He Sold His First Software Business For Millions with No Experience

[@TheBrettWay]

Learn How to Build SaaS with No Code - www.wgmiacademy.io/ Kieran's no fluff advice is practical and actionable share it with a Friend - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWrSY4GFqsp0rck

[@NateOBrien]

Proud of my cousin. He is one of the smartest people that I know

[@TalkingDonkeyz]

da fuck were they feeding you

[@rag660]

been following both of you since 2017, this discovery of you two being cousins is a pleasant surprise lmao!

[@viv2323]

Do you work together?

[@kiwifrenchie6036]

wow cant believe he is your cousin

[@Elite_Employee]

He’s actually my son I’m proud to have had the opportunity to raise him

[@rasta-topolovac]

This is by far the best podcast on this topic I've listened to so far. This is how it goes when starting a digital product. That's how a person that DID build 🔨 software products speaks… not like 95% of other KZbinrs

[@BlancCarbone]

I’m a 35yo IT consultant, and I’m absolutely amazed by the quality of this conversation. I have taken a lot of notes and will try several things based on that. See you the other side :)

[@thinklet7]

how has it been brother ?

[@notmarcusant]

You know, sometimes success feels so foreign and far away but hearing the way Keenan is able to so simply break down his processes and explain the core ideas of what he did and why it worked gives me inspiration and makes me think success isn’t as far away as I thought it was.

[@cheskasarausad]

Watched this from start to finish, I had so many takeaways. Also appreciate that there were no disruptive ads in the middle of it to take the focus away from what you both had to say. More power to both of you!

[@sarangbhirad]

I started building my first AI SAAS a month back and can't believe I am almost there with my first ever product. This episode was a great push 💯🙌🏻

[@Missingnin]

update?

[@coolblaze7754]

This might be one of the best interviews I’ve ever watched. Came up with a 100million dollar idea based off of this and already started working on it. Thank you guys 🙏🏽

[@NDfan369]

The first minute of your video was so good man. I know you spend a lot of time getting the editing right, and this one was perfect. Getting the audience stoked for this episode

[@TheBrettWay]

My heart and soul goes into the intros haha i appreciate the appreciation brotha!

[@lovedais3920]

The realest founder conversation ever... so amazing cos he talked about the practicality.

[@franciscoa6092]

This video will probably save me thousands on my first app project I’m working on. “not focusing on features and focus more on outcomes”. Thank you for your knowledge.

[@TheBrettWay]

Glad it was helpful!

[@HiddenHistoryYT]

This is super inspiring. Absolutely loving the diversity in content that you are giving us these days!

[@sriramananthakrishnan138]

How I used 100k to outsource dev work and then marketed it to "7 figures" using my already successful youtube business. There, fixed the title.

[@neikun2777]

I'm not even half way this podcast and I've received so much value from this conversation, Kieran is great and really inspirational. Keep up the good work Brett.

[@RR-et6zp]

read more, start doing kinobody ,raed the unplugged alpha by richard cooper and the alamanck of naval raviknay by eric jorgvensen

[@George-rm7yw]

Love how Kieran comes across as very humble. Great and informative interview. Kudos for passing on some inspiration.

[@NowTrendingNow]

It's an honor to have your support. Thank you for your encouragement.

[@LesterDiaz]

Loving this podcast. I’m in the middle of developing my SaaS platform, using no code and outsourcing everything. It’s easier than ever, but it still takes work and obstacles will come up, not everything will work exactly as you imagine it.

[@TheBrettWay]

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[@CamsCozyCorner]

I'm a bit confused, what do you mean SaaS platform without using code? What's your service developed with if not code lol?

[@noorsheikh7803]

I am an SWE with over 10 years of experience. Let me know if you would to have a tech co-founder on your side. Two hands better then one 😉

[@MyWatermelonz]

​@@CamsCozyCornerbasically they have platforms where people who can't code can act like they do and make basic apps and services with a couple of drag and drop features. Most of these software services end up being copy pasted clones of other services out there due to the limitations of no code. Basically it works the best when you have connections from your family or elsewhere where they can give you money or exposure to use your service vs the 1000 other ones.

[@CamsCozyCorner]

@@MyWatermelonz ahh that 'model' makes sense then. thank you for the kind explanation, something about this seems deeply fishy to me.

[@artifindr]

The stuff I learned from this video is massively changing how my brain is wired. Thank you!

[@almakay01]

As an actual programmer who has used the tools you guys speak of I can say you’re definitely selling pipe dreams for most people and obviously your own courses. If it were easy everyone would be doing it.

[@Jonathan-ih9sm]

yes you need to know how to code i don't know what these people are thinking.

[@heikorudi6105]

they say "no code", when it's LOW code.

[@Jonathan-ih9sm]

@@heikorudi6105 yeah you don’t have to be some 10x developer but you have to know how the code works and be able to piece it together

[@user-ee1fn4vt8b]

My thoughts exactly. So much "magic" in these simple business plans.

[@jacobelfrink1649]

Y'all spending real life time... that you'll never get back..commenting BS like this instead of watching a KZbin tutorial to learn the basics of python or how to actually connect apis and make something shake

[@jimmydesilva]

Can't remember the last time I saw two relatively young guys drop so much knowledge. Rock on.

[@luwado]

Dude this guy is a gem. Got three full A4 pages of notes after this episode.

[@nesrinemly1538]

this is the best and the most valuable thing i ve ever heard on this plateforme ,rlly appreciate the infos you guys gave us 🙏🙏goodluck brett in making more of this great podcasts

[@SuperOxygenTV]

In. Game on. This is one of the most inspirational videos I've seen in years that works perfectly with my skill set. Will check back with you in 6 months and let you know what I've done or I'm doing. And Brett, great questions to lead Kieran down a path that gives us great insight into how to build a SAAS bizz. Well done. Cheers to the both of you.

[@rins6126]

So how's it going?

[@YUAN_TAO]

One of the most inspirational videos that I have ever watched.... thank you!

[@tubopedia]

Wisdom beyond his years, this is pretty wild. I would bet on this guy 10/10 times

[@brianjohnson2992]

So true that most users only use a fraction of the features. It doesn’t matter how brilliant we think we are as innovators, “people buy outcomes”. Such a smart interview backed with real-world experience.

[@charliegiaco6905]

It feels illegal to get this knowledge for free, most value-driven pod I’ve ever listened to🔥

[@vitof.4626]

If that is knowledge, then what are books or research for?

[@reidmoto]

@Brett and @Kieran, that was the best two hours of content I've heard in a long time! You two are like marketing and business savants like Mozart and Beethoven were in their day for music. Brett, your podcast/YT vids are #1 in my world and I follow a lot of people. The reason is that you always give such HUGE value, ask all the right questions that I'd want to ask, and the way you conduct the conversations literally gives us a blueprint we can take action on. I like your shows better than My First Millions, Tim Ferris, Alex H., and the dozen or so more that I make a habit of keeping up with their content. Keep up the great work and thank you for doing it!!

[@HSiddiqui99]

This podcast is so valuable. One insight I found interesting is that Kieran already had a cash flowing agency business before building his SaaS company… guess I should focus on building around a 10k/month profit income stream before getting into the SaaS game… Thanks Brett for this podcast!

[@jacobelfrink1649]

Man I really really hope you're joking

[@user-hb9xy9wq3g]

I don’t know who Kieran is but I absolutely love this guy. This podcast is so valuable and so inspiring, Kieran is absolutely an amazing guy, would definitely be a great consultant lol

[@renaissancemaneric8019]

Nice to see the WGMI media vision start playing out here with actual interviews. Good info.

[@IgorChalov-i4n]

Thank you so much guys for this episode! so many notes;) Kieran, wish you all the best with your venture.

[@Tothefutureand]

To be honest it’s one of most useful podcasts i ve listened recently. 1:12:05 1:14:53 1:17:06 1:19:56 1:32:00 how they met 1:48:36 don’t believe lot about authority , the better approach is to not afraid of people with authority and if you find a approach that you think is right do it don’t wait for approval from others and people with authority

[@motivationallounge]

I'm getting so much from this video, don't wait to launch your MVP, First Business Social Media Marketing

[@SamirChibane]

Great Pod. Saw these boys execute on Media Kits so great reference point to hear the full story behind it

[@zaczourbang4454]

Always a banger 🔥 Some advice, tell your editor to equalize the audio. Your voice was a lot quieter than Kieran’s and it hurt my ears while listening in the car. Takes 2 seconds, makes a world of difference. Keep up the amazing content! Your channel is a goldmine.

[@JeremyTri]

Incredible value from the both of you! This is my favorite video of yours so far, Brett! I'm a software engineer by trade. I quit my job to do freelance videography for a couple years. Now I'm more motivated than ever to go micro saas! Keep up the great work to you both 🚀🚀

[@mvthew]

Insanely composed entrepreneur for his age. Great podcast

[@Swooni69]

I have never felt so inspired my a piece of content so jam packed with value. golden eggs

[@fitfuelplanner]

Word of advice: Focus on building an audience and mailing list. I'm a Software Engineer (C.S. grad with work experience) and I coded a web app, mobile app, and API. I launched it without an audience which was a mistake. I'm continuing to work hard to building an audience, do paid ads, and code more features. This is a great KZbin channel by the way, I'm glad I found it.

[@keegan8176]

This was super valuable and he had great insights, but I was curious to know the whole time how this guy is so well connected?

[@jptre]

dude, quality questions w/ some solid answers. Hella insights from this video, keep em comin baby!

[@competitiveprogramming7766]

This guy is too genius

[@LianaraBloodway]

Great Video. I recently lost my software engineer job and have been looking into just what was talked above around 1:15. I have the skills to get it done I just struggle to find the right idea! think I need to start asking around see what problems people around me have that I could look to solve :)

[@jacobelfrink1649]

Reddit. Quora, and other forums are a good starting point

[@vitof.4626]

Ha ha, got so much ideas in my head, but cant do them, cause cant code.

[@DejayClayton]

"We want to get into the nitty gritty of exactly how successfully businesses work" does not reconcile with "we can't tell you how much a service with 10,000 users was sold for"

[@RyanStephenAlldridge]

Man, its hard to express how much your content means to me Brett. Sincere thanks from me way over in Tokyo!

[@TheBrettWay]

I appreciate that!

[@mayermiklos]

This was an eye-opening podcast, thank you guys! Just started finding small, specific problems as Kieran recommended 👍

[@Flips4Miles]

My dawg Kieran

[@BhikkhuBear]

Great guest and talk. Thanks again for the insights

[@TheBrettWay]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@fullstackmarketing247]

I enjoy the hell out of this channel. The guests are legit too, which is awesome!

[@tankevurpa]

We always hear about the successes... but never about the millions of people trying and failing, and never reaching success. And not because they arent trying hard enough, or are unskilled. You simply need luck. MOSTLY luck.

[@mthokozisimyende787]

If i had a dollar for every time i head the word "mediakits" during this interview, I'ld be a millionaire too by now Shout out to you young man

[@stewie9449]

Thanks a lot for this interview. very informative. its crazy that i just graduated from dentals school and been trying to change careers and get into tech and then I stumble onto this video

[@miladsultanian]

Fire! I was hoping to hear what steps he took after finding his idea, how to hire developers or actually build the software.

[@TheWildEntertainer]

Super interesting , one tip about VC funding. Spend time with a few VCs only - means know them , meet them whatever - chat with them and be friendly. Those few VC’s can open their network to 100s to 1000s of investors / VCs - you can even negotiate a advisor share - and have a bullet point list of what you expect from the advisor , like fund raising Most VCs I know invest between 20-500k ( crypto related )

[@dilfui3154]

that feeling you get when you see brett has dropped another podcast 🥳

[@volftsun]

Thanks for the recommendation! I just listened to the podcast and it was very informative. I'm excited to apply what I learned to my own AI SAS project.

[@cullariwardell]

I started working on my project as soon as you gave the solution at 1:12 minutes!

[@kanamo25]

a great content and conversation for entrepreneurs, product management people and in general anyone who would like to debunk the ways success is built over years of experience.

[@jasenlakic5033]

Excellent podcast! Probably gave me the needed nudge to make something I have been mulling about with partner for several months! I ll let you know in few months :D

[@futuretechworld576]

This has been the most insightful interview I have ever watch thank you guys

[@potaetoupotautoe7939]

Watching youtube recommendations for 8 years now. (Basically a pro now) This is the highest value video on this topic I've ever seen. As a junior full stack developer, your click to change app pages figma presentation is not very different from the actual app. (if you don't complicate how you make it run)

[@avgJoe123]

the value of this podcast is crazy🔥

[@trittyclothing]

API : application, programming, interface CRM: customer relationship management SAAS: a software licensing model, which allows access to software on a subscription basis using external servers.

[@EnchantedInkAi]

This was very eye opening. I feel like I'm way at the beginning of my journey even though I've spent the last year learning as much as possible about as many topics in the niches of my interest. I'm working through the training in order to understand every aspect of what I know is needed, to build what I have in mind, it's a lot. Thanks so much for all the helpful content, I finally have a better idea of how much I really have to still understand better. Looking forward to learning much more.

[@PopGhost]

I feel so behind watching this podcast lol... I'm 33 and building an AI startup using ChatGPT's api after working in software for 6 years and sales for 14. I truly wish I could go back in time and try again.

[@razisyed9481]

Hey it’s never too late and 33 is young! Comparison is the thief of joy

[@colesouth]

This was an awesome interview. Can relate to burning a lot of $ on development/engineers without much to show for it.

[@StochasticMCSG]

Only a few min in, so I'm not sure if he mentioned this but relying on APIs for your business can be very risky. You're basically relying on the companies good will to keep the API available, but once they start charging a shit ton of money like Reddit did, product like Apollo, Relay, etc go down the drain. I'm assuming he talks about this later on lol but that's why if you're planning on implementing LLMs open source is the way to go😤

[@MONEYvsMINISTRY]

Of course... This interview was fascinating. I sincerely hope it's digested and executed for good success. Thanks for all that you do! - james

[@carlossegovia7109]

Dude you are a killer ! Best content\PODCAST in the internet!

[@Alex_Cevi]

Interviewed at mediakits a few years ago - cool dudes building cool stuff

[@darraghshiel8944]

Very humble dude, great pod!

[@NextDev-Academy]

I love it! so many valuable tips. I'm working on my own SaaS too, building the community first.

[@kerwindlynch]

Brett these videos are AWESOME! Knowing that the tech is making these software programs are becoming easier and easier. How do you protect your idea and products legally? Can you make a video giving some insight of this aspect of the business?

[@TheBrettWay]

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[@kerwindlynch]

@@TheBrettWay Thank you Brett! I did! I took action and now part of the community! Looking forward for what's to come!

[@NolaLivng]

BRETT MAN! This is such great information!!!

[@proximEZ]

How do you find a new group of friends that compliments your new mindset and encourages you to be successful? I feel like a lot of the problems people come across is that they want to be successful, but they fail to find a new community that they can bounce ideas off of

[@alexBaldman]

For real

[@jss_developer1432]

Let’s bounce ideas then … someone create a slack channel or discord or something ??

[@jss_developer1432]

You got over 5 coments bro. Make a channel somewhere and share it . Ide be down to join.

[@proximEZ]

@@jss_developer1432 I swear I never get notifications for youtube. I thought about it, however, I joined a few discord channels and it's never as I expected it. Everyone is super busy doing their thing or no one is doing anything, so it doesn't really get you to really do much participation and sharing

[@douglachman7330]

Thank you both for such realistic content. I have had some learning issues related to delegation and trust in recent times. Thanks again from Sydney Australia.

[@DannonBrock]

Shut up omg 😂 ha I’m sitting here watching thinking and coming up with my own idea here I am in the Landscaping world and have been working over this idea for years and you guys just spelled out the game plan for me like I can’t wait to get home and get on bubble and then you guys literally say “you could start something in Arizona about artificial turf or cutting grass” I have never been spoken to so directly in a podcast than this I appreciate you guys this conversation has been monumental and I will keep you guys updated on my software adventure but you were so close to just spitting my idea on a whim it was funny again thanks guys

[@eyecandy-gaming]

This had so much value to me. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

[@JavArButt]

Learned a lot - thank you for organizing this interview and making it available to us.

[@eleken.agency]

Absolutely great podcast guys, Kieran’s experience is so valuable. Raising 1.5m with just clickable prototype in Figma, man I thought these times end in 2015.

[@ToddleTales1]

Some productive criticism. You ask good questions have a kind presence on camera. Please stop interrupting and adding extra noise. He is the content please let him share his advise uninterrupted.

[@ymvtech]

How was he meant to get the conversation flowing then? People just find problem in everything. So annoying. Brett is a great interviewer and this is coming from a seasoned UX Researcher who has done several interviews with users and stakeholders in private and public (Gov.UK) organisations.

[@ymvtech]

1:45:00 Nice verbiage. To take it further, you could build a product team with missionaries (your army), mercenaries (consultants), and machineries (automation/AI tools).

[@ThatArtsGuySiddhant-tk4jb]

Hey Brett😊 I am following you since you talked about "How lensa app became so successful" and since then I have binge watched every video of your😍. I even have done your bubbles course and currently I'm trying to make my own app. But I'm stuck like where to go now. even if I make an app I don't have any personal brand nor I have money to scale that app on my own. yes I want to have my own buisness one day but currently what I really need is guidance. You on the other hand are among some of those people who is leading this AI space. Therefore is there a way by which I can work for your company. Im learning UI\UX design and bubble right now. Is there a way to get an internship at your company. I really want to work with you. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY ME. I just want to learn from you.😊

[@TheBrettWay]

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[@nickspisak_]

"99% of people are going to do nothing about it".... challenge accepted... This episode ALONE is worth its weight in gold

[@rogersmj]

Kudos on you for saying “for $25k we wouldn’t have had anything that works” and recognizing the truth of that. So many people think they can just hire some cheap overseas dev that low-balls everything and then they wonder why they don’t have a multi-million dollar product. I know how to create software and have architected/implemented really complicated integrations at fairly large scale. The problem I have is…finding a problem! “Just wrap an API in a UI and sell it” LOL yeah that’s what I’ve been doing my whole career. The most important part of this whole thing for me is how he found the problem - basically he overheard someone complaining. Amazing.

[@okoriewisdom9639]

This is my first time of hearing about sas, and I'm gonna try it out.

[@Greg_Chase]

An 'API' is "Application Programming Interface" *ANALOGY FOR NON-SOFTWARE ENGINEERS* 1) you visit a restaurant and sit at a table 2) a waitress appears because you cannot go into the kitchen and grab food 3) the waitress takes your order and walks to the kitchen and hands the order to the cooking staff 4) you make a run for the kitchen - the waitress grabs you and says "you have to tell ME what you want and I will GET it for you - this is an organized process and we do not give anyone direct access to the food in the kitchen, you have to GO THROUGH ME to get what you want" 5) the cook makes the food 6) the waitress goes to the kitchen, picks up the food, and carries it to you at your table 7) *_the waitress's name is 'API' for short_* 8) "everyone calls me 'the programming interface that our customers have to use to get food - but my nickname is API* 9) your name is "Programmer of an Application that needs stuff that I don't have direct access to, I have to use this API" .

[@phobeyt]

I think people don’t actually understand the amount of content you can learn from a video like this one. Will implement soon

[@vitof.4626]

Yeah, they have no API for their brains, that Connects with KZbin

[@iseulhangul3308]

creating a different source of income in these difficult times is the best thing to do. Not only does it guarantee profits, it also helps you plan and save for future expenses. It can be quite difficult to make an investment without sound knowledge or guidance, which is why it is advisable to work with an investment advisor.

[@lincolnburrows7392]

I have been hearing about expert Mrs Debbie J Smith and her genius mind in the crypt0 market please how do you earn such good amount?

[@anthonycasper9755]

Does anyone here knows how to contact Mrs Debbie J Smith? thank you.

[@hyuncho1231]

@DebbieJSmith1

[@FredericoLisboa]

Oh my God you guys are talking about her, I'm so happy today, and I'm saying this form my heart that she is the realest most amazing person I have ever known

[@anzhela4521]

I'm wow, amazing to see others trading with Mrs Debbie J Smith I am cqurrently on my third trade with her and my portfolio increase to tremendously all thanks to her

[@dillymccaffrey]

Really enjoying the long form podcasts, keep it up

[@kmorality]

My biggest thought before watching this : The hook involves getting into language model implementation for existing models. Create the market.

[@GBlunted]

Your content is so dope... Best questions drilling towards the best answers they'll let you pull! Love how you bridge between these wild next level go getters and all the slacker wannabes too scared to ever pull the trigger on actually making changes to their life lol Gotta get used to being able to envision a different life and making it happen and not having to stay on the well worn path you may be on at the moment!

[@KyleSulkar]

Incredible podcast, thank you both!

[@gailius.m]

I literally misclicked on this video, but I couldn't be happier that I did. Thank you for this top quality content 🙏

[@mirm0n]

Incredible podcast! Thank you for sharing this valuable info!

[@themakiplays]

One of the best stuff I ever watched on youtube!

[@mattshieldssmma]

brett don't miss

[@prestonbreedon5752]

Thanks for sharing this. Really great value

[@adk12357]

congratz to Kieran, great job