[Hearthstone] Is Mysterious Challenger Overpowered?

[@alfa0i0omega]

Is Mysterious Challenger overpowered? None of your business! Stop asking questions!!!

[@obnoxiousjumper279]

+alfa0i0omega there are no questions he is overpowered :)

[@notmyfirst]

+Ob Pavuk it was a joke :)

[@dominicandude14]

Who is he? Kappa

[@roscacosmin3319]

I loled hard irl

[@Osxsar]

+Rosca Cosmin IRL? What website is that? Link pls

[@Korajiyo]

yes. The answer is yes. There you don't have to watch the video now.

[@AchedSphinx]

+Missed Lethal The cycle of Hearthstone continues.

[@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758]

Every Kripp vid ever

[@JamesSonOfBaboonzo]

+Missed Lethal The ultimate SkipKrip

[@Langolyer2010]

Mysterious Challenger is bad. -Trump Mysterious Challenger is cool, but really bad. - Kripp Mysterious Challenger will not see play at all. - Reynad

[@peteypariah6603]

+Геннадий Даценко Needs more EleGiggle

[@MrQwerty999222]

+Геннадий Даценко I think Mysterious Challenger could be really good - StrifeCro Really displays their skill levels

[@Marinealver]

+Геннадий Даценко Its fun watchign Kripp get his @$$ handed to him though.

[@emileriksen2481]

+Геннадий Даценко Legit the worst predictions i have ever seen. Was obvious that shit was going to be insane.

[@Langolyer2010]

Emil Vang it was not obvious, but at least they should have pointed out what power level that card posess, like Strifecro and, I think, Lifecoach did.

[@9476ds]

Have a free flare, paladin.

[@Marco81blues]

+Rexxar actually two one for early and another if they are hungry after turn 6

[@shanedestroyer]

+Rexxar face play noble sac? me still go face!

[@AchedSphinx]

+Rexxar Flare doesn't remove the 6/6. Makes the card even more annoying to counter.

[@Hekinsieden]

+AchedSphinx oh no a 6/6 it's pretty much INVINCIBLE!

[@AchedSphinx]

Hekinsieden What I'm saying is that you'll still be behind in tempo.

[@slashroar]

My dream is that Kripparrian replaces Ben Brode

[@m.k.4046]

+Zack And his entire team

[@GBujar]

+Zack lol hope that never happens

[@Kamamura2]

+Zack My dream is that anyone replaces Ben Brode. TGT + Warsong Nerf = total disaster.

[@GBujar]

its not ben brodes fult that warsong gott nerfd so hard there are more ppl on that time

[@pnmp8091]

English please dude.

[@rapsody230]

Next patch: Mysterious challenger text now reads "your secrets have +1 attack".

[@mrwimby123]

TL;DR Is Mysterious Challenger Overpowered? Yes

[@mrwimby123]

+Mark Wimby enjoy!

[@Nyxeme]

+Mark Wimby you talk to yourself often?

[@Kurlanify]

+Mark Wimby This deck is at least as bad as patron for the game. You can't play control against this deck cause its late game And early game is too good. Also, it draws way more than a control because of misterious challenger and divine favor so you can't outvalue them. If you let them have the board, you lose and it's super hard to play against cause you have no idea what secret its gonna have, so new players might not have fun and I also don't have cause this deck is retarded.

[@mrwimby123]

+Martijn van Schreven sometimes

[@mrwimby123]

+Maxime Béchard-Pelletier much worse

[@dan240393]

Make the Battlecry a Joust. Problem solved.

[@1somaniak719]

+Strappleberry Nifkin damn, that's a preeetty good idea

[@pnmp8091]

Yeah, it would help promoting the FUN NEW RNG mechanic... that nobody uses. Honestly, instead of wasting time on these dumb new mechanics, the developers should at least try to balance the game and fix problems.

[@mauricebackx2354]

this is probably the best idea so far, secret paladin in his aggresive state is gone, but it would kinda become like malygos shaman i think, spells early and some combos in the and

[@m.k.4046]

+Strappleberry Nifkin Not simply joust but: A JOUST THAT ACTIVATES AS DEATHRATTLE... so it can be silenced... + make him a legendary card Vengeance... Sweet, Sweeeet Vengeance...

[@DarkLeviathan8]

A card that rely on you having a tons of 1 mana secrets in your deck while also having tons of high drops?

[@Detector1977]

Any card that allows for other cards to be drawn and put into play, should be reviewed carefully. Just drawing a card in Hearthstone is actually worth quite a lot. Drawing 4-5 cards is worth a ton. Putting cards into play at the same time as drawing is just insane.

[@sommanker]

+Detector1977 Then why did Varian Wrynn turn out not to be OP?

[@Audreyxdding]

+Sommanker because with all these fucking aggro decks you can't get to turn 10...

[@sommanker]

Parsa Khani True ***** Decent isn't good enough :P

[@italoviturino6386]

+Detector1977 and this deck runs 3--4 of those, Divine Favor and Dr6, it''s disgusting

[@m.k.4046]

+Sommanker It's more than decent in arena.It almost makes the warrior viable...

[@lordhuebi]

I main Paladin. I disenchanted my only Misteryious Challenger. Holy Wrath Giants FTW

[@lordhuebi]

i have no idea what that means

[@Supaserrin]

I main Paladin too, with a hero power deck. It's so much fun spamming your board with dudes then buffing them all.

[@lordhuebi]

Blayne Robinson i am

[@sleep3417]

+Supaserrin UNLEASH THE HUNTERS

[@sebastianrahbek4931]

OMG a non tryhard!

[@lothrazar]

Funny thing is that Paladin was ALREADY very dominant. They had aggro pally, they had midrange pally. Shaman needed a card of this power level.

[@ben-bs9ni]

*cough* Rouge *cough*

[@ben-bs9ni]

+Internet Omatic Man, thats how its spelled

[@CptSquirrel]

+lothrazar look a fellow masochist! Wait, I already stopped playing hearthstone ah ah...

[@sionn777]

+BenWhithTheSås Rogue*

[@sigmaantivaxxer9763]

+Internet Omatic No need to swear just because you don't know what a joke is.

[@SkipperinoHS]

1st 7:38

[@W4LT3Rego]

Thank god you're always uploadsniping

[@geohow9418]

literally cured my ED.

[@dirkbrouwer6281]

+sanane banane that moment it's actually kripp himself

[@belivmi]

How can your awesome Service be free?

[@Lo0nex_]

+sanane banane i think kripp uploads around the same time every day, he probably comes in 15min beforehand and just f5's till the video is up.

[@Xelights]

Mysterious challenger : 6 mana 13/11 : Battlecry : The next minion your enemy plays has 1 health. Also negate the next attack of an enemy minion and deal 2 damage to it.

[@ieuanhunt552]

I've Milled Secret Paladins a couple of times with my Gang up rouge. They used two Mysterious Challengers which meant they were 12 cards down. Awesome

[@The_answer42]

I play mill druid and I beat them most of the time.

[@dustinbreakey4707]

The worst part is that the guy is emoting like a douche. It's not like its hard

[@pnmp8091]

Cancer deck for cancer dude.

[@SSJavenger]

+Dustin Breakey I like his emotes, op cards must act bossy.

[@azaelde7838]

+Ysarc i wont play the hole class until they fix it thats so stupid like the worst players can play this it doesnt even need knowledge how to trade minions

[@tehSynh]

+Dustin Breakey what an idiot...thats why I squelch everyone...

[@SSJavenger]

Azael DE I don't play secret Paladin either. I am more of a hipster when it comes to deck types mainly because i despise mirror matches.

[@lukasnemeth4698]

Its a curse to the ladder, forces people to play face hunter to counter secret paladin, what counters facehunter that also beats secret paladin? More face hunters :P

[@obnoxiousjumper279]

+Lukas Andersen it goes like this: 1st day ppl play secret paladin others get mad so they play hunter with flare 2nd day ppl get mad at flare hunters so they play control decks 3rd day ppl get mad at control decks so they play secret pala again

[@The_answer42]

+Ob Pavuk I play mill druid and super heavy control warlock so I beat all of those :D

[@obnoxiousjumper279]

+Enragedguy24 been playing midrange druid for a while big mistake :D

[@Langolyer2010]

+Lukas Andersen Well, control priest. As always.

[@supermalevitality1187]

+Lukas Andersen I play murloc priest because I'm a special snowflake.

[@ArtanisOwns]

22:10 the answer is yes

[@CakeRocketProduction]

The devs seriously need to take a deep breath, gather confidence, and make a huge update, a complete rebalance of the whole game, and leave close to no cards untouched, and think of every aspect. There are so many cards that are never used, and then there are a few cards that mostly just *need* to be in *every* deck to make it the best it can be(looking at you Dr. Balanced). That's not a balanced game. Because look at Dr. Boom. I don't remember who said it originally, but I remember someone saying that they could "nerf" it by making it 8 mana instead of 7, and it would still be one of the best, if not the best legendary in the game. They need to take a few months of absence from the expansion of the game, think through what's needed, and then completely revamp the game. If not, the game as a whole will crumble.

[@scottpoet]

I would rather play against patron warrior than this.

[@liwendiamond9223]

+Scott Poet Actually I prefer secret pally to Patron Warrior. You can sort of try to play around it. Patron was just "If they have it in their hand you're fucked." if you can keep up in tempo with their early aggression, you can beat Secret Pally most of the time. Basically most other aggressive decks can beat it with the luck of the draws. Midrange and Control are just fucked right now. But that's not the doing of Secret paladin alone. Rather everyone is playing aggro because it gets shit done quicker and more reliably. AggroStone : Faces of RNJesus. The name of the game right now.

[@scottpoet]

+LiwenDiamond idk I had a good pally aggro deck to deal with Patron warrior 60/40 win ratio. If you knew how do deal with Patron's early game counters to aggro, the pressure forced them to put down cards they needed for their combos before they were ready. Doesn't really work against secret pally. They just always empty their hand without much thought.

[@Darren_Tay]

+LiwenDiamond Sure... Rather than facing a deck that requires great skill to play at the top, you rather face a deck that plays one card and draws out 5 secrets, essentially 5 free cards. Geez... That's fair to the opponents and apparently it takes alot of skill to play such a deck.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

+darren tay well it's not like hs takes any skill to play to beagin with :|

[@Darren_Tay]

shuvo rahman LOL shots fired! Fanboys crying in the back.

[@suikonblazdb2601]

Yes You can skip the video

[@michaelk9080]

1.5x speed club reporting in

[@GlaceonBM]

+Michael Kaminski 1.5x speed? You're too slow. SANIC SPEED

[@saddemgargouri]

+Michael Kaminski 1.25 speed here

[@presswt]

Something which also isn't mentioned that often with mysterious challenger is the deck thinning it ends up doing once played. One is more likely to draw that Boom into Tirion (or Divine Favor if they run out of steam) after playing a mysterious challenger since it pulls so many dead draws out of the remaining deck so you don't even have to pay that much to put the secrets in the deck to begin with. So you first get smashed in the early game then you get smashed in the midgame by challenger and then after they've played that they have probably thinned their deck by at least 5 dead draws and they probably have Tirion and Dr.Boom in those remaining cards if they haven't drawn them yet.

[@zedek_]

Don't worry guys, the much less prolific and much less cancerous Patron Warrior has been nerfed. Have fun!

[@m.k.4046]

+Zedek Patron warrior actually required combo mechanics... This deck is pure SCUM, you simply play what you can, like in other aggro decks

[@HiRuMi91]

+Zedek give this deck to a cat and it can win games. Thats how mindless this deck is.

[@pnmp8091]

Have fun... playing secret paladin? I'd rather play other games instead, thanks.

[@mojojojo2150]

+Zedek Secret pally at least offers some counter play, unlike patron.

[@NoahWeisbrod]

This deck is SO much more dynamic and interactive than Patron.

[@yung_cheezy]

People that have been defending this deck, how does it feel to be replaceable by a bot? Smh, not seriously touching this game until they fix constructed for once.

[@micaldomlancer1494]

+Pasha From what I know about the game you should only encounter bots that you should be on the same level as. So bots in game aren't broken.

[@malango255]

+Micaldom Lancer it's not the fact they're broken, it's that this deck is so mind numbingly easy to play even bots do well with it.

[@micaldomlancer1494]

***** In theory even the most complicated decks can be played by bots, but I do see your point.

[@pnmp8091]

Sorry dude. Patron and even handlock are exception. Bots were used mostly in Shaman and Zoolock in the past, the decks that required close to none thinking.

[@malango255]

Micaldom Lancer Bots couldn't use patron warrior and that got nerfed.

[@Hugo74390]

I always feel like I’m defusing a nuclear bomb whenever my opponent plays this.

[@Immow]

Well at 14:24 he does make a misplay to not attack first and then kill the second challenger with siphon soul... removing all the buffs it gets + revive leaving only the 2/1 getdown

[@DYFortescue]

Pls blizzard, "Your minions with Secrets have +1 attack."

[@Nastreo]

I don't know if you will ever read this, I feel like you were trying to move in a different direction in this video than usual and it was great,but then you ended up falling back into the usual format. I would love to see some sort of new short series that like quickly explains decks depending on patches or so. pros and cons that kind of thing, anyways love your vids keep up the awesome work !

[@oscartonrouge]

Who am I ? JOHN CENAAAAAAAAAAA

[@erikl4434]

Du du du du

[@The_answer42]

+erik leaf du du du du du

[@alpbaskc7060]

where is he? I cant see him

[@oscartonrouge]

Alp BASKICI Your time is up, his time is now

[@WildBassfly]

+Oscaro300 best comment

[@igNights77]

5:07 You can get to legend with any win rate greater than zero, no matter how small. If I loose 10 000 games in a row, then win 100 games in a row, I am now legend with less than 1% win rate.

[@OsgoodOG]

Imo the card should just be a spell. Get rid of the minion.

[@random_mr]

+Oskari Lehtimaki “Grey” Spell that plays a shit ton of spells, that makes no fucking sense, just delete paladin secrets god sake.

[@bayik08]

+ElDemonioAK47 lol its better for it to be a spell, it eliminates the 6/6 body and doesnt get revived for 1hp. fck secret pallies

[@BelimaiSykes]

I love how you can really hear the salt in kripps voice in this recording

[@FallenPhoenix72]

make it a deathrattle so at least it can be silenced

[@-ali2565]

+Magna Fox Nerf would ruin the identity of the card

[@random_mr]

+assassinforu what do i type here Warsong commander says hi

[@peteypariah6603]

+assassinforu what do i type here You mean the *SOUL* of the card?

[@GamingVidsPs3]

Its effect may as well be ''If you control the board, you win.''

[@WhitemageJones]

It is so easy to nerf this card. Make it's text a deathrattle and BOOM, it becomes a powerful card but not a op card since you can silence or play around it.

[@weihoozie]

I think it's a good, but high variance card. Sometimes they have the board and they play it and it's game over, but sometimes they play in on an empty board and it's easily dealt with if you have the proper answer. The interesting thing is that you can plan for it because you know exactly what kind of secrets it's going to pull out most of the time, and you can craft the perfect way to deal with it.

[@Zureiyaa]

#NeverSkipTheKripp

[@IHazTehWaffle]

that first paladin emoting like he is actually good LMAO

[@Gdwar100]

well i went from rank 13 to rank 2 in like full streak wins. i was probbly 25-3 or smth. worst matchup facehunter

[@Adam-543b]

Me to

[@avolive3597]

+giorgos dimas Get some guts and make your own deck next time.

[@The_answer42]

+Lcwcup agreed!

[@QxDShaDowZz]

+Lcwcup I'm sure you've never used a deck that someone else created

[@avolive3597]

Max Johnstone I have, but not in ranked. I think you're pathetic if you netdeck in ranked.

[@Krunschy]

Something I just noticed is how pulling the 5 secrets out of the deck has another important effect rather than just the secrets' strength itselve. These 5 secrets are amongst the worst cards you could be drawing post turn 6 and by taking them out of the deck the average draw quality goes up by a lot. This means their odds of drawing Boom/Tirion go from ~1/20 to ~1/15 (33% more likely). Same goes for divine favor too.

[@Seafaringslinky]

I think secret pally wouldnt be so bad if it didnt have the ability to vomit its hand and then refill it with divine favor. I would like to see divine favor just straight up removed from the game as im sure its probably the biggest cause of this issue

[@sommanker]

+Nasa215 mmm, partly, but no - it wouldn't solve it Many games they don't even need the divine favor, it's just there if they fall behind If it was removed, they would become more like aggro shaman - once they run out of steam, they're fucked. But the deck wouldn't become bad.

[@italoviturino6386]

+Sommanker well, it would at least ease the bleeding since a LOT of times i stabilized the board and then DF and it's gg

[@tsnorquist]

+Sommanker Says something about Shaman then aye lol.

[@pnmp8091]

Just vomit your hand and play Divine Favor on turn 5. Draw MC and play it on turn 6. Dr. Boom turn 7. Tirion turn 8. All go face. Interactive and fun. #4head #BenBrode

[@sommanker]

Italo Viturino Yeah, it would ease the bleeding. But by no means would it make the deck bad - worse, yeah. Bad? No.

[@webbmd873]

The main problem with Mysterious Challenger is its value. For 6 crystals, you get a 6/6 creature + draw and play 5 cards. Technically, that's about 21 crystals (6 for creature, 10 for draw five cards (5x2), and 5 for the 1mana secrets). By comparison, Dr Boom is 7 for about 18 crystals (7 for creature, 3 for draw and play 2 1/1 creatures (Living Roots), and then max 8 for 8 damage (draw and play 2x Flamecanon). Its really hard to catch that huge a swing and, unlike, the Dr. there can be 2x in the deck.

[@J1ffyLub3]

change its base stats and it would be fine. like you said aggro decks shouldn't have such a strong late game

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

+Trevor Luebbert Yeah, as a 6/3 it'd be a lot fairer.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

+HighLanderPony or even 5-4 actually

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

shuvo rahman The less hp the better. Plus with 5 atk it'd need to be hit by both Avenge and Comp Spirit before you could BGH it.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

+HighLanderPony ha true. Maybe they should make a legendary that has same effect as flare to solve the problem

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

shuvo rahman Maybe.

[@petery.320]

He is a 6/6 which is a 5 mana+ body where 5/6 is a vanilla 5 mana body but it also draws/searches up to 5 cards out of your deck and plays them and if we take each secret for face value then that is playing 10+ mana for 6 but even if we count each secret as .5 mana card it still is a 7.5+ mana card draw 5 cards for 6 mana

[@joonjoon819]

Ben Brode and the rest of the doofus designers should listen to the players. They shouldn't just make decisions internally when they don't know shit about what they are doing.

[@hctim1]

PROBLEM SOLVER: Change Kezan mystic to "Steal all enemy secrets" And then make it incompatible with hunter and pally HA

[@thearchetype8343]

i think its extremely OP since its not a legendary

[@m.k.4046]

+Gavin Meigs It's far better than any of the legendaries added in TGT... Solution: Stop playing hearthstone until they fix this damn fuck social experiment, cause it's not not possible they're so much stupid and didn't predict such outcome... IT WAS OBVIOUS FROM THE RELEASE!!!! LADDER WAS FLOODED WITH THE DAY AFTER THE DAMN EXPANSION

[@Audreyxdding]

Well it pretty much is a legendary because the card's trash the second time you play it.

[@Narutimate2Accel]

+Gavin Meigs That's what I'm wondering. How is this not a legendary? Varian gets you a max of 3 cards played for 9 mana with a weak body for its cost and MC gets you 5 with a good body for its cost + you can play 2 MCs. GG Blizzard design team.

[@The_answer42]

+Parsa Khani but it's MUCH more likely you draw it on time as an epic

[@thearchetype8343]

+DavidTheGreat ive beaten the recent ultra boom in secret paladins by using kezan mystic 2 times and adding flare to my hunter. if the meta is changing this aggressive, im using my most aggressive mid range and am killing it. FLARE IS THE KEY TO WINNING

[@Tx66]

Mysterious Chalenger now reads: "Put two of your Secrets into the Battlefield." Fixed

[@Sefarion01]

It is just so fun to watch videos like that now, when all of the top players considered Dr. 6 to be crap when TGT was announced)

[@richardekman3911]

I think what Kripp says about the mana cost is the key here. The fact that it costs six and can be coined in at turn five and/or played at turn six, followed by a Dr Boom on turn seven is the real problem here. I think an old fashioned mana cost nurf is what we need. Make it cost seven (or maybe even 8? I don't know) and I think things would sort of balance out. I mean, the card in itself is pretty fun. I like the idea of it - the way it makes use of all those small and cheap pally secrets that used to be so weak and rarely see play. It's just too much of an effect for its mana cost.

[@StevesSammiches]

Having a Savannah Highmane on the board and a Flare in hand when he plays Mysterious Challenger... priceless..

[@nTu4Ka]

-"I'm winning! I'm winning!" -"No! You are not!" -"But why?" -"None of your business!"

[@sniperduells]

Mysterious challenger have taken over after Grim patrone, concerning domination and deckdefining.

[@obnoxiousjumper279]

+sniperduells if only it was slow deck like patron but its braindead zoo then turn 6 mysterious game over

[@nocturno9929]

"Patron Warrior is not interactive or fun to play against." Saying this after introducing Mysterious Challenger seems preeeetty good.

[@epithet052]

first paladin: *spams emote* "look, I'm not a bot! are you not proud of me?"

[@TheRabidbunnies]

I'm fairly new to Hearthstone compared to most players (came right after GvG) so I wasn't here since beta or anything like that. So I'm wondering - i've seen a lot of nerfs in hearthstone since beta, but have there ever been any buffs?

[@koralstrasz]

Buff? What's that? -Hs devs Seriously tho,I'd love to know to

[@pppiminnn123]

+King Chen A notable one was the unleash the hound change from 4 mana to 3

[@blahlool]

+King Chen Shadow of nothing was recently changed so it doesnt destroy itself. During gvg, alot of minions were turned into mechs. Druid of the claw became a beast. Bane of doom was buffed to include all demons. Unleash the hounds used to be 4 mana and then was buffed to 2 mana. Abusive sergeant was buffed so it could target enemy minions too. Flesh eating ghoul went from rare to common (easier to acquire). Frostbolt was buffed to 2 mana down from 3. Mirror image used to be 2 0/1's now 0/2's. Northshire cleric used to cost 2 mana. Sorcerers apprentice used to be 2/2. Preperation (rogue spell) used to only reduce spell cost by 2. Power word shield used to only give +3 health. Cabal shadow priest used to be 3/4. Sacrificial pact used to cost 2 mana. Hunter's mark used to only be for one turn. Hex frog became a beast. Frothing berserker used to be 1/4. Inner rage effect was only for one turn. Cruel task master used to be 2/1.

[@ChristinaWintherLolk]

+King Chen Why would Blizzard buff when Ben Brode stated himself there's no point buffing cards and it's better to pump out more cards.

[@pnmp8091]

@ToTen Sorry, most of them are from Beta and before the first expansion.

[@DennyJr22]

What people underestimate the most about this card is that it makes your deck more efficient by removing the worst cards in your deck, making draws after it more valuable on the average.

[@mrpr1nc3]

14:16 that expression

[@riplaekic]

To add, Mysterious Challenger gets 11 mana worth of value and gets to have a 6/6 body on turn 6 as well. Blizzard was smoking the good stuff when they made this guy

[@AquaLordTyphon]

Mysterious challenger nerf: 5/6 - reveal a minion in each deck, if yours costs more, put 2 secrets from your deck into the battlefield. Or if you're Bilzzard: 1/6 - reveal a minion in each deck, if yours costs more put a secret from your deck into the battlefield. Or if you're Blizzard feeling lazy: "Eh screw it, we now have another Dr. Balanced! The meta will evolve, until everyone is playing paladin!"

[@JerryHu]

At 17:21, kripp may have won had he attacked with his entire board onto Dr. Boom and summoned Kelthuzad.

[@Torusbeast]

"I haven't played any mysterious challenger myself." -Kripp So clearly he's the foremost expert on this topic.

[@kevin933]

6 mana. 6/6 + 2/1 +3/2 +Reduce a minions health to 1 + Give all minions +1/+1 + Mess up your opponents first attack. So it's a 11/9 who reduces an enemy minions health to 1 and potentially gets +1/+1 if it or other stuff lives. Seems well made. It's quite on par with other 6 mana cards.

[@Darren_Tay]

Are you tired of losing board control? Do you struggle to make decisions every turn? Now you longer need to worry! Introducing the secret pally! This deck doesn't require you to think much like the patron warrior, all you do is drop mysterious challenger to pull out 5 secrets, essentially playing 5 cards for free. Secret keeper even has your insurance for the early game covered. But wait... That's not all, if you call in early you could stand a chance to win the juggler, muster, quarter combo. Running low on cards? No problem, just use divine favor for the cheap price of only 3 mana! Not sure what to do on turn 7 and 8? Don't worry, Boom and Tirion are there to guide you through it. What are you waiting for!? Call now and put your faith in the light! Terms and condition may apply.

[@TRez5000]

After watching this I crafted 2x MC and Tirion to complete a secret pally deck. Played 6 games straight without drawing a MC nor Tirion. On the 7th game I drew MC in opening hand and decided to keep since I would probably never see it again. I think Kripp put some kind of curse on my deck. lol.

[@phevosmk6309]

The second game is one of the most amazing i've ever seen!

[@avemnevoiesideiarba]

when is see this card being played i instantly concede

[@kieran2416]

An interesting mechanic could make it a 5-5, 6 mana, joust effect if you win the joust put a random secret from the opponents deck into play for you. Or even just a battle cry of place 1 secret from each deck into play for you. Would still be a really good card but not as OP as now yet keeping it in the spirit of play.

[@CakeRocketProduction]

0:04 Skipperino the Kripperino

[@liwendiamond9223]

My suggestion to fix Mysterious Challenger and make it even fun to play against, in the spirit of RNJesus : 6 Mana cost 5/5 Body Put 3 random secrets into play (Any class) Now THAT is mysterious

[@NagbratzNasenbeisser]

14:53 Was my exactly my reaction as well. Had games that went from t 5 & 6 dr 6 into dr 7 into Tyrion, Midrange Paladin can be even more disgusting than secret smorc Paladin...

[@Nesgamer7]

Let's make some elementary school level math here: in Hearthstone drawing a card costs around an avarage of 1.5 mana (e.g. arcane intellect - 3 mana draw 2 cards). Mysterious Challanger - for 6 mana not only you get to draw up to 5 cards, but you also get them played as well. So: 1.5 mana x 5 (from drawing the cards) + 5 (from playing them) = 12.5. For 6 mana you get a 6/6 body and up to 12.5 mana advantage in tempo. Oh yeah, and you can technically get this TWICE per game. Now this alone would already be disgustingly broken, but in addition, you give this card to a class that already had the best early game of Hearthstone (minibot, muster for battle, coghammer), divine shields, minion buffs, card draw engine and one of the most overpowered legendary in the game (Tirion). I think someone at Blizzard should be fired.

[@samuraicupcake289]

A new challenger has appeared! Dr. Mysterious is here to show you how to kick ass!

[@alexg4261]

This Video in a nutshell Is Mysterious Challanger OP? YES! oh, yeah, and there is some game footage at the end

[@pwenkojammy2894]

other 6 drop legionaries are 5/5 with a good effect, just sayn, and you can have two what a secret Paladin can get out if he drops it turn 6: - Repentance - Redemption - Noble Sacrifice - Competitive Spirit - Avenge shit that card could be a 6 drop 3/3 and maybe still be worth it

[@ProtonCannon]

>>Is Mysterious Challenger overpowered? Short answer: Yes Long answer: Yes, nerf pls!

[@BlastOffer]

Is there a talk about 5/6 mysterious challenger? My Opinion: Things won't change like a tiniest bit

[@neonblizzard2468]

What we need is a neutral minion that doesn't activate secrets when it attacks, is played, kills, or dies, i feel like that would really enrich play along the line of secrets.

[@erikcampbell1370]

Idea for a new card: Rogue card (mana yet to be determined) Espionage: Steal ALL your oppenent's secrets on the battlefield. I know the idea isn't perfect in the broad scope of the meta and its rogue only but it means that Rogues can actually be played instead of its current crappy TGT state. Feel free to leave criticism below.

[@justinbradley2791]

What if they made it every time he takes damage he adds a secret from your deck? Or perhaps the Jousting idea, except have him pull one secret from your deck to start, and an extra if you win the joust, hitting 2 for a win (1+1) or maybe have it 3 if you win (1+2). Maybe add in a multiple Jousting option, where you keep Jousting till you lose? Just a bunch of ideas.

[@toddenxd]

love it, smashing it with freeze mage

[@ThatDancingBanana]

Let's analyze MC. 6 mana 6/6 that puts a max of 5 cards into play (average of 4, sometimes less). With the average of 4 secrets, that's 4 mana for "free," making MC a "2" mana 6/6 (if Avenge hits then it's sort of a 3 mana 9/8).Free is in quotations because each secret costs a card, if that makes sense. Combined with the other best cards for their cost in the game (Zombie Chow, Minibot, Muster, Dr. Boom, Tirion) the deck is insanely overpowered. What Firebat said about the minion combat and Paladin having the absolute best stat-for-stat minions is 100% true. When you have the correct removal, it isn't as bad. But, if you don't, you lose 97% of the time. I've played the deck a lot and when I win, which is probably higher than 75% of the time, I feel bad for my opponent, because it just isn't fair.

[@Destroy666x]

Joust effect is indeed a good fix for this card. I'd also nerf Avenge, +3/+2 for 1 mana is annoying. +3/+1 would be better for easier trading.

[@MsUncleKevin]

why eye for eye doesn't come to play?

[@pogchamperinokripperino5281]

Next video How many videos will kripp put out that mentions the grim patron warrior nerf?

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

What's with the hay hat on Kripp's board? Am I missing something? :p

[@GetOverHer3]

I'm going to play paladin! I need a 6 drop! Should I include Boulderfist Ogre? Or replace the 1 health in boulderfist ogre for DRAW 5 CARDS FROM YOUR DECK AND PLAY THEM IMEDIATELLY

[@rtnoobify]

i think Mysterious Challenger would be great as a legendary. just a nice 1 of to remove one drops late game. who wants to draw a 1 drop on turn 10+?

[@Sultschiem]

Well we propably will get a neutral counter-card for secrets again. Like a monster that actually "eats" the enemy's traps. Btw the best way to counter it is control-hunter with double-flare and explosive traps (also counters aggro-hunter) as well as dragon priest/control priest with silences and pyromancer since secret-paladin is really weak vs strong taunts, board-clears and heal..

[@madtisa1]

As kripp and others didn't realized the potential of that card at the time it was announced, I reckon Blizzard didn't realize too what they were doing editing that card. Still they need to be more timely on nerfing, when the community discover some "bug" like this.

[@Haren94]

How to balance Mysterious Challenger? Give him an extra "Battlecry: Give your opponent 'Flare' ". Kappa.

[@shaivo7063]

I've played a midrange version and I got from rank 15 to 5 in about 50 games with about 70% winrate. My worst matchup was tempo mage with 40% winrate.

[@chiepah2]

Would nerfing it to say "put ANY 3 random paladin secrets into play" (generating them rather then pulling them for the deck) be a sufficient nerf without making it a warsong commander?

[@conroypearson5819]

We need to give more classes flare effects lmao, maybe a neutral 3 mana 3/4 minion gain +2/1 for every enemy secret

[@AlexanderHyll]

If you're having a bad time against secret pally just go for the non dragon control priest (along the lines of Kolento's control priest). Amazing win rate against secret pally. Lightbomb, circle combo, death, Vol'jin etc. Lots of AoE and hard removals, had about 90% win against secret pally up to rank 2.

[@SabiVerdantes]

Been playing Kibbler's dragon mage with some sludge belchers included. Win a lot of games versus secret pallies and face rushers. Have to go buttclenching low health though sometimes.

[@33plissken]

Because playing against a bunch of secrets is really fun! Can you hear my sarcasm from across the Internet?

[@imdbrazok]

overpowered than dr. boom!

[@TheImpatientGam3r]

The only reason I feel this card is fine is because the set up it requires, this card will basically guarantee a win, but they already had to be winning in the first place, It's not like this card is actually gonna make a difference in most cases, if you are already going to win and then play this card you are more likely to win, but if your losing or even if your just not ahead and play this card it basically doesn't make a difference.

[@alessandrogallerani7309]

So happy i quit hs just before patron nerf. Ladder must be horribly painful these days.