Hearthstone: Mean Streets of Gadgetzan - Card Review Part 7 - Jade Lotus

[@KIooS01]

Have you seen a Trump video where he doesen't mention yeti? Me neither!

[@alfa0i0omega]

Never forgetti mom's spagyeti!

[@twinkacast]

rectangular shape Damn yetis coming down from Canada, bringing 4s and 5s into our homes. We need to build a shield wall, itl be a great shield wall, the best shield wall.

[@ZanloAstron]

Based Yeti

[@richardc8189]

Elias we need a wall for American trying to get into Canada because trump is president......(sorry I went to far....)

[@drakey2000]

5 Mana 10/10 bois... memes gone too far.

[@luufia]

Cynist + it has taunt!

[@leobold565]

Cynist Ben Brode really likes to give shaman memes, doesn't he...

[@Babyluigikarting]

The meme machine strikes again !

[@0rdon]

Tong Zou because shaman is suffering a lot this year... /s

[@haruspex8987]

Tong Zou yea the rogue cards revealed are kinda lame compared to what the other classes got this expansion

[@wolgercon]

I'm so glad Shaman is finally being shown some love. There current cards are too under powered. 4 mana 7/7 and 0 mana 5/5s with taunt. They really needed a 5 mana 10/10 with taunt.

[@gardenrabbit3565]

Tbh they just need another weapon and cheap aoe to finally be competitive

[@thor6485]

With the new expansion I think TGT cards will be rolled out right ? That means goodbye to the 0 mana 5/5 and the 4 mana 7/7. Not that either are op, I don't even play the 4 mana 7/7 in my midrange shaman deck.

[@Nachtmareirl]

Thor6 not till the next expansion in Jan /Feb. And the 7/7 is a tog card...

[@thor6485]

Also the 7/7 is not that good in a deck with the new legendary because you would want to drop it on turn 5, the 7/7 locks 2 of your mana cristals on turn 4.

[@IzayaV]

Mr. Brightside this made me laugh so hard , GDI I hate shamans..

[@DenisCavalcantiMartins]

From the creators of 4 mana 7/7, here comes 5 mana 10/10 Taunt! Well i will play control Shaman for sure!

[@syn13x71]

The Black Knight sends his regards

[@DenisCavalcantiMartins]

Syn13x I hope at least Four of them or more. Because, this thing can go easy in N'Zoth Control Shaman with Sylvanas and Cairne... and another deathrattle.

[@DanH11]

I think it'll fit into midrange, too. Trump already said this but a 5 mana 5/5 taunt is already pretty good. In general, most taunts start becoming better around turn 5 due to the prevalence of aggro. Granted, It's only OP if you manage to get to The Storm Guardian before the game ends which will be difficult to do, but the problem with most OP cards that're difficult to make work is that they're usually weak when it doesn't go as planned. That's not the case for this card. I think it'll see a lot of play across multiple deck archetypes.

[@tonyjpotts]

i don't think it will fit into midrange shaman because as Trump said on average storm guardian will be in the last 8 cards of your deck. The current midrange shaman has won or lost the game by then meaning most of the time you just get a 5 mana 5/5 taunt which is way too fair of a card to run in a midrange shaman deck.

[@thane732]

Firelands Portal.

[@catshot4261]

The fact that the cards say "Summon a Jade golem" but the card itself is "jadegolem" bothers me a lot.

[@Linkfan001]

Same. Blizzard, pls.

[@leetri]

Fits right in with all the other inconsistencies this game has.

[@parak00pa]

OCD-Stone, Heroes of Consistency

[@leetri]

parak00pa They dropped the "Heroes of Warcraft" tagline apparently, it's just "Hearthstone" now.

[@benraiders998]

Catshot brode tweeted that it was a misspell

[@leetri]

That Black Knight I unpacked a couple months ago is starting to look real good about now.

[@dusty8607]

I wonder who looked at the Naga fight in the league of explorers and thought. "Shit I better make Druid, Rogue and Shaman play exactly like this for a few years."

[@dorjjodvo1992]

Dusty "rouge"

[@SonofKiernan]

@Doni Bathuu Incorrect.

[@marioalmanza32]

I can already see shamans playing Jade Claws for 2 mana and summoning a 7/7 jade goldem

[@SilvaaFabio]

Oh shit I got power creeped.

[@dominicbergheim937]

You better switch places NOW

[@korz7501]

you mean when you play it ? it says "need a light?"

[@asurastorm8566]

Jason I always thought he said "In the light" However, I've heard others says it's "Need a light"

[@TheHalogen131]

MEME streets of Gadgetzan!

[@AwkwardSquirtles]

Surely that should be "power crept"?

[@Mathmachine]

5:26 I feel like this is how the Blizzard staff meeting went when they made this card in general as well.

[@DarthAndrew520]

n'zoth white eyes

[@closotezuka]

having a big taunt with a death rattle is a BIG DEAL in nzoth decks, so even without stormg guardian, it's pretty good.

[@MayraCma]

+tygonmaster if infested tauren is played in n'zoth decks, a n'z shaman will include this card 122% of the time

[@MayraCma]

+tygonmaster i know xD i just stated that, imo, white eyes will be an auto include in nz shaman if that is ever a thing

[@closotezuka]

tygonmaster they're both big taunts, storm guardian is just a bigger taunt

[@Nightknight1992]

many nzoth decks play a 7 mana 6-6 taunt just for the fact of it being a taunt, so this should be in 100% of nzoth shaman decks. (idea is immediate board effects are important for 10 mana cards, and taunt does that)

[@wnsctt2]

New Shaman: Assuming the opponent didn't concede already. Turn 1 trogg. Turn 2 Jade Claws. Turn 3 Mana Tide totem.Turn 4 coin White eyes. Turn 5 play a 5 mana 10/10. Turn 6 FIre Elemental. Turn 7 Call the finishers and Everyfin is Awesome. Turn 8 Rag. Turn 9 Alextraza. Turn 10 Deathwing.

[@politegentleman8476]

you overload for 1 with Jade Claws so you cant play Manatide Totem on curve.

[@corporal_cake8328]

That's ingenious. Get a huge board of 3/3 murlocs, Ragnaros and Alex and then clear it as well as the rest of your hand which is probably full from the mana tide totem by playing Deathwing!

[@Nightknight1992]

that curve would rarely even win in arena.

[@gooblop]

If you don't think a 10/10 taunt would help you win on turn 5 when you've had a strong turn 1, 2, and 4 play, you don't know what you're talking about.

[@Nightknight1992]

***** its the only thing on that curve that needed hard removal, turn 2 was weak, turn 3 was weak and not even possible with overload.

[@Ricochet1665]

Gadgetzan Ferryman could have also reduced the target minion by 1 mana when it returns it, to be good at least

[@pedroz3891]

I like the feeling that the classes are getting. Like rogues being all stealthy and burgly. (even tho it the decks looks kinda bad for now) Gives more personality to the class, other than just having some unique minions

[@toofargonenow7217]

This review seems a bit jaded

[@the_bigted]

TooFarGoneNow BOO!!!!!

[@Kilioh15]

TooFarGoneNow Jerbaited

[@Wolfyowns]

Idk why Virmen Sensei isn't a beast >.> It's a rabbit, COME ON!!! lol

[@wenigmehl]

well, neither are worgen - or pandaren, i guess the rule of thumb is - can it talk? it's not a beast ^^ parrots excluded

[@xxx_mlg_c0u7_xxx88]

But But what about the Kindly Grandmother ;-;

[@wenigmehl]

XxX_MLG_$c0u7_XxX she's actually a parrot.

[@justanotherface6695]

The better to repeat your sentences with.

[@keithwu5825]

Virmens, pandarans, hozens, jinyus, and virmens are all creatures that are humanoid beasts, not 100% beast.

[@Niiice2198]

Imagine playing against a Mage who casts firelands portal, and gets a fucking 10/10 with taunt lol

[@lemondude6174]

Niiice2198 won't happen since it's an uncollectible card...but one can dream. lol

[@ibmason1]

the 7/8 taunt from firelands is scary enough.

[@lemondude6174]

ibmason1 Well at least they can get dopplegangster now Or bomb squad

[@CAMERONJTC97]

Lemondude617 they can get white eyes

[@bentakata3428]

Does it slightly trigger anyone else that it's 2 words "Jade Golem" in card descriptions, but the actual card is 1 word "Jadegolem" ?

[@morscoronam3779]

Ben Takata Yes, just like Kabal Lackey vs Kirin tor Mage card texts.

[@SJLaxative]

Shaman next expansion: 6 Mana 20/20 Divine Sheild Deathrattle: Resummon this minion

[@BlueRiging]

*Battlecry: Discard the opponents Face

[@IzayaV]

Nicholas Gauthier Don't forget windfury

[@lolwutman]

Still can't kill a control warrior.

[@SuperSpamcan]

I think White Eyes would be interesting in N'zoth Shaman.

[@limkx6613]

Ryan Gillen i think white eyes will be interesting in all shamans, who doesnt like a 10/10 for 5 mana

[@SuperSpamcan]

lim kx I dunno. I'm a tad bit skeptical that it's an auto-include. Yeah it's powerful, but it's also slow and somewhat inconsistent. First you need to play White Eyes, then it needs to die, then you need to draw Storm Guardian and play it. It could be your next card, or it could be your last card. Also as someone pointed out to me the 5 10/10 it's self is also slow and vulnerable to removal, especially since the opponent knows it's coming. It could be powerful if the meta slows down by a good amount. Which it very well might.

[@davidkelly132]

10 mana 15/15 *

[@morscoronam3779]

Ryan Gillen Would make it super favored in fatigue matchups. That would that be 30/30 total stats across 4 durable bodies, ideally. That all packed into one card slot plus how it slows any possible fatigue by 2 turns would make it a nasty control deck.

[@ZeroNumerous]

White Eyes is an auto-include, because it forces bad decisions from your opponent. If you're going to remove White Eyes, then you're not removing Rag, Thing, Thunder Bluff, or the Fire Ele. The only reason White Eyes won't see play is because it's competing with all of the above for deck space, and there's simply not enough deck space in Midrange Shaman right now. Maybe after rotation you'll see White Eyes + another 5 being run instead of Thunder Bluff.

[@graveeking]

For everyone looking at just raw stats at the shaman legendary. Even when it 'works' it is at least a 10 mana 15/15 with taunt that is a two card 'combo'. Pretty sure you could do similar with two current cards in the meta if you tried hard enough. This is all topped off by the fact that this cards effect is death-rattle not battlecry. Entomb, transforms, heck silences, even mirror image will be so bad for you, you'll feel like you've been playing an arena card all along. Like it's OK and will see play but it isn't even near as broken as it sounds. The fact is - if you're waiting so long to draw the 'good' half of the card, that you reach 10 mana and you're in a top decking wars and it's the only card in your hand then you just effectively played a 10 mana 10/10, which isn't played right now. ( 8 mana 10/10 if you consider hero power). And is everyone is saying, black knight is a thing and will roll all over this card.

[@morscoronam3779]

graveeking Wasn't sure if people like you existed, thought I was spamming similar points to calm people's easily meme-able minds all by myself.

[@graveeking]

Mors Coronam N'aw. I think it's just a lot of people have gone up against so many shamans the moment they see something like this they panic. On the bright side this sort of card would almost certainly be in a slower-paced shaman deck, so even if it does make shamans even -more- popular, people should be happy it'll no longer the borderline aggro levels of face it was before.

[@KorboQ]

8 mana 10/10s aren't in play right now, but if we're talking about 10 mana top decking, would you rather have an 8 mana 10/10 or any other card that's currently in midrange shaman? You're looking at it in the wrong of vacuum.

[@graveeking]

*****  I mean true. But it also lacks active effects - on the turn it comes out it does nothing. Which is the main reason people play high-cost cards, it has to do something brutally OP to justify being such a high cost. S'shaarj, N'zoth, Ysera, Alextraza - they all do something immediately useful or generate such a colossal amount of threat they win the game if they stay on the board by their ability's alone. Even Soggoth is at least immune to spells. None of these are run in mid-range shaman right now (yes I know some are very situational). The main advantage to this new card is that you'll -never- get it too early, but that's all it has going for it. If it was a 5 mana play it on turn 5/6/7 guaranteed then yeah - that's fucking incredible and would slaughter aggro. However realistically it'll be a late game play where you'd just rather have late game cards that do something besides just eating a far cheaper removal. But if you want late-game pay off in stats that eats removal then you may as well be running the new jade deck by the looks of things. In fact for that reason I see this card as better against control decks, because it makes them use -two- removals for 'one' card in the deck. But if it's against control, then the taunt is near worthless so you're left with a boring old 10/10 and if you wanted a generic high-stat minion that does nothing, you'd be playing giants of some kind instead, or heck! War-golem or boulder-fist ogre. Mid-range is just that, mid-range. If you look at trumps list the only card he has above 7 cost (I count bloodhoof as a 7 drop) is Rag - which does something -immediately-. So don't get me wrong I see where you're coming from but this card -is- a late game card, would a deck that by its very name is best in the -mid- game, want to run late game? Especially considering this is a card that slows down its mid-game tempo. 5 Mana 5/5 do nothing (until later) ? Compared to all the other shaman cards right now? What would you even remove to replace it? IF it sees use, it'll be in a control shaman deck, not the current mid-range I reckon.

[@OytheGreat]

I've no idea why people think this card is fantastic either. As soon as I saw it I knew it was pretty shit. It would be great only in control warrior. Tempo is the name of the game otherwise, unfortunately. And this card is pure control.

[@Abrexfroman]

I like how positive you are about these cards

[@gtv9744]

While I know in the end he said white eyes is good, I still want to comment that it is basically an elise that is easier to play because you only have to play one card that is also on curb and draw one card compared to elise's play one card and draw two.

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

4 mana 7/7 Now 5 mana 10/10 What the hell is Blizzard doing!

[@huuminbloodborn7570]

+no overload

[@arbikiuszelemelek3347]

They want to call it Shamanstone now

[@Braindizruptor]

insert ben brode laugh here

[@LlorracTN]

Shane Okakpu doesn't have overload 2. Therefore it Doesn't buff tunnel trogg, probably not constructed worthy kappa

[@rejoice182]

Seems a bit weak tbh

[@komradekontroll]

5 mana 10/10 I haven't seen this much contempt for your fanbase since I pulled a gold am'gam rager

[@astodone9022]

Oh boy can't wait for Firelands Portal to spawn me some Storm Guardians XDDDD Fking balanced

[@Illianor123]

Asto Done it will spawn White Eyes. The Storm Guardian isn't collectible and so isn't a valid target for it.

[@astodone9022]

Illianor123 Still, Storm Guardian comes from a deathrattle effect from White Eyes, if it spawns White Eyes then I'll still get Storm Guardian.

[@Illianor123]

Yes, in the end you might get the Storm Guardian, but it stil requires more effort than if the firelands portal randomly could summon a 10/10 taunt. I have no idea what Cutpurse is going on about. Firelands can only spawn White Eyes (which then can give you the deathrattle effect of shuffiling a storm guardian intot he deck).

[@morscoronam3779]

Asto Done Hope you get bomb squad instead 😋.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Asto Done you cant get the 10-10 taunt, its a uncollectible card

[@ewanwalker5967]

Why is jinyu a thing? Shamans have been so dominant, and now they get a bonkers healbot for even more consistency. They didn't need more healing. Healing wave even when you miss the joust is still okay, but now for 5+1 mana you get 8 health and a body.

[@MayraCma]

maybe blizzard is looking forward, in the next expansion a lot of powerful shaman cards will rotate out of standar, so with this cards shaman can still be useful (and let's hope, not as powerful) and they can focus on other classes in the next expansion

[@littlebigphil]

Dopplegangster can't be played in shaman right?

[@ewanwalker5967]

littlebigphil its part of the grimy goon faction so paladin/warrior/hunter only.

[@secretjingrui]

dopplegangster is a neutral not a tri-class card so yes it can be played im more looking forward to seeing doppelganster evolve into 3 1/1s

[@Nightknight1992]

4+1 mana, 6 health*

[@Itama22]

That 2 Mana 2/3 will be one of the best support Cards for the Rogue Jade Golem Deck. Along with all the other bounce effects, Rogue will be able, to get out huge Jade Golems faster than Druid or Shaman. One has to see, if the Jade Golem Deck is good enough, but i think Rogue will have the best Jade Golem Deck... or the only viable one :p

[@JabariNuruddin]

wubba lubba dub dub.

[@peejaytocoolm.c.6277]

Ricky and Morty

[@TripeDemo]

take a painkiller

[@Milkman69ner]

I feel like that's what blizzard are saying all the time

[@WakkaFloppa]

I am in great pain

[@PraetorianCuber]

BindeDSA JABARI PLAYS HEARTHSTONE!!? nice OH average btw

[@nayradinnaynay99]

Yes!!!! Let this glorious shaman era never end!!!!

[@OddMobileWatcher]

Shadow Sensei could be used with conceal. That would be one of those situation where you really have to have the both cards if you don't have many good stealth minions.

[@Thrakgul]

Another imba weapon and a strong heal ... exactly what poor shaman needed -.-

[@Formulka]

let's not forget the bullshit legendary

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Thrakgul they are preparing for the rotation, shaman needs good cards to b relevant after rotation

[@morscoronam3779]

Thrakgul Jade Claws is only good in a Jade Golem deck which means kicking out 4 to 6 (maybe more) of the current "imba" shaman cards and a shift to a mid-late game deck. Frankly, Spirit Claws will always be better in aggro shaman. Similar for the heal, forces a late game deck strategy. Not good for aggro which means massive changes to present shaman deck lists (and overall strategy) to be useful.

[@poodlesftw123]

How often do you play Elise and don't get the map? You're always gonna draw the 10/10 if you have a deck built for that. This is gonna bring back ancestral spirit

[@asafchen2088]

You do that in control decks. Shaman don't currently have a viable control deck, and this card pushes it to that direction, which is nice.

[@Miketo2000]

All things aside, I do like how the artwork for the Jade Golem changes when its stats increase.

[@knitifine]

I believe in the case of Jade Behemoth, you will end up wanting one unless the metagame shifts to heavy control, in which case two will be fine with Aya (who is obviously an auto include in Jade Golem decks)

[@HyperManic1000]

I saw this stream... Good job making it a KZbin video, Jens

[@AntoineBandele]

Notification squad! Can't wait to try out a Jade Golem deck.

[@applekingdom5541]

What do you Guys Think??? " N'Zoth Shaman??? Sylvannas, Cairne, White eyes???? Would that work out in standard?

[@R0DisG0D]

That's gonna be fine. It's not like he works better with N'Zoth than Tirion.

[@applekingdom5541]

Indeed yeah, but I see the potential growing

[@R0DisG0D]

Apple Kingdom Misinterpreted your comment as something stronger. A lot of people were raving how broken this card would be and I falsely put you into that category. Agree that N'Zoth Shaman could work and it would definitely include this card.

[@GrimRohStah]

The only downside to Shadow Sensei, is that the card text reads ' Give a Stealth minion +2/+2. ' This means you can't play it for tempo in some cases. If your opponent has a stealth minion and you want to play this card, you'll have to give it +2/+2.

[@Schmidteren]

There will be so much aoe. Jade Golems can be a good deck, insane value minion vise later on. Then a couple of assasinates etc against control Cthun.

[@AnArmyOfFish]

Consider the Jade behemoth like thunderbluff valiant if and when you play it on an empty board as a 7 drop. 7 drop 3/6 plus 2/2. Now, this is a 6 drop, and, just like thunderbluff, has the potential for more value, although the value is slower.

[@InvisibleBike0512]

@Trump You should put all of the "Mean Streets" card reviews into a playlist so that they can be easily viewed in succession. Its nice to be able to review each one without having to search too much.

[@toniconge7003]

I will say from trying to play 3 Thun decks that White Eyes might just not "die" a lot being it's biggest issue in those control long games it would be great in. Luckily for Shaman it's not as big a wincondition as C'thun 2 and 3.

[@ricardomaciel2955]

elise starseeker does somthing similar and yet the map is genereally drawn much later in the game (for what i've seen, when she is played on curve) and its a battlcry.

[@ricardomaciel2955]

or even better so many times i've played forgotten torch to not even draw the roaring torch

[@12Rman21]

about the entire x card in your deck discussion, thats exactly what you said about elise and that was worse. And Elise saw and sees alot of play.

[@KeepitShredda]

The question then becomes: do you play White Eyes in the same deck as Elise? If yes then Trump's argument isn't as valid, but I feel like Elise fills a role that centers around the super late-game, whereas White Eyes does not.

[@12Rman21]

well, I think will function in control.

[@ammo1317]

Keep in mind that Elise is a neutral card. Does Elise see play in shaman?

[@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin]

I think the point Trump was trying to make was "is this card good enough to fit in the current mid-range deck that everyone and their grandmother is playing?" which is why its important to keep when you are going to draw it in mind. Unlike control warrior and similar decks which run elise, mid-range shaman doesn't TRY to go to those ultra late game scenarios.

[@tcoren1]

12Rman21 but elise is mainly used for fatigue and in that case you are guaranteed to reach the golden monkey

[@kay486]

what happens when you return a jade golem to your hand? what stats will it have?

[@sayftarek9326]

kay486 same stats

[@DCPTF2]

kay486 the higher it's attack gets the more mana it will cost up to ten

[@Joe90h]

I believe each instance of a jade golem is a unique 'token', rather than just being 1/1s that get stat boosted. That's why they have escalating mana costs. A good question, though, is what would the next Jade Golem be? If you play a 3/3 Jade Golem from your hand, does the count increase so the next card that makes one makes a 5/5? I doubt it, but Silly Blizzard are always so very vague with their wording.

[@sayftarek9326]

Joe Homer no if you get your 4/4 sapped it will be replayed as a 4/4

[@Joe90h]

Sayf Tarek I know. That's what I said. If you read more carefully, I was talking about the fact that the mechanic details each jade golem summoned makes the next one you summon bigger, so theoretically playing one from your hand should increase the count by one.

[@MegaHardSnow]

Notice how white eyes in N'Zoth shaman will just win control matchups, hyped!

[@MrVoldi7]

Both the Jade Lotus and the Grimy Goons are really fun but i think they are too slow to compete with aggro and tempo. The Kabal feels more reliable at this point but there are 40 more cards yet to be released so things might change.

[@davidabonyi4556]

I'm so glad I opened Black Knight a while ago.... Guys, prepare your silence cards and sylvanas steals for incoming n'zoth shaman! Also, maybe purify will be goo... Oh... oh, you still can't cast it on enemy minions -_-

[@sibanbgd100]

Dávid Abonyi mass dispel meta is real

[@NoeLPZC]

Shadow Madness + Purify. ;D

[@davidabonyi4556]

well priest will be good against anything that uses a lot of deathrattle cards, including huntard so I'm all in. .... *if priest can stay alive to turn 5-6, as always

[@Tx66]

Just devolve :3

[@osav.]

Priest gets a 5 mana 5/5 with silence battlecry.

[@vitycent1]

i think a good question is if you bring back a jade golem and replay if it gets buffed or maybe it counts as summoning another one and the next one you play gets buffed because then pulling back jade golems would be something you would want to do maybe

[@themeowboss9972]

Why is text box on Jade Claws Purple? Is it actually shaman exclusive?

[@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin]

its blue, i'd assume the dark weapon text area just makes it look a bit purple, but it is in fact the same color as the rim on other shaman weapons. here's a picture of spirit claws for comparison i.ytimg.com/vi/Rl8CkBZOu0k/maxresdefault.jpg (it might also have to do with the exposure of the image, my point is there are shaman cards that look the exact same tone, though looking through examples I'm seeing a few that seem a bit lighter, so I would say it probably just has to do with graphics settings and saturation when the image was copied or something)

[@TheRealPentigan]

Wouldn't at max value a Jade Behemoth need to summon a 5/5 Golem in order to out-value Dark Arrakoa? Because Dark Arrakoa has 2/1 more stats, but it also gives C'thun +3/+3

[@jacopomuratori3764]

White eyes has a synergy with madam goya, or am i wrong? When w.e. dies, u can summon a total of 14/13 worth of stats for 6 mana. That's not bad at all.

[@Philphy]

I was sceptic about jade golems until like 3 seconds ago, just realised that Brann doesn't get cycled out

[@asafchen2088]

I really likes how this expansion eliminates the current ruling shaman and pushes shaman in a control-ish direction. OBVIOUSLY shaman needs some extremelly powerful cards for a control deck if it is intended for them to be played as a control deck out of nowhere. As much of a joke as people take it, White-Eyes is a really well designed card in that aspect, and also it sux in the current shaman deck as well!

[@chucklestorm]

that buffed up finja

[@stephenburley4581]

The Menagerie Magician comparison with Virmen Sensei has some flaws to it, namely that you've compared the best case scenario for Virmen Sensei to the "average" case for Menagerie Magician. Best case scenario, Menagerie Magician is a 10/10 for 5 mana, which is substantial stats. A hard situation to set up, but also a harder card to defend against, since you can no longer leave murlocs or dragons on the board. Honestly, if there were more synergy for Menagerie Magician, it would be top tier, the effect is so extreme. Virmen Sensei is never going to reach that point, because its' effect is lack lustre.

[@carlosvasquez7755]

Daring reporter Mill Druid is back

[@benchin3506]

i think you underestimated the shaman weapon pretty heavily. 2 ("3") mana 2/2 weapon that starts the jade golem rumble is what? potential? i think it's very good

[@Rinin.]

Storm Guardian is a death rattle though.... how long does your opponent put off killing it to prevent the effect? you might not get the card even put into your deck for a very long time. imagine if it gets peace keeper'd as well haha.

[@craigmasters7513]

people were complaining about a 4 mana 7/7 so Blizzard made a 5 mana 10/10 taunt with the power to meme

[@KuroroSama42]

0:50 I'm guessing Trump hasn't thought of the "Beneath the Grounds" or "Iron Juggernaught" combos there. Both of those cards ARE drawn and DO cause another draw.

[@Yevjer]

What about N'zoth for the white eyes and the jade golem deathrattle summon cards?

[@JawaPunter]

"Azure drake is a very popular card right now." Lol, when has it not been?

[@vitorqueiroz8791]

JawaPunter yeah

[@ZergrushEddie]

5:36 really upsets me. Even forgetting the whole Blade Flurry nerf (in short: nerfed because it limited design space for weapon and weapon buffs and gave too much burst, and then Blizzard never created any weapons to make up for the nerf) and the fact that Shaman is just continuously getting either cards that are extremely powerful or enable another way of playing, Rogues have had exactly one way of playing the game for 2 years now. "Draw lots of cards, win with some kind of Combo", IE 'Miracle Rogue'. Thievery abilities are generally too random to be useful so 'Miracle Rogue' is the only game in town. That may continue to be the case unless Blizzard decides to just give power or at least a consistent direction to Rogues.

[@Michael-re8cm]

Scary thing is the Jade Golem changes form on 20/20. Does this indicate the testers have found a way to make a 20/20 appear more often than imagined? Surely, you'll expect the last form to be on 10/10, but to have a form at 20/20 is suspicious. I'll be trying everything to make a 20/20 that's for sure!

[@ruiolavo2426]

Isn't Jade Golem decks going to be a bit overpowered? I'm not saying because its new, i'm saying because it seems to me a little hard trying to handle Jade Golems in the late game. After 4\4 jade golem, the usual AOE effect will not clean the board, (flamestrike, auchenai circle, etc)

[@tonysytubeaccount]

Concede Shaman is gona become a thing for real with the White Eyes card. Use some good midrange cards to keep up early game, throw in healing wave and Jinyu Waterspeaker to survive long enough. Throw in some other fat taunts and ancestral spirit

[@TheShockRebirth]

Shamanstone returns!!!!

[@TheABCD3912]

white eyes is also good in nzoth decks which go to late game anyway. so nzoth shaman?

[@MagicHamsta]

White Eyes is insane, think of White Eyes like Sludge Belcher. It gets +2 attack in exchange of not popping out a slime but shuffles Dr. 5 into you deck.

[@Sephiko]

I for one, welcome our new jade overlords.

[@fractalsloth]

Can Shadow Sensei only buff a stealthed minion or a minion that has it in its text too?

[@noukiller435]

shadow sensei also works with conceal!

[@blackdragons8011]

next expantion: shamans: 1 Mana 30/30 Charge and Battlecry:"Win the game" priests: 10 Mana spell: heal an enemy minion for 1 and lose the game

[@Jhawks4LIFE]

10 mana 15/15..... not bad I guess.... *cries*

[@Maurice040684]

Too weak for Shaman. He has already a 10/10 Taunt for 0 mana.

[@kalil2669]

Maurice040684 2 5/5 for 0 mana*

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Kamil - thats actually better then 10-10 because your opponent has to use 2 removals

[@MrAbbe88888]

Didn't eaven look at the vid. Headed straight to the thumbs up

[@OJT2k]

I hope a druid card that helps Maly druid is released

[@hehexd9858]

MemeDaddy 69 wait, why does maly druid needs help?

[@OJT2k]

Because when roots rotate out it will be unplayable right?

[@wenigmehl]

roots are rotating out? =( didn't realize we've had them for so long

[@OJT2k]

Not until april 2017, but I hope MsoG or the next adventure releases an alt otherwise malydruid loses so much combo power

[@nichmiller455]

you forgot to mention white eyes has a deathrattle effect, so it can be silenced. even though no one plays silence anymore, still, another downside

[@IDFK1235]

It's gonna be the reason why people hold polymorph, hex, etc. in their hand

[@EmyTheMonkey]

I wonder if Shadow Sensei can buff a minion which got stealth by a spell.

[@TheGhasp]

It can

[@EmyTheMonkey]

***** Nice :D

[@rorycaldicott9725]

Lul just realised, call in the FIN-ishers

[@agent084]

White eyes is insane. Dr. 5 for sure.

[@Thevideogamejoker]

Can be countered by most decks not that great. Read my comment i just posted, i break down basically why this card is a 7 out of 10 at best, at worst its a 5 out of 10.

[@Ashleymaul]

The problem with White Eyes is that Shaman is really not a class you can just rush down with 4 AOE and 2 o mana taunts . So you just gona need like 5 removal cards to beat your average shaman .

[@StandardTrickyness]

Actually is this a good time for expansion since it will probably force power creep.

[@somanken]

Anyone else gonna mention that this makes Nzoth Shaman possible? like the only weakness to nzoth is deathrattle and taunt is rarely put together, the only decent card with both used to be tirion....now though...

[@Iehovv]

Will the storm guardian be added by malchezaar or is considered a token?

[@christiangarza8122]

Prrra I think token but White Eyes counts so yeah

[@GuyfromEagan]

Control/Reno Shaman with Jade Golems???

[@WakkaFloppa]

Im honestly so sick of Blizzard giving Shaman really fucking good cards.

[@Joe90h]

It used to be the crap class. I think this is just a last hurrah for 2016, the year of the shamans.

[@lemondude6174]

Sean Tuazon I think Shaman is getting good cards just so the class won't be bad when tunnel trogg and totem golem rotate out

[@Begeru]

right but they won't be rotated out until the first expansion of 2017 which wouldn't be until March most likely. They could have just released the good shaman cards then.

[@lemondude6174]

Jaco But it will probably be an adventure released around that time, which is expected to have only 3 class cards each. Can't do much with that really tbh

[@IzayaV]

Sean Tuazon they're logic that overload makes up for crazy stats is tiring .. at least priest is doing better

[@WormyMaster]

Is it just me or are more and more cards really weak or just made for various tavern brawls?

[@wenigmehl]

seemed to me like most of the new cards are a little bit over the top, especially jade cards

[@andrewyp6724]

WormyMasterTV Not weak per se, but mostly for the new deck archetyle to come. I'm just worried how fast/slow the meta is going to be. Can't figure out if Jade Golems will be eaten up by aggro decks, or *they* will be some kind of new aggro decks.

[@Joe90h]

People were concerned about C'thun before it came out, and it turned out to be a mildly impactful card ultimately. Honestly, I'm reserving judgement for when the first expansion of 2017 shifts the meta. A lot of these new cards rely on Brann and Reno for maximum value, and after those are gone I feel things are going to be really different.

[@Begeru]

yes and for Arena and general RNG spawning cards.

[@saturninolumacad8060]

I forgot when will gadgetzans be released

[@johnpeter3891]

If you think about the pally weapon that has 2 attack you might get a third, but shaman now has a 3 mana 2/2 weapon, use a paladin hero power

[@TimoCruz177]

we're going to see a lot of black knights, BGHs and Silence Minions/Spells if the Meta goes like we're predicting

[@drillz8945]

Gadgetzan patch = buffpatch Silence = op in this patch Silence deck = Priest Silence Priest = topdeck

[@schantzee5733]

too bad that Purify is for friendly minions only

[@drillz8945]

Matthew Schantz feelsbadman but i'm talking about massdispel

[@schantzee5733]

I would probably tech in a Spellbreaker instead of using Priest silence cards. Maybe one Mass Dispel or 0 mana Silence if the meta is in desperate need of shutting up.

[@Jackcabbit]

Daring Reporter isn't always a 4/4. Snipe, Potion of Polymorph, Repentance, and Sacred Trial say hi, though if you play Daring Reporter into those you're kinda asking for trouble anyway.

[@Begeru]

Why does Blizzard hate Rogue so much? Yeah let's give them Undercity Huckster as a legendary and a worse Youthful Brewmaster for a rare, instead of a decent board clear or weapon. What was the point of nerfing Blade Flurry again?

[@alexandergonzalez5175]

Jaco rogue is garbage piece a shot class

[@CosmicConical]

m8 that's basically half his point.

[@Augrills]

I got legend with Malygos rogue this season. Rogue really is in a decent place. It's a spell/combo class.

[@Manganization]

I don't think they hate Rogue. They have already stated they're moving away from All-rounder Legendaries. Instead, they're taking the Priest route with Legendaries and making them something you build a deck around. Shaku the Collector seems fun, imo, and would help the Burgle archetype a bit more. A few of the cards revealed seems alright too, for the most part. As for board clear, they have already said they don't want Rogue to be good at that. As for weapons, there are still cards not yet revealed for the class, so there might be a weapon somewhere (there usually is), so have some faith a bit.

[@kloaf1131]

Rogue isn't that bad. Had a 10 win streak today on rogue.

[@grubhubguy9629]

How do jade golems work? What determines their stats?

[@Divine_Allure]

Bob Dole the first Jade Golem you play is a 1/1, second is a 2/2 and so on. It's ramps up to 10 mana 30/30

[@michaeldiamond5613]

lotus agents in rouge get white eyes znoth and raptor potenial?

[@Yuizele]

So apparently, this expansion makes Mage and Shaman more powerful. what a suprise this is.

[@fusobotic]

I think White Eyes will probably see play only because of N'Zoth, since people already play Chillmaw, and that's a 6/6 taunt for 7.

[@g8le]

GOOD POINT

[@cutpursemasterofdisguise3674]

*Shadowstep*, *Youthful Brewmaster*, *Gadgetzan Ferryman*- *Reno Jackson.* Looks like a Reno deck buff, to me.