How War Within Professions Could Fix Dragonflight's Mistakes and Secret Remix Mog! Saturday WoW News

[@joshcal7370]

Dragonflight was the first time I didn’t max out my professions. The new system is needlessly complicated without anymore reward. Having different levels of materials, as well as having to get gear, all to craft the same things that are barely profitable, isn’t fun or worthwhile. If they’re going to make it this complicated, they should at least make the crafted gear more reliable and on par with the highest gear you can get otherwise.

[@traceyjadeboyer5181]

I agree 100%.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

Absolutely. As far as I know, in my guild, I'm the ONLY ONE with 2 maxed (knowledge/skill/equipment) professions. So many people just won't TOUCH it. It's too complicated, too much gold/time needed to be invested. It's not just bad for people doing professions, but people LOOKING for good professionals to do rework or make gear. I WANT to get better equipment for my DH's professions, but have a hard time finding people to make it. I wish they would simplify it rather than adding more complexity (MORE RARE REAGENTS????? NO THANK YOU!) I DO like the idea of knowledge catch up, but . . . I don't understand why they say they'll have it at the BEGINNING when, other than a few rep vendors and such, as far as I know they don't even have it AT ALL in DF.

[@jjamison470]

Lol the crafted gear has been stronger this xpac than it ever has. It is absolutely "on par"

[@mikev-08]

Agreed, huge time gate for the professions, tons of quests, 3 tiers of materials, unwieldy crafting orders and needlessly complex system. I am not sure why they did this. On top of that, there is no catch-up mechanic for the knowledge levels. At least they are adding a built-in catch-up mechanic for knowledge levels. *shrugs*

[@jaklg7905]

Hi Hazel. I have been playing WOW nonstop since 2007. What I don't like about the professions now is that many of the recipes require sparks. That severely limits not only leveling up, but being able to make the full set of gear. Not to mention that it is overly complicated for many, including the casual player. You used to be able to craft gear that was relevant to you as you leveled up and was usable. Now, by the time that you get enough mats/sparks to make something, you already have better gear from other sources. The professions now favor the "professional player" types of players and leaves the rest of us behind.

[@nordrassil1]

They did put out a poll about professions recently and that was my biggest gripe too - getting to 100 is severely limited by sparks and crafting SEVERAL VERY EXPENSIVE things, especially on tailoring and such.

[@ShadowsOfThePast]

Also getting some specific designs/patterns etc is too RNG/expensive.. like the Lariat for example in DF.. and that just sucks if everyone wants THAT neck and you have maxed JC but haven't got the design.

[@Anunnaki4238]

Exactly and you can’t even use crafting orders for that unless YOU have the materials. I wish you could just pay the difference cus I want to get craft orders so I don’t have to get the fucking materials lol. Also, it’s annoying cuz it feels like for example, with mining. All the talent boosts are revolved around draconium or severite ore but most the recipes I need don’t require ANY or just a few. Most of them require more rare materials which is fine but unless you happened to max out whichever specific talent tree prof helped then it doesn’t do much. It sucks too the sparks just become useless, there’s not a way to upgrade or anything and in my experience they never go up by enough that justifies me spending on getting the materials

[@Anunnaki4238]

Exactly and you can’t even use crafting orders for that unless YOU have the materials. I wish you could just pay the difference cus I want to get craft orders so I don’t have to get the fucking materials lol. Also, it’s annoying cuz it feels like for example, with mining. All the talent boosts are revolved around draconium or severite ore but most the recipes I need don’t require ANY or just a few. Most of them require more rare materials which is fine but unless you happened to max out whichever specific talent tree prof helped then it doesn’t do much. It sucks too the sparks just become useless, there’s not a way to upgrade or anything and in my experience they never go up by enough that justifies me spending on getting the materials CV

[@michaelfitzsimmons8393]

It wouldn't be so bad if the sparks weren't soulbound. If you could trade them to your alts, it would've been much nicer. Case in point: my herb/alch toon has a bunch of sparks but barely uses them because she can only craft alchemist stones to. Would've been better to transfer them to a toon who could actually use them.

[@acehex2211]

Problems w/ DF crafting: -Starting late means being behind forever -System is confusing and it’s literally possible to SOFTLOCK urself. I did this twice on an alt -Quality ranking take up x3 the space, barely affect it, and stupidly enough, for things like vendors you actually only want Q2 not Q3 for buying transmogs and the like -Everything needs sparks which makes it harder to craft and catch up as well -artisan mettle is divided extremely unfairly and soul bound. I have over 6000 on herbalist and have no use for it

[@EdetaKudou]

can you please explain how you softlocked yourself? Im genuinely curious

[@acehex2211]

​@@EdetaKudou Basically, I wasn't careful in how I distributed knowledge points. Got to a place in jewelcrafting where the only way to level up was using recipes from a specialization I couldn't unlock until I leveled up. Kinda a catch-22. Only way around it was grinding 45 more knowledge points to unlock a sub-specialization that gave me a single recipe with a two day cool down. The workaround was just a lot more time and effort than if I'd understood the specing system.

[@cadencenavigator958]

@@acehex2211 I don't think that's a "you didn't understand the system," I think that's a "the system is badly done," given that I don't think you can in game check what recipes are gated behind specializations. That's on them.

[@dododog5002]

@@cadencenavigator958 true

[@StarJar1996]

Ditto on the softlocking, i had a really hard time for a while actually getting past like 90ish blacksmithing without either insane grind/waiting for weekly stuff/doing an unreasonable amount of research. It used to be a very easy progression to max level crafting, you make the stuff you have until you unlock new stuff, and then once you're max level you go unlock the rare recipes and have to hunt for the mats, but this time around i was struggling to even hit max crafting level on my characters.

[@Thewarmhoney]

OMG the way your cat is perched on the arm rest is so cute!

[@nikushim6665]

DF's profession issues were simple fixes that never got addressed. Public work orders sucked, all they had to do was give the same options available to private orders. Other issues were recipes, such as Elemental Lariat which became near impossible to obtain as content became dated creating server monopolies. Also the lack of catchup mechanics behind trade skill talent points, there was also the issue of certain talents being required for easy skill progression early on, which caused alot of people to semi softlock the grind accidentally.

[@lilagtook]

One additional issue is the buildup of Mettle for professions that don’t consume it. My alchemist has stacks of it.

[@scorpogee6280]

Also BOP! Why bother crafting something we can't sell to other players on the AH. Get rid of those and give us something that is almost as good is my thinking.

[@ShadowsOfThePast]

All of what's been said here is so true. Couldn't have said it better myself. It amazes me why they didn't bother to fix DF crafting to be a lot better with some simple fixes as mentioned..

[@Anunnaki4238]

@@lilagtooktrue, or like you should be able to use your own sparks or pay difference if you don’t have ALL the reagents. Like I wanted to craft gear for an alt but nope I can’t even use sparks on my main to help it even if those sparks are from previous seasons. Or like I wanna craft a gear piece but don’t have all the materials but I wouldn’t NEED a crafting order if I already had all the stuff. Which now I get stuck with random sparks or splinters cuz the flightstones cost a shit ton. And yeah the artisan mettle they give it to you as if it’s useful but I have thousands and it doesn’t really do shit. The places you can turn them in dont have enough stuff to warrant why we get so much.

[@Anunnaki4238]

@@scorpogee6280right? Especially because it feels insulting like I can make a ton of armor for people who need it or alts but NOPE can’t sell it and armor I get from raids, mythics etc is better so why would I waste money & time to make something I’ll keep for maybe an hour that’s not upgradable and can’t give away?

[@theR1ch]

For the Remix unique Weapon transmogs, Wowhead has an article showing off what zones drop what. There's some unused and gorgeous weapons like the Jinyu Flamberge or the Wallwatcher 2h Axes the Shado Pan use. Taoshi's Sais are in multiple colors, etc too. The article is called "Weapon Transmogs Exclusive to MoP Remix - Farming Guide and Zone Drops". Had been looking all week for a nice drop-list instead of looking at each item individually.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

Since very late Vanilla, when I started playing, one of the things I got into quite a bit was PROFESSIONS. I found that it was nice to be able to make not only my own things, but stuff for friends (and later, guildies). While professions have always had some issues, I began to see that as they added more and more complexity, it became less fun. The level system in Legion was annoying, the stupid amount of BoP items in BFA (not allowing NON-RAIDING toons to make things, even if a main non-crafter raided a LOT) which COULD have been fixed with BoA mats. The dumb legendary system in SL (you can't even DISENCHANT the lower items you NEED to make to LEARN next higher level, and unless you got into it early, you couldn't even GIVE THEM AWAY). BUT late SL non-Legendary crafting was pretty great, as was the WoD system of very useful and upgradeable gear - though if they had missives for stats, it would have been pretty near perfect. So, now we come to Dragonflight. There is so much wrong with the profession system right now. It's so convoluted that MOST people I know have not only NOT maxed it (with the exception of SKILL for gatherers) but have completely lost interest. It's overly complicated, introducing a bunch of brand new STATS (especially if you are both gathering AND crafting - you need to know both), but the huge knowledge system, with very little EXTRA ways to get it, tying the work order to advancement (work order should have simply been an convenient way for people to get stuff made, and should simply have been a part of the AH system, allowing people to put in work orders). Even when you MAX both skill and knowledge, if you don't have THE BEST equipment, you will NOT be able to make the best stuff. And as is with the history of WoW, MOST people WILL want the BEST STUFF. The public work order is VERY limited, not allowing you to do rework, not able to put in quality as a condition, and not making it easy for CRAFTERS to see work orders when they are up. Also, you can't even condition the BEST quality because even if the crafter CAN make it, it won't allow them to take it. Also, you should be able to see (WITHOUT having the mats) what adding mats (such as crests, sparks, missives) whether or not you'll be able to succeed in making top quality items. In fact, you should be able to see it on professionals (or at the VERY LEAST, in the guild roster, under professions). Also, METTLE should have been BoA. To have one toon need it quite a lot (Tailor/Enchanter) and another hardly EVER need it (herbalist/skinner) is stupid. I play both toons. I should be able to use whatever my toon gets, no matter which one. (HOPEFULLY this is fixed with warbands). This is also a pretty awful system for people who want to just make things for their GUILD and put them in the bank, as I used to do. While I hated the Legendary system in SL, I really liked the general crafting once we got into Zereth Mortis. For me to make people some gear (say, they hit 60, or just got back into the game), without sparks or crests, or really, anything from the recipient, I was able to craft things for them. I put the embellishments in the bank so if any crafter wanted to make things not only for themselves, but for other guild members, they could. I also dislike having to get ODD FACTION reputation up. I really just wanted the Frozen Spellthread, but wasn't able to always find groups for Cobalt Assembly and ended up either soloing it or trying to find another person there, so we could kill things faster. Also, too many of the recipes for items in demand are WORLD DROPS. I feel like the whole system was created to get people to buy gold, to get their crafting up ASAP, buy rare recipes from the AH all to get ahead. Very much sucks for people who simply want to be able to provide for themselves, their alts, friends and guild, with gear or consumables. At one time, the guild used to be able to afford to give people mats to level, especially when only SKILL was needed. And then we'd provide mats, and then everyone in the guild would have access to things like cut gems, pots, enchants. (Most enchants, a spellthread and bags are able to be provided since I actually took the time and energy to level my tailoring and enchanting - no one else in the guild finds it fun - just confusing, and have mostly given up on it). Also, it's SEASON 4. For heaven's sake, just give everyone a huge knowledge catch up already!!! The people who got there ahead of everyone else already made a bunch of gold. Let alts, latecomers, and those who FINALLY figured out somewhat, how the profession works, get into it. (Also, having the professions explained when people are NOWHERE NEAR ready to use it is stupid. I didn't remember anything about illustrious insights, etc., when I actually NEEDED that information - there was just SOO MUCH to try to understand. That information should have come when had a certain amount of knowledge and skill). Even if they are easing up on certain things, adding ANOTHER LAYER of difficulty (even RARER items - I've spent SO MUCH DAMN GOLD on things like Awakened items. I've NEVER had to spend this much gold on either consumables OR material as I have in this expansion, unless you count the ridiculous amount I spent being able to make ONE piece of Legendary gear at max, in SL, only to rarely use it) that I don't think it'll make profession fun or compelling for ANYONE who didn't get into it in Dragonflight.

[@Exocraze]

Based on these comments, I guess I'm in the minority but I absolutely love what professions are now. I hope they're able to nail down the importance of all qualities of materials so that things like gathering don't die immediately, but I think the new professions are a great baseline that could be truly amazing after a few more iterations. It seems like a lot of people here just decided "this is complicated" from the jump and never actually interacted with the system even though it's really not that bad and is pretty intuitive once you start interacting with it. They managed to make crafted gear important and relevant throughout the entire expansion, and I think that was the main goal. I make plenty of gold through crafting to this day. Just gotta socialize a bit.

[@marycharlesworth9694]

While at the start of dragon flight, the new profession system was a real headache, once I ( eventually ) had it worked out, I've been really enjoying it. Getting all the talent specialization trees maxed out does take a lot of time and commitment but for me is worth it and satisfying.

[@ClaireGreen-wd2gm]

I've been reading that many people have never seen one public work order the entire xpac and had to have alts put in orders to complete quests

[@Exocraze]

@@ClaireGreen-wd2gm This very well could be an issue on smaller servers. I play on Stormrage-US so while they’re not frequently posted, they do get posted. That being said, I get most of my orders through trade chat.

[@BaconLordBear]

Honestly what dragonflight did with professions and materials has made me care less about professions as a whole. Carrying around an insane amount of different quality materials is just not worth it at all, and extremely unfun if you're at any point fallen behind on profession points.

[@Anunnaki4238]

Yeah and even just gathering you don’t make much unless you’re getting the super rare materials which is fine but then yeah you’ve got fucking stacks of stuff that sells for almost nothing and doesn’t really even have use after a certain level. Like my blacksmith has so much severite & draconium ore but the things I ACTUALLY need to craft need such a small amount of the common shit but require insane amounts of expensive reagents. Plus the whole craft orders thing just sucks. Like I wish you could have someone craft and instead of giving them the regaents just give them the money to buy it.

[@ShadowsOfThePast]

Y they fumbled the catch-up so badly in DF I don't even understand how they managed to do that.. Also it felt/feels like too long of a grind to get profession maxed out.

[@shifts-in-light]

agreed -- it's frustrating bc i used to like leveling professions. the old system felt so straight forward, it wasn't confusing on how to get things at guaranteed max quality. I used to level multiple professions, sometimes even duplicate ones, across my main+alts, but with DF -- once i started falling behind a little, there was no catching up -- and i ultimately gave up on it all. on top of how annoying the work order system is, I can't say i find professions satisfying or fun anymore. I miss the old system :(

[@everythinggaming643]

I agree, this new rabid hole along side ton of "Talent Points", Quality and "Proc Crafting" is just stupid, especially with the whole insane upgrade system... so you get the piece you needed-....but wait now you can upgraded 8 times..

[@rohyourboat]

The fact there was no catch up mechanic, and the weekly cap on knowledge point forced you to farm random drops from random mobs around the world every week was just INCREDIBLY stupid. If you fell behind at any point with knowledge it was just pointless to do crafting at all.

[@NighDarke]

DF killed my interest in professions. They made it overly complicated, it wasn't worth the time. I switched my guys to gathering and sold everything.

[@Maybeabandaid9]

Listening to you while I'm cleaning the house is a vibe.

[@josephbegley9148]

The Remix weapon appearances exclusive to LFR are the hardest to earn, from my experience. LFR only drops one piece of gear (as opposed to Normal, Heroic, and Mythic which drop two pieces); and not only are multiple tier sets on the loot table, but also the original weapon appearances from MoP raids.

[@Dosukuva]

LFR doesn't have a loot lockout so you can spam LFR to get the appearances, would recommend Halls of flesh shaping for ToT and Downfall for SoO

[@_Turbocat777]

I don't understand why there isn't a pet vendor for all of the MoP pets like the mounts and toys. p.s. It would be nice if bronze used for gear upgrades could be refunded. so I could upgrade now then scrap it at the end and buy what I wanted instead of having to choose....

[@TE-eq1dc]

Unpopular opinion but as someone that’s played since 2008 I really miss the old crafting system. Sometimes less is more. I love when devs use the KISS model which is keep it stupid simple

[@shalakabooyaka1480]

Macro prismatic bauble into blade dance on your DH's. It's glorious.

[@arcadialive4265]

Praying this helps. I feel like dragon flight ended professionals and hardly anyone but bots are making solid gold from them. And being a crafter is more an annoyance without solid personal perks than a convenience.

[@kevinskoien6165]

looks like I am going all gathering in this new expansion.

[@worldgate989]

I usually finish the professions in an xpac but this one... well... having to rely on other people to lean your profession can suck it.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

Yeah. Had to get the ONE GUY who had maxed all professions on our server (I have a feeling he bought/spent a TON of gold doing it) to make equipment for my main's professions. I don't really get along with that dude. It shouldn't be this exclusive. And yes, I usually max my profession by I'd say during the first major patch, but this not only took longer, but I spent soo much idiotic amount of gold for mats, even later in the expansion.

[@worldgate989]

@@GoddessPallasAthena i usually try and get all the buyable and learnable ones, then hit up raids weekly for prints to learn but with how expensive stuff is you need to either farm all day everyday, or, buy coins and sell them for gold.

[@Vera-lv9xc]

One minor chance that i have wanted for professions since the start: Option to choose minimum quality for public orders or force refund if someone scams you. I have always written "I need this on high quality" (if i found no one to do personal order) and each time someone with low crafting skill crafts it and i lose the good materials and gold.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

Should be able to put in quality requirement in public work orders. Ridiculous that you can't. Those who DO have a lot of profession skill/knowledge would still do well, since people on the server would get to know them as being reliable.

[@andyroo7206]

I'm really annoyed with the cosmetics. When I purchase them from a vendor and learn them sometimes some are grayed out (reded?) and other times they aren't. So I go on all of my remix characters, buy a few sets, click on them, and then see if I have already learned them before and if I have then I just refund them. It gets confusing over several characters knowing where I had left off and what I do and do not own. I feel like I have bought a set before and it never registered and I relearn it. The whole thing has become a real pain. The mounts are fine, they gray (red) out, it's only the cosmetics that don't seem to register properly.

[@jediping]

The addon AllTheThings feels absolute required for remix for that sort of problem.

[@steveblease]

Still doesn't help for me, sets are still showing as not known even when they are. Some showing as known. It's impossible to know where you're upto

[@jediping]

@@steveblease Ugh, that’s not good! I was having success with the stuff Itried. :(

[@OmegaSoypreme]

Kira heard you start recording and had to be a part of the video.

[@christymurphy373]

Material quality is something I wish they would get rid of. Everyone complained about it on forums the entire xpac, and now its going to be even more difficult to get max rank mats? 😢

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

OMG YES!!! Not only does it make crafting more of a headache but it takes up a stupid amount of space, even with reagent bank, reagent bag, etc.

[@alwelle3902]

Always enjoy your take on WoW developments/patches/fixes And love the cohost kitty.

[@michaelnielsen7050]

As a guy who had pretty much all professions since vanilla. I hate this system. It sucks you need to be active in /2 like that to earn gold. The different rank of material is also crazy idea, takes up tripple the space. And for the skills. They could make it more obvious what benefits you get from spending points in the skill trees.

[@Yrael55555]

As someone who has just come back to wow after 6ish years and is currently grappling with DF professions I massively agree with the points you made about the current system being stacked against anyone who's not been on top of it since 10.0.

[@bigmaaan23]

As someone who was one of the first or second max weaponsmiths on my server group, I loved the system. Made about 4m on low commissions season 1 alone. I became known to other guilds and would get randoms messaging me for crafts and login to pending orders about every other day. I got to know a lot more people and had great experiences with them. The only people I know that were against the crafting system could hardly describe how it worked. The system was great in general, ppl who think otherwise had a skill issue. In professions.

[@isiseungella4688]

Most of my elderly friends have stopped crafting in df, never quite getting the hang of it. I hated the lack if garanteed quality, the poor return unless you had a rare recipe or spammed trade chat ie don't play but loved the quests. I hope for a simpler system, more standard AH sales and a way to know who is a crafter of what so you can order from them. Also hated the number if player asking for very expensive items with fees not covering mats: scammers!

[@JarlJimbo]

Dragonflight made me reroll almost all my characters to gatherers. They took "please make professions useful and interesting" and made them needlessly gated and convoluted. Same thing, I guess.

[@CurleyBird26]

While i think professions now are totally awesome… they suck at the same time… as a person who raids/M+s my life away i miss being able to do professions on the side… i took a few months off wow for nursing school and was never able to get caught back up with my enchanting… i’ve been buying enchants off the AH since my break.. and thats just a bummer

[@Adrenaliinz]

@Hazelnuttygames Thanks for answering my question, Hazel! :)

[@Zemilia22]

Professions have honestly just made gearing a headache for me on alts. First I got to go get the sparks, then I have to go get the crests to then send to someone to make it into an item i can use for crafted gear. Then i have to find what is good for my spec, now i have to choose between making a piece for raid or for M+ or for pvp, then 2 weeks later I have to do it all over again. Then the next season comes around and now I have to find another person to create the awakened crest and find someone specific who can recraft my existing crafted items. Then the dilemma of do I make a pvp piece or do I make a raid/M+ piece arises. Am i suposed to just say sorry guys I can't upgrade my pvp crafted piece until week 6 of the season so ill just have to deal with two piece of gear being 40+ ilvls lower. Its the same problem we have had for many many seasons with the great vault just even more annoying because crafted gear hold so much power. That is also even ignoring that alot of people play different specs, dragonflight is extremely alt friendly if you play a singular spec in a single form of content. If you even remotely dabble between specs/roles professions become a massive thorn that makes it not enjoyable for me at least. Sure by two or three months in you can get all the crafted pieces you need but that still feels awful playing at a disadvantage or making your group weaker as a whole because of forced time gating. The time in wow when crafting was good was when you bought the mats sent them to someone and they made you the piece of gear and that was it. The only limiting factor was having the gold to buy the mats or the time to farm them yourself not some time gated system that screws over people who enjoy playing more then a minigame style content end game and want to do EVERYTHING.

[@EyeKahnography]

TY for the Trove add-on recco. This is super helpful! Also love Connections. I play the NYT games too.

[@bluderino]

I was wondering professions at this exact moment and found a 13min old fresh video lol

[@strataseeker2981]

Question for Remix: Is it better to have 1 +++Stamina gem or 2 +++ gems? How's the hard numbers shake out on these?

[@Hazelnuttygames]

Epic and Legendary gems give the same amount of their stat in question- the only difference is bonus stam that you'll find on the legendary gems. How much depends on the ilvl of the piece it's socketed into. Wear epic gems and don't combine them until you have a big enough supply of gems to wear Legendary ones without any empty slots. The extra stam does help a bunch with things like your Slay damage and also just living through stuff early.

[@wowgrl6397]

As a non-crafter, I really hate how professions are done. There's no guarantee I can get a max crafted item, even if I ask for it, provide all the mats and give a huge tip. Recipes like the neck are too hard to get. People in my guild have been trying all expac and haven't seen it drop.

[@nofoxgiven6561]

The guild I was in for df had one necklace drop and he sold it for a few million.

[@revannia]

I hate professions now. I used to like doing all of them between my main and alts, but I didn't even max out my main's professions this expansion. Professions are now overly complicated and use too many different levels of mats. Being tied to crafting tables is and has always been annoying. They should have followed FFXIV's model where you have crafting stations but you can do crafting anywhere and they got rid of different levels of mats because it became too overwhelming. MoP Remix was a good idea but the execution was just a mess. A list of all the transmogs and where you get them without having to rely on an addon would have been nice. Thanks for the heads up about Trove Tally addon!

[@DAYBROK3]

it brightens my day to see you, gets my saturday going

[@Oktopia]

My biggest gripe with everything profession is the need to have a reputation to access recipes. It's hell on alts because you never play them enough to achieve any decent level of reputation. Annoying af.

[@isiseungella4688]

Rep will be account wide: problem solved.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

I HATED having to get it for Cobalt Assembly. IF they made it a requirement, at least stick to the ones you get from just playing normally.

[@Lillianaxe294]

Btw, a fun way to get around the no flight areas is any parasol toy + meteor chip. have fun gliding at super fast speeds

[@sherdennis1698]

Thank you for all your knowledge and general discussion of wow. I have played wow since the beginning of WOTLK and have learned so much from you! Keep up the great work!! And I must have that chicken backpack!!!!

[@CinHotlanta]

Connections is my jam :)

[@Lynn_Nice]

Thanks!

[@nodensbertilak6855]

My inventory is full of so much stuff I have no idea what it's for.

[@Nanox0]

I always use a Warrior (except Warglaives) and a Mage (for wands) to collect most of the weapons.

[@coldcutcombo4704]

I stopped my professions leveling at crafting orders quest.

[@beesly01]

I went ahead and used alts I needed to get heritage armor eventually for to get mounts, plugging away on my BM monk for the upgraded gear

[@kensg]

Thanks for another informative update 😄💯

[@roonger]

Question: Are we not able to get access to the reputation vendors in MOP remix? I can't seem to find any of them despite being exalted on many.

[@Hazelnuttygames]

No, but I expect our characters to keep the rep that they've earned when they convert to non-Timerunning characters at the end of Remix. You should be able to visit the vendors to do your shopping then.

[@lennoxraynewood2741]

How about if the mats for professions actually were worth something on the AH instead of me having to just not bother and holding everything I gather in my bank then vendor for whatever gold it’s worth. I have so much herbs, ore, fish, meat and cloth in my bank and it’s all gonna go to the vendor I’ve stopped wasting my time. I used to make all my gold by selling the fish and herbs needed for raiders to make their feasts and potions.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

It's probably because a lot of people DROPPED crafting and picked up gathering, or people simply gave up on professions altogether and so, the mats aren't needed. Cooking isn't as bad, but there might be a surplus of herbs. (Rousing / awakened items sell well though, I think).

[@acehex2211]

Overall crafting is frustrating. I spent roughly 2 hours yesterday leveling an alt from 0 to 300 in classic tailoring after spending the same amount of time just getting 6 knowledge points for DF.

[@OrganicJKW]

I very much dislike that Inspiration is still a thing, especially on gear. Concentration was supposed to replace that. I don't want my crafts dictated by luck and RNG. All of the crafting seems "fine" on the alpha/beta outside of LW now missing all weapons (I'm hoping that's an oversight). Currently, very few recipes are coming from renown, which I like! Also, you earn a LOT more base skill points from trainer recipes than from being forced into using soulbound mats and waiting for personal/public crafting orders to show up. I do appreciate that Blizz is taking a bit of a turn with buffs, potions, enchants, and even some of the "embellished" gear with more kiss-curse offerings. In terms of embellished, it doesn't appear to be a thing in TWW. I'm literally wearing 4pc tier, crafted 2pc set, proc cloak, crafted proc boots, and a proc weapon. None say embellished or have any language that restricts them. It'd be great if all of that was possible as I very much like buffing the party as a healer and the extra spell effects and bonuses feel and look great.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

Agree with everything except kiss/curse. As a squishy mage, I'm so sick and tired of my gear trying to kill me. Once you max your skill and knowledge, I don't think max quality should be a proc, but rather a guarantee. If you put that much effort into something that MOST people have completely given up on, RNG shouldn't be a part of it. You are a master crafter. You shouldn't fail.

[@aljmayr4826]

i don't have the patience for full crosswords but the nyt mini crosswords? absolutely addictive

[@krucible9369]

This is true. I haven’t done anything with professions since the first month of DF

[@DestructoPop]

Jepetto is also offering a discount again, but it's not a fuill 50k off this year. Unless I have a Dalaran discount I don't know about?

[@laughingisgoodforyou3969]

Question - I forgot about this until you mentioned professions. On my main I maxed out my profession points and between the weekly profession quests and the treasties I now have 90 profession points I can't use. Will I get to keep those or do those just disappear once the next expansion starts? I suspect I'll loose them but thought I'd ask.

[@willythemailboy2]

You won't get to keep them but there are two NPCs you can trade them to for more Artisan's Mettle. The Apprentice Crafter and Apprentice Gatherer can be found in Valdrakken near the crafting order NPC. TomTom coordinates 37.6 64.8

[@laughingisgoodforyou3969]

@@willythemailboy2 Thank you. That makes sense.

[@fadedletterslost]

The problem with a system where crafting is difficult is that you end up having 90% of the people just become gatherers. If it takes forever to get cap in crafting because the mats are hard to get and expensive most people just won't do it, they will just gather mats instead. Then you end up with a system that destroys gathering professions instead. The previous iterations of crafting all the way to Dragonflight worked fine because it didn't feel like you were punished for being one or the other. Now it feels like unless you are gathering mats that you have to no life crafting. They could have added layers onto the previous crafting system, but instead they made it a convoluted mess of reputation grinding, mat buying, and praying that you can be the first to start crafting the rares with the limited timed items to max out fast.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

Most people in my guild and circle of friends just simply gave up on professions. Too complicated, too much time and gold investment needed. And if you didn't play all the time, you were punished for not being able to do the weekly profession quests and whatnot.

[@fadedletterslost]

@@GoddessPallasAthena It happened to me, and forget about leveling alts with professions.

[@Vondarkstar]

Professions are dead to me. Just not fun anymore and they clearly are not taking community feedback on them. Awesome 👍🏻

[@Veldiirn]

Question - life has been hectic recently and I haven’t gotten to play the Remix at all - any tips to start?

[@kimdeuel]

Dragonflight killed professions for me. I only crafted for my own characters but I had all professions maxed out from every expansion and collected as many recipies as I could. In DW, I only worked on Leatherworking because that's what my main wears. Doing more was more hassle than fun. If the system is continuing, then I'll likely not bother. Enjoying Remix but I didn't realize after getting my Paladin into 402 gear (was going to save the bronze for mogs) that the rings, trinkets, and cloak do not level up to match. I tried to get into Heroic Raids to get more bronze but nobody wanted me even though I was still under 371 ilvl overall (Is that still a thing?) Now I just feel stuck on that character, so back to leveling alts I go. Beta has been more fun now that I'm not dc'ing every 15 minutes. Thanks for the addon information! Just installed it.

[@riotgrrrlzgaming]

Question! Will the gems transfer over to our regular realm once Panda Remix is done? I'd like to create a speed character and keep all the speed gems!

[@sleepingratto]

hi hazel! i have a quick question ^-^; idk if you already addressed this somewhere and i forgot but, the recolored (trading post) class sets for remix require the landfall achievement to unlock and buy. do i have to do that on every class i want the sets on? or can i just do landfall once and just buy it on my alts? sorry again if you answered this before!

[@Hazelnuttygames]

Doing it once lets you buy the rest of them, on any character. I unlocked it on a hunter and then bought the sets on a different character that I powerleveled with their leveling bronze. The only benefit to repeating the achievement is the character that you do it on does receive 'their' set for free on completing the achievement, so it saves a bit of Bronze.

[@sleepingratto]

@@Hazelnuttygames ohh ok! tysm for the answer!

[@jeffreywayne3650]

Glad I'm not alone on NYT word game playing 🙂

[@tinyoctopus6317]

That add-on is going to now consume my life; thank you to whatever dev made it, because I've been just having an open window on my second monitor with the wowhead article up and trying to manually check things off in an excel spreadsheet. This is like All The Things, but one that I can actually complete to make my monkey brain go "oooh".

[@IceMarsoc77]

so there is one thing i hope they fix, some of the larger pieces of gear like weapons and such or the Primal gear that could be adjusted depending on a mat you get from raiding or dungeons right now its called Awakened Dream Fragment or something along those lines to raise the i level of an item in crafting. That stuff was fine but instead of making the items bind on pickup, I'd like to see all that stuff bind on equip like it used to be, b/c as a crafter you where not able to make a lot of money this expansion via crafting, it was more of a self improvement along the way kind of thing which was ok but did not help you make a crap ton of gold like previous expansions.... now if i had to choose i would make normal learned crafting recipes BOE, while recipes earned from world drops/reputation/raids to be BOP or made through crafting order, that to me would have made much more sense and it would have allowed crafters to make more money along the way.

[@skipmcilvaine]

No disrespect to Hazel, but am I the only one who spends the entire video mesmerized by her kitty cat?

[@ShadowsOfThePast]

We have 2 Devon Rex of our own so not as mesmerizing as it might be to non cat people 😂 I can relate though. Cats can be really hard to ignore.

[@traceyjadeboyer5181]

I have always really enjoyed professions and made sure to max out at least one of each in every expansion. Dragonflight professions are absolutely horrible. They are so complex I feel I would have to read a manual (and keep it on hand) just to have an idea of how to do anything. I also have no clue how to get patterns. I have a long list of unlearned patterns and I have yet to see a vendor, or get any from drops. Not that it probably matters as I don't want to constantly chase after sparks to make anything. I am just heartbroken over what they have done. I have been playing Wow since vanilla.....20 years! I have seen some poor decisions in the game over the years, but I would just move on and enjoy the things I love: questing, auction house and professions. They pretty much destroyed gold making from the AH by merging them, so now no one makes money. Now they have completely destroyed professions, my second favorite thing. I am strongly considering looking for another game to play. WoW just is not what it used to be, it is not the game I love anymore.

[@orkunakman1541]

Just checked out Trove Tally. The remix weapon list is kinda insane. Really need an arsenal, doesn't even matter how much bronze they put it up for.

[@dododog5002]

Thanks hazel smashed it as always, love your hair too!

[@colinobrien1895]

Anyway to use TSM destroy with Thaumturgy can’t figure out how to get TSM to salvage my Thaumaturgy mats

[@Scuuurbs]

I only just got back into wow this year. Ive been taking it slow, playing other games (and even when playing wow, I took part in Plunderstorm and now Remix). I still do not have the main story done, so I don’t have weekly crafting quests unlocked. My crafting ability is SO incredibly far behind, it’s kinda hilarious. I haven’t played since MoP and i’m used to leveling my professions while leveling my character - as a tailor/enchanter, easily crafting gear, keeping my gear enchanted, etc. Now, both my crafts are sorely underleveled, many recipes are locked behind renown, and I can only make lower quality items (I’ve been buying enchants off the AH, as an enchanter, because I can’t make HQ versions yet. That feels weird AF lol…) The crafting orders also don’t seem to be a thing? (or the orders dont show before max skill idk) At least material costs are pretty low since the market is so saturated, lol. The new prof stuff seems kinda cool, but honestly I’d rather have the old way. There’s already sssooooooo much stuff pulling at our attention, adding complexity & bloat to professions definitely wasn’t on my bucket list of features 😅

[@EdetaKudou]

Question - are there any professions in TWW that have daily CD similar to alchemy and tailoring now? If so - which professions are they and for what items? Unfortunately I do not have beta access myself

[@willythemailboy2]

Almost certainly. I think all the crafting professions had CDs in DF. JC had a gem upgrade CD and eng had 2 random box of bombs crafting CD

[@tdooz8400]

I gave up on professions in Dragonflight due to not being able to catch up.. it wasn't worth it. So i'm glad to hear there is catch up mechanics

[@scom888]

well i got one remix up to max might need too get one or two more

[@Eirchi]

Question: What type of bear is best?

[@NNy2002]

Question: so that means I can get garroshs shoulders from the vender on my shammy?.

[@Hazelnuttygames]

yes! I bought and learned them on a hunter yesterday.

[@itsforby]

Question for next week; What class are you most excited to play in TWW? And why? I'm having difficulty deciding what I want to "main" lol

[@chriseggroll]

looking forward to seeing npc crafting orders

[@DerekScottBland]

I guess I'll still pass on crafting. I shouldn't have to hunt down a massive dissertation on the net to learn one fraction of the game. Dragonflight's biggest drawback was the unnecessary complication of crafting ,and it looks like that tradition will continue.

[@Avalene79]

I agree 100%.

[@ILikeIcedCoffee]

Excellent. Less competition, more customers.

[@Avalene79]

@@ILikeIcedCoffee For sure. Gold is ridiculously easy to make without crafting, but if that's what you rely on, have at it. lol

[@willythemailboy2]

@@Avalene79 I liked crafting but some weeks I made more gold running the alt army through world quests than I did crafting anything. Too much effort to sell BOP crafts, but making intermediate parts and mats paid pretty well. I concentrated on things I could multi craft rather than things that required inspiration procs.

[@zeriul09]

tbh i hate the dragonflight professions, only came back a couple of months ago and it's so confusing as to wtf im supposed to be doing to improve them

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

It was my impression that they wanted to convince players to return and garner more players, but with some of the changes ive seen here and other streamers, it seems the opposite is true. Blizzard never learns it seems

[@Radcliff-1026]

i can't believe that we have content in remix that is locked behind mythic content. not only do we have a limited window to get all this stuff, but we have to pick and choose whether we want to upgrade our gear to do the mythic content or spend our brooze on the limited time rewards AND we have to contend with the aholes that bar us from getting into the mythic content that creat the groups in the group finder. They demand this class, this spec, this gear, this achievement, this io score, this mythic score, this or that, or all of the above. I was really having fun with the remix until i found just how much stuff I WASN'T going to be able to get because of this. I do hope if they do this again they take the rewards out of mythic content and make gearing better.

[@robdabanks]

Professions lost their soul and the adventure behind them. If you want to fix them, you need to look at games that do them far better in their early stages and Runescape is a key example. Need to create a frost related item? You should have to travel to frost related zones and do a unique gameplay mechanic to acquire it, with something that borders on a QTE for doing them (which 'could' reduce bots if done the right way = far more lucrative professions with less items being produced in the market by bots). Ignoring that, mining in classic feels so much more satisfying to me, than modern, simply for having to click the node multiple times. I remember enjoying the QOL change, but I was wrong. The immersion is something valuable we left behind. I play Wartales at the moment and they've made their professions feel incredible. They have gameplay to them and it makes you want to engage in the systems, far, far more than WoW has in years.

[@thatdogdudedenton5302]

I hated the new professions. Extremely complicated.

[@curry_online]

Oh great. The complicated expensive professions in DF are going to be… complicated and expensive in TWW.

[@fulgrimm4485]

Have professions undone, some with no points spent, hated locked behind fishing recipes

[@mikenjenn72]

asmr is a thing for a lot of people i really never got anything out of it myself. But is there a name for being mesmerized by her stoking the cat every week. like the visual equivalent of asmr? but thank your for the updates and my guild thanks you for the raid strats :)

[@nr4dd]

There are cats. There are cool cats... and there are cats that KNOW they are cool! 😎🐾

[@Derekzparty]

5:58 The confused teachers teaching the confused disciple who advises the truly confused (me) !

[@virginiawagner6928]

7:00 Wrong you can collect everything on one character (all weapons) if you pick warrior (warrior is master of all weapons)

[@OridanIX]

Well, except wands. So not quite all.

[@rasmushopland5001]

Not true. Warrior can't learn wands as far as i know. Otherwise correct

[@lilagtook]

Warrior can collect bows, but will they drop for one?

[@cadencenavigator958]

Warrior also can't use Warglaives.

[@jamminkeys]

yak stack is back in your pack \o/

[@Beer_Wolf]

I honestly hate DF's profession knowledge system, it's beyond unfriendly towards Alts and late comers... Leveling up the profession should yield KP to use towards their specialisation trees, not this nonsense of relying on an outside source to gather for it.

[@mynaemismoos]

Nice moose shirt! ;)

[@kairukus]

This may be an unpopular opinion but I hate that crafted gear is BIS for some specs. I don’t want to spend my gold on temporary gear in order to be comfortable and competitive in M+ and mythic raids

[@Jivindox]

This sounds awesome. Anything to stop the Profession Cartels from abusing the system. These Cartels or Mafia's were insanely toxic to the crafting scene and I hope Blizzard does more to discourage these little gangs from forming and trying to manipulate and control the market. They have been by far the worst part of Dragonflights new profession system

[@westcrisa1]

The absurdity of the crafting orders system has me baffled to this day and it would be horrible to have it carry into future expansions unattained to . The fact that someone actually thought it a good idea to have people not play the actual game for hours but spend that time spamming trade in order to either find customers for their craft or a crafter for their gear is insane. Make all orders public, leave the option to choose the difficulty of the craft available, simple. Crafters who have the time to put into maximizing their skill fulfill the orders that are set to max difficulty, the others take care of the easier ones. Increase the daily limit to 10-15-20. And out of a sudden no one spends hours on smtg silly, you log on, place your order, go by your business, alternatively you log on, check orders, pick any you want to fulfill, go by your day. Personal orders could be left in just so that targeted crafts can still take place, peace to us all. The whole idea behind the system with the pride of being one of the few crafters on a server that could make specific gear was short lived imo and came at the price of a lot of wasted time.

[@travisk8747]

My problem is that the community knowledge takes so long to catch up because people aren't willing to share as it will reduce their gold making. I see content creators will release their big gold makers right before it gets nerfed.

[@TheHouseboat1]

Now if they would just let you keep all the hunter pets and not have to re-farm them for each hunter.

[@steveblease]

It wasn't that the profs were complicated, it's more of a..... If you play multiple characters and have to go through this banal procedure multiple times on multiple characters it just becomes an anxiety inducing stress I can live without. First time since 2004 I couldn't be bothered. I did my Alchemy and herbalism, they rest are all at 50% and will never get done.

[@kalasmournrex1470]

Less rng on crafting is a win imo

[@CommonHawthorn]

Question: have you tried Strands? what do you think of it? I stopped doing the spelling one in disgust because it's not just making words, it's making words on the creator's list. Nothing more annoying than finding a clever word and having it rejected.

[@Hazelnuttygames]

I did try and it and had the same feeling that the answers seemed really arbitrary. I stick to connections, wordle, Spelling Bee and the Mini