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[@ivanpanganiban4149]

If that is from KR solo rank I'll be suprise that Karma didn't know that anyone with hook or skillshot with DM can use it to cheese their opponent. I guess karma is focused on other stuffs on that play and did not pay attention to that. As you've said CHALLENGERS SEEN THEM ALL. I play Naut so I very much know thqt trick since DM arrived a few years ago. It's just that it's rarely used this days I think even in the higher levels of play. Another thing is that I dunno why Karma and Ez pushed a weak wave lvl 2. The Naut is not even using his relic stacks kalista doesnt have that nc wave clear. It's my take

[@Leinnn]

im d3 support main and this video was super impressive to me. the bait engage with the thresh play is some actual 200iq shit

[@bdicd]

7:20 let pretend we didnt see that

[@williamowens2063]

it's nice to see even pros do it. that hitbox is kind of fucked up sometimes

[@lebusch2901]

@@williamowens2063 the problem is that champions and terrain have different hitboxes. So when you play a lot of nauti games you´re used to the champion hitbox an then fail on terrain bevause it´s smaller

[@williamowens2063]

@@lebusch2901 I thought it was reversed hahaha but yeah you're right

[@namthanh9485]

@@williamowens2063 I play Camille a lot and I once thought nau's Q hitbox is the same as camille's E

[@swrena8129]

obviously that was also intentional. we just can't comprehend the reason behind this one!

[@michaeldillman1660]

Support has way more impact than most people realize. Vision/crowd control, roaming, utility, objectives, etc all have a huge influence on the course of an individual game.

[@abishekhmahalingam8496]

wait isnt objectives for the jungler?

[@lukazagi9183]

Only high elo

[@soccerdude9784]

@@abishekhmahalingam8496 Everyone has a role in helping with objectives. Jg is most important cause they have Smite and no lane to babysit.

[@refused-_-8491]

@@Coolrocksta u can prob play better

[@Goondius]

@@Coolrocksta the point with support though is. You still create these chances. Every time you play you play to up your chances of winning. Sure you are reliant on your teammates playing well, but you create that stage more often than not. There will be games your mates suck, and games your mate will be a god. most often average, still with you upping the chances of them eprforming well because of a lead early you create it. as longa s you do it consistently enough. at the end of the day not EVERY game ist to be won, but hopefully most in order to climb. and the fact that you get to choose where to use your influence, choose which lane or follow jngle without "really" caring about wavestates. (knowing enhances it, not knowing is not catastrophal)

[@MyPlaylists22]

surprised you didnt mention this at the lvl 1 renata bait all-in, but you can see coreJJ is hitting the low hp minion the exact same time that thresh hooks him, so instead of trying to dodge the hook, he uses the lasthit on the minion to hit level 2 during nautilus' hook where naut is already commited to the fight since he has no escape with his q on cooldown.

[@adamchristensen9333]

that was thresh bro

[@bears9574]

“Wave talk isn’t that interesting” Uh it’s THE most interesting thing to me

[@freshely9309]

That is insane props to him

[@rickyly3654]

I've recently started playing support and I love it. Although I sometimes feel completely useless XD

[@levizin917]

I would say just dont do sup in silver/gold, you wont learn much since most of you optimal plays require your team to know the game and wave and timing for ganks etc

[@Darkstormsun9865]

because your team is trash thats why you feel useless.

[@ctmm9700]

I need a duo like him

[@Uthael_Kileanea]

You only need ONE of the following 3 things: 1) Climb to Challenger yourself and ask 2) Offer enough money 3) Get lucky enough to find a genius like that in your game while they're still climbing AND prove yourself deserving of their company AND be proactive and friendly enough

[@martinzuniga6605]

That renata bait was 200 IQ. The fascinating thing is that, if you're just looking at the game play and looking at face value, silvers wouldn't be able to understand what happen and they'll just speculate its a normal level 2 all in 2v2 with 50% odds on either side.

[@Sebastian-oz1lj]

thats why it wont work in low elo if you try to make this play your adc will just run away

[@Popmycherryyo]

01:32 tell that to RJS

[@lionart5230]

Minion dematerializer is great tool to use on melee engaging support vs 2 ranged.

[@OwGash]

Eh, he played smart, but melee sups almost always ignore first wave vs karma/8:30 was a massive misplay from enemy

[@pizzamafioso9191]

I personally like to see support and jgl as a multiplier for the team. The higher the over all value the more differenz a good/bad multiplier make

[@anonanon3248]

Just wanted to mention that the instakill minion trick is also popular on lee sin mains (smite). Such a 5head move tho.

[@Slapsamillion]

So I should just randomly roam around to catch my opponents off guard? Got it. Thanks!!!

[@Itachi0255]

"just" ff15

[@allat0nce]

He isnt doing it randomly, he just understands every role and where they want to be and goes there before them. Also when he roams the bot wave is usually pushing to his AD so they dont lose tons of CS/get zoned and can get solo XP instead.

[@terryhopp645]

You never recognize the good ones... but you sure as shit feel the bad ones lol

[@SomniaCE]

Has anyone ever really considered support a weak carry role? I think ADC is WAY harder to consistently carry with

[@justinvonmoss6925]

Vey cool video, but I think my bronze self can’t actually do anything that Core does in this video. I’m still working on positioning in lane and CSing.

[@marcelbruin4582]

Practising that, since 2009 mate.

[@plteltronix7085]

10cs/min sup challenge

[@SomeGuyXD65]

I recommend playing Twitch and Sivir at bronze. Sit in the side lane and farm up, your teammates are pretty bad at farming and only want to fight so you'll get ahead of the enemy by simply farming even if you lose lane. Silver you learn to win lane consistently, Gold you learn when to group and Plat you learn to not tilt.

[@soccerdude9784]

Fundamentals first. Learning about this stuff is good but don't focus on this. You climb to apex tiers on just fundamentals and macro

[@KosstAmojan]

As an adc main in bronze, I've been hard focusing on my CS as well. I'm just trying to average 6-7 cs/min in-game, even if it means sacking my teammates for objective fights. My wr is 55%. Just pick something to git gud at and keep working on it until u git gud at it. If it pays off for me, I guarantee it will pay off for you too.

[@Sye772]

the samira fight would've been insane if he had well timed his W

[@thanujanmukunthan3040]

it prevents them from trying to finish him of and forces them share the damage between samira and renata until renata w comes off

[@starttakinnotez]

Underground betting society

[@LarutanAK]

Meanwhile, in BR server, I get 3~4 games in a row with disconnects or rage quits after first death XD

[@lucasbortoluzzi9369]

support as a big impact on high elo, not in low elo at all or at least not in many games.

[@Fosu_]

Cope, in soloq you'll always deal with the same bs such as inting adc, roams not followed etc, it does happen less often but so is for the enemy team

[@lucasbortoluzzi9369]

@@Fosu_ so in low elo to have a higher winrate you have to pick a champ that punish enemies by himself. the only supp that can really shine in low elo is tresh cause you can lantern your allies when they screw up. if they know how to take the lantern which is quite hard sometimes apparently

[@PoruSensei]

I like this guy's educational vids all the time.

[@hyperqprime]

Damn this is genius stuff here

[@apologarrido2874]

my teammate would literally run because i got ''hook'' even though we have 95% hp and the enemy team have only 60%(both of them)... and flame me because i got hook...

[@rasmusengstrom8983]

Depends on exp, which side jungler is on, item advantage, cooldowns, summoners, mid potential roam as well apart from HP if you cn go in or not, maybe he didn’t because of any of the above?

[@apologarrido2874]

@@rasmusengstrom8983 the enemy team literally has no, summs, we have item advantage, and mid(our) is also advance, we have scuttle on the dragon, our jungle is pathing(on the krugs) on us... and when i got the 2 on super low(i died for making them super low about 30% both of them). then my adc just jump on them then died... he watch me die and then when both of them are low he jump there to die.

[@Darkstormsun9865]

yes, idk about other servers but NA has big tendency to auto run away instead standing their ground or at least trading.

[@emmabrook9691]

I too have never lost a game on the Korean servers

[@mysticflow467]

same

[@sieg3d]

win lvl 2 fight = 100% winrate, gotchu.

[@Zender-]

Nah win every game = 100% win rate

[@coardaoc1226]

hardest server in the world??? a of ppl who played on korean server before and while msi say its a clownserver and even worse then the us server. 0 macro there, 0 will to win after 1 misstake happens somewhere

[@anlasma7942]

yeah, when your teammate says "open x" after 1 mistake makes it the hardest I guess. Him making insane early game plays once for every lane seals the deal and enemy just gives up. Clownserver indeed

[@Darkstormsun9865]

its still the hardest server once you get into higher elos. you have high level pros and players who play against those pros up there.

[@coardaoc1226]

@@Darkstormsun9865 thats not true, even faker say its a trash server, he only play the games he has to do forced by contract.

[@dlz5709]

He won 21 in a row but now he’s pretty much at 50%wr and he’s gm not chall

[@Slapsamillion]

Debbie Downer.

[@BlackLyondreamworks]

Rofl these guys are so good at over exxadurating everything

[@zane3473]

@@BlackLyondreamworks but it's not an exaggeration...? He literally climbed from GM to Challenger with a 100% WR, that's literally a fact. Ofc he dropped down, but he still did it.

[@hacimstar130]

@@zane3473 haters gotta hate not their fault

[@insertinconspicuousname2843]

“Pretty much at 50% wr” idk man, I wouldn’t consider a 62% winrate to be “pretty much” 50, 62% winrate is a pretty damn good winrate, imagine trying to say that someone with a 38% winrate had basically a 50% winrate.

[@Wolfkid7762]

Corejj ganks his own lane🤕

[@fredxu99]

If I tried this on Nautilus my ADC would be pinging my Relic Shield on the second wave going "why tf aren't you playing your role dumbass" while sitting underneath turret and missing 5 CS. After that the enemy jungler would probably gank and my ADC says "ff 15" and goes 0-8 chasing enemies for 10 mins.

[@David-vz4yk]

Ye, pretty convenient its someone elses fault no?

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Absolutely insane.

[@starseth]

This the same man that stood mid and flashed on live stage in semi finals for Na?

[@anlasma7942]

I'm not undermining his insane skills as a mere gold player but really? %100? He didn't play against a single win-trader when famous players like Faker constantly encounters them? Did you check those 30+ plus games to confirm fairplay or am I just too sceptic?

[@DanielPerez-xo1tj]

Core jj awesome dude honestly, I’d be shocked if he would pull something like that

[@FrEaKyFrEaK512]

I think that both is possible. Although 30 games is not a huge sample size. He might not have gotten a Wintrader, but it will eventually happen. Or he just played it out very well for 30 games. Since I didn't check, I won't really question it. Might be possible, but it doesn't have to be.

[@avery1349]

What's really funny to me is that all of this has been stuff that I think about as an adc since I hit plat. For instance, the demat -> hook play is something I'm permanently aware of, and I constantly play with this mentality of breaking the "rules" of the lane in order to find leads in lanes that should lose on certain win conditions. What has held me back the entire time is that I would play soloq with autofilled supports who didn't do these things when I was imagining them, and then I also was trying to only win my lane, instead of just using my mechanics to find leads in fights around the map. I was caught in the idea that adcs are too underpowered in early levels. Since the durability update, I've been pushing and joining invades, mid fights, forcing 2v3's bot, and I've been finding significant leads, and have started skyrocketing up towards diamond. I'm amused because even in d4 mmr now, I recognize that I'm still much better than these players, and to see videos like this that tell me that my understanding of the game really has been on the level of core in most aspects, assures me that I can achieve my dreams. I'll see you all on the LCS stage soon.

[@Uthael_Kileanea]

Have fun on your way up! :D

[@goodtoeat123]

8:55 I guess there might be more info such as the route of the enemy team jungler or the hp/mana of the enemy mid otherwise it could had become a 3~4 v 1 in his own bot lane…? I mean, the way how this top roam clip shows might be misleading to low rank players like me, cuz low rank players won’t know the exact time window for this kind of incredible play to be accomplished (there might be lots of low rank supports endeavoring to copy this roam)

[@douwemusic]

I think he might've been slightly lucky with Karma showing she's recalling right before he arrives top, but I also have no idea if he'd change plans had he not seen her recall. But I also think the enemy just didn't know he would be going top so they didn't prepare a wave bot to dive

[@goodtoeat123]

@@douwemusic i dont know if he usually did this if he recognize the situation was favor for this strat, but if he did, there must be something else except for luck

[@jhonnybarzolaz]

En NA no se puede hacer estas cosas, son buenos en micro pero nada arriesgados y el juego da sueño pero en LAN, si insultan más y de todo pero juegan arrecho, saben que hay que tryhardear para ganar porque así es LAN

[@ahmadserhal5939]

does he stream or have a yt channel?

[@raphaelnej8387]

i m a d1 otp garen and the lvl 2 counter lvl up play isn’t that uncommon. Especially on Garen, since you often lose push, yet when you get engaged on with lvl disadvantages you can spin to trade and kill minions at the same time, lvl up into Q (lvl 2) or W (lvl 3). I guess it s pretty unexpected to have renata apply this strategy but that is something thresh and ez would be aware of in challenger. it s a laning fundamental pushed to its absolute limit. It s great but it’s probably not the reason why he stomps every game.

[@cyberneticbutterfly8506]

Haha this 5D chess works in high elo but predicting rek'sai in low elo is hard man. Maybe if you can tell what low level elo rek'sai does from his body language...

[@thareaper1254]

No 1 has ever said support is the easiest carry role, literally ever

[@ayo76600]

ya they have?

[@astral9022]

It’s literally the weakest and easiest role to play and there’s absolutely 0 arguments you can make against that. If you had a challenger player duo boosting you, you would probably want him to play mid or jg. The last role you would want him to play is support because it’s just not impactful and even the challenger could lose games in your elo if he played support

[@thareaper1254]

@@astral9022 Yes! this probably applies to your gold elo!

[@god4943]

@@astral9022 cope harder. Good sup will single handedly win at least bot and mid every game

[@josiahsmith6987]

@@astral9022 cope support and jng are the most impactful roles

[@mostafamourad]

Ty guys i Can carry support rn becaus of you ♥️♥️

[@seelengutt]

Support is the strongest role in the game not the weakest KEKW

[@shnymnstr5856]

Gotta be honest after watching all the streamers go to korea to hit challenger that server no longer has the same appeal to me. Also tbh fell alot of ranks recently and am dirt 4 elo.

[@mozkuthehermit5909]

So, am i doing good if i have 81% WR at plat 3 by playing top lane at moment, trying to go high as possible with current skills what i have Im not doing anything special, i use sure fire champions and sure fire strats while adapting on chaotic environment of low elo Aatrox, GP for first pick everytime, these 2 are harder to counter but you will still get hard game if you get countered not impossible to win I would normally look for pick in Jax, Camille, Rengar, Olaf, Volibear, Graves and mordekaiser (yes this is alot of champions to play as but not that hard in the end) Winning strat that has worked on me that i don't really look for winning my lane but focusing winning the game Sounds confusing doesn't it? Aim is to play sure plays looking to punish every single mistake, enemy goes to roam - ping like crazy and ping you go for plates - you generate more gold and exp because you didnt go for unsure play ALWAYS AIM FOR HERALD - herald holds more value than dragon, heralds gold value is tied to turrets so going for 14 min sure play strats gets you skyrocketing ahead in gold and exp - dragons value scaling starts at 25 min mark for first 2 dragons but sometimes you can try get those Play for jungler - no matter how good or bad your jungler is you can always make him shine harder if you help no matter what at 3:05-3:31 top side river if both junglers started at bot side - if not then do pseudo presure top to set up invades for enemy jungle for good exp and gold ALWAYS TRY TO PUT SOME MEANING FOR YOUR DEATHS - if you die without getting summs off or getting plate, taking all pressure on you then you just threw your own lane Don't focus on winning lane, you get tunnel vision from this and don't see bigger picture of things, you might see bigger and better plays when you have eyes open all times You might win lane but does it mean you win game? Not every time so ignore winning lane, it is only by product of things Play normals till you get loss - Riots algorithm tries to give you bigger chances to win for 85% of chance to win that game, Abuse this Taking loss on normal will give you "ticket" for next game that helps you to win, it doesn't disclose normal to ranked transition Don't tilt on things that don't really matter like team mate dying or anything - you will have games where you just have bad game - those happen - always go in new game with fresh mind regardless of win or loss DO NOT TALK TO TEAM MATES - ONLY USE PINGS OR IF YOU HAVE TO TYPE JUST TELL INFORMATION AS SIMPLY AS POSSIBLE - so everyone in your team will react what you say MUTE PEOPLE WHO JUST SPAMS PINGS OR SHOUTS AT CHAT - they inflate your only place where information if gathered Take examples from people who went korea for bootcamp - tyler1, baus, etc etc Why? You will see that any of those many players aren't in actuality mechanically good players, they are good team mates

[@user-xm5nu5uq7e]

actually, wow

[@AkshansYoutubeAccount]

when you want to flex infront of MagiFelix but not having time to play 7 accounts to high challanger

[@TrevorFitz]

“Hardest server in the world” … mhm

[@damour3317]

I don't know anyone who thinks support is the weakest carry role. In fact, most think support is the 2nd strongest carry role after jungle.

[@ProfDopaMeme]

uhm 5:03 you say its "completly" intentional but i feel like he should have held his w longer. he kinda rushed it when there was no way for him dying. I get all the prais and i can understand that he might have planed this but this wasnt all that clean tbh. I agree you have to be creative as challenger player. Creativity is what gets your going but still. Dont forget to also talk about the mistakes

[@couds1330]

exactly my thoughts, maybe he knew he would win that maybe he didnt but that W looked like he panicked a lil so not really sure that all the plays are 100% intentional.

[@kintsugittv2537]

You just don't understand because you are pisslow, no offense. But you should not talk about what plays people do when they are ten times your peak. The W for Reneta early is for making them trade damage. It delays them finishing Reneta off until the W wears off so they refocus on his adc. Then Reneta flashes before it goes off.

[@couds1330]

@@kintsugittv2537 lmao im challenger myself bud, and that is exactly what it doesnt happen, they didnt need to "change focus" because he W'd himself at max hp

[@kintsugittv2537]

@@couds1330 I'm sure you are bud. I'm sure.

[@couds1330]

@@kintsugittv2537 lmao

[@ckromuluss11and89]

smart player,great reputation among everyone,trys hards always,this is why he can climb,and tonka didnt

[@battleboss8376]

Look it here

[@VegaIllusion]

This only works at this level of consistency due to the rank and region. I’ve seen many supports that do and don’t do the things shown in this video. Not farming with melee supports on a difficult lane, should be standard practice. Using relic or minion dematerializer to land a hook is also something that many players who play hook champs tend to attempt (also last hitting minion into hook, or letting your teammate last hit into hook). But it is a specific play that is really circumstantial. Roaming is extremely relative. I’ve seen ranks and games where roaming is just a waste of time. Lanes fully pushed, enemy junglers who don’t gank, getting ping spammed for roaming or taking exp whilst roaming, not having a jungler to coordinate with, and so on. All these problems will be a common occurrence up to diamond (and even beyond), and depending on the server it may be like that even in challenger. He is a skilled player with good micro and macro, and those things are definitely important, but nothing beats a team of 3 bad players strongly underperforming. And this video was more of a display where you praised his skill, rather to actually attempt to explain how this could be used in much lower rank games where any kind of team reliance often could lead to failure.

[@dralex1237]

Hello, in italy there are much people who dont know speak english, and i had an idea, but i need to ask u the permission, id like to open a youtube channel called "Skill capped italia" where i get ur video and i translate them in italian, deleting original audio, and translating them with my voice, pls, i would appreciate it a lot, same for much italian guys who would need a guide channel as your, we havent anything like this

[@marcobirra4455]

??? ??? ??? === ?=?=?=?=? 😂

[@marcobirra4455]

caught in 4k

[@nef5652]

Sardoche wtf

[@Zender-]

He has a 64% winrate right now

[@squidsword0]

he doesnt really have a 100% winrate in the games near the start. they inspect elemented out some of the lost games

[@SorakaOTP462]

wow seriously? So this video was just a show off.

[@Darkstormsun9865]

@@SorakaOTP462 well its quite literally impossible to have 100% WR if you play enough. even players with super scripts cant get 100% WR

[@SorakaOTP462]

@@Darkstormsun9865 he had 21 games win streak a month ago.

[@G6GamingSociety]

@@SorakaOTP462 I think you wanna check this out: gatorix.s-ul.eu/AchCgQz8.png mind you this is all in grandmaster elo before he got to challenger

[@SorakaOTP462]

@@G6GamingSociety Jeez dude, use an adblocker ffs.

[@FrEaKyFrEaK512]

I think thumbnail and title is misleading. Just say he has gotten a 21 winstreak. Not to trash talk corejj but he is FAR away from a 100% winrate in challenger.

[@VladTheRose]

Yes support is super impactful, but also the entire team as well. If you have OP guy playing support with great players he will make them so much better. Most of us low elo have to deal with toxicity, rage quitting and mental booms. I watch these videos but it's so frustrating what people have become. A brand burned my jungle just because i did not gank once his lane.... can someone help how to deal with all of this? I am trying to reach silver but i lost 3rd promos because of people hating. One guy hated because of the BI flag and was trolling just because of that...

[@CarterCall]

Mute all is my tip

[@VladTheRose]

@@CarterCall I do, but what is the point if a Syndra support has a great OP.GG. rating and in the game he takes your cannon before a one shot and throws it in the enemy jungle... at least in EUNE, there are so many smurfs trolls and bought accounts it's hard to dodge a game as well

[@MaipuruSyrup]

Wintrading obviously

[@zicknex7752]

straight cap bruh he has a 60% wr not a 100%

[@Hunterwakelin]

Having a 100% wr in low elo support is way harder than high elo I don’t care

[@recklek512]

Mhm i hope tyler1 doesn't see this

[@DaDinkler]

Nah I don't like this video cuz now my supports are gonna try and be "creative" and just end up feeding

[@furryfan1416]

something that would be nice to know in these is how long has he been playing, how many accounts did he try this on how long has he tried this. i dont think it just happened by accident if hes been playing since the start of league its not that surprising since hes had more then enough time to learn the match ups, timings, rotate windows, n how people tend to react in general etc knowing the time hes put in would give some kind of realistic window to how much hes been going through to get there its still an insane feat but if this was hes second season playing itd be something else

[@kintsugittv2537]

he's a pro player lol. Just makes solo queue his bitch.

[@RameoMTL]

There's no way support is the weakest carry role in the game. They have so much influence and agency over the game

[@SaintSoba]

They are completely useless in low elo, can't do anything, no one knows what you are doing, no one pays attention, so you just run around and try to keep people from commiting suicide, but it's impossible.

[@CR4T3Z]

Nice got a 100% rate myself. Wouldn't call it a -

[@Hi_Im_Dominik]

Love it

[@jamespage7924]

Paypal peeps?

[@herolmasterbggamer4670]

asd

[@iFParasit]

None of those play are revulutionary or show how he actualyl wins games. Game 1 ez and akrma overshove and for some reason go for poke when enemy is about to hit 2 aswell. Game 2 he did get suprised by the extremely fast hook after lvlup but it didnt matter coz ez isnt a champ at that point . if u would talk about the truth core jj is extremely mechanically gifted and in korean soloq it all about mechanics over and over and over macro doesnt even exsist in those game its a brawl from lvl1 til the time someone gives up or the enxus explodes in kr ussually ppl give up after first few kills. TLDR none of the examples are any good for anyone wanting to learn the game

[@Asmondel]

He is i high elo so just making sure his carry is feed is enough to win lane. Plus it is soloQ. And even faker that have insane mecanics cant doo what he did 100% wr . So pls your iron elo comments are really no welcome

[@furokk]

Holy shit someone is hard stuck plat

[@bears9574]

I mean the video is showing he has good mechanics but also tons of game knowledge. It’s game knowledge that lets you rank up.

[@th1632]

Letting double ranged push you inn and then all inn on 2 with a long lane to chase, Creative.

[@expectopatronum3479]

Firstt

[@yDnaRraMAsoJ]

I truly think that most of these highlights are just plain overthinking... like when you read a book and the author its like: "The wall was red" and you see a bunch of people like "oh the red means about passion and blablabla" and no, the author just wanted to put "the wall was red". All that "Oh he was supposed to get hooked by Thresh because" cmon dude...

[@SorakaOTP462]

HE DOESN'T HAVE 100% WINRATE, NOT EVEN CLOSE. OP.GG Diuqil and you'll see for yourself.

[@1137Fata]

I am curious and check for the opgg as well, it was a 21 win streak a month ago. You may have to scroll down for a bit.