HDR 68 vs HDR 68 • WATCH BEFORE BUYING DEVASTATOR!

Putting the factory Umarex HDR 68 7.5 joules vs the 30 joules modified version, against a whole variety of targets... in slow-motion. MUST WATCH!
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[@ScaredyCatTactical]

Another great video. Love that you are doing some at 30 Joules now. Those coconuts fresh off the tree are tough, especially the greenish ones. I shot some a while back with my TCP at a similar Joule setting, way before I started putting anything on video. I got basically the same type of result. I had to dissect them out with a knife. Fun stuff.

[@AirgunAlley]

Yesss! Fun is the keyword here! And thank you for watching, my dear colleague! Those coconuts are cool, tough as hell. But I think I’ll continue with the Dominican ones from the super market. The slowmo effects are priceless with those. And they’re haaaaaard!!!

[@stefanorunnertube]

@@AirgunAlley Hi how to enhance the Clock version of umarex?? is it possible or you suggest me only to buy the revolver ??

[@ConnersvilleBarber]

I’ve watched this video before but looking back I can’t help but thank you man! I’ve been addicted to your videos and ever since been addicted to modifying my hdr 68. I have the extended barrel as well as the sniper barrel extension as well as hpa capabilities. This thing is shooting hot! I’m buying a chrono soon so I can get some numbers but I just wanted to say thank you for the great content.

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh my dear Connor! And I’ve been addicted to your kind comments, so thank you!! I’m very happy I was able to help with my videos and sounds like you’re having a lot of fun with your new toys! I must warn you… it’s veeeery addictive :)

[@ConnersvilleBarber]

@@AirgunAlley your not kidding ! Lol but a good addiction compared to some out there !

[@usafcombatvet218]

One of the best reviews I’ve seen of the 68

[@AirgunAlley]

Wow, thank you so much for this!! 🙌🏼

[@runerebel8441]

Cool video as always. Since you re-used and mixed the balls when cronyed its hard to know the energy given at the test. But from previous testing its over 25 joules, so good power 💥👌. Maybe shot the devestators over the chrony next time? Would realy like to know the power the HDR68 gives with them 👍. Very nice slo-mo also. Keep up the good work. Greetings from your friend in Norway 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

You know, right after I was done filming I realized I didn’t chrono the devastators 🤦🏻‍♂️ I was able to recycle a few - I’ll do it in the next HDR68 video. I’ve yet to watch the one you’ve done HDR 68 vs HDR 68. I’ll be off work all next week - will be able finally catch up! Thank you my friend!

[@runerebel8441]

@@AirgunAlley Thanks. Looking foreward to your videos. Take care my friend 😃

[@syn8etikos]

@@AirgunAlley So, did you encounter any kind of problems when using the "recycled devastators"? In case you've done a video about that test, which I must have missed for some reason, please send me the link and forget my superfluous question :-) I also have a box of used (50 cal) devastators lying round (without any kind of visible damage to their plastic/metal parts), and I am planning to test them in the coming days in order to check whether they work properly with my HDR50 (11J).

[@stephendippenaar8552]

I used the HDR 50 revolver when i worked as a private security officer looking after private property alone and believe me i felt a lot safer having it first 2 rounds were pepper balls and the last 4 Devastators then normal nylon balls were to weak for my liking. So i'm looking at this HDR 68 and it packs a punch

[@AirgunAlley]

Wow! That’s incredibly interesting Stephen, I had no idea that security officers would rely on the HDR 50! You’ve opened up a world for me! Funny I also alternate my rounds, using the same ammo. I’ve added a few to the menu, but thats a great combination! You would absolutely be very impressed by the HDR 68. And if you find a 16 joules version, I doubt you’d even want to modify it, if that’s what you usually do. Good luck!

[@stephendippenaar8552]

@@AirgunAlley Thanks for reply yes we do or some of us its hard to get a Fire arm license in South Africa but we use HDP or HDR 50 with Pepperballs but its last resort we are very restricted by what force we allowed inforce here. Pepperspray then baton if that dont work the C02 HDR my job was to dangerous i quit after a year crime here worst in the world

[@stephendippenaar8552]

But i might be forced to do it again becoz almost 40% unemployment in South Africa so yes the HDR 68 looks like a good option over the HDR 50

[@yusuffreezer8283]

@@stephendippenaar8552 wear a nice bodyarmour armored helmet and pray to god

[@yusuffreezer8283]

@@stephendippenaar8552 and practice aim and reaction

[@TOURSEKEV]

Always great videos and creative 👍💥🔫

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you my friend! Soon I’ll be creating on a other of your creations! Can’t wait !!

[@TOURSEKEV]

@@AirgunAlley 😎🏝

[@guyinthesky6696]

Informing and a high level of sophisticated humor make this..your production..Top Shelf.

[@l.o.k.732]

Good video thank you 👊🏻😎

[@AirgunAlley]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank YOU

[@techromancerzero2709]

I think the 30j devastator rounds would've penetrated the metal pan if it had been braced on both sides. Supporting it at the bottom only means that a lot of energy is absorbed just through the pan flexing.

[@Outrider74]

Even with the 7.5j version the Devastators would still smart

[@guyinthesky6696]

Outstanding vid…the portability and power makes it a perfect in home defense tool. Would like too see how pepper rounds perform..on those foam heads.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey man thank you so much! I agree, these things can generally and easily knock a person out. And your wish is my order :) Check out this video - I peppered the hell out of those mannequins…. and my self :( PEPPER BALLS by Jaw-Droppers (50 & 68cal) kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4a5Z4x8rtFol7s

[@guyinthesky6696]

@@AirgunAlley I’m seriously looking into purchasing the revolver and making contact with Buddha Troy for this mod…and now I’m am needing something that does not penetrate walls but does lay a cloud disperse..apartment dwellers are more inclined to that direction.

[@AirgunAlley]

Try those Jaw-Droppers 68cal pepperballs- once you get that HDR. Great quality. Hahaha Troy is gonna love that Buddha title!

[@zackzittel7683]

@@guyinthesky6696 12/20 gauge with #2 shot. These are not actual deterrents. I had an empire axe loaded with 1/2 riot balls, 1/2 pepper balls. (About 180 rounds in an electric hopper. I shot a trespasser with it. He kept charging me until I was out of ammo, this huge dude got me in a choke hold and I stabbed him in the thigh and then in the face. That dissuaded him for a minute but then he turned around like he wanted some payback, I drew my glock 23 and told him, I’ve gone everything I can to not shoot you, but now you’re forcing my hand. He left and I was glad to see him go

[@KobraVR]

Just for reference the 30 joules shooting 6.8g (108 grain) rounds @ 350fps equates to 28ft/lbs or 38 joules if the chronograph is accurate

[@AirgunAlley]

Awesome! Thanks a lot for this!!

[@mecanomy]

hahaha...the "generic" at the beginning of the video was awesome..

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha thank you :)

[@FOR-VALOUR]

You can get decent HPA conversion kits for these guns. It would be great to see the effect of Goa conversion on shot power consistency.

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you Ryan! That indeed is in the plans :) soon my friend, soon…

[@jordanstravolo5111]

What's an HPA conversion?

[@yusuffreezer8283]

What is hpa conversion

[@joemalski8374]

Getting better and better the channel.well Hdr 50 at 35 jouls is still the better choice i think.and my choice for 68 is Fsc.but for the money its a steel. Its a shame some utubers selling less leathal guns for thousand.keep killing it

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you Joe, I always appreciate it! Haha and I know you don’t like the 68 BUT I bet that if you try it, you will put down the 50 and the FSC forever ahahaha I agree with you, 110$ is nothing for this!

[@RR-ty6ki]

Joe, How do you get 35 out of a hdr 50?

[@joemalski8374]

Homedefence24 all german part barel upgrade polish barell 5gram ammo.hp 55 joul@@RR-ty6ki

[@stuart2500]

Alright mate I'm watching it 🤣 don't know how people can say you can't use them as self defense would not like to get shot by the 30j one Reckon the 7.5 would make you think twice with the devorstator rounds but the 30 would be game over after one shot .keep up the good work best channel on you tube 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

I can’t agree with you more, Stuart! And thank you so much as always! Soooo…. Next week, be ready to get very, very jealous! I just got a super modified HDB68 😱 it looks so mean! I cannot wait to shoot it!! I’ll see you next week my dear mate, can’t wait for your reax on that 😊

[@stuart2500]

@@AirgunAlley 🤣🤣 mate consider me jealous been looking at that HDB myself think that might be my next one if the Mrs don't moan.does look a beast Reckon you will have loads of fun with that plus 16 rounds can't Waite for that vid happy for ya mate 👍

[@jackweeks698]

Lol ok 😄 love the beginning

[@AirgunAlley]

😂 thanks Jack!

[@vonarg]

4:20 The ball goes directly in the hole at the bottom right, nice ! Maybe it's still in just in case !

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you ahahaha! I don’t know how, but I often manage to hit the same hole twice. Pure luck! :)

[@FLAlesslethal]

I can almost bet that if the top of that pan was clamped down somehow the 30j would of blasted right through. I've found a big difference in the flexibility of the target... I think im going to start getting my water in the jugs somewhat like you use instead of going through 120 single plastic bottles that just go into the recycling bin after were done drinking them. Yeah 👍 i can still recycle the big jugs after being them up a bit right?!! Lol Hey great vid content, much needed one to be seen for a few reasons. 💯

[@normandtremblay5498]

That 30joules in the knee or shin!😳😳 crippling !!

[@AirgunAlley]

Absolutely! 🙌🏼

[@jeffwilcox5123]

I'm flogrown and your videos are classic Soflo.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha! Wet and sticky

[@benjleath9406]

6:39 Shoots the pellet speed meter ! 😂😂😂

[@AirgunAlley]

😂😂

[@guyinthesky6696]

Highly anticipating the HPA/CO2 comparisons vids on the horizon…this will make true believers out of skeptics.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahahaha right you are my friend! I’ll try to convert those skeptics as soon as possible with a HPA vs CO2… shall keep you posted

[@bongkaos5519]

My 30 joules version should arrive today... Can't wait to do my own "testing".... Great content as usual. Stay safe and shoot straight.

[@AirgunAlley]

Niiice congrats!! You’re gonna love it! Let me know your thoughts once you played with it a bit…

[@dinghuskahn5819]

Hey man, would you mind telling me what modifications you did to get the muzzle energy up to 30j from the factory 7.5j? Even if you send it out to someone who worked on it, I'd love to know where you were able to do so to achieve that level of power. Any help would be highly appreciated. I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks in advance.

[@AirgunAlley]

@@dinghuskahn5819 hey man! I’m in a plane about to take off. Pls check the description of the video. All info is there. Contact Troy

[@bongkaos5519]

@@dinghuskahn5819 Just incase your interested, I bought mine off Ebay. A complete list of mods can be found in the description. Have fun!!

[@swaggod226]

Where to buy

[@antoniojoseviana6425]

Assisto direto esses dois , fazem bons vídeos , são bons atores, pena que essa arma não chegou aqui ainda, quando chegar vou comprar .

[@AirgunAlley]

Muito obrigado Antonio 🙌🏼 I hope things will change soon there!

[@herekao]

Eu também fiquei empolgado!! Infelizmente acredito que o maior calibre que podemos ter em airgun será as .50 mesmo.

[@esteves87]

Já tem no Brasil sim . Falcon armas

[@PaoloFraniTroutandOutdoor]

MITICO!! Scusa se rispondo sempre in italiano ma il mio inglese lascia a desiderare... Comunque pensare che mi toccherà la versione da 7,5j un poco mi intristisce, come l'hdr50 e l'hdp50 la sensazione è di avere in mano un prodotto capace di ben altri numeri ma insensatamente nerfato.

[@AirgunAlley]

Ciao grande! Scherzi? È un piacere per me fare conversazione nella mia lingua :) Eh lo so, immagino sia fastidioso… e a pensare che oltre confine la versione 16j è legalissima, non aiuta. Cmq, leggi cambiano (quasi) sempre - magari un giorno sarà legale rimuovere il restrittore… et voilà!

[@Poordirtfarmer]

i need one of those bad

[@AirgunAlley]

The 16 joules version is out now and it’s amazing! Check out the ANSgear website :)

[@stevealdebaran626]

I use clear nail polish on ammo or apply it inside drum to fix loose fitting

[@AirgunAlley]

Good system, Steve. Thanks!

[@RandysAdventurousFamilyRAFChan]

I love them 🤘🤘🤙

[@Ezduztube]

Good video 👍🏻🔫

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you sir! Back at you!

[@MarkWilcock]

Another great test - thank you. I've just got my HDR68 today so I'm on the prowl for some decent slugs. As I want to store the pistol for home defense I probably will stay away from the .68 devastator rounds now I know they don't hold in the drum. Do you happen to know what is the best fitting slug that is as good or close to the devastators?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Mark! Thanks so much! So far one of the best ammo I shot with the HDR 68 is the aluminum balls. I’ll be doing a video in the next two or three weeks comparing a variety of 68 cal slugs including CODODO’s real bullets and Deez Büllets…. Hopefully that’ll be helpful to you. Also not sure if you saw this… kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHPHoIycipqKfq8

[@MarkWilcock]

@@AirgunAlleyholy smokes. Those aluminium balls aren't taking any prisoners!! SOLD.

[@AkiraHDR50]

On eBay there is some ammo for the HDR.50 it's like the devistator rounds but instead of a ball bearing they have a 6mm or 9mm bullet depending on your choice. Edit: But waiting maybe a delay as they come from Italy.

[@AirgunAlley]

Wow interesting, thank you MR VeryFantastic! Send me the link if you have it, would love to check them out. There is so much cool ammo for the HDR 50 - now it’s time for the 68!!

[@AkiraHDR50]

@@AirgunAlley I've tried to send the link but it's been removed twice. Just put a eBay search for HDR 50 ammo. It's should be quick to find.

[@AirgunAlley]

@@AkiraHDR50 just saw them! They look very cool! I'll shoot them an email... thanks again for pointing them out !

[@jonlucas5521]

Great video. Is the only difference between the 7 joule and the 30 joule the removal of the "restricter"?

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you Jon! Yes, but also the addition of a small bb (in this case - other’s use other round metal bits) to control the flow of the CO2. If you only remove the restrictor, you lose all the gas at the first shot. Check out Rune Rebel’s channel. He has made some videos that explain the process… good luck :)

[@duskom6737]

Dobar video.

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼

[@syn8etikos]

Great review bro, thanks for sharing it! I noticed the same thing when using the 50 cal "devastators" with my HDR50 (11J): two of them fit "loosely" so they always fall through the other side of the drum (and thus, from the barrel of the gun when it's pointed downwards), which, as you point out in the video, is a bit annoying...Maybe using an aluminum drum (like the one on the Homedefence-24 website) would solve that issue? What do you think? Would such an upgrade make sense?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hello my friend, and thanks a lot! That’s a good question, I haven’t tried the Homedefence-24 aluminum mag - but it would make great sense if it was a bit tighter and fitted the Devastator perfectly. I wonder if the drum’s specs indicate that 🤔

[@syn8etikos]

@@AirgunAlley Well, I just searched the homedefense-24 site, and apparently they only make one for the HDR50. I admit I find it kinda odd that they don't make one for its bigger brother, so I just sent them an email, asking if they plan to make one any time soon (because that'd be great for all of us who have a passion for modding our HDR68 :-) On the same wavelength, the other EU-based company that makes aluminum drums for both the HDR50 and the HDR68 is the equally reliable Z-RAM, but unfortunately they seem to have run out of them, as their site says that both items will be "available soon" (whatever that means; hopefully, it won't take more than a couple of months for the drums to be available again on their site.. :-( UPDATE: Apparently, the good folks at Homedefense-24 did make an aluminum drum for the HDR68 as well, but it's now "sold out", so I can only hope they make a few more of them soon!

[@BaronOfHell666]

My gun is 26 joules. I also noticed how the devastators don't fit snug. Might not be good to use them for home defense since they might fall out of the gun. Fun to shoot though.

[@AirgunAlley]

I agree! Unless Devastator comes out with a slightly larger 68 cal version, I would avoid using them in the HDR 68…

[@georgeloveless4176]

Another great video...well done my friend. So, I still haven't bought the HDR68 because I'm still having fun with my HDR50. And I've been running these rounds thru it called "Homewreckers", and let me tell you, the damage that my HDR50 11 joule version renders when firing these things is brutal. Do you know anything about them? If so, what would you say is more powerful...the Devastators or the Homewreckers? Again, using my 11 joule 50 cal HDR, these Homewreckers blew thru half inch sheet rock from like 20 feet like nothing. Tell me what you think and thanks again for your work out here. I know it takes time and effort making your videos and all I can say is that its definitely appreciated! Thanks.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi George! Thank you so much for your supportive words! They truly mean and help a lot! It’s funny you say this. I love these guns, I really do and it’s quite obvious. But one thing I’ve learned is how inconsistent they can be. I tried the Homewrekers and was barely able to shoot them. I know there were actions I could’ve taken to fit them in the mag, but… Anyway - here’s the video that came out of that experience kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2ioaJepZ5mMh7s

[@AirgunAlley]

That said, and I may be overstating here, but the difference between shooting the HDR 50 vs the 68, to me, is almost like driving a cool moped against riding an actual motorcycle

[@guyinthesky6696]

Yup…straight up knowledgeable, entertaining and appreciated also.👍🏼

[@joemalski8374]

Homewrecker are amazing and price fair

[@joemalski8374]

@@AirgunAlley But your hdr 50 is weak very weak.

[@spunkflunk]

What about 16j vs 30j?

[@eismann6667]

Monster cool Toy ❕🤓👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@6.0hh19]

I love being an adult buying toys 😂

[@AKmumu]

Canadian version at maxed out at 7.5 joules, it's a shame because I don't think it's enough for home defense

[@JHOFF111]

Best ammo for self protection? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much. Love ur vids. Very good information, im about to purchase the 68 ...16, thanks again

[@AirgunAlley]

The 68 cal aluminum balls are great, CODODO’s ammo is excellent also Deez Bullets. You then have Z-ram and HomeDefense 24 hahaha there are a lot of great ammo out there. Have a look at some of my videos and pick the one like the most :) It also depends where you live and the shipping costs, go for the ones that are cheaper for you!

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh and always have a batch of pepper balls!

[@JHOFF111]

@AirgunAlley very awesome, yes I've been watching ur vids all night at work, I'm gonna try the jawbreakes, riot balls, rubber steal, and a couple other types, didn't get the peppers, nxt pay, those are the most expensive, I'm not sure exactly what to get. I got the 68 cal. With the joules converter, do u oil the co2s? I think I saw u do something like that, do I need to buy oil? Thank you again for all your help and your reply, very generous of you, I really wanted to look at that Italian ammo but I think it was on eBay you had a link I really don't use that is there another website I could go to for that? I apologize if I'm wrong I've looked at so many videos the last 24 hours

[@davidrobertson5700]

Please get some giant air pellets like paraboli or normal but massive air pistol shots

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks David! If you know of any, pls post some links, would love to have a look. I did a quick search on google and nothing came up. Thanks again

[@davidrobertson5700]

@@AirgunAlley possible to mould from pouring lead if that helps . I can look and see who sells

[@maurizioghezzer4302]

Quanti joules ha il revolver cal 68 ? In italia per legge il limite è 7.5

[@ronaldhitchcock4356]

I wanna say your water jug is to close. The water flying out is going back into the chronie maybe why you're erroring so much.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi Ronald! Yes you are right, that poor chrono suffers very much, every time I use it. I just ordered a new machine that also calculates the joules on screen. I promise you I will treat that one a lot better!! Thank you for your input!

[@Jason-94]

​@@AirgunAlley 2023 Umarex T4E HDR .68 (12 julios), the previous model of 7.5 reached 30, the current model of 12 joules when modifying must exceed 30 joules

[@thirdeyelazerclinic1143]

​@@AirgunAlleypardon me if I'm being dumb, but isn't it better to keep the chrono and target and consistent distances for comparison video?

[@fpvraver]

i wonder is there a way to upgrade the speed loader and barrel so the devastator rounds fit & work better?

[@AirgunAlley]

Again, great question. Let’s see what accessories makers will come up with!

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

Thats not bad for an unmoded gun 260 and the rounds are around 5.40 grams just a little over 16 joules that would put a hurting on a person I stand corrected at 9.7 ish in grams for the devastators that gives you just a smidge over 30 joules at 260 fps impressive more hurt than I originally thought

[@AirgunAlley]

Absolutely my friend! The HDR68 truly has that extra punch! Despite the “low” power version.

[@kevanhubbard9673]

I wonder what type of velocity you'd get out of them if you could modify them by fitting a .177 barrel and chambers?

[@AirgunAlley]

🤯

[@joleghost]

@@AirgunAlley please, do it

[@joleghost]

@@AirgunAlley 🥺🥺

[@baschii7603]

Would you personally recommend an 68 over an 50? Did you ever test the max power version of the 50?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi! I would always recommend 68. I think a bigger caliber is way more effective for breaking coconuts ;) No, the max I’ve tried from a 50 is 20 joules… Thanks a lot my friend!

[@dogbreath6982]

Do they sell the 7.5J version in the US? I always thought that was in Europe

[@AirgunAlley]

Sadly, I think they only sell the 7,5J version in the US. Or at least they did til not long ago. I looked and looked and looked for the 16J, with no luck at all. In Europe (well, in some counties) it’s actually easier to get these toys in all their varieties. Weirdly!

[@Jjsh24]

This reminds me of back in the day when we would freeze paintballs and be able to shoot 200, very strong paintballs in just a few seconds and be able to tear up the junk cars in my friends feild. We would actually end up eating threw the metal of the cars after you hit them enough with rock solid frozen paintballs. I honestly think the frozen paintballs in a market is more effective and cheap than these guns.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha love it!! Thanks for this, I had actually never thought of frozen paintballs. I surely agree, they must really do a lot of damage 👏🏼

[@nickchuck7410]

Yeah but how tf you planning on having frozen paintballs on hand if you wanted to use it anywhere other than home?

[@Jjsh24]

@@nickchuck7410 I said nothing about self defense in my comment...I just stated that this reminds me of, back in 1999, how we use to do this with paintballs. Far higher quality paintballs then you get today, btw...

[@Jjsh24]

Also, you didn't mention self defense, but that's how I saw the comment via, who legally would even use these guns unless you can't have a firearm. An old school marker, with upgraded hammer, springs and regulator can take a .68 nylon/steel round to 450+fps easy. Not to mention you can hold 200 in a hopper. Old school tech..

[@greyshadow9498]

I think they need to redesign those sabots to break away easier so maybe you could get better penetration.

[@Seabass1206]

that’s exactly what i been thinking because i’ve found the ones i’ve fired already seperate easier and penetrate better, the only issue with designing it to split it it may end up separating in the barrel

[@davemackintosh2231]

Considering it's 22.5 more joules, I'm surprised there's not much more damage

[@MultiSkyman1]

Kinda of thinking the same. Consistent 400-450 fps would a hell of a punch.

[@mikehunt8968]

I have used a 16 joule version, not modified, and it used 1 CO2 capsule for 1 magazine, 5 shots!!! That crono he's using should be able to calculate the exact muzzle energy, 7.5J = 6 fpe 16J = 12 fpe and 30J = about 22 fpe It's not difficult to measure power when you have scales and a chronograph like he does.... there is a formula on line

[@anthonyh3965]

I’m surprised you haven’t put a hole in your AC unit yet shooting that close to it

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahahaha don’t jinx it Anthony! You’re right, but I usually shoot over it or to the side. Hope the landlord will never watch my videos 😬

[@johncarter8053]

Hello, Could you make a comparison between the BYRNA and the HDR 68 cal?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey John, I’d love to. But first I need to become a bit (a lot!) more successful with this channel so that manufacturers will start sending me guns to test. So far I test what I buy, and I buy what I can hehe… but soon my friend, soon 🤞🏽

[@johncarter8053]

You and your channel are awesome. With, a channel as well thought out like yours it will be sooner than later. Thank you for being the best. John

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh man! Thank you so much 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@Egge33]

Do you have a Test "HDR 50" with Aluminium Balls (7.5 Jules)?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi my friend! I’ve tried them many times, but never with a 7,5 joules. Only the 11j. However, I very much recommended them for the 7,5j as they’re extremely light and effective…

[@fabiettoaladin6588]

I have an ltl alpha 1.5 12 joule. Is it possible to power up with little modifications?

[@AirgunAlley]

I honestly don’t know my friend. Sorry! I hope someone that reads, will be able to answer your question

[@Tonysosa570]

Do you have a link for any of the ammo you use in your videos? HDR 68? Or all they all sent to you from Germany?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi my friend - yes I always put all the links to everything in the video description. Let me know if there are links that don’t work, I’ll look for updated ones…

[@jeffantone352]

I think you were loading the metal balls backwards, the red plastic should not be carried with ?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Jeff! Sorry I’m not sure I understand… 🤔

[@terrylegend7669]

If I use 5g metal tipped ammo from the 7.5 Jules version hdr .68 would the Jules go up?

[@AirgunAlley]

Good question, I think only a chronograph can answer that :)

[@nathanlovern5283]

I took the valve block out of mine, only get 6 shots but first few are powerful

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Nathan, apparently you can do something with the valve where the CO2 goes, that will help preserve gas. But you’ll have to turn to the experts for that. I can imagine how powerful those 6 shots are tho 💪🏼💪🏼

[@guyinthesky6696]

Get the HPA adapter and you’ll have consistent powerful shots…more the 5..say like 30

[@johncarter8053]

Question? Have you had anymore blowouts with your 68 cal 30 joule? If not, what did you so to correct it?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Johan! Nope, no more blowouts. I moved my CO2 cartridges back in the house (in the AC) and that seems to have worked. Basically the cartridges had gotten too hot, during that test I did, as I had recently moved them to my outdoor metal locker. Dumb idea!

[@johncarter8053]

I remember you saying that. Thanks for the advice and that was the problem.

[@johnphillips7444]

The rounds set further back and will seat and not move.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hmmm problem is, they don’t sit properly in the magazine. They’re just too small

[@realMDizzy]

How snug should the rounds fit into the mag? I just got some devastators and I have to really jam them in there.

[@AirgunAlley]

That’s good that you have to jam them in. Strange though, as most people found them extremely lose. As you saw in the video, mine slipped through the barrel if I pointed the muzzle down

[@NorthwestAdventurerNWA]

@@AirgunAlley My Devastators fall out of the barrel as well. I believe I wasted my money on the 68 Cal Devastators. 💵

[@jermeyplunkett3744]

Mine were super snug but came with a white nylon ball that's ment to push through the cylinder to widen the opening of yours fell out I can only imagine your cylinders have already been "broke" in

[@grandmenhir160]

My favorite is the 4.5mm version :)

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼

[@gastonlagaffe7793]

The devastators, and the HDR 68 do the job. In an emergency, you can postpone an attacker. 🇫🇷

[@AirgunAlley]

Exactement, bien dit!

[@guyinthesky6696]

With the HPA adapter..the attacker might not get up🥲

[@outline168]

台中有分店嗎 還有活動嗎 謝謝

[@MrNeckCrack]

I dont get the title. The same gun vs the same gun? Is it just a difference in joules?

[@hotflash8044]

Can the Devastator ammo be used with the .68 shotgun 16 joules?

[@AirgunAlley]

Not really… you can try load one in the chamber, but it’s not meant for D shaped projectiles…

[@fpvraver]

This gun would truly benefit from a better size barrel or is that just with the devastator rounds? The poor fitment?

[@AirgunAlley]

Good question. Indeed mag and barrel are a bit wider. Most 68 cal ammo (like the devastators) were designed for the HDS 68 which has a bit of a tighter barrel. I’m sure that slowly most ammo makers will adapt to the new HDR

[@martinedwards4522]

can you explain to the unknowing the difference between joules, fps, and raw force, power?

[@AirgunAlley]

Of course my friend! FPS stands for Feet Per Second, which simply measures the speed of the projectile: how many feet it travels in one second. Joules and FPE (or Foot Pound Energy) are the values you get by dividing the speed by the weight of the projectile. The faster and heavier a projectile travels, the higher the joules or fpe. Hope this made some sense…

[@martinedwards4522]

@@AirgunAlley yes kinda but im really getting at is how powerful is it through translating this... is it knockdown power good enough for home defense will it stop an intruder?

[@themadscientest]

Those local coconuts might be really tasty, you should see if you can nab a fresh one!

[@AirgunAlley]

They are!! For every coconut I shoot… I eat three 😎🥥

[@themadscientest]

@@AirgunAlley Lucky you, I need to explore my neighborhood for free food growing wherever.

[@zatchu1]

Where can you buy this pistol?

[@raymondabrego5621]

Will this shoot the Grimsburg hp68 ?

[@AirgunAlley]

I hope someone will be able to answer this, Raymond. Unfortunately I haven’t tested them yet…

[@jeremiahthomas1385]

I would if they have a adaptor so I can hook up to a CO2 tank like a normal paint ball gun

[@AirgunAlley]

Check this channel out, you may find something helpful for that… youtube.com/@umarext4elesslethalhomedef872

[@AirgunAlley]

Or here! facebook.com/jeff.mackay.90?mibextid=LQQJ4d

[@WFVARIEDADES-OFC]

Bom dia amigo. Como faço para obter uma airgun dessa?

[@AirgunAlley]

I’m not sure my friend. Depends in which country you are in and if they sell these guns? Best place to start is online….

[@_kratos_888]

Hi, you have to insert these Devastators from the back of the magazines into them (unlike the rubber balls), that's how are designed.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi my friend, no you can’t insert them from the back. There are rings that close the back part of the magazine. With the HDR68 every projectile has to be loaded from the front…

[@jeremiahthomas1385]

I just wish it had a exposed hammer

[@thomassieghold2698]

Are you using the standard Umarex drums?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi Thomas, yes I am :)

[@thb219]

@@AirgunAlley ok cool, Could you do a Test with the standard Drum and and aluminium Tuning Drum in comparison on your 30 joule hdr? That would be great!

[@Wienerblutable]

U can make them stick with a bit of plasticine on the back of it that is enough to make them stick, and u just prepare one magazine with it if u need it.

[@AirgunAlley]

Good idea, Martin! Thank you

[@Wienerblutable]

@@AirgunAlley works perfect u will c, u can also make it heavier if u want with that. It just has to be a little in contact with ground of the chamber.

[@AirgunAlley]

Nice!! Will indeed try that…

[@mariuspmi5597]

The 30 joules is badass. I asume is not legal right ?

[@AirgunAlley]

It’s a cannon! It really depends on the country/state. In Europe each country has a joules limit, some I think reach up to 40 joules. In the US some states have regulations, others don’t. Hope this helps!

[@Mash3OH3]

Can you buy thr standard 7.5 joules and then upgrade it with some sort of power kit?

[@AirgunAlley]

Yessir! You are starting to scratch the surface of a very big iceberg :) I’m not an expert in power kits, but there is a lot out there…

[@Mash3OH3]

@@AirgunAlley is there a power kit for the vigilante or triple threat?

[@gastonlagaffe7793]

Very well scripted the intro 👍👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you Gaston! The next intro will be a sequel to this one… and I hope it will be funny! 🤞🏽

[@averagejoe413]

Good video just please don't waste water, we in a drought hehe

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you my friend! You’re right, I also consider wasting water, a crime. BUT! that’s tap water (I refill the jug after we drink it) and in Florida we have the opposite problem of droughts. We have way more water than we need… wish we could send some where it’s needed!

[@Doggterrorist]

the length of the neck on that mannequin tho LOLOL

[@Doggterrorist]

great vid as always

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much my friend!!

[@AirgunAlley]

😂😂😂 they really stick their neck out for me, these mannequins 😬

[@stevenmeansphotography3861]

I think Fsc first strike would have went through the pan

[@AirgunAlley]

I’ll have to try them! Thanks a lot!

[@rick31869]

Paint the devastators with rubber or regular paint 🎨

[@AirgunAlley]

Yea that’s indeed a good idea, for the needed extra layer to make them fit perfectly

[@rick31869]

@@AirgunAlley I EVEN PAINT MY REGULAR .172 STEEL BB's TO MAKE THEM FIT TIGHTER IN .177 RIFLED BARRELS ,PLUS IT KEEPS THEM FROM BOUNCING AROUND INSIDE BARRELS WHEN SHOT ,THIS IS WHAT CHIPS THE BARRELS UP !. I BUY CERTAIN SIZE MARBLES AND COAT THEM ANY WHERE FROM 4 TO 8 TIMES WITH COATS OF PAINT .I BEEN SHOOTING MARBLES OUT OF MY PAINTBALL MARKERS FOR OVER 20 YEARS LOL ! . I LIKE TO USE TWO DIFFERENT COLORS OF PAINT , THAT WAY I CAN SEE THE COVERAGE ,AND MAKE SURE I GET AN ALL AROUND EVEN COAT !. NOW ON AMMO YOU WANT TO KEEP LOOKING THE SAME WAY ,USE CLEAR TYPE GLAZE FOR CERAMICS OR GLOSSY TYPE PAINTS ,REMEMBER A TIGHT FIT FOR AMMO IN BARREL MEANS ALL THE AIR BEHIND IT WILL BE THERE TO PUSH THE AMMO OUT OF BARREL , MORE AIR MEANS , MORE POWER ! ... GREAT SHOW AS ALWAYS MY BROTHER ! , FOR SOME EXTRA FUN , FIND YOU SOME LAKES OR RIVERS AND SWAMPS TOO SO YOU CAN SHOOT AT LONGER DISTANCES TO GET YOUR NINJA PRACTICE ON . YOU WILL SEE EGG-ZACT-LEE WHERE YOUR AMMO HITS BECAUSE OF WATER SPLASH . I SHOOT AT FLOATING THRASH ,LEAVES,TWIGS AND STICKS , ETC. I DONT LIKE SHOOTING AT WILD LIFE ,BECAUSE IF IM NOT EATING IT ,I WONT KILL IT USUALLY... .NOW BROTHER ,FOR HUNTING CAPABILITY , YOU SHOULD GO TO ACADEMY AND GET YOU THE ( .22 UMAREX ORIGIN RIFLE ) ,ITS A PCP AND COMES WITH ITS OWN HIGH PRESSURE PUMP , IT HAS SOME SPECIAL FEATURES IN IT ALSO .YOU CAN DEF HUNT AT LEAST PIGS WITH IT . I HAVE A NOVA FREEDOM WITH BUILT IN PUMP ,WHICH IS KINDDA LIKE THE UMAREX ORIGIN ,ITS REALLY AWESOME ,BUT I WILL BE GETTING THE ORIGIN SOON !!! THE THING ABOUT WALMART AND ACADEMY SPORTS ,YOU BUY SOMETHING ,USE IT FOR A MONTH AND IF YOU DONT LIKE OR LOVE IT ,RETURN IT FOR A FULL REFUND !!!

[@mychar1365]

The 30joule .50 caliber works much better

[@homeagent]

_HAPPY INDEPENDANCE DAY!!_

[@AirgunAlley]

🙏🏽🌭🇺🇸

[@konaboss83]

Does anyone have any contact info for troys toys I don’t have a fb or instagram any help would be appreciated

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Cameron! Unfortunately Troy has momentarily paused his operations - as he’s had a series of misfortunes happening in this period. He’s working on getting things going again and is looking forward to resume shortly, he knows how much he’s needed!

[@jonnymak1079]

Do the devaststors need a diffrent drum... i sall thr zrams need a diffrent drum... 😢

[@AirgunAlley]

Good question Jonny. The modified cylinder for the Zrams is actually made to allow them to fit in length, not diameter. As the new 68 cal Zrams are a bit longer. In this case you would need to make/find a cylinder with tighter slots…. Basically almost any ammo made for the HDS 68 will be a tad loose in the HDR 68

[@jonnymak1079]

@@AirgunAlley understood Ok cool Thank u again!!!

[@RevoLution83]

Salut mon ami je vois que tu as fais le tour des munitions pour nos chères t4e en calibre 50 et 68 avez vous testé ceux de DK spencer ? Je me suis mis à en fabriquer moi aussi en différents matériaux si tu as l'occasion passe sur ma chaîne KZbin. Bonne continuation pour tes tests tu nous régal à chaque fois. 🙏

[@AirgunAlley]

Salut mon ami! Thank you for your comment and I ave subscribed to your channel, very nice content, good job. If I may give you a suggestion, try to film horizontally (not vertically) as it looks a lot better on KZbin. Of course that's not the case if you intend uploading more "shorts". Anyway, good luck my friend!!

[@RevoLution83]

@@AirgunAlley merci pour votre abonnement, je prend note je ferais comme sa pour la prochaine vidéo en tout cas c'est gentil pour votre commentaire sur mon contenu sa fais plaisir 🙏

[@pauloalves797]

top der mais goistei quer revolver forte top top ja deixei olak eo 3mil

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼🙏🏽

[@sanapung321]

Thie 30j version will be good for self defence, that 7.5 j is not good, it will be effective only with pepper pellets

[@keithh.2624]

Not a fair test when hitting the watermelon from the front, then from the side. Too bad. Sorry but hitting the empty part of the water jug, it broke through the other side, compared to hitting the jug where the water level was higher. It may take considerably more time to compare apples to apples, but lets get it accurate, right?

[@AirgunAlley]

Yup, not always easy to say, do and shoot everything perfectly when doing it all as a one-man-band. Further more time is not on my side with a demanding full time job and a small baby in the house. That said I truly do my best to get everything right and to be as accurate as possible, but sometimes imperfections happen. I felt that in the images it was pretty clear that the slugs went through the water jug, where there wasn’t any water, even if my excitement that followed the shooting - suggested otherwise. I did say something like “I look forward rewatching the slow-mo” for that exact reason. In any case I’m always big on letting the images speak. Now, the 7,5 watermelon was a lot smaller and almost perfectly round. The 30j was a lot larger and football shaped. The amount of watermelon that each projectile crossed, was very similar in both tests. In my view we’re still talking about apples and apples. I really appreciate you Keith, comments like yours push people like me to keep striving for perfection. Thank you

[@keithh.2624]

@@AirgunAlley well, I didn't expect that, my friend. My apologies for taking up so much of your time, but do appreciate your time as well ! I was just the devil's advocate ... after all, you deserve much respect for caring to do the work in the first place... AND clean up the mess. You have my respect, and everything in your video was entertaining and well thought out. Thank you, now get some sleep...

[@AirgunAlley]

@@keithh.2624 hey man, thank you so much for this and truly no need to apologize… I’m always happy to get constructive “criticism” as it helps me improve. I have big hopes and plans for this channel, so it’s important to remain on top of everything, in the good and in the bad. Thanks again my friend !

[@BlackAndBlueGarage]

Already?! It's only been two months. Now I gotta spend more money lol

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahahaha! Welcome to the club, it’s awesomely tragic

[@richardsebag371]

30 joules, how do you make it so powerful?

[@AirgunAlley]

Some people know how to modify it to that power. However I suggest a factory 16joules if possible, they almost hit the same

[@loganking873]

Where can I get these in Canada

[@AirgunAlley]

I put some ebay links in the video description. I’m sure they work in Canada…

[@loganking873]

@@AirgunAlley great thanks

[@farhadmasjediyan6320]

16 joule vs 30 joule

[@AirgunAlley]

I 100% agree with you. The problem is, there are no 16j in the USA 😩

[@MrDIAMONDCOR]

How is it possible to get so many shots from 1 cannister???

[@AirgunAlley]

You mean from the factory one? 7,5 joules is not very strong. It restricts the air usage very much…

[@MrDIAMONDCOR]

@@AirgunAlley but with the HDR50 we only get about 15 shots then its empty. The 68 must surely use even more gas?

[@jakimonster8994]

Wait 70$ but you ship First your hdr68 to him He makes IT and Ship it Back or how this works Fell?

[@AirgunAlley]

It’s all over anyway. We don’t use him anymore :)

[@galgadsmith]

Isn't T4E HDR .68 default 16J?

[@AirgunAlley]

I wish! There are two versions 7,5j and 16j - I think the criteria behind that is that one is for paintballing and the other more for “home defense” - sadly in the US so far we only got the 7,5j version.

[@galgadsmith]

@@AirgunAlley Thx. btw I was watching several vids on the T4E 68 and one guy just removed valve, litteraly unscrewd it, put CO2 in and he was shoting at 30-32 J

[@AirgunAlley]

Cool Galad! The thing is, I’ve learned, a lot of times that is not enough - as often you get big power by removing the restrictor - but then you lose all the CO2 in a few shots. Usually you need to add something to the valve that closes it in time - to not release too much gas at once… but that’s for the handy-tech geniuses. I only shoot, film and review 😂

[@guyinthesky6696]

@@AirgunAlley …like Buddha Troy🤓

[@brittakriep2938]

@@AirgunAlley : Umarex company, selling licencefree weapons, started in 1972 in Westgerman market. In 1972 ,denazified' Reichswaffengesetz from 1938 was replaced with restrictive ,Bundeswaffengesetz 1972' ( But compared to now, a bit more liberal). The 7,5 Joule is the , energy limit' for all kind of airguns , availlable licencefree in Germany. For stronger airguns, you need a ,Waffenbesitzkarte'. As far as i know, this stronger airguns are used here in Germany from some target shooters ( field target shooting) and hunters , in Germany the hunters have hunting times for different animals, and in non hunting time ( Schonzeit/ care time?) hunters do some huntrelated work in their hunting ,bout', and have only a .22 rifle with them, for the case, shooting foxes, weaszles , cats , crows etc. is necessary, some hunters use strong airguns for this purpose. Selfdefence is in Germany on paper allowed, but in reality unwanted. In 1890s the highest real policeman of Prussia, the largest german state at this day, hold a speech in prussian Parlament, in which he noted, more and more criminals use pistols, so the policemen armed only with sabers, can' t fight them. The consquences: a) Up to 1912 all german policemen got a pistol. b) A civilian need since then a ,Waffenschein'( Ccw licence) to carry a pistol . c) Arround 1905 licencefree blankguns for pepper and teargas cartridges appeared. Those blankguns had been licencefree in Imperial Germany, Weimar Republic, Hitlerera , and again from 1951 ( 52?) to 2008. In 2008 a ,ccw licence light' was introduced to carry blank guns, and current leftist gouvernement tries to restrict owning such blankguns more. You, as US citizen are informed about ,defence airguns' from Pepperball, Tipmann , Byrna or Hero. But, please inform yourself about french rubber ball pistols of Sapl company, or a belgian 44 mm ball launcher, all break action/ tip down weapons.