(Hearthstone) Whispers of the Old Gods Card Review: Part 1

[@dennischiu272]

Timestamps: 0:31 Forbidden Flame, Forbidden Healing, Forbidden Shaping 5:02 Tentacles for Arms 8:09 DOOM! 10:01 Renounce Darkness 11:26 Faceless Shambler 13:02 Giant Sand Worm 14:51 Infest 16:51 Eater of Secrets 18:51 Undercity Huckster

[@UTubeGenius]

Thank yoooooou

[@mattsav5711]

Gods work

[@Apostrophe_D]

I appreciate how you talked about Tentacles for Arms. My first reaction was it's awful, a 5-mana weapon that can't kill any 5-mana+ drops. And when I looked on Reddit it seemed everyone had the same thought. But hearing how it can be used properly and how you described that, in some control warrior decks, there are turns later in the game where you are just armoring up and not using a lot of mana helped me understand the card better. Thanks for that.

[@Karacis]

Thanks for doing these for us Kibler! Always enjoy watching pro's review the new cards

[@israelst-gelais922]

Hi Kibler, i just want to say that i've watched all reviews on the new expansion, and your's is the one i've loved the most. You can express yourself and explain cards in a very particular way, and i love it. You're objective and don't complain/spit on cards like everyone else ! Keep up the good work :D (Excuse my grammar/english, I'm doing the best i can)

[@TF2PNub]

I still feel that Tentacles for Arms should have read "Deathrattle: Return this to your hand. It costs 2 less".

[@phillipshaffer2129]

Definitely

[@Mandragara]

+TF2PNub Should be a 2/1 deathrattle:return to your deck for the mill synergy

[@TF2PNub]

***** That is significantly worse.

[@Mandragara]

+TF2PNub Not when you're taking fatigue damage

[@TF2PNub]

***** It screws up your draws before that, and doesn't offer much to compensate. So yes, I would still say it's significantly worse.

[@mirkazoful]

kibler's face is weird when he is not smiling

[@alexluna6238]

👀

[@parkerhahaha]

Good thing his smile is so beautiful AngelThump

[@Helgepoi]

+mirko figueredo It's because we see him smiling so much we are not used to his normal resting face :D

[@Mofriese]

Even in a value game, would you really play Tentacle for Arms instead of Arathi Weaponsmith?

[@RealCoachMustafa]

As a game designer, I love listening to Brian. He explains things in great depth and is very insightful.

[@kingslade2025]

is that a 2 mana shiro t-shirt? o_0

[@chickachoy]

+King Slade it's his shiro power

[@jeffreysmith2775]

+Michael Fortini No please leave

[@bmkibler]

+King Slade It's a Shiro Power shirt. www.crowdmade.com/bmk :)

[@DarkestGlitcher]

Op

[@DoggedShipFail]

+Jeffrey Smith That's the name of the shirt you dip

[@fiefire1234]

Kibler, you're so handsome that I have to watch your videos two times in a row to pay attention to your words. Notice me Kibler-senpai

[@setokaiba4880]

Gay

[@alexluna6238]

Lat

[@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758]

Ya watching his lips move is so much more fulfilling than hearing about how he doesn't understand how bad tentacles for arms is

[@hastyscorpion1]

+I really hate making up names for this kind of stuff I think he knows a little more about card games than you.

[@tonynghongxiang]

senpai will nvr notice u!! >

[@omzyb4509]

Im pretty sure you're the reason that im losing to more shadow priests than secret pally's these days

[@Bittles]

rather lose to priest then a pally

[@SunnyMuffinsRox]

brian kibler is very handsome

[@Goekcan7]

+Anthony Yan HA GAAAAYY !!!

[@alexluna6238]

Tayyyyyy

[@MrBtterman]

+Alex Luna Grayyy

[@Kazmomusic]

+Deathrelived Baeee

[@Undkor]

+Mat Kaz Yaaaaaaay!

[@gamer7916]

So Kibler, are you more excited for Whispers of the Old Gods or Shadows over Innistrad?

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

+gamer7916 Magic is going back to Innistrad? Damn I had a quick return to the game when Innistrad was released, that lasted through the Ravnica block. Maybe it's the universe telling me something?

[@pixywings7715]

+Snobby Gamer MTG really seems to have run out of ideas, I played Magic 2010 - RTR, It seems like its only 1-2 years before they go back somewhere to ruin the block that once was fun. Mirriodin wasn't bad though.

[@BrianDeBrain_]

There actually IS a way to destroy Tentacles for arms. Fill opponent's hand, then destroy weapon.

[@smellyfish36]

And that legend that gives you both weapons I guess, does replace trigger deathrattle?

[@InsignificantConnor]

+Llama Replace does trigger them yes

[@XeeNeeto]

+Llama Blingtron would trigger the deathtrattle, unless it's bugged

[@gregoryzelevinsky9837]

+Llama it does trigger death rattle

[@kingofclubs7258]

+Llama yes replace does trigger deathrattle, its actually a pretty known way to trigger it (for instance with fiery waraxe on deathbite)

[@JRKhoury18]

Hi Brian. One interesting synergy for Giant Sandworm (if it sticks) is comboing with the beast immunity cards like bestial wrath. Let's you clear your opponents board generally as well as smash his face in. Problem is, control Hunter isn't a thing. But the card is kickass in such a deck.

[@annikam2004]

+Jim Ramsey Khoury omg that would be op. You can kill practically every minion with 8 attack.

[@izwe794]

So glad that you saw the upside to tenticles. In fatigue games it plus tank up causes a 6 health difference between you and your opponent's life totals

[@tarbosh917]

I love your assessment of Tentacles for Arms. Not only because it is in line with how I see the card, but because people respect your opinion and without your comments about it it's borderline impossible to have a reasonable discussion about the card in places like Reddit without people thinking you're batshit insane. I think too many people try to evaluate cards in how effective they'd be in any given deck when cards like Tentacles for Arms is clearly designed for a specific use in mind, and when you pull that card out of those scenarios then obviously it will be bad. It's a more narrow application of the "The minion dies to removal so it's bad" trap approach to card review.

[@rfrakctured]

Forbidden Shaping for Randuin Wrynn decks? Get Noxious on the case!

[@DoraTsubaki]

You're the first streamer I see finding a really interesting way to give value to Tentacles for Arms. Indeed your analysis of the card is really interesting, I didn't see it this way. Still, I think it's pretty expensive and arrives too late to be really useful in the mana curve, even in Control Warrior decks. Wait and see !

[@Johbe1110]

Damn thank you Brian. Finally someone puts Tentacles for Arms in its right light. All this cicle jerk was completely wrong imo. Tentacles for Arms is actually one of my favourite cards so far

[@BibikiTV]

Hey Kibler. Great analysts, as usual. If I'm allowed to have one request from you: Wait until all the new Dragons are released before you do a review about them. An all Dragon review from the Dragon master him self. :P Have a good day.

[@gurugamma4904]

My issue with Tentacles for Arms is twofold: first, it's very rarely a card you want to play as soon as possible, so if you draw it early it just kinda sits in your hand looking pretty. Second, I understand that the idea of the card is that it's basically an engine for infinite value, but it still needs to reach a point where you would deem it worth the investment. After all, for 5 mana you can deal 10 damage with Arcanite Reaper, or kill two minions with 5 or less health, or even one really big minion with 10 or less health, in the span of two turns. It would take TfA 5 turns and 15 mana to do the same thing. Sure, after that point anything else you get is money in the bank, but look how much investment it takes just to theoretically "break even". This doesn't even cover the fact that once you start casting it, any other weapons you might have become basically worthless and cluttering up card space, so do you not run any others? Over all, I think it falls the way of Dreadsteed: a cool card built to gain infinite value that could be fun to play, but from a competitive standpoint just can't get the job done.

[@RealityRogue]

It's basically only for fatigue warrior

[@thomascarlsen86]

Love that you dont flame over every single card. Like a lot of people do

[@JardFGC_]

Tentacles For Arms is basically a weapon version of dreadsteed

[@LordSathar]

+Wafflebob PlaysMC so much wore than dreadsteed, it's only useful once game goes to fatigue.

[@user-jc3vy6tc1n]

6:30 sure but 3/2 for 5 might actually see play

[@12Rman21]

how would eater of secrets work with brann? I think you only get the +1/+1 once but things have worked weird before.

[@pixywings7715]

+12Rman21 It eats the secrets and then eats them again although there are no secrets the second time he feasts.

[@feltrazsalo5891]

One thing I want to know about the forbidden cards, do they count as the cost they are played or zero in regards to cards such as summoning stone? Does it count as a zero drop or does it count as the amount of mana used?

[@athena5799]

They count as 0 I believe

[@ppppp524]

Future reference: timestamp the video in the description so that if anyone wants to see what you have to say about a certain card, they don't have to skip around a 20 minute video in the hope of seeing it on the screen

[@normalcommenter8595]

+kaveman80207 Its a 20 minute video why dont you do it yourself and write it in the comments. It would be annoying for him to do.

[@Mushopelli]

thanks for the breakdowns, I'm excited!

[@Gothstana]

But Tentacles for Arms is only going to be useful for going face, when you get to late game there won't be any minions to hit with it unless you want to proc an Execute, which Warrior already has multiple ways of getting.

[@KeppyKep]

Would Renounce Darkness be better as a discover?

[@sebastianllano7424]

Well if a creature does not die to removal then it is too op so stuff like sand worm i believe is good

[@agaet1blodhren]

the real question is. will the forbidden cards be something played before or after you spend the mana, or both?

[@skyman8880]

Brian. I can see your point for Tentacles for Arms, but there are two major differences between it and Shadowform. Shadowform is both cheaper and more valuable when it comes to life. Shadowform costs 3, and then lets you damage for 2. So the first hit for both costs 5 mana. Over time, SF has an initial cost of 3, and a use cost of 2, while TFA has a use cost of 2.5 per attack. TFA also has to account for the damage the hero will take when they attack, while using SF will never cost the player life.

[@MagnegaX]

But Tentacles doesn't take away your hero power, which is kind of a big deal with shadowform. Tentacles is more like a second, expensive hero power.

[@skyman8880]

+Magnega Well, yeah. It is 25% more expensive than any other hero power out there, and says "Deal 2 damage to any target, and lose life equal to their attack"

[@ryukenxx2]

and lets not forget that you can play 2 shadow form because it resets your hero power and gives you +1 attack, that warrior weapon is just awful.

[@JoViljarHaugstulen]

how slow does the game have to be for tentacles for arms to be better compared with Gorehowl (though it is vulnerable to getting removed)

[@bloodhoof1000]

Brian do you think hearthstone should be best 2 out of 3 and have sideboards.

[@marcusostergren5560]

Justicar Truehart does basically the same as Tentacles for arms, but it costs 5 mana to equip every time instead of 2... :I

[@micpan8642]

Yeah, I always wondered about that. In theory, Warlocks are supposed to have lower quality cards because they have their hero power. In actuality though, Warlocks actually have the best removal. Edit: I'm referring to 8:15 by the way when he talks about warlock AOE removal and card draw

[@gregoryzelevinsky9837]

How do they have the best removal? The only decent removal they have is shadowflame, which is not really removal at all :)

[@fearsomeclarinet]

+Michelle Pan Blizzard have said multiple times this is not how they balance cards, and they do not believe Warlocks have a significantly stronger hero power to balance around. I do not know how this rumor got started

[@ryukenxx2]

warlocks have terrible removal, the best removal card is hex which belong to shaman.

[@nritsch]

+Gregory Zelevinsky Siphon soul, corruption, shadow bolt.

[@HamStrokers-Ejacula]

+Nathan Ritscherle Corruption is awful removal as you're not immediately removing the threat and Shadow Bolt isn't always going to kill something.

[@PokeMultiverse]

can we get a hunt master of the fells hearthstone variant for kibler? please?

[@Kaczer94]

About Giant Sand Worm, are you guys forgetting about something? Tundra Rhino? I guess it's tough to set it up, but imagine it working.

[@latinajoseph]

Tundra Rhino surviving a turn is rare

[@frod2037]

+Joseph Latina Rare = in every pack = 100 % chance to get one. Tundra Rhino surviving a turn is rare = Tundra Rhino will survive for 100% bb

[@josephperez5545]

Where do you find all these cards? On the Hearthstone website it only shows up to Renounce Darkness

[@nielspetervikkelse6046]

Hearthpwn.com

[@Thavleifrim]

the dream is you use thaurisan and whatever other cost reduction may become available to get out stable master, tundra rhino and giant sand wurm on the same turn.

[@CalamityVirus]

Sand-worm + bestial Wrath combo inc Also, Tentacles for Arms plus Druid HP 3/4 atk

[@Swimmerwoad]

I saw Kezan Mystic tech play a lot in the hearthstone winter championships, Eater is a good tech choice

[@TheNoa36]

I think it took a secret only 2 times in the whole American championship, though...

[@Swimmerwoad]

CUB3M4ST3R But those to times it won the game

[@TheNoa36]

So? It was a useless card in all other matchups.

[@experitha3541]

Question - What are your views on playing tentacles for arms in a rouge deck. I'm by no means an experienced hearthstone player but I feel like it could have some definite late game power for later Rouge nuke decks. I'm probably wrong but if you'd respond it'd be awesome. Much respect.

[@HamStrokers-Ejacula]

+AhShark Tentacles for Arms is a warrior class card. In case you're not aware the border color around the text on weapons denotes to which class it belongs. Dark red borders denote Warrior.

[@experitha3541]

Ohhhhh i'm aware of that fact but i didn't even notice it. Thanks for correcting me lmao. OOPS

[@HamStrokers-Ejacula]

AhShark Hey, it happens.

[@micpan8642]

The Kibler has arrived!

[@shadowmanwkp]

Renounce darkness picks the sane class for your hero power and class cards. Cards like deadly poison and auchenai soulpriest aren't as dead as they would appear to br

[@radar9561]

Kibler do you think that Forbidden Flame/Healing/Shaping might be good as combo cards? You talked as if you would always play them for your full mana but from the description I'd assume that they can be played as a second card. I.E. at 10 mana you could play 5 mana healbot 5 mana Forbidden healing and heal for 18. Edit: Also Giant Sand worm tundra rhino? :)

[@csarmii]

How are you sure that Faceless Shambler's copy can be silenced?

[@joshpryor3668]

The forbidden cards would be good around fatigue as you would generally at 10 mana

[@bigjavo36]

3 mana turn give everything a webspinner effect? i smell lots of shenans!

[@mcducknorris9167]

if when you have tentacles and you equip a weapon does the deathrattle still trigger

[@SuddenReal]

+marcus allan Yes, it's a trick with Death's Bite to trigger the whirlwind effect when you already attacked (Equip Death's Bite, attack, equip another weapon, deal 1 damage to every minion).

[@jasonhenson7388]

+marcus allan Yes all weapon deathrattles trigger like that example deaths bite.

[@mcducknorris9167]

yeah at the time i thought it was equip the weapon when the weapon dies so i was thinking it would destroy the weapon that destroyed it XD

[@Serjohn]

x2 renounce darkness are the only cards you need to play warlock in standard if you are a free to play player

[@timothystrathman9227]

For the forbidden cards do u have to activate them first in a turn or can u play other cards first?

[@kattakuzai3365]

You can play other cards and it uses up the remaining mana.

[@Yippiyaya1]

Tundra Rhino would be great with Giant Sand Worm, so i think it has potential

[@Sargeofj00]

In regards to Giant Sand Worm. On the bright side, at least BGH's quote would be accurate with it!

[@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758]

On the subject of tentacles for arms, it can help you in deep fatigue decks, but when have you been in a warrior game where you really needed help in deep fatigue, really?

[@Drugor57]

Control vs control warri. Happens sometimes and you wish you have 2 dmg extra evry turn :p

[@LeandroBraz23]

I don't think Faceless Shambler can be silenced. It looks like it actually transform it's status, so it wouldn't be that green buff that can be silenced but it's actual status. Unless Blizzard confirmed that it can be silenced and I'm unaware of that fact, I think people are misreading what the card actually does.

[@Madhattersinjeans]

I think the comparison of Tentacles for arms to shadowform is missing some things. Shadowform does not stop the priest from using other removal spells once it's set up. Tentacles for arms does stop a lot of the warrior removal from being used and vice versa. If you have a gorehowl or fiery war axe you don't have the option of using Tentacles as an extra damage source to clear something. This means this card is competing with the other weapons and makes for some awkward turn planning. While normally it's nice to have your hero power still usable (unlike shadowform which removes the heal effect) the warrior hero ability does nothing to alter the board. Although I suppose the upgraded hero power "tank up" becomes slightly more useful. I feel like Tentacles for arms would be a better fit in a non-weapon class, Priest/Mage/warlock/druid would be an interesting alternative instead of another terrible weapon for Warrior. It's basically a poisoned blade for warriors. Another weapon that would be interesting in a different class. At least it's an epic so warriors in arena don't get screwed over. Of course they might introduce a minion/spell that has great synergy with this weapon. I remain very skeptical.

[@JulianJohnston919]

These new cards are going to change HS for sure!

[@konga382]

Do you think Giant Sand Worm will be played if BGH gets nerfed?

[@SkrFrost]

whoah i just looked at brian's wiki page and it says he's won 262 grand from tournament winnings back in his magic the gathering tournament days (or maybe he still attends idk but this is pretty impressive lol)

[@donjuan2001]

This new pack will be...interesting

[@DeepSpaceNinja]

Kibler is right. Tentacles for arms fits right into fatigue warrior. Imagine armoring up for 4 and dealing 2 damage every turn.

[@i_am_ergo]

+DeepSpaceNinja That means you have alternating 3-mana and 8-mana turns past turn 10. That's kind of terrible.

[@DeepSpaceNinja]

well playing past fatigue is kind of dumb anyway

[@ComradeQuestion42069]

Battlecry effects really need to hit when they enter the board, not just played from hand.

[@Donruler117]

turn 8 or turn 10 forbidden shaping (provided hero power is used) should always prove worth it

[@Icefireninja]

Your thoughts are interesting, good vid!

[@neovah2626]

infest could give you savage combatant, which while its not the best card, with a lot of the efficient 4 drops leaving standard *cough cough shredder*, it could be decent-ish, and if you can make it stick, deal 2 to your opponents face and clear a minion or deal an extra 2 to their face? in hunter? hell yeah, where do i sign??

[@benjaminadler2001]

You assume Renounce Darkness can only be played on turn 2, when it's meant to be played on turn twenty. This card will be a life-saver in control matchups when your Warlock hero power and mass removal cards are all useless.

[@Swimmerwoad]

Big Game Hunter can finally have the beast in his sights!

[@isabellemurray4260]

tentacle for arms should be a five mana 2/2 death rattle return this card to your hand it costs 2 mana then it would be balanced and reasonable as a one of in fatigue warrior but mainly only for fatigue matchups.

[@sporkmclork]

Big fan Brian, but you need lessons from LSV on how to make your set reviews. Not nearly enough Puns!

[@Kenster-gn7hv]

wait naxrammas is being removed? i payed like 50 dollars for that

[@christianviado4865]

Not completely removed the adventure will be but the cards will stay. Also the cards wont be playable in standard. Only in wild.

[@christianviado4865]

+Kenster1996 Wild is where they wil put "Removed" card sets lik GvG and Naxx every year they will remove card sets from standard and repalace it with a new one

[@KiloShank]

Forbidden shaping turn 8 every time. Al' akir, Tirion, Ironbark, Grommash, Ragnaros, Rhonin, some of the new op minions, or that fossil 8/8 as the worst option.

[@o0O1JJ1O0o]

Giant Sand Worm would be great with Tundra Rhino!

[@6Jarv9]

6:25 "Clearly a 5cost weapon that has two attack is not an efficient weapon". Doomhammer says hello :D

[@robertjordan3155]

infest is power creap it is a 3 manna ball of spiders it is going to be fun in a spider beast deck

[@Beartail.]

It's only slight powercreep though as it requires you to either have minions in play already or be able to play 3 minions this turn

[@ToxicGent]

Eater of secrets is a great card.. and if we dont see secrets in the deck we are playing against.. depending on the deck being played, it would be a nice taunt.. such as with the druid +2/+2 taunt card. the enemy probably wont spend too much time on a 2/4 so.. taunt it..

[@R0DisG0D]

Renounce Darkness: If you don't want to play Warlock, you can now also do that with Warlock!

[@Kirinketsu_]

I will be playing Doom in every Warlock deck. Its quite common for zoo to run out of cards and get its board wiped by a spell or taunt minion if you have not won by turn say 5 to 7. Doom allows you to still be able to win after this happens. When zoo loses its mainly cause you just played everything and got board cleared or ran everything you had into a taunt, most of the time you still have well over 20 life, so you can hold off for a few turns, slam Doom at 10 mana, and flood the board again if not win with charge + POW. Control Warlock or even hand lock dosnt always have answers. Doom allows you to not only board clear, but to draw into the cards you need for next turn. Its one card that dose what shadow flame, 4 to 6 mana minion, and taping dose, but saves you life, kills everything, and draws more cards..... Doom is a Shadow Flame Minion play, that will always clear the board and draw you 4 cards.

[@HamStrokers-Ejacula]

+Kirinketsu I'm gonna play the shit out of Renounce Darkness. Casino Warlock best Warlock.

[@WnIyLkLvIiAsMt97]

So you're saying that you'd rather play a knife juggler and a hero power on turn ten, because you chose it, instead of a 10-Mana 7/7 cause the 10-Mana 7/7 is too inefficient.

[@malcomstringer4619]

also those X spells don't have to use all your mana to play.

[@AdderMoray]

People forget a very common board state that Forbidden Healing is great for: Turn 10+ You have the board, a 3-6 drop minion, and forbidden healing. With that minion you have lethal next turn. However, your opponent can kill you this turn. This is a scenario that happens all the time. Forbidden Healing lets you put another body on the board AND gain a ton of life. Even if they can prevent your lethal you'll have healed a significant amount and they'll be spending damage on your board, not your face. With Healbot leaving Standard, that's going to be useful.

[@hohoho479]

+Adder's Musical Musings yeah 20 health is alot

[@AdderMoray]

Don't even need the 20. Play a 4 drop, gain 12 health is amazing.

[@hohoho479]

you would only get 8 health 2 health per mana crystal 6 mana is 12 health

[@AdderMoray]

That's what I'm saying. You can play a 4 drop minion and still gain 12 health.

[@hohoho479]

how do you gain 12 health for using 4 mana you would only get 8 health

[@morphattack]

I always find the "let me be different, this card is amazing" attitude the worst when it comes to HS, because the short history of the game thought us that you can't predict the viability of the card without a full release of the expansion. Even more we have no idea what standard is bringing us, so Tentacles for Arms will see play in something gimmicky as Patron Warrior was in the beginning for a while along Ogrimmar Aspirant and Maiden of the Lake, becoming obsolete after the meta gets clear.

[@Slaanash]

2:20 "Competitive Priest Decks" If only we knew...

[@Lalle524]

I think eater of secrets should've been a 2 mana 2/2, since a 4 mana 2/4 can't even kill a piloted shredder, and at turn 4 your enemy is almost guaranteed to have a counter, like say Mage has a polymorph. But with a 2/2 for 2, sure he'll be under the curve, but he's also going to be at least a 3/3 if your enemy plays a secret, and don't even get me started on secret pallys.

[@magaracnadelu]

what about a card "pool of forbidden power" 0/7 minion, can't attack, that stores all remaining mana every turn that can is used only on forbidden spells...

[@derekadams32]

No one enunciates their words better than Brian "Brian Kibler" Kibler of Brian Kibler Gaming.

[@kai_to1]

Ok, i think we will see a TEMPO Priest with that "Forbidden Shaping". Think of it.

[@bloodySunday77]

Given Kibler's heavy involvement in Blizzard's events and meetings, I was afraid this was going to be a very "politically correct" review, but I'm glad to see there is little of that. I agree with almost everything he said. About 20% of the cards released so far seem cool, but the rest raise a lot of question marks and seem like an awkward attempt from Blizzard to set the post-Standard meta. I'm glad I didn't pre-order.

[@RedLoop42069]

"It was revealed by Forsen, and it is, y'know, giving up your evil ways, which is kinda hillarious to me." Sick burn toward Forsen))

[@Raxerm]

With Infest in the game, I'm gonna bet Mass Dispel is gonna see a lot more play.

[@Tentacl]

Oh Giant Sand Worm, why don't you have charge...

[@Zephlux174]

Aw, released right before the first dragon from Old Gods release. :(

[@geoffreywu4304]

"Clearly a 5 cost weapon that has 2 attack is not efficient" -Brian Kibler What about doomhammer?

[@davidstock43]

if Hunter gets a decent way to clear the board I'm going to try to make a lock and load Hunter infest deck

[@doctorbatman8520]

Didn't you hear about that new 8 mana 8-8 Hunter minion that can attack again whenever it kills an enemy minion?

[@davidstock43]

Yes but at the same time it's not exactly aoe like it costs a lot of manna doesn't have charge and can easily get killed by a larger minion

[@bluuman1]

Kibler_I_think_that_maybe_faceless_shambler_will_not_be_silencable_similar_to_faceless_manip,or_druidofclaw_maybe_wrong.

[@kliend]

Are you wearing a shirt!?!?!

[@Gration_]

One thing that bothers me is i main shaman...and i haven't seen nearly as many shaman cards as i have for every other class. Not feeling the love...at all

[@DrSpasticat]

forbidden shaping will only be played from things that discover spells like nexus