Hearthstone Mythbusters 3

[@Hearthstone]

Some more helpful Mythbusting here, thanks HysteriA!

[@el9668]

Sneed

[@hulkhooligan2241]

@@el9668 based and sneed pilled

[@DammitSinged]

50 mana shadowstep = Trump's worst value nightmare.

[@cinemacynic980]

Trump's worst nightmare is someone playing him who actually knows how to play. He pays about 200 people to join the queue when he does, so he can have them purposely misplay so he can win.

[@sociedadhistoriayeconomia]

Mr Sweetheart wow that's true? where did you get that information?

[@francescopiga6882]

Vasco Del Sur do you even listen to him? or u ironic

[@cinemacynic980]

I have a buddy who is friends with him. And we were watching his stream together, and he would tell me, "yeah he tells people he knows to join on scrub accounts and lose to him" which is why he gets so mad when the people who are supposed to lose, actually beat him.

[@sarccacious]

Mr Sweetheart thats nice in theory, but how do you explain him hitting rank 1 legendary? surely its not by beating scrubs, because scrubs wouldnt make it past rank 10 (non legendary)

[@MrFireboll]

Wow! The last was interesting!

[@formerflash1901]

and now we know for the future what happens if they add a card with "you other minions have +1 spelldamage" and you have a violet teacher on the board as well :)

[@gabriel_cooper]

formerflash1901 we have Ancient Mage hearthstone.gamepedia.com/File:Ancient_Mage(176).png

[@formerflash1901]

gabriel dos santos cooper well yes but that doesn't give it to all minions, just the minions you place it next to, it's like comparing stormwind chanmpion to defender of argus :)

[@yotamshitrit6820]

formerflash1901 That card would be broken as fuck.So yeah expect it to come out soon.

[@NotFoundead]

Vol'jin can actually swap health with a stealthed minion. You can swap it with your own stealthed minion. *Confirmed*

[@netron896]

cant you just.. play 2 loathebs ? :D

[@iceoramaice5068]

But where is the fun in that?

[@Drohkar]

And miss all that fun?

[@netron896]

Drohkar yeah true

[@OSGondar]

+Netron No, you cant. That's just ridiculous to even acknowledge such an idea, shame on you...

[@RedstoneLogicProductions]

Cuz then you can still play shadowstep/moonfire/forbidden flame/forbidden healing for 10 mana ;D

[@sportsracer48]

If bouncing blade hits an acolyte of pain, which draws a flame leviathan, which kills a minion, the blade will stop because a minion has died.

[@echaen1707]

Love watching these videos! Great job again, HysteriA!

[@bili4441]

The migthy army of trogs got rekt by 0 mana fireballs ... #BibleThump

[@francoistrempe]

that mortal strike scenario! Well played.

[@thegamingpro9128]

HARD MYTH : If both player, a mage and paladin, are at the same amount of health, and the mage has eye for an eye and ice block, when the Mage gets hit once for a fatal amount, the eye for an eye will trigger THEN the ice block, killing the paladin.

[@thegamingpro9128]

Another variable - Play order of secrets

[@Floirty]

Not hard. The damage isn't dealt, and as such Eye for an Eye cannot trigger. Play order of secrets doesn't matter, since Ice Block will get priority over Eye for an Eye.

[@Spookynoises125]

TheGamingPro Also be intresting to see if there was some weird interaction if the mage had say 6 hp left and the pally has 5 and the mage takes 10 damage does it 'reflect' 5 as thats the non-lethal portion. Although I agree with Florent the most likely outcome is just no damage is delt

[@raywvc]

Dardstar at 6 hp you'll still receive 10, because normally you'll lose at negative 4 health, (didnt test but thats just coming from my experience)

[@OldTreachery]

Florent Gineste True, since the Mage's secrets get priority over the Paladin secrets when you play a Mage

[@AdrianSK69]

That Loatheb stacking though, lol

[@andressblabla]

That last clip was genious!

[@Eysc]

dat Voljin bug... it should be a 2 health minion still.

[@Xendusso]

Thats the reason i subscribed to you . More of this good stuff!

[@MsOopsiDaisy]

I love how you are trying to break the game, keep it up =D

[@L0LWTF1337]

They still did not fix the voljin bug :(

[@ashiax]

not a bug

[@L0LWTF1337]

ashiax nordentoft then why is voljin behaving differently from playing on an empty board like shattered sun for instance?

[@reidoranedneiderte7874]

ashiax nordentoft It is, he shouldn't die instantly after he is played even if there is no valid creature with what he could swap his health (stealths and so on)

[@ashiax]

do you even story?

[@L0LWTF1337]

ashiax nordentoft do you even english?

[@papaboris8665]

This was your best work. Truly mind-bending stuff here. Bravo!

[@GuyRandom]

Dude I love these series! It makes a board game so much more adventurous!

[@formerflash1901]

MYTH: if you shadow madness an enemy minion, then kill off an enemy sylvanis, at the end of the turn, the creature will return to you.

[@elledul6287]

Myth : if mistress of pain misdirect ( with misdirection secret) and hit your soulpriest ( misstress of pain must kill soulpriest) will you die? and another myth with that. Misstres of pain misdirect to you and kill you with enough damage will you die or her ability will trigger and will you stay alive? ( Sorry for bad english :d)

[@tim..indeed]

There is a famous video where someone died to mistress of pain effect even though auchenai has no hp. The second one was already tested, the character will survive due to the heal Its probably the same as with Truesilver Champion vs Explosive Trap

[@oziuche]

For the second myth you can go to watch the previous episode. :)

[@Patashu]

oziuche The reason why you die if you suicide into a zombie chow that should heal you is because deathrattles are a later 'phase'. The game checks to see if the hero is dead at the end of 'phases', so you can revive with things like explosive trap + true silver since they both trigger in the same 'phase'. You can look at the advanced rulebook page on the Hearthstone wiki to learn more

[@oziuche]

Patashu interesting, but why you answer me?

[@Patashu]

oziuche I'm answering Tim Fischer and Dulcelle E, sorry for confusion

[@gianlucaplein]

Very nice video as always ... That mortal stirke though :)

[@TinyZu]

The fuck happened to Vol'jin?

[@eagleskid365]

I believe it swapped 2 health for 0, and they added a special animation when that happens. (basically it died)

[@themonkeyking665]

***** Your face is a kneecap.

[@filipedin]

They patched it now he will be able to switch with stealth now

[@ozisusgerophiusmanabuzzwar2335]

TinyZu He was like "Oh shit mon, not da tigah. I be outta here!"

[@jrsdef]

It's a bug, they fixed it in the most recent patch

[@kbencze95]

you need more views, you're videos are awesome

[@FizzleDrizzleYuh]

Hysteria, you are arrested for killing over 100 inocent troggs.You have the right to remain silent.

[@MazorKuziaki]

Myth: Minions that give your hero immune cannot be stealthed.

[@joycourier]

Mal'Ganis + Master of Disguise? That's interesting.

[@3223amazing]

They can be stealthed but you need a LOT of luck cause iirc the only way to get both of them together is to use unstable portal. There's an amaz video on his channel where he actually got both of them.

[@thechrisgrice]

Jakob Cocking Amaz actually got this in a game with Mage - got them both in an unstable portal and he just sat there and waited for the other guy to concede.

[@FizzleDrizzleYuh]

SEAReviver you can faceles a malganis as a rogue too

[@CheaptasticStarcraft]

***** SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY I already have a rogue deck built around MOD-Hogger (look up Swarm Host on hearthpwn), and yes it runs faceless... Of course, now that I'm going to look for a handlock, there will be none to be found.

[@vibingwiththewind2889]

2:20 They fixed that. He no longer insta dies.

[@itsvigga]

Sry for pointing this out but at 3:15 it says "mortal stirke" and not mortal strike

[@HysteriAHS]

God damn it I really do suck at spelling

[@Hapidjus_]

HysteriA would be so hilarious if your answer here had a typo in it....=))))

[@Alexisasful]

HysteriA reported. though if Vigga doesnt mention i wouldnt have even noticed it :D

[@ktktktktktktkt]

Alex Sebők why would you report that

[@Alexisasful]

ktktktktktktkt why not C:

[@deckie_]

When a 0 cost spell gets it's manacost reduced by Emperor Thaurrisan and then the opponent plays Loatheb, the spell costs less than 5.

[@MrObsesion]

rogue quest becomes happy with that loatheb summons xD

[@4xHitler]

You deserve a like for that long troggzor cleanup.

[@nicksmith8846]

about the vol'jin one, vol'jin can swap health with an ALLIED STEALTHED MINNION

[@Couch_Potatoing]

Why did the borrowed mine explode in your hand? :s

[@Toxena]

The last one is probably not going to be used in actual play cause of how many specific cards need to be played, but it's damn interesting

[@LordMichaelRahl]

I just chanced upon the Mythbusters series and I've watched the previous eps one after another. 2 words. Holy Shit

[@mccullarjacob]

I love this song.

[@omaewamoushindeiru9376]

The vol'jin bug got updated and now it's possible

[@massimoverzeni4799]

Mith: if you play milhouse and then play loatheb, do all enemy spells cost 0 or 5?

[@fonhomephone9275]

5 mana if you play Millhouse first and 0 mana if you play Loatheb first.

[@DrunkenGlums]

That's not a *myth, it's a question.

[@NorthWindStudios]

David Berntsson That should be a bug... Theoretically playing millhouse would make spells 0 no matter what.

[@JoeWazzify]

NorthWind Studios Actually it isn't. Since both of their effects are battlecries whichever one is played first takes effect first and the second battlecry would override the first one.

[@NorthWindStudios]

JoeWazz No but the way millhouse is written it should override ALL other effects. Because it states "Spells cost (0)" so Blizzard should set it up to work so that spells WILL cost 0 no matter what.

[@FuriosoDrummer]

I feel like that Burrowing Mine thing is a bug, as they didn't go off when Thoughtstolen but all went off when the opponent drew the Burrowing Mine. Seems like a bugged interaction.

[@masterplusmargarita]

How do you even reduce the cost of 10 thoughsteals to 0 as Warrior? I don't remember any cost reduction mechanics that Warrior has access to unless you got Thaurissan 4 days early :P Also, having Antonidas on new account... ouch, that must have cost many moneyz.

[@Glace__]

Vol'jin bug was hotfixed today

[@madbeast15]

50 mana shadowsteps? Just use 25 Innervates Kappa

[@Dehumanized33]

But wouldnt innervate cost 50 mana? :)

[@madbeast15]

Dehumanized33 *whoosh*

[@CheaptasticStarcraft]

Just use the Coin, it's what all the pros do Kappa

[@Rurike]

Cheaptastic Productions Coin would cost 50 as well

[@xanderwusky]

Yea but inervate would cost 50 too (50 mana gain 2 mana... Hmmm seems balanced :))

[@paraalso]

Could you test the chance of getting Huffer from Animal Companion?

[@elrosmeero]

I assume it is 33%

[@notfridgelastname1239]

elrosmeero and what is chance of other two compainions

[@paraalso]

elrosmeero There was someone who claimed to have tested it to be closer to 50% for Huffer over hundreds of Animal Companion casts. Could have just been a hoax, though.

[@Rurike]

paraalso to truely test the probability youd need to perform the test thousands or possibly more times to get accurate results, thats just how probability works, or you could look into the code

[@xanderwusky]

Depends who you play. If you are at 4 health and your opponent plays it its huffed 100% of the time. If your opponent is at 4 health it's huffed 0% of the time :D

[@notaconsolepleb37]

This is some grooooooovy music

[@presspaws8745]

This was a really good one! :D

[@zorodex2570]

love the music

[@FURLONratte]

the part with vol'jin and stealth minions was updated and is confirmed now

[@torstenlandsson9757]

Many toggzors where hurt filming this video. Liek if u cry eri tim

[@mightofoaks]

Info for your next episode of Mythbusters: Raid Leader's effect is a constant one, even for cards in your hand. If you have Warsong Commander and raid leader up and play a 3 attack minion from your hand it doesn't get charge because the game counts it as having 4 attack even though it isn't played because of raid leader. Also, if you play a Grim Patron from your hand with the Warsong/Raid combo it won't get charge. But if you damage a grim patron and it summons a new one to the field it DOES get charge even though it has 4 attack. I think it's because it didn't exist in your hand. It is summoned, therefor gets the buff. I think raid leader works like Pint Sized Summoner, or Sorcerer's Apprentice does. But with attack values instead of mana cost. It's a global effect(including your hand) so the game thinks your cards in hand actually have 1 more attack than they show. Also, if you have Hobgoblin/Warsong Commander/Raid Leader on the board and play a 1 attack minion, it doesn't get charge either. Hobgoblin does give it a +2/+2 buff even through the raid leader because it is a natural 1 attack minion, even through raid leader. But the effect happens before warsongs because it says 'Play' and warsong says 'summon' the play effect happens first. It also doesn't matter which order they are played, like the Ragnaros attacking Kel'Thuzad does. I'm uncertain why Hobgoblin gives the buff though. I'm thinking it is the difference between the play, summon and natural ability effects. Hope you can use this :) Thanks, and love the videos!

[@NikiHerl]

The Mortal Strike one is pretty surprising I must say. Seems a bit inconsistent with e.g. Shadow Word Pain vs Troggs, no?

[@SpitefulAZ]

I'M SO CONFUSED!!! Why did the mines in the warrior's hand explode and trigger after priest drew the mine? The card says when you draw it, it explodes. Warrior didn't draw it....

[@lordpigster]

Wait if there are no targets Voljin dies instantly?

[@realthoo]

stays as a 6:2

[@eoghanmurphy9204]

***** no it dies.

[@Hymik]

Eoghan Murphy IIRC it stays as a 6/2, but there's a bug(?) which kills it if the enemy's only minion is stealthed

[@MrQuakeLoL]

Gan Jer Shern it stays at 2 health, I think it should swap health or stay at 2 with enemy stealth minions as well.

[@tearsforfearsfan2]

Hymi doesnt matter if the enemy's only minion is stealthed, the bug is that vol'jin gets destroyed every time he cant swap health with a minion ( that means this bug works on completely empty board aswell)

[@Thewaytosleep]

I fully expect to see the loetheb shadowstep combo in high ranked tournements

[@benja9986]

myth: you are able to summon void terror if you have a full bord

[@PoppyGaming43]

But you can't be damaged by a burrowed mine when your hand is full

[@MrZerodaim]

Why did the bombs explode in the jugg clip ? They're supposed to explode only when drawn (anyway, just use them if you TS one). Vol'Jin dying because he can't swap seems like a bug. Note : the cost reduction from shadowstep applies AFTER the reduction from portals (loatheb costing 0 while the portal says it can't reduce the cost under 1). But if you shadowstep loatheb first, then play the portals, does it still cost 0?

[@playthroughmaster]

(50 MANA SHADOWSTEP) VALUE SPOTTED

[@MasterKaravay]

Loatheb (many loathebs) + Millhouse Manastorm Millhouse Manastorm + Loatheb (many loathebs)

[@derpinglyyt6285]

If you play Loatheb, then Millhouse, the effects will take place in that order, so the spells will cost five more, then they'll be free, because Millhouse was played after Loatheb. If you play Millhouse first, then Loatheb, enemy spells will first cost 0, then they'll all cost 5 because Loatheb was played after. Atleast I think that's how it works.

[@димарадченко-е8э]

Myth : Bouth of two Dark Iron Bouncer on the table can survive brawl

[@novideoonlycomment722]

I've been always wondering if Loathebs battlecry stacks.

[@Gregorytos]

Thanks for the video man appriciate it

[@matmacau1]

After the latest patch vol'jin won't die if there is only a stealthed minion on the field

[@ludterror1]

i like your videos man !!

[@quban234]

MYTH: Will shadowflame on mistress of pain triger her ability?

[@EMETRL]

negative mana costs DO exist in hearthstone. If Emperor Thaurrisan has reduced a "zero" cost card several times, say 3 past 0, it actually does cost -3 mana. You can test this by having loatheb played against you. In this case, the card would end up costing -3+5=2 mana. Cool mechanics, indeed!

[@AllegedOrder]

E_M_E_T how interesting! I want to test this now

[@agentdelta569]

can you do so much damage to something (anything) that its health ticks over to 21.000,000 (or what ever the max number is) like with lore walker cho getting his health doubled endlessly to the point where it ticks over and goes in to the negative but in reverse

[@naist6374]

Myth: When your oponent plays Loatheb and you play Kirin tor mage, will your next secret cost 0 or 5 ?

[@Snowberries17]

It will cost 0, someone counter my Loatheb that way because Kirin Tor is a Battlecry, so it overrides Loatheb's.

[@CheaptasticStarcraft]

Can you cast a thoughtstolen burrowing mine? Or does it just explode as soon as it reaches your hand?

[@bakubladers]

how did you prep for some of these, how'd you get a bunch of rouge cards in a warlock deck? loremaster cho?

[@EriconatorV2]

+bakubladers Yep.

[@ShadowXSky]

Can you check if When an ogre brute or any minion that misses, hits a stealthed minion Does the stealthed minion become unstealthed?

[@odemisarda00]

When you shadowflame a emperor cobra it kills all the enemy minions???? Maybe

[@FizzleDrizzleYuh]

odemisarda00 No, because Cobras effect is: If this minion damages a minion it dies instantly. Shadowflame destroys a minion and deals the damage. This means that shadowflame is dealing damage, not the cobra.

[@odemisarda00]

***** ohhh i get it thanks

[@HimariHimatsu]

i think the myth was that you could trade hp with a friendly stealthed minion, but idk

[@rlin656]

Thanks for the video!

[@bufftucker]

How did that warlock get nine shadowsteps? What kind of sorcery is this?

[@Thaumius]

will playing multiple shadowforms increase the attack of shadowform?

[@patrickkwong4651]

Special thanks to Lorewalker Cho. He made these ridiculous shenanigans and experiments possible.

[@tjarkzhuehuehue8664]

Hearthstone Mythbsuters 3

[@10crazed]

How did he customize the decks to get all those shadowsteps and all those thoughtsteals?

[@bundiderp5109]

I got a myth for you: Comboed Sabotage kills Tirion and destroys the Ashbringer

[@AndrewMoffitt]

What the hell was the deal with the Burrowing Mines?!

[@fieryimmortal]

voljin got so depressed that he couldn't steal the tigers health that he just decided to go kill himself

[@FrunkleBerryFinn]

Myth idea, can you use Steamwheedle Sniper for Warlock? Take health from a minion instead of your hero health?

[@S1xEyes]

Frank Hart Confirmed by Ben Brode that Steamwheedle has no effect on any class besides Hunter. People kept asking if you could summon a Silver Hand Recruit or Totem in minions xD

[@patrickwienhoft7987]

Does Vol'jin still die when he can't battlecry? o.o And with multiple Mines in your opponents deck, when you thoughtsteal some, the game keeps track exactly of which mine exacty was created/copied by thoughtsteal? So when your opponent draws one, just the mines in your hand that are really exactly that mine (you might see a difference with golden and non-golden mines) will explode?

[@patrickwienhoft7987]

+Patrick Wienhöft edit: Vol'Jin got fixed

[@SeanEmanon]

Vol'jin now swaps hp with stealh

[@tilty7522]

@HysteriA 2:20 if the stealthed minion is a ally minion this will work

[@SeanG6]

PLEASE MORE

[@Rinocapz]

Nice vis!

[@rajeevsashti4978]

day 3 of team builder in the pbe... i wonder if i should cancel queue to risk it all or if it will give me a group in the next month...

[@dwadhams23]

pretty obvious that the loatheb thing would be confirmed, because you did it so many times. quick way to test it would be to just do it twice so you guys probably already knew and wanted to get it higher.

[@Destruto11]

What happens if you have a burrowing mine in your deck and use tracking and the bombs one of the choices?

[@S1xEyes]

Vv_HuntingWolf_vV_Personal I can only assume you burn it. If you draw the bomb with 10 cards in hand it's "defused" as it's burnt and destroyed and the effect doesn't proc.

[@G3N1U594]

what about playing loatheb after millhouse manastorm? will that give the opponent 5 mana spells or 0 mana spells?

[@saphcal]

the voljin one was a bug and just got fixed.

[@thomasboissonneault9669]

MOAR PLS

[@Garfieldcfc]

How does one get 9 shadow steps as a Warlock? Just using 2 Lorewalker Chos?

[@yes4me]

Amazing! Thanks!

[@mandarin9242]

Whats happenend if i use TREE OF LIFE with AUCHENAI SOULPRIST?

[@POLKQWER]

This happened to me I killed a mad scientist with a Si7:agent battlecry (deal 2 damage) the mad scientist deathrattle gave my opponent a mirror entity and it copied my agent.

[@EMETRL]

so because your opponent drew the mine, the mines in your hand activate too? that doesn't make much sense.

[@TBaldy]

Pineapple!

[@DonWinther]

Is it possible to kill Jaraxxus with Rend's ability?

[@JPXtorsion]

I actually successfully found the thoughtstolen mine once with a custom game with my friend. It was funny cuz i was playing thief priest vs a standard control warrior and it was completely by accident xD

[@JPXtorsion]

It's weird cuz when I did it, I didn't take damage :O

[@DvirPick]

Xtorsion you take damage from the mine in your hand only when your opponent draws the mine.