He's nerfed but still viable | 7.37b Patch Highlights

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@jasonmoore442 4 ай бұрын

Sorry kids big daddy Zquixtotix dropped a new video.

@anthonypeluso3775 4 ай бұрын

I think the biggest thing invoker got was you can ghost walk into triple wex for movement speed without breaking stealth so you will be able to reposition alot better I don't know how much it will really help but it's there now I guess and maybe slightly more burst from stealth if you swapped to triple exort for the spell amp

@sohanbiswas3647 4 ай бұрын

You think that's the biggest change? What was stopping you from doing QQW, invoke, then WWW, and then press ghost walk? That's some basic shit.

@wheatbreaddayz8394 4 ай бұрын

@@sohanbiswas3647yeah but it’s a huge deal due to being able to reinitiate. Imagine this, Let’s say you have an entire combo and you accidentally walk under a sneaky ward and get blinked on, they hit your linkens, and you can’t really WWW before ghost walk. You can Insta ghost walk and re setup your combo, and either kill all, or buy enough time for team to come. If you think it’s basic shit, you’re probably not very good at the hero.

@sohanbiswas3647 4 ай бұрын

@@wheatbreaddayz8394 there's a reason zquixotix didn't even bring up this "biggest change" all you guys are touting about. You're telling me the enemy is jumping you, and the first thing you do is "insta ghost walk" instead of using tornado, or deafening blast. I can already tell who is actually good at the hero. Oh, and the enemy isn't carrying detection either it seems, as they jump you, an invoker, and can't land stuns after popping linkens. Sounds like a guardian replay lmao.

@wheatbreaddayz8394 4 ай бұрын

@@sohanbiswas3647 He’s a support player and doesn’t play Invoker. You think he’s really gonna understand the use of it fully? Sure it’s not the most OP patch note. But it’s extremely broken. If someone blink BKBs you, yeah I’m sure tornado will work. I’m not opposed to 1v1ing you, I promise I’m miles better than you

@wheatbreaddayz8394 4 ай бұрын

@@sohanbiswas3647 if you think Insta ghost to reposition if you get caught out is bad, you’re no higher than crusader. Plus you have trees, and a save item, you telling me you’ve never used ghost walk movement speed to juke in trees? Dust doesn’t give vision lil bro

@shortround9869 4 ай бұрын

12:25 It didnt replace the forced movement reduction, it just added the slow resist on top

@sh3nnanigans79 4 ай бұрын

He missed a few of the “now also’s”.

@drgnlvrrex 4 ай бұрын

I have been playing some support huskar before this facet and I think the biggest thing to consider is that the innate ability makes all things cost a bit of health. So the active from pipe for instance is really cheap for Huskar and he will never not be able to use it. I have been skipping armlet and getting pipe and crimson instead.

@theproblem6223 4 ай бұрын

Can you send a game id so I can learn how to play huskar support?

@WilliamWatrous 4 ай бұрын

@@theproblem6223 how about not doing that because it's terrible

@samuelelliott8453 4 ай бұрын

@@WilliamWatrous why is it terrible

@WilliamWatrous 4 ай бұрын

@@samuelelliott8453 slow. low armor. no catch. terrible without items. doesn't enable cores. only things he has going is the silence and being able to use any item without mana

@99jdave99 4 ай бұрын

Calling it now, vlads pl will become meta at some point, if not soon. Lots of extra damage from the vlads cuz everything becomes base damage that can be amped up. I imagine phase into vlads would be great for lane (though u lose some attack speed compared to treads it synergizes great with the vlads, and lets u fight and jungle really well with all the armor and attack damage u get (which increases the value of the lifesteal more)) Imo those into a crystalys (into phylactery or later Daedalus) or deso (for a fight heavy lineup), or echo saber (to make up for lost control from diffusal, even moreso with the harpoon) or mage slayer for early fighting would be a good third/fourth item. Just transition it late game into a typical PL build, or become more of a “traditional right clicker” (satanic/bkb/nullifier/revenant’s brooch/Daedalus/perhaps parasma) later on with phantom rush as your “initiation” and have the illusions be more of a side benefit from the not-doppleganger-buffing facet (can’t remember the name of it off the top of my head). Worth a try imo! I called the tinker build that became popular this patch in a patch comment section of yours a few subpatches/months ago, maybe I’ll nail two in a row! Haha.

@99jdave99 4 ай бұрын

Having tested this, vlads currently does not work the way it should. Despite being all base damage, it’s treating all bonus damage as “green damage.” At level 6 you get 12 damage from vlads with just that item or with 5 rapiers; one eaglesong and it rises to 17 damage bonus instead. Theoretically vlads could end up buffing the damage gained endlessly (vlads gives a bit of bonus damage, then calculates off that number, repeat), but it seems like something that should be fixed via an edge case (damage bonus always calculated as if vlads wasn’t present) so this strat works.

@YaezLeader 4 ай бұрын

@@99jdave99 phase on PL is only good against Drow where you need the bonus armor (against base pierce) the dmg difference is 8 you trade 25atk speed for 8dmg. so you only really want phase for the active (which PL doesn't need because of his passive) and the armor

@NAH6589 4 ай бұрын

@Zquixotix what do you think about support bb using goo facet?

@sh3nnanigans79 4 ай бұрын

I was so incredibly tempted to support huskar the other day. Either this talent or the heal. But then I didn’t want to get flamed. Been doing naga 4 before this patch. By no means busted, but fun especially with a laning partner like mars or magnus, other repositioning heroes.

@sh3nnanigans79 4 ай бұрын

Also I did mid Miranda with the aghs rush. It felt busted. Then I hit random and it gave me Miranda the next match. Team forced me into pos1 with the first pick. I could 1v1 a drop that had more farm than me, but then I had pos3 dreamt doing no damage and I just couldn’t out scale all of their cores. But it felt very close. Her damage output is just bonkers when you hit the crit timing. I could really see her as a mid paired with something like troll, monkey, slardar, other percent based heroes.

@MyWatermelonz 4 ай бұрын

I have been tempted support huskar too. Incendiary or the heal. I had two ideas. 1. Tranquil, drums, aghs/halberd, bearing, vlads/heart 2. Tranquil, blink/glimmer or force staff, aghs Either need to get in on someone and take them out of the fight like a nyx, soak spells up like ogre/distract cores, or jump in and out while doing a bunch of damage for a 4

@JonBozz6 4 ай бұрын

The change to Spit Out is probably due to a previous bug/interaction where the level of Kisses on impact was only updated when you cast Mortimer Kisses. If you had cast Level 1 Kisses, got Scepter, upgraded Kisses to Level 2 but did not cast them, then Spit Out would apply Level 1 Kisses on impact. This was more noticeable with the old shard where Cookie applied Kisses. Snap was more more likely to cast cookie after getting Level 2 ult but before casting it. In demo mode, you could level Snap to max but not cast ult. The cookie with shard would then apply a 0 damage/dot/slow Kiss glob.

@manuelmarce2544 4 ай бұрын

My boys Jakiro's Liquid Frost is nerfed, but it's not the end of the world. On the other hand, the only nerf Veno received is more on the debuff stacking core side, so it's still strong for a support.

@rainbowskin3379 4 ай бұрын

The only thing the nerf did is make it better to skip ice path against certain match ups. Liquid frost is still the better facet.

@manuelmarce2544 4 ай бұрын

@@rainbowskin3379 i sometimes go QEQE then decide whether to get Ice Path or not, but I usually get it so the enemies won't tp in my face. Yep, Liquid Frost just gives you so much damage in lane.

@Arianoush9Sun 4 ай бұрын

Naga sup is good if their sup is melee too. U should run to them to deluge and u take almost the same if not more dmg so thats not a good trade. But i'm pretty sure most melee 4s will die to naga sup and carry if they walk out of position and get deluge, root, pull, deluge.

@goink3368 4 ай бұрын

Didn’t they remove mana cost on Forge Spirit attacks quite some time ago?

@METROIDKILLERX 4 ай бұрын

One thing of note with the Clock change - No barrier is generally worse, but giving clock armor gives him a small damage buff for a while due to his innate.

@adrianlow7168 4 ай бұрын

Best dota KZbin for meta analysis and Improvement. Well done Z Much more in-depth than BSJ who seems a bit lazy now. Speeed is too click baity. Purge too detailed and not consistent

@samrossi2641 4 ай бұрын

What i love about dota is that every pro who covered the patch said oh i didnt know they stacked 😂

@jacobdelaney9465 4 ай бұрын

Small crits pl? Some amount of falcon blade? Those are probably the most efficient early flat dmg items.

@sgtpatton 4 ай бұрын

wooo patch day!!

@harrys2331 4 ай бұрын

I have a 100% winrate with beastmaster since 7.37 patch in pubs, people cannot deal with the hero.

@Go0se-988 4 ай бұрын

I’m ashamed to say I’m still too lazy to use the iron talon

@outofposition2215 4 ай бұрын

bro after i pick huskar support my carry just leave on pick stage...

@YourServant227 4 ай бұрын

@zquixotix i tried support huskar. Its garbage. First, the facet is garbage. The damage is insane but the self damage is as max hp. Meaning you just kill youself once you get down to 1/4 hp or so. Or you don't use it below that, meaning you are worse than normal huskar. Second, picking huskar first just results in massive counter picking. Every game had axe/slar/medusa/necro etc. Third, huskar just relies on levels too much. He needs to be ahead to be scary. Otherwise he just dies too easily.

@ZQuixotix 4 ай бұрын

RIP :( what was the build you went?

@YourServant227 3 ай бұрын

@@ZQuixotix fairly standard bracers into armlet and/or halberd.

@mcgoo721 3 ай бұрын

Buffing mars to prevent atf from embarrassing himself at TI (hes still going to flop tho)

@casuallycovered2437 4 ай бұрын

Huskar needs more buffs

@aaronlundy4570 4 ай бұрын

Feels like cleft death WD is viable instead of headhunter now. First target takes about 5 less damage vs regular and 2nd target is still pretty high! I used to love playing WD for the heals and it finally feels like I want to take something other than the festeration! I had a game yesterday with 42k healing with a carry medusa (doesn't count as heals since she doesn't lose HP) and against AA who just prevents healing during the fights. ID 7897295746

@jeffersoncastro2645 4 ай бұрын

Incendiary facet for huskar is sooooo crap it kills himself way too fast

@khael12 4 ай бұрын

8-0 as tinker in 7.37 at 6,1k mmr. I think this nerf is not that big

@domovoi_0 4 ай бұрын

Bump

@Thecoolguyrex 4 ай бұрын

Really not appreciating the miniscule amount of changes done to Treant, no love for the best hero in the game. It started about 37 months ago when his native invis got taken away when it started going downhill.

@sh3nnanigans79 4 ай бұрын

Keep this hero out of my games. Also, the hero was best when he had leech seed, invis as skill, and when armor actually healed instead of preventing damage.

@ludovico1997sa 4 ай бұрын

Doesn't treant have 55% wr?