_Stace]

I think Rosie being the one that owns Alastor soul was so out there Especially since S1 E7 Rosie was really close with Alastor and they seemed like good friends with giving him advice for people who he could make deals with and also with the fact that Rosie even said to Alastor the day when he came to see Rosie she was like "Alastor where have you been?" Personally i just think it was really out there reveling that Rosie owns Alastor and i don't know how to feel about it to be honest

[@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739]

IKR! it feels like they said “It’s going to be Rosie because nobody suspects her” but, then where does the 7 years abcense of Alastor and Lilith go?

[@Idkpisyapopa]

No

[@Idkpisyapopa]

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[@PowerCup1d_C0re]

@@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739Theory: I bet Lilith and alastor have nothing to do with each other maybe?? And they (writers/Vivziepop) made it seem like they do so they (fandom) suspect Lilith owning alastor soul although plot twist: it was Rosie so nobody suspected it was her, since Lilith owning alastor soul would be so obvious 🤷‍♀️

[@jules6735]

@@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739 Ahh, the classic red herring strikes again! Bro just needed a break from Vox and the dudes not so subtle obsession with him😂😂

[@Kyoko123]

1:04 I think that we’re really underestimating Rosie’s potential. Some people have done digging on her character design / comparing it to a few others, and she may have a few secrets to pull out of her hat.

[@CyberJiveCreations]

SPOILERS: I feel that Season 2 is leading up to something big with Alastor, like maybe a second and much larger breakdown. Like absolutely everything is going against Alastor in season 2 from what ive seen and its driving him up the wall. 1. We see Alastor looking into a mirror with his scar from Adam's battle. His hands are trembling and he is seen smoking a cigarette and drinking shots. 2. Lucifer being at the Hotel and teasing him made him give up and try to quit the Hotel entirely, which was very out of character. (I liked that Alastor's mug was labelled with "Duck season") 3. Then Rosie starts tormenting him on her ownership over his soul, tugging him around on a leash and making him recite the song. It seemingly isnt the first time he's had to sing it. 4. Then we see from the artwork and still frames that Alastor is going to get kidnapped by the Vees and humiliated by Vox, alongside Angel Dust who gets hypnotised at one point. What could go wrong? Thats four entire plots against Alastor that he is having to battle against. The nasty scar and humiliation of fleeing, Lucifer's presence egging him on at the Hotel he is being forced to stay at against his will, Rosie's torment and refusal to fix his staff and Vox targetting him. Even for someone like Alastor, theres only so much he can take and it will be interesting to see if his character crumbles from it all. It is eating away at his pride. He was already pulling his hair out in the finale of Season 1, it will probably get worse.

[@ahoy2010]

Okay bro, but alastor was never smoking a cigarette i think i never saw that, i only saw him drink but i was a bit surprised when i saw him drinking. Anyways i saw a full 10mins of the full scene or just part of the entire episode on TikTok and didn’t see alastor smoking

[@CyberJiveCreations]

@ahoy2010 He was smoking! It's a little hard to spot but at the very start of the mirror scene he had a cigarette wedged in his fingers. You can hear him sucking it in then exhaling when he looks up at himself. It suprised me too, super uncharacteristic of him

[@ahoy2010]

@@CyberJiveCreations oh okay i checked again and i did see it, but didn’t see smoke going out of his mouth so like uhh so i wonder why not shown? Bro has to be stressed to be drinking AND smoking also i dont thik i could see well cuz of the black text so yeh

[@CyberJiveCreations]

@@ahoy2010 That's fair! And it's not a finished piece of animation, it's only the storyboards and rough sketches at the moment. They probably intended to add the smoke in afterwards when the animation is complete. Hope that clears things up! And yeah I feel so bad for him. I saw a comment that said apparently Vivziepop stated that Alastor hates smoking a while ago? If that's true, then Alastor must be hitting rock bottom to resort to it now 🥲

[@TheOverlordx22]

I'm sorry, did you say KIDNAPPED? Yep, okay lol, I'm done. Dudes a freaking joke and, as far as I'm concerned, there's no coming back from that. Dude could kill Lucifer himself and it's not gonna matter. What a freaking load. Oh well, at least I've still got Lute XD

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

Alastor being owned by Rosie considering how nice of a relationship they have, vs how he treats Husker says a lot

[@sugarysweet07]

Except she treats Alastor exactly how Alastor treats Husk in their song: condescending and belittling. She even pets his head like he's a cat even though he hates being touched. Their relationship is not good at all

[@theotakux5959]

I feel like the only person who likes the idea of Rosie owning Alastor's soul. She doesn't seem like the type, so it hints to some hidden depths we haven't seen from her. Also feels interesting in implying his friendliness with Rosie in episode 7 is exactly what he was telling Charlie about at the start of the episode. Putting on a smile so people can't see your true feelings. In this case, hiding his resentment towards Rosie for owning his soul and limiting what he can do. And putting on an act of being purely her friend would keep people from suspecting she owns his soul.

[@STKHub]

It kinda fits, but then Zestial can own his soul and it'd be equally as compelling.

[@heresheis2063]

In that case, Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that smile. You can't tell from their interactions and expressions that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.

[@heresheis2063]

@@STKHub i know right, i doubt anyone expected it to be Rosie. There are those who thoughr it was either Zestial or Niffty too😂. Most popular theory is Lilith and Roo. Compared to all them, Rosie is the best theory

[@Eleanorr_0]

Yes I’m actually happy that got leaked omg

[@ThatInternetGuy420]

It’s just really lazy tie in to them both being cannibals. That’s pretty much the only thing to lean back on on this poor headcanon choice. Very disappointing imo

[@Grezilla95]

In an extended clip it was shown on n a flashback that Alastor sold is soul to Rosie when he was alive in order to secure his place as the most powerful sinner in hell (at the time of his death). Also in was a hallucination or hologram of Adam that was singing with Lute, Abel (Adam’s son) is shown later

[@STKHub]

Not just at the time. Rosie directly confirms he IS the strongest sinner, present tense.

[@a1saiyan382]

He still is the strongest sinner in hell,Zestial is older than him and he is said to be the strongest overlord(before Alastor came)

[@Pomeranian690]

​​​@@STKHubIt would make sense only cause Alastor seems to fake happy emotion near Rosie I can see inside of him is annoyed as hell

[@deleted_user_2135]

It is just a hallucination if Lute

[@HazbinFan_Forevermore]

I wish someone like Lilith was Alastor's master, cuz like, Al and Rosie are supposed to be besties and it kills the whole vibe!

[@motherofrats123]

clearly it was an act

[@fantasy-writing-v5z]

I’m calling it the one with Al and Rosie is a deep fake made by Vivian herself in the event these leaks happen just to throw everyone off

[@animehypehouse5546]

I hope so

[@fantasy-writing-v5z]

@@animehypehouse5546 yeah I mean it doesn’t make any sense and that leak with Al selling his soul is real but it certainly couldn’t have been Rosie he was selling it to

[@MinhNguyễnNgọc-z7q]

Yeah…I also don’t wanna think Rosie owns Alastor’s soul… I mean…They had a nice relationship and now i just don’t know if it’s just because she owned his soul Besides, it still doesn’t explain why Alastor was missing in 7 years and when he showed up, Rosie’s reaction is like she didn’t know why or where he was too. If she really own his soul, it shouldn’t be hard to know or just simply bring him to her place.

[@PapaIVCardinalCopia]

it wasn’t AI because if it was AI then it would be a little distorted but it wasn’t

[@Phobie_2000]

Really bro? You’re coping.

[@ciaranmcloughlin7165]

Abel is shown to be a lot more laidback and "not-give-a-fucky" than Adam.

[@whiterabbit4113]

Yeah, I'm thinking Adam is a figment of Lute's imagination, she loved him so much her mind shattered when he died

[@Litbolb]

Adel seems alot less annoying then Adam

[@multideltwd]

​@@LitbolbWdym, Adam was amazing.

[@Litbolb]

@@multideltwd adam is egotystical, unsympathetic and he's a huge narcissist.He has the mindset of a 3 years old and tbh I was cheering by ass off when he died in season 1

[@multideltwd]

@@Litbolb All of this is exactly why he's amazing.

[@shadowofdakness]

Rosie makes alot of sense and is a more fun answer than Lilith. Alastor is essentially a Wendigo demon and is well loved amongst cannibal demons so his ties to Rosie makes sense. Overal i feel bad for the fans who didn't want spoilers but man did i love that plot twist.

[@heresheis2063]

I suppose you're right. Lilith and Roo are the most popular theory but the most predictable and predictable is boring. Rosie is unexpected but this thoery would also suggest that Rosie is more than what is shown so far. All in all i still have a lot of questions. We may know who owns Alastor's soul but i still want to know the story about this.

[@ThatInternetGuy420]

Was super lazy and uninspired imo, only connection they have is cannibalism. Pretty dumb

[@shadowofdakness]

@@ThatInternetGuy420 Not lazy. Lazy and boring is choosing Lilith. There's even less connection aside from apparent time of disappearance. Nothing more. Rosie has the same style and hunger as Alastor and there are more fun possibilities with her. Plus this stops people's weird notions that Alastor has actual parental feelings for Charlie. There's just so much more with this reveal.

[@heresheis2063]

@@ThatInternetGuy420 there are multiple connections bet. them like the fact they are both overlords, they both like old fashioned and also the fact Alastor became a cannibal AFTER he descended to hell and due to Rosie's influence. You wouldn't guess at first that Rosie could be the owner of Alastor's soul from their interactions but with a little bit of imagination and if you analyze Rosie's interactions with Alastor and how brazen they are, the hints are there.

[@klavassassini]

​@@shadowofdaknessthe problem is Alistor-Rosie don't have any clues to go on. At least Alistor being owned by Lilith could be implied by the fact both were gone for the same amount of time.

[@mrsfahrenheit]

SPOILER honestly makes A LOT of sense it's Rosie because it was out there If you really think about it. They did drop some hints. For once Alastor did say to Charlie to not let Rosie fool her and that she's the most dangerous person in hell, then he talked to Charlie about the power of a smile and that no one knows what hides behind it and who also seems to be always smiling, happy and jolly? Rosie. Its subtle but it was there

[@heresheis2063]

Well no one definitely expected THAT twist. Though now that i think about it, it's not that unbelievable if you really think about it judging by their interactions but it would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown. Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul AT FIRST. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.

[@Emilyanns8]

If you rewatch the Cannibaltown scenes you can actually see moments where his resentment peeks through. I’ve also noticed that he seems to be able to dilate his pupils at will to manipulate people/disguise his intentions-you see him do it around both Rosie and Charlie during Hell’s Greatest Dad

[@contrarylibrarian]

@@heresheis2063 I did actually expect Rosie to be much more of a sinister character than not at all, and was throwing around the idea (with my twin) that she owned Alastor's soul, mostly because of their duet in Ready for This and the fact that she was the first he went to when needing help with something big. However, I wasn't FULLY expecting Vivzie to go that route, because she is known to change her mind about character midway through things based on fan interpretations or fan reactions.

[@TheSapphireLeo]

​@@contrarylibrarianWell, they are cnnibals, first and foremost, too?

[@Jay-gurl]

I'm actually working under the idea Rosie is just a show persona to Roo or Lilith. We've known for awhile that Rosie is a overlord BUT she isn't a sinner. At least, she is a soul that never died. So to me, this hints at Rosie being a more approachable disguise for a very powerful soul. Otherwise, how could a deal be made to make Alastor that powerful?

[@Edog7609]

1. Rosie is a helluva woman and a very dangerous person. So, I'm not too surprised about the situation with Alastor. 2. There might be the possibility that Roo's presence is more felt than seen. 3. The Queen of Hell has been around for a very long time. At one point, she sang of resistance. Rosie could have been a fan of Lilith at one point.

[@Pomeranian690]

It would make sense only cause Alastor seems to fake happy emotion near Rosie I can see inside of him is annoyed as hell

[@shini1908]

if you look back Rosie seems to be very happy when the cannibals accept charile as their general "there dancing along their sining her song!" as if charile becoming a leader is something she really want and they start to talk about potential that they can "guide" so i assume rosie and by proxy alistor want to make sure charile take the throne for whatever reason and with Rosie giving Charile advice and acting as a mother figure to her she will clearly have some position of power by the queen of hell that will allow her to achive whatever goal she has.

[@CyberweaverVT]

It’s not Abel in the song, it’s Adam’s ghost/memory

[@Fishfellow_II]

2:18 that’s not Adam’s son, that’s Adam. Lute’s just imagining him. He says as such actually. His son, Able, does actually look pretty different, wearing a more marching band-esque attire, although he does at one point wear his father’s helmet. He’s a much different character, not liking war and seemingly either gay or just slightly feminine. For that matter, Able doesn’t really feel driven for revenge because he knows his dad never cared about him. He reluctantly has become the leader of the exorcists.

[@Fishfellow_II]

1:14 how do we know Rosie isn’t actually Roo? Like, let’s be honest: how much do we actually know about her? In the backstory scene, it’s revealed that Rosie made her deal with Alastor while he was still alive, and he summoned her (at least in some form) through a ritual. First of all, I’m pretty sure if Sinners are restricted to the pride ring, they probably also can’t access earth. As well as that, if Rosie is an overlord, even if she’s a powerful one, how could she make Alastor one of the most powerful beings in hell? After finding out she owned him, I rewatched all their scenes together. She really seems to boss him around more than make friendly conversation, and a few times his smile even drops. And just imagine what a big twist that would be; Alastor must be owned by Lilith, or Roo, or some other big bad force that Charlie will have to face. But surely not Rosie, right? Not sweet, charming, charismatic little Rosie, the owner of a little flesh emporium? She couldn’t be the Root of all evil in disguise, could she? While it’s certainly not damning evidence, look at their designs, their color schemes. Notice any similarities?

[@H0T_T0_G00]

They also have similar smiles

[@giorgosthoma849]

we saw in helluva boss that if a human knows the symbol he can attempted to summon a hellborn demon that might hharcken back to an early info from the pilot that said that Rosie is not a sinner so she might be just a powerful demon (vassago of the ars goetia might or might not be an overlord of hell as well)

[@Stella-pv8vc]

Well actually, the guy in a song is Adam but only in Lutes imaginarion

[@DaRealImpostorYT]

Abel doesn’t sing Gravity with Lute, that’s Adam and Lute is just hallucinating seeing Adam

[@C.S.Raptor]

2:52 well yes. A majority of the Ars Goetia are Fallen Angels in Demonology, including Stolas, the Great Prince of Hell. Even his father Paimon belonged to either the Order of Dominion or the Order of Cherubim.

[@STKHub]

Yep, his point.

[@hpforever3563]

Now something I would like to see is Alastor and Roo being besties, because that's the exact inverse of what we were expecting to have. The popular theories were that either Roo or Lilith owns his soul and forced him to disappear for 7 years and presumably work for the hotel, with Rosie being the one to support him. With Rosie owning Alastor's soul and being behind his disappearance, why not have Roo be a friend of his, that can't really get too involved with the sinners, and thus, can't help him out of his deal, but is supportive in any way she can, maybe she gave him housing for those 7 years. Additionally, since the eyes on everything are often theorized to be Roo's way of seeing everything, that would explain why Alastor has one on his staff and why he's so stressed about it being broken, it was a present from an actual friend and a way for her to look out for him. Plus a cool plot for that episode could be Alastor going to Rosie to have his staff repaired, then the whole song and reveal happens, but when Rosie is out of sight and his staff is finally whole, he contacts Roo with it and goes to her for help with the actual huge injury he has, showcasing the actual difference in levels of trust he has between the two. Another thing I realized while re-watching Alastor's and Rosie's interactions, is just how obvious it seems in hindsight. She's not concerned at all about Alastor's disappearance, neither on the overlord meeting or in cannibal town, she scolds him and commands him to do things, but without the knowledge it just seems like a casual interaction between two friends, he follows her around and hands her things, for example her umbrella. Now my new headcanons are that when Alastor was describing Susan while looking at Rosie he was actually subtly insulting her and that the reason he immediately hates Lucifer is because both he and Rosie are people he can't control and seem to have a bit of a performance aesthetic, guy is projecting the things he would actually like to say to Rosie but can't. Rosie on the other hand could be feeling a bit guilty about the whole thing, judging from when she said "it can be difficult to admit to things you're not proud of, especially if those things hurt the ones you love".

[@LindaSchra-q2i]

About Rosie owns alastor, like you said other characters fitted more. I personally am kinda disappointed there, I really expected that Lilith, Eve or Zestial owned him.

[@heresheis2063]

Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers. This newly discovered relationship makes me wonder if Rosie is more than what is shown so far🤔

[@Liz-abeth]

Agreed. I preferred her as a good friend or ally. This just feels almost boring?

[@Fyrijou]

I still wish they dropped the whole Heaven plot and actually focused first and foremost about, y‘know, *Hell and the Hotel?*

[@kirbyl8310]

The gravity song is actualy between lute and the ghost of Adam that’s in her head adams son only shows up at the end of the song cause he heared lute loosing her mind! Yes abel does look like Adam but they have two different voice actors and if you look at Abel’s form when he wears the mask his horns are curled up like a rams horns while adams are straight back like blitz’s

[@axemiprozam6977]

I'll just say this: as long as Baxter doesn't come up in the leaked threads, for me all of this that was leaked IS NOT CANONICAL.

[@goldiefoggy]

Let it be. Let it be like this. I also did not see Lilith in those leaks so this is quite questionable. Vivziepop said on Instagram that these days have been devastating for her though.... so I just wish the best for her and her team

[@ahoy2010]

@@goldiefoggyi saw lilith in the leaks, she got a call from lute

[@ahoy2010]

Ima post it on my yt later today its 10min then ima post a full 25 min episode

[@EmiriSuki]

Lute wasn't singing with Able. She was hallucinating and she saw Adam so... Yeah, it was a duet with Adam and Lute

[@Thehelluva_boss]

Why would someone leak the work of an artist, not fair on the team 😢

[@DestaniePereira-ki1fo]

I have seen the leak for Pen's trail and....wow. The criteria to get into Heaven is FUCKING, EXTERAMLY strict.

[@viktoriat1386]

I agree that Rosie was literally one of the worst choices. I would even go as far as saying that even theories of Niffty owning Alastors soul made more sense

[@Nopeasaurus]

Nifty owning Alastor’s soul would be hilarious and actually engaging to watch. It would also be a nice subversion on the master/slave dynamic. But Rosie? It feels like Viziepop just wanted to add a nonsensical, shocking twist which ended up demonizing a likable character.

[@Voyagebreak]

It would be funny if somehow, someway, Adam's son is actually just Adam from the past 😂

[@Demonoicgamer666]

Rosie owning Alastors soul makes 0 sense she’s not more popular and not as important to the show as Lilith.

[@xSonamy]

Agree

[@QuartOfWater]

2:22 isnt it like an adam delusion or something from lute?

[@grimm8375]

Yea I believe so

[@kingvincent926]

Correction: It's not Abel who sang in Like Gravity It's adam except It's just Lute's hallucination so the whole song is just Lute singing alone At the end of the song, Abel even looked at her confused 😭

[@littlelionheart]

So I was previously a fan of Lilith or Roo owning Alastor's soul but I'm actually really happy with the choice to make it Rosie. Alastor is a fan favorite (for good reason) and sometimes the fandom tends to make him more powerful/important than he actually is. I love that this kind of brings him down a notch to a reasonable level. Of course lots of fans dislike this choice but it subverts our expectations in a way that I appreciate. It also makes Rosie far more interesting than being Alastor's bland good friend. She's a cunning girl boss who makes sound business decisions. Acquiring Alastor's soul being one of them. Alastor losing is soul to Rosie and being under her thumb makes me like him more because it shows a weakness in his character. He's a charming schemer but sometimes he miscalculates and his over confidence gets the better of him. His choice to piss of Lucifer in Hell's Greatest Dad song is a great example of this. Lucifer seems to have a lighthearted personality but he's the prince of pride and his patience was wearing thin. Mimzy showing up deescalated the situation but if she hadn't it wouldn't have looked good for Alastor. He seems to make severe misjudgements and I think this makes his character more interesting (and better) than if he was owned by someone like Roo or Lilith. What does he have to offer a big player like either of them? Lucifer has no use for Alastor either, he's more powerful and rebuilt the hotel better than it was before without Alastor's help. I'm really looking forward to seeing S2 and I just hope Alastor stans are open to how he will be portrayed. Sometimes this is the problem that happens when a fandom has been able to play with a character for so long without official content. The character can take on a whole other personality when fans fill in the gaps.

[@nuclearcatbaby1131]

He invented a way to communicate with Hell while he was still alive. I feel like that should be kind of a big deal.

[@nyrhine9664]

1:15 That is kinda dumb, Rosie is the last person you who think off. Also in my opinion there was no point to introduce in Abel just why? 4:09 I hope not, I'm just gonna say Katie has bad memory, also is Viv just done with the pilots of her shows? We wouldn't had the series without em

[@Idkpisyapopa]

Erm no its a good twist

[@nyrhine9664]

@ your right its a good twist but ya can’t say it doesn’t kill the vibe of Al being a strong overlord

[@heresheis2063]

Well no one definitely expected THAT twist. Though now that i think about it, it's not that unbelievable judging by their interactions but it would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown.Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul AT FIRST. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.

[@heresheis2063]

​@@nyrhine9664i suppose, that twist was DEFINITELY unexpected. It would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown so far. And there's still the seven year absence of him and Lilith. That couldn't be a coincidence, right?

[@Pomeranian690]

​​@@nyrhine9664 Alastor still is the stronger than Rosie just he did deal with Rosie.

[@ilovemana143]

Maybe Rosie is Roo???? Hmmm...???? 🧐 And what is the deal about Alastor and Lilith absent for seven years???

[@PRISMSHOWERS_P]

That is what I thought too! Roo is a shape shifter

[@goldiefoggy]

Vivziepop said no character will be disguised as another so they are different characters.

[@schizobit3s]

damn.. i feel bad for viv and her team, I'm sure they worked hard and feel terrible right now

[@heresheis2063]

Spoilers and leaks are terrible. I hope everything turns out well for them.

[@kevincurran9975]

One thing, i feel as if mimzy has a hidden role with an episode that will still revolve around rosie being the controller as mimzy knows one half of alastors story, its more likely she was a friend of alastor into control, but she had no care as she doesnt overreacts dire situations and makes it seem delusional and always has more care of alastor protecting her because hes powerful which may also conclude to mimzy also learning some of alastors story from rosie

[@Shyguycat]

Not sure if anyone has said it yet, but I remember watching a Q&A with Hazbin Hotel Voice Actors. In this video, the voice actor for Adam/ Sir Pentious says "Well we have to say alot of messed up shit. One of the lines I had to say is 'I f-ed your mother!'" While this could be in Sir Pentious' role, I doubt that he'd ever get that lucky. If this is true, this would mean that he is speaking for Adam, who died as well. This meaning he will come back in season two and say that line to Charlie, as it's technically true that he boinked her mother (Lilith). I'm just more curious to see if Adam will become good and Lilith/ Lute will become more evil and Lute will swap sides and thats how they figure out the sinners can be redemmed issue.

[@Tooboredtomakeoghandle]

The Alastor and Rosie twist definitely unexpected. They don't give off that vibe of "I own you" relationship

[@hex-i4q]

Alastor soul is owned a Rosie lute has a duet with adam we see alastor sell his soul to Rosie in a flash back sera has regrets on killing sinners abel is the leader the angel army

[@si_ns]

Rosie owning his soul was the biggest plot

[@fantasy-writing-v5z]

Technically Lute has a duet with her hallucination with Adam And I believe the one of Rosie owning Al is a deep fake made by Vivian herself in case these leaks did happen

[@si_ns]

@@fantasy-writing-v5z I really hope its fake.

[@si_ns]

@@Not_SageRBX Yeah 😭

[@supremegod0328]

@@fantasy-writing-v5z but why would they bother animating it, making a whole song with fully developed lyrics, and voice act it, just for it to be a deep fake

[@zonnodon163]

Very good videos, despites the small errors you made. And the fact that Rosie owns the soul is kinda lame. Especially without seeing her fight and all, to prove her worth.

[@animehypehouse5546]

I didn’t have all the info while making this sadly

[@keithkogane-yk4qw]

I don’t really like Rosie being the one who owns alastor

[@cell0401]

I didn't see a lot of the leaks, but if I remember correctly, then "Adam's son" that sings with lute is actually Adam... to quote Lucifer: "You... you got something sticking out of your... your thing there..."

[@Nina32563]

In the dong it's actually not Adam's son but an hallucination of Lute. It's supposed to be Adam. Abel is shown after the song

[@ziriebenton6659]

Spoiler: The archangel Sera sings with is called the Speaker of God. Seems like she’s basically God’s representative because Sera confesses her sin to her. Also, since Abel has been shown then I’m expecting Cain to appear as well. Maybe a cameo or he’ll show up in Season 3.

[@goldiefoggy]

So, she was basically talking to... God?

[@ziriebenton6659]

@@goldiefoggy Not exactly, it seems. Based on the name, God does exist in this universe and assigned that angel to speak in his place at court. You know, as representatives do.

[@KL8T0N_SLU2HIE]

Rosie could possibly have a darker side to her that is what Alastor fears, or maybe she only owns half of his soul and Alastor only reports to Rosie because of how scared he is of his owner.

[@ΣΟΥΠΡΕΜΟ]

That isn't Adam son, adam's son is other, that only is like a memory of Adam from Lute, the Adam son is call Abel and apears in the Sir pentious judgment

[@HHthebestshowever928]

Great video except, Adam was the one singing with Lute. It was a hallucination in Lute’s head but it was Adam not Abel.

[@LadyLeomon]

While I’d like something to get psyched over, the angelic Goetia thing isn’t exactly new. During the Trial in Heaven if you look in the background you can see a mural of a bird-looking Angel/Seraphim, who I thought looked a lot like Stella but after seeing Sera’s true form I think it’s meant to be her

[@Mazanity]

Lute was just hallucinating Adam not Abel.

[@Khaloofidino]

Al being owned by Rosie is just fake no way Rosie owns Alastor I’m 100% sure that Lilith owns him.

[@Spiritlikes99]

Also another leak. Sir pentious was in hell because he watched someone get killed and didn't do nothing about it, he kenw the killer but didn't do nothing. Honestly kinda mid

[@Karlos1234ify]

The killer was Jack the Ripper. Keep in mind, in Helluva Boss. A camp counselor witnessed a drug deal go down at his camp, got killed & sent to hell. So apparently witnessing a crime, gets you sent to hell

[@lareinachrystel4993]

​@@Karlos1234ifyjack the ripper? Broo we just got a spezial guest from black clover

[@Cat888-qc2fs]

​@@Karlos1234ify I think people get sent to he'll because they didn't do anything to help, not because they witnessed crimes

[@Karlos1234ify]

@@Cat888-qc2fs True enough.

[@giorgosthoma849]

@@Karlos1234ify I think its more like wintessing a crime and staying silent about it when you could have done something about it sents you to hell. don't quote me but I think that belongs under the sin of sloth

[@kenzdrawsstuff]

I wanna add a few things; So first off, the duet isn’t with Adam’s son (Abel) and Lute, it’s mainly Lute’s song that included some hallucinations of Adam. Abel is NOT like Adam, he seems to be more shy and friendly though we don’t know a lot about his character or motives. He is very smiley and happy, though, so he might not necessarily be a villain. Lute didn’t take over the exorcists, it was decided that Abel would be the one to take over since he was adam’s son. Almost the entirety of episode 2 is based in heaven, the majority is in a council scene where it seems Lute and Sera are not trusting of Pentious. The messenger of god, whom seems to be a large female bird entity is very supporting of Pentious, so she and Emily convince him to tell his backstory. Pentious went to hell because he witnessed a serial killer murder a girl he had been admiring and he didn’t do anything about it, and mentioned how he sacrificed himself for Cherri and his friends against Adam, and Sera seems to understand on why he woke up in heaven: because he made up for what he did to get into hell in the first place. Sera finally trusts in Pentious and so does the rest of Heaven’s council, and she allows Emily to show him around the castle and sing a song to him about why Heaven is amazing. Lute is extremely pissed off and refuses to back down against Sera, which leads to an argument between the two. Then Lute begins her song a few moments later. For the details regarding Rosie and Alastor, Alastor was a serial killer and cannibal back in the early 1900s and knew he was going to hell, so he was able to talk with Rosie through some sort of ritual. He made a deal with Rosie ensuring that he would be the most powerful overlord in hell in exchange for his soul. He died the next day after being mistaken for a deer and shot in the head. No Sinner should be able to reach the living world, so that means Rosie is hellborn. That used to be canon back a few years ago, so it’s possible that Viv brought that detail back. There could also be a chance that Rosie isn’t who she says she is, and could possibly be someone powerful like Roo, since she was able to get Alastor so powerful so quickly. She likes to hold the fact that she owns his soul above Alastor’s head. When he came to demand a fix for his staff, the two share a song called “don’t you forget.” The song is posted somewhere on KZbin. A few ref sheets were posted as well, such as Pentious’s human form, a few of Alastor’s demonic forms, his human form, and one form with a vox-like cloth over his mouth, implying that he was taken hostage by Vox or the Vees at some point during the show. That’s all!

[@osky529]

Since were all sharing spoilers Rosie is actually lilith keeping a watchful eye over charlie from afar Thats why alastor showed up at the hotel thats why alastor needed the deal with charlie thats why she gave charlie her army of cannibals Lilith in heaven is actually ROO the root of evil and eve (there the same person)

[@shivanSpS]

Personally i didnt like to see Alastor like that, it kinda destroys the character.

[@heresheis2063]

Why is that?

[@ahoy2010]

Oh ur gonna have a field day when he swears at lucifer

[@shivanSpS]

@@heresheis2063 I mean its very clear to me that Rosie = Roo, but still, the Alastor i saw in the leaks was petty much the opposite of what we saw in the first season... i mean come on, he cant even fix his staff on his own now...

[@CaE722]

I had a feeling rosie was hiding smth but definitely didn't expect that, honestly im excited bc i never liked the roo or lilith theories and rosie would be a crazy af plot twist, making her even more loveable

[@ShadowGaming42069]

Paimon is said to be a fallen angel so it would appear that Stolas MAY have the blood of a fallen angel similar to Charlotte.

[@muchiros_hair]

I think they should have done Lilith And question is there any spoilers on charlies power? I really wanna see her growth

[@Hearts4young-il]

Ugh now im scared when season two comes out theres gonna be so much more haters and im scared of getting harassed on tiktok

[@STKHub]

Just block them. You'll be good. Trust.

[@Hearts4young-il]

​@@STKHub still it's scaryy

[@a1saiyan382]

Spoiler warning Alastor is actually the strongest overlord in hell,he is on a leash to Rosie cuz he made a deal with her so he can become the strongest sinner in hell,He is technically stronger than her too but can't do anything to her cuz of the leash,if he is off it he can beat her easily cuz she is below 2-3 overlords

[@user-egghead098]

Actually that's not entirely true, he's the strongest sinner in hell yes (according to Rosie) but Rosie isn't a sinner she wasn't human first. Notice they said specifically "sinner" and not "overlord". Rosie could very well be far more powerful than alastor. It wouldn't make sense Rosie just somehow plucks up power she doesn't have to make alastor more powerful than her.

[@a1saiyan382]

@user-egghead098 she could have given most of her power to him,and as Alastor said in the finale he said that off the leash he will pull all the strings

[@user-egghead098]

@@a1saiyan382 Well assuming their contract becomes null it also means he wouldn't get power from her anymore, unless the contract changes rather than ceasing

[@a1saiyan382]

@@user-egghead098 she already gave him enough power

[@jhuh24]

Who is Rosie really is the question. You think she is roo.

[@stwgord]

Lute doesn’t sing with Adam, she sings with a hallucination of him. There is another leak where it is mentioned that it is Adam, which directly states that he’s just in her head, and he also phases through objects throughout the song. Imo its pretty obvious that its Adam even without the other leak 😭

[@25thPoizen]

sir pentious goated, and im not too against the alastor rosie relationship, also the as goeisha stocks through the roof!!

[@goldiefoggy]

Well I was shocked to see Sir Pentious with his Egg Bois in Heaven! Yes, some of them got in

[@moonshelter3448]

Dude omg Lute was singing with Adam she imagined not Abel he was just peeping!

[@pwsies]

Major Spoiler Warning. - - - - According to a Leak, Lilith is disguised as Rosie.

[@shadowspringtrap3122]

No way... that's crazy but interesting

[@TheStarzAlien]

The lute song was with Adam just he’s a hallogram

[@MorschKebab]

I think the only exeptable spoiler is that season 2 has 10 episodes

[@x_4759]

Abel is basically pacifist adam

[@duartetavares329]

Eh.... seriously? Rosie? Ugh... honestly kinda lame. I mean... how? Why? Takes away the whole overpowered overlord persona of alastor, hust so that another overlord owna him.

[@cyrry]

2:39 wait, they confirmed that season 2 would only have 8 episodes tho?

[@If_only_i_cared]

Fire as usual💯

[@ASTARAITH]

Im calling it Roo is Rosie Remember me

[@Terastas]

Okay, I'm going to do the whole spoilers behind the tab thing as I discuss these. . . . . Alastor is under contract... With Rosie?! Pfft! I love that! Everybody assumed it was Lilith, but having it be Rosie means it runs even deeper than that. It also explains how it is that Husk even knew that: Because Alastor has been under contract for as long as Husk has known him. But it also makes it that much more intriguing that Alastor appeared at the Hazbin Hotel in Season 1, which he did right after Charlie called Lilith. This might imply that Rosie has a connection to Lilith, or that Alastor explicitly went to the Hotel as part of a plot to get out of his contract. So if that Russian hacker was hoping to ruin Hazbin Hotel, he just did the exact opposite for me. Not sure how I feel about Adam having a son. That sounds like a cheap way to just throw in another villain. I figured Sera and Emily would fight over Pentious, but I figured it would be about whether or not to confirm that he had entered Heaven, with Sera arguing that they should keep it a secret until things calmed down and/or they had reliable information, not that he should be sent back to Hell even though he's clearly taken on an angelic form. Not even remotely surprised to hear they're going to ad an archangel to the mix. The archangels are among the most well-known in Biblical mythology, and more than that, were essentially described as supposed to be doing what the exorcist angels were doing. I already predicted they would touch on this, and my expectation was that they would introduce the archangels as defenders of Heaven, and that at least one of them (Michael or Gabriel being the two most famous) would show a lot of contempt for the exorcists, would have no sympathy for Adam, and would point out that it's entirely the fault of the exorcists that Hell is now armed with angelic steel and has any capacity to kill angels at all now.

[@the_real_tabby]

So they should have remade the pilot and made it episode 1 and maybe 2 if needed. as it the show is reliant on people having watched it but because it is partly uncanon.

[@locosword3985]

I feel like we’re gonna get way more information about Alastor and Rosie, it makes their dynamic a little more interesting since it makes a lot of Alastor scenes look way more like he’s a little thankful but still very resentful of Rosie.

[@ATI110]

the adam ,,son" is an adam hologram

[@Morningstar_fan]

They should of had lillith to have alastor soul

[@Evangeline-j8h]

Yeah, Adam is a ghost. But I think it would be awkward that he was just a hallucination, maybe it's he's soul stuck up there because he has not crushed the hazbin hotel and there is a belief that when someone dies but has not accomplished something that was an urge to them they stay stuck as a ghost until they accomplish it.

[@mariajosecabrera1784]

2:17 he doesn't act nothing like Adam

[@sonicspeedproductions2.04]

There is no season 2 episode 10 there are 8 episodes it was confirmed and Lute was singing with Adam's hallucination not his son. Get your facts right

[@STKHub]

The leakers said it was 10 and people claimed it was Adam's son. What's your source?

[@Alastordadeer]

I couldn’t help myself in watching so spoilers: Honestly it’s hard to tell if Alastor isn’t stronger and the only thing keeping him from being above her, is the string she has on him and his soul. After all she said he’d be THE strongest sinner and they succeeded because he was erasing the real big shot overlords, ever since he spawned in as a sinner at the time before ascending to being one himself. So it’s hard to tell if he wouldn’t be stronger than Rosie if he could resist (which he can’t due to her owning his soul)

[@animehypehouse5546]

She does directly say “you are the strongest sinner” so realistically, he should still be over the overlords

[@FalynnDumas]

It was a spng beetween lute and adam actually. Adam is a ghost

[@davidprogamer2703]

Personal opinions about these leaks: -The Alastor and Rosie thing? Cut it or ReWork it completely. As it sstands as of now, it sounds really bad and counterproductive. Also, if it happens, people will yell that it is wasted potential. -Adam's Son? Is it Abel or Cain? Why not make an UNIQUE Design and Personality for him? Heck, why not use one of Adam's Daughters that he had in the Bible? -The Archangels resembling the Goetias? Split on this one. One one hand, it's nothing too crazy. On the other, would like some variety. (Also, I'm starting to suspect that Vivzie might be a furry. just a tad bit)

[@LuminocityyEdits]

I definitely agree on the Alastor Rosie thing. It just wouldn't make sense...

[@heresheis2063]

​@@LuminocityyEditsi disagree but i understand why you think so. The most popular theory it that it's Lilith or Roo but that's too predictable and predictable is boring. If you really pay attention to their interactions and words, though REALLY subtle, the hints are there. Though this newly found discovery suggests Rosie is more than what is shown so far. If anything, this only raises more questions. Hardly anyone would have expected this twist. There are those who think it's Niffty which is more ridiculous. We may know who owns Alastor's soul but i still want to know the story behind this.

[@Liadowexists]

Roise being alastors owner is completely ruining any potential for a more interesting character to be naturally introduced like roo. Honestly that just ruins her character dang, after s2 I'm dropping this shit writing

[@brokkolievogorogdinnye8714]

Shit writing, jeez, just because you don't like something?

[@grayyy_cloud]

MAYBE rosie is roo? Who knows what roo is capeble of yk?

[@melchiorsmokes]

s1 already has shit writing, but i would wait until s2 drops and see what it's like, leaks aren't reliable for what it's really going to look like

[@Epostdronten.]

I think Rosie owning Alastors soul is wierd but it could be that she just owns his soul and the deal he sings about might be some other deal that someone like Lilith ( idk if it’s her specificly ) probably so he could have more power. It kinda explains why Rosie asks Alastor where he had been even tho she owns his soul. Also just thought of, that’s probably why he smiles all the time bc Rosie I guess wanted him to bc she aswell smiles alot.

[@bluneko9183]

I hope they rethink about human Alastor and Rosie relationship, especially because Alastor is a creole/black man. Watch a black man, written as violent, but then come a white victorian woman that enslaved him and thaught him manners, idk, I smell racism here.

[@БелаяВорона-б6й]

There was no racism in 1920?

[@bluneko9183]

@БелаяВорона-б6й I mean the story leaked, written as it is, it sounds very racism to me. If I write a story about a black person that is violent and then a white person restrain mentioned person, do you not find it very racist? Black people suffer from horrible prejudices, such ad being labeled as uneducated or more. What the autor made here is not a denounce, because it seems Rosie did well to restrain Alastor. I really hope they will change that because it is a very low blow.

[@БелаяВорона-б6й]

@@bluneko9183 we talking about black man who lived in 1920. Your denile of racism in early 20th cent. is absurd

[@БелаяВорона-б6й]

@@bluneko9183 also we talking about Hell

[@bluneko9183]

@@БелаяВорона-б6й I'm sorry really but if you don't want to understand what I wrote is not my problem.

[@25thPoizen]

RUSSIAN LEAKERS FEEDING FAMILIES

[@Drawing_ghosts]

I really think that viv needs to get some serious firewall upgrades for her content bc of how much has gotten leaked

[@Indie973]

Jokes on the hacker, by messing with us he’s going to get BURNED AT THE STAKE!!!!!!!

[@animehypehouse5546]

I definitely think physically posting episodes and stuff is insane 😅

[@emila732]

And people were so fixated about Lilith and Alastor 😂

[@Christianityg2002]

You made a few mistakes about the leaks obviously spoilers of course so if anyone doesn’t want to see the corrections don’t continue reading. Alright if you are here then you want to know so to start off first the one who is singing with lute in the gravity song is not Adam’s son it’s actually Adam himself (sort of). Adam’s return in season 2 is actually a hallucination in Lute’s head before the song begins someone on TikTok uploaded the whole scene showing that Lute is wondering if Adam knew she loved him but Adam responds saying and I quote “bleep if I know I only know what you know” meaning that this is kinda like the Joker hallucinations in Batman Arkham Knight. Now as for the scene with sera I don’t think that’s meant to be a goetia I think that’s meant to represent the Holy Spirit because I saw the leak and a previous one which I’ll talk about later. It looks like a dove and to anyone that reads the Bible in it, it says the Holy Spirit takes the form of a beautiful white dove one of the reasons why I believe it’s the Holy Spirit is because during the court scene discussing pentious fate I don’t think it’s just about pentious I think it’s also discussing the future of the extermination but during the scene this dove like entity stands in the center of the room and is a giant I do think the archangels will be a part in season 2 but as for this being seen In the court and sera’s duet it’s definitely gotta be someone who is higher than the seraphim’s, archangels, and elders it’s gotta be the third of the holy trinity which of course is The Holy Spirit

[@LeaLoveElleJohnson]

Baxter's hat is the same as Sir Pentious' hat

[@kotoriwisp]

Pretty positive that Rosie is Roo... I think it would make alot of sense.

[@ShadowGaming42069]

Rosie acted as a motherly figure for Charlotte and encouraged her to appeal to the audience with SONG like how Lilith did after she and Lucifer fell. So Rosie HAS to be a disguise for Lilith and the one on the beach could be Eve or Roo.

[@caseydreamuslpsandmore2582]

Adam has three sons. Cain, Abel and Seth. Seth is the youngest son. Abel is the son that died and the middle child. Cain is the oldest son. Cain killed his own brother but I think he will want to make amends with his brother, Abel. Seth never knew both of them. Seth could possibly be the one that just like Adam. If Cain wants to make amends would he go around and kill everyone? The answer is No. Here is one question: how did Adam became the first human soul in heaven? Abel was the first one to die. Abel could have chosen between Hell and Heaven. Abel must have chosen Hell. Did Cain ever wanted to kill his own brother? No he never wanted to kill his own brother. I don't think Cain will kill again. So Cain and Abel are out of the picture on this one. Seth is the obvious answer but the obvious answer is never the correct answer. Edit: or it was just Adam's spirit.

[@katrinaandherprojects243]

Well, rosie owning his soul is kind of disappointing.....

[@AlexanderEnglish-h4h]

Im honestly just happy they didnt leak anything about lilith, thats the character I'm honestly excited to see on screen.