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[@shinyagumon7015]

The Natalie Portman scene is so good because like George said literally *everyone* including the audience forgot about her.

[@dominushydra]

Yep that's the main cause of Suicide.

[@jaybea365]

without a doubt my 3rd fav. Natalie Portman role ever, and that is crazy since she has about 3 minutes of screen time.

[@energeez]

the life

[@jblitzen]

The movie doesn't just show the compulsive focus of the main characters and the damage it causes, it makes us a party to it. One of the smartest and most powerful films ever made. Truly awesome, as George said.

[@dacsus]

The fact that they didn't show her daughter anymore and that the film seemed to have forgotten about her represents exactly her feeling that everybody ignored her and forgot about her.

[@kallreader7376]

The bank shootout is considered one of the most realistic Hollywood movie gunfights in cinema history.

[@anthonyramirez9003]

It is. The fact that they advance on their pos.. Combat reload their rifles. And you see Civ-Cas. The way they hold their assault rifles and how disciplined they are.

[@Cyber_Noot]

true. also i love that Michael Mann decided not to dub in typical gunfire sound effects, instead letting the blank rounds firing echo off the surrounding buildings.

[@adamantiumrage]

Except Pacino's crew and the uniformed officers would have accidentally chewed each other to shreds. Val Kilmer's speed reload is a work of art though.

[@KS-xk2so]

@@adamantiumrage I've heard that marine instructors will show this scene to trainee's and basically say "If some hollywood pretty boy can do it, you'd better get it fucking right!" Slow is smooth, Smooth is fast.

[@michaelw8262]

The only KZbinrs I've seen react to The Way of the Gun are firearms channels breaking down its shootout scene. It's a good movie, more people should react to it.

[@Tullaryx]

The eerie thing about the shootout in Heat was that two years later we get a similar event happen in real-life during the 1997 North Hollywood shootout between two heavily armed bank robbers and dozens of LAPD officers.

[@joelwillems4081]

And the only lives lost were the robbers. 44 Minutes is pretty good for a tv movie. I remember seeing parts of it in real time.

[@worsel555]

I remember watching it live as it happened and it was so bonkers, they were shooting at the news helicopters and everything. Flash forward to a couple of years ago and my younger brother who was born around that time came over to my place and I was watching a documentary on the shootout, he thought it was a movie until I explained that it all happened and he was looking at archived footage. "Wait... THIS HAPPENED? For real?" Yeah dude...

[@stompievision]

Tone Loc and Henry Rollins cameos are great little parts in this.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Makes me wonder if that scene that was inspired by that. IIRC one of the guys had an M60 or something?

[@worsel555]

@@Cheepchipsable Primary weapons used by the perpetrators were Chinese AK knockoffs, an HK91, and a Beretta 92FS.

[@grife3000]

36:56 I think you missed that DeNiro broke his credo --- he couldn't walk away from Waingro. And that was his downfall.

[@VilleHalonen]

Good call!

[@technofilejr3401]

Yep he developed real feelings for his crew. Seeing them die or get wounded so badly made him too vengeful to walk away

[@chrisn4315]

Well observed. I always felt of it as a nice example of "pride comes before the fall". Neal was screwed over by Waynegro too often, his ego wouldn't let that rest.

[@juandesalgado]

This and "Ronin" (1998) are two great action movies but not just for the action, but because of the great characters in it. In "Ronin", like in "Heat", also *everybody* is in the cast.

[@anthonyramirez9003]

Ronin is a hell of a good movie!!

[@2323stickboy]

I consider Heat, Ronin and Spartan to be a very loose trilogy. The movies don't take place in the same world but they all have a strong tonal quality that evokes the same emotional response from me when I watch them.

[@pistonburner6448]

"A bit of raspberry jam back there, yeah?! A bit of raspberry jam!!" Edited to change to the correct jam...I first wrote strawberry for some reason...🤦‍♂

[@Wittynametag]

What colour is the boat house at Hereford?

[@anthonyramirez9003]

@@pistonburner6448Ha.. Sean Bean!!! Nice!!!!

[@tedcook5197]

Another Michael Mann masterpiece that doesn't get a lot of attention: The Insider. Russel Crowe is a tobacco scientist and Al Pacino a 60-minutes TV Show producer. On the surface the story doesn't sound terribly exciting, but Mann dials the tension up to 11. I highly recommend.

[@fredgrimley8883]

Yup. Strongly agree. I think Russell Crowe should've won an Oscar for that performance of Jeffrey Wigand. He put on extra weight, had a tinge of suthun accent, and played a tobacco company scientist with a conscience to a T. And Al Pacino plays Lowell Bergman exactly as you'd want him to play Bergman. Highly recommend for this channel to do a reaction.

[@mondegreen9709]

Excellent choice. About time somebody react to that one. There are enough Jaws and Godfather reactions already, while so many great movies fall completely by the wayside.

[@deiwi]

If you're into reading, Michael Mann recently published Heat 2 book which covers Hannah's and McCauley's crew members fate from 1988 till 2000. Very good novel!

[@Joetorres3]

I need to read this.

[@robinhooduk8255]

i feel bad for mann, 2 flops and thats it career over as a director

[@TheDemonicPenguin]

Well a sequel film is supposedly happening.

[@davidp9575]

Amazing no one got in on the casting speculation of Adam driver and Austin butler for the prequel/sequel Heat 2. Although it seems like a combo of Miami Vice and Blackhat.

[@roebuckmckinney]

@@robinhooduk8255 he’s making a movie about Ferrari right now, big budget, big cast. The Mann is still the Man.

[@fallenhero3130]

I love this movie. On my first viewing, I was just going in for the Pacino/DeNiro crossover and was surprised by how dense it was. On a second viewing, I appreciated all the supporting characters and subplots. On my third viewing was when I realized "HEAT is every bit as equally great of a crime drama as THE GODFATHER."

[@nukguard]

There is another layer/connection between De Niro and Pacino. Both of their characters were Marines. They were brothers in that way. That's another reason why holding his hand while he died was important.

[@fredgrimley8883]

That's right. Very few people get that ... and it shows why they have that respect for each other.

[@fredgrimley8883]

​@@TheSYPHERIA It's right after Neil and Edie hook up. When he gets out of bed, you can see his eagle, globe, and anchor tat on his arm.

[@Cadinho93]

Heat is one perfect standoff/duel film. It's a battle of minds as well as one of firepower. Al Pacino and Robert De Niro at their best. The diner scene between the two legends was unrehearsed. They just showed up and shot it in the most natural simple way possible. Also, the reason that shootout sounds so good is because they used the actual sounds recorded during the scenes, rather than add them later in post-production like every other film. It makes it crazy authentic and the choice to cut the music the moment that the shooting starts, really focuses your attention on the sound of the gun fire, how it echoes between the buildings and the bullet impacts. These directorial decisions by Michael Mann are why this scene is considered the gold standard of film shootouts.

[@MightyDrakeC]

The documentary I saw, they said that they tried to do the sound in post. But, nothing sounded anywhere near as good as the real thing. So, they gave up and used the production sound.

[@jblitzen]

There's a lot of well known trivia about the film. One peculiar one is that George (or Simone as we have to call him now) assumed that the view that Neil and Eady enjoy early in the movie was CGI because it looked so good. He's only slightly right. The scenic view is actually a perfectly real shot, but they couldn't get it with the same settings they used to film the characters in front of it, so the actors are looking at a green screen which was replaced in post by the very real scenic shot, but they're actually standing at the actual spot where the actual scenic footage was captured. There's no CGI or location trickery or sound stage or anything, only the chroma key used to blend the two shots. The movie's commitment to authenticity is legendary, and nearly every modern movie with any practical or authentic choices can be traced back either to Heat's influence or the influence of movies influenced by it.

[@VilleHalonen]

Funnily, "Oh no, he eats sandwiches weird!" describes Seinfeld better than "A show about nothing."

[@VilleHalonen]

Also, is it just me or does anyone else see Vincent as pretty unlikable? It's not just what does, but how he is. Except when he's with Neil, his eyes are distant, hard, and cold. Compare that to how much life and empathy Pacino expresses in real life. It's kinda scary how good he is.

[@mondegreen9709]

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

[@fuzzy__dunlop]

One of my top 3 favorite movies of all time, AND we got a pretty solid Simone "woo" at the end.Edit: 9:17 - Simone is so talented, she can speak without moving her mouth. Impressive.

[@TheBrugdor]

Is there anything she can't do?

[@aimmethod]

The shootout at the end was chillingly realistic, especially the sound effects.

[@chameleonvr4]

@@TheBrugdor Kekekek

[@o0pinkdino0o]

play the harmonica whilst riding a unicycle

[@ShiftyWolf117]

Z

[@grumpynovelist]

"This movie was awesome." Exactly what I felt when it came out. I was 20. The shootout scene is still the best piece of realistic action I've ever seen.

[@youpigfacetv]

I remember watching in the theater and viewers were just stunned how great this movie was. Masterpiece!

[@jp3813]

30:21 She does NOT look like Mia Malkova. 34:38 Note how the light from the tunnel represents Neil being "home free", but then it goes dark again and he changes his mind. 40:33 The purpose of that last Natalie Portman scene is to emphasize Vincent's decision to stop chasing after Neil. If there was still a chance to catch the latter, the former wouldn't have gone home to discover her still alive in the tub. Basically, these men would've had better lives at home if they weren't so passionate about their jobs. This film famously inspired Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight in the same way that David Fincher's Se7en (also from 1995) inspired Matt Reeves' The Batman.

[@jp3813]

@shasiiishi4281 About what?

[@markmosley3547]

This is a perfect example of how actors can elevate a script. Heat is a remake of a tv movie also by Michael Mann called LA Takedown. The dibner scene is nore or less lifted directly but the addition of Pacino and De Niro is truly magical.

[@martinholt8168]

What I truly loved about McCauley walking away from Edie was that it inverted the whole 30-seconds idea. If he had approached her, she would have ended up an accomplice. He didn't walk away to save himself. He walked away to save her.

[@chrisleebowers]

He walked away from the *money.* He did that to save her, not him. He could probably get away with "If we get caught, I'll just tell them I took you hostage" but by walking away, she's scott-free with zero suspicion. (And she has the money!)

[@arcaris9399]

Dont want to spoil anything but in regards to Eady you should def read the novel Heat 2.

[@shainewhite2781]

One of the greatest action crime movies ever made! The shootout during the bank heist is one of the most realistic shootouts in film history!

[@chrisleebowers]

What I love about this movie is how grand and operatic it feels, like a legend about a historic clash between mighty ancient world kings or something, and yet everything about it comes across as so *real,* and plausible and detailed and granular and exhaustively researched and grounded.

[@brom00]

The Michael Mann film I'd love you both to react to is his third, "Manhunter" from 1986. The first movie to feature Hannible Lecter, or as he's referred to in this film, Lecktor, played by Brian Cox. I'd venture to bet you'd both like it more than 'The Silence of the Lambs".

[@dogawful]

I did enjoy Manhunter. Cox did make a really creepy Lecter. I hear his voice on the radio McDonalds commercial and I think, "Hannibal Lecter wants me to eat at McDonalds." The Red Dragon film follows the book much more closely though, and I think Ralph Fiennes does a fantastic job as Dolarhyde.

[@thehondolorian8779]

This was over 20 years in the making! The way Val reloads his weapon is apparently shown to military. Score is amazing with ending song by Moby God Moving Over the Face of Waters. Just epic. A masterpiece

[@aeneasfate]

Hugh, the person that ratted them out, was played by Henry Rollins who was a prolific punk/rock singer from the 80s to late 2000s. His casting required specific approval from Al Pacino.

[@cluster_f1575]

Upvoted your post for the Henry Rollins call out!

[@OnTheRocks71]

I absolutely love the look of this film. Michael Mann became an early adopter of digital cameras not too long after this, but I think those lost a bit of the film magic this movie had with it's lovely wide lenses and very natural camera movements. Great locations too, filmed with the very unique eye Mann seems to have. You could see it back in the 80's when he was in charge of Miami Vice on tv.

[@mojoshivers]

Ooh. This is a good one. The action scenes are fraught with tension and just seem super long but in a good way, following the action where others would cut away. Also, the scenes where Pacino and Deniro just play verbal cat and mouse are still chilling. Two masters at work.

[@CumpasFilms]

THIEF is a great Michael Man movie. A great companion piece with Heat. These movies exist in the same universe. When DeNiro says a guy told him he shouldn't have anything in his life he cant walk away from in 30 secons, the guy is the main character in THEIF.

[@technofilejr3401]

🤯🤯

[@earthien]

Saw this in theaters back in '95 (TWICE). The shootout scene with surround sound is unmatched. And the diner scene with Pacino and DeNiro is the best showdown scene in cinema... and it didn't involve shooting or throwing hands; just a couple of guys having a chill conversation over coffee.

[@TheinterfaceTvSeries]

Bit of trivia, it was EXACTLY 30 seconds from the time McCaully sees Hannah coming for him that he turns his back on Eady. Count it out for yourself!

[@_Tim115]

In 1989 Michael Mann directed LA Takedown which was originally meant to be a pilot for a new television series that never happened. LA Takedown ended up been a prototype for Heat it's one of the few times a director has had the chance to direct a movie twice based on the same source material. Heat 2 is also in Pre-Production according to IMDb.

[@NascarDrivingJesus]

HEAT was supposed to be a feature film, and after initially having no interest in directing himself, Michael Mann cut the original screenplay down 100 pages and made the failed pilot. Then after the success of THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS, easily one of his best films, he dusted off the original script, wrote the 1993 draft and decided to make it with De Niro and Pacino. Mann said in a 1996 interview the two aren't comparable in either conception or execution. HEAT is a real movie that cost $60M, the pilot cost like $500k and was shot in one week. The prequel/sequel is not in pre-production. Mann was interviewed recently about his upcoming FERRARI with Adam Driver and said it hasn't been greenlit, yet.

[@mediumvillain]

Made into a detective story, but inspired by the big LA daytime robbery that resulted in the creation of SWAT teams (which have ironically been used mostly for raiding private citizens homes rather than the active shooter situations they were intended for).

[@kyleshockley1573]

@@mediumvillain Yeah, well, when you militarize a police force (or any governmental agency)...

[@Cheepchipsable]

He directed Manhunter, which was the also first Hannibal Lecter movie.

[@GorramT]

Heat 2 is a book only

[@quietman71]

This is a story I like to tell whenever talking about this movie. I first saw Heat at Broadacres Cinema in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, in 1995. It was a packed house, and for 170 minutes, everyone of us was riveted. Our eyes were glued to the screen. The bank robbery, in particular, was both amazing and scary as hell. The sounds were coming from all around, you felt like you were right in the middle of it, and you wanted it to stop. At the end, when Hanna held McCauley's hand, people started to get up. They weren’t leaving or getting ready to leave. After a few seconds, it became obvious that we were all standing up and SALUTING the movie. By the time the movie cut to black, everyone in the theater was standing. That had never happened before in a movie I'd gone to, and it hasn't happened since (though a similar thing happened a few weeks ago when I went to see Oppenheimer). Afterward, we were all out in the lobby. Everyone was giddy, dizzy, eyes bugging out, breathless. We were all talking at once. We couldn't believe what we'd just seen, and everyone agreed we'd just seen a masterpiece.

[@isabelsilva62023]

The change in Al Pacino's eyes when he pushes the bathroom door demands real talent.

[@Kaitschi]

After Godfather 1 & 2, the best Movie ever made. Pacino & deNiro having Coffee is pure Movie-Magic. No Explosions, no CGI-BS, just the two best Actors ever having a great Dialogue.

[@joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo5330]

You should watch The Last of the Mohicans! Another great film directed by Michael Mann. Starring the incomparable Daniel Day-Lewis.

[@Chris-ImperialAerosolKid]

Same guy in both too. The native American guy

[@barbarino2000]

Magwah!

[@williamblakehall5566]

I literally had nothing better to do this moment than to relive Heat with you, thank you!

[@abelaberdeen3757]

Among the many great things about "Heat", it was the first time DeNiro and Pacino worked together on screen. 🥰

[@tylerfoster6267]

Re: rooting for Neil and his crew: There's a quote that I want to attribute to Ebert, but I cannot find the quote. In any case, it was something to the effect that one of the most interesting things a character can be is good at their job. When Danny Trejo was younger, he fell into the criminal lifestyle and was a bank robber himself, and even went to prison. A few years later, after he'd turned his life around, he was working as a drug counselor when he was invited on the set of Runaway Train, where someone he was counseling was working and was concerned about possibly relapsing. He ended up getting cast as an extra, and mostly played little bit parts as heavies and muscle through to 1995, when he had a great part in Robert Rodriguez's Desperado and also this movie. He was hired as a robbery consultant, but Mann remembered him from a movie from the 1980s and gave him the part of the last member of the team. That's probably why the character is named after him -- it was sort of a chance decision and the authenticity of the robbery scenes are because of Danny, and Eddie Bunker (who had a role as the last Reservoir Dog in that movie), so it's like a little tribute to him, and of course Mann probably isn't attached to whatever name was in the script, which is unimportant. Trejo said years later, when De Niro appeared in the Machete movie, De Niro said, "Danny! It's your starring role, man! I knew you were going to make it when we were doing Heat. You had it!" and Trejo replied, "Can I get you some coffee, Mr. De Niro?" What's especially crazy to me about the diner scene is that Mann resists a two-shot that contains both of them in the same frame, from the side of the table. The only frame of the movie with both of them is from inside Neil's car looking at Vincent out the window, and Neil is out of focus. I get why Diane Venora's character is viewed as unsympathetic, but I think you both underestimate the degree to which he *is* promising something he fails to deliver. He's right that it may not be a good idea to share what he sees every day, but her complaint is that he is not *present* even when he's with her; he's thinking about the job and catching his next target. A good example is when he comes home and learns that she's going out. He considers doing the dishes for about five seconds, which is already less useful than having a conversation with her about the fact that she's going out but would at least be a normal thing for a husband to do, but instead decides to go check up on what Neil's doing, leading to the diner conversation. I also don't think what Lauren (Natalie Portman) does at the end is motivated by her mother, it's more the callous absence of her dad. I think she likes and respects Vincent (as they say, she chooses him), but her actual father is clearly a huge emotional burden for her.

[@thomasknash]

Besides RESERVOIR DOGS, Edward Bunker is in a 1978 movie called STRAIGHT TIME (based on Bunker’s novel No Beast So Fierce) starring Dustin Hoffman. If you haven’t seen it, highly recommend.

[@tylerfoster6267]

@@thomasknash Great movie. Also, a rare crossover of the two best and most prolific character actors: M. Emmet Walsh and Harry Dean Stanton in the same movie.

[@thomasknash]

@@tylerfoster6267 plus Theresa Russell, Gary Busey, and Kathy Bates!

[@tylerfoster6267]

@@thomasknash It's an arsenal of heavy hitters but I think Russell really walks away with it. She is so good in the movie.

[@joemckim1183]

@@thomasknash Another former criminal turned actor is Tony Sirico who played Paulie on The Sopranos. He was a connected guy in the 60's and went to prison and came out as an actor. But he was mostly a background actor until The Sopranos. He had bit roles in Goodfellas and Gotti(Armand Assante version).

[@InsolentMusicalPeasant]

One of my all-time favorites. The shootout on the street was incredible in the theater.

[@PapaEli-pz8ff]

Oh yes!

[@st3wi3D]

I Regret NOT seeing this masterpiece in the movie Theater. sigh

[@arklytte]

Went to see this with my two best friends. We were expecting a great action movie (DeNiro AND Pacino, amirite?), but what we got was an absolute masterpiece. We also got half deaf from the shootout scene, but it was SO DAMN WORTH IT!!

[@sspdirect02]

26:21 This shootout manages to make the sound of dead silence more deafening than the sound of all those rounds being fired.

[@tywco]

I never paid attention to cinematography before this movie. It blew my little teenage mind. And seeing Wes Studi in a role that wasn’t milking his heritage- Two thumbs WAY up.

[@Johnny_Socko]

Wes had worked with Michael Mann on "Last of the Mohicans" a few years prior, and he heard through the grapevine that "Heat" was in the works. So he called up Mann and said, "Michael, I heard you're making a film with Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, and me." 😂

[@tywco]

@@Johnny_Socko Haha. That’s great.

[@fredgrimley8883]

For sure. I'm a half native myself and I get tired of the native tropes that usually follow actors like Wes. But to see him as another part of Hannah's team was great. Not once was there ever a mention of his native side. As it should be.

[@travistrewin528]

I met Dante Spinotti and he very kindly gave me his autograph. His cinematography took this film to the next level. Superb.

[@tywco]

@@travistrewin528 Very cool.

[@earthien]

The hand-holding at the end is like two of the best sports competitors, one emeerging as the victor, complimenting each other like "Good game, good game." Additionally, the cat-and-mouse pursuit was shot in a way that either one of them could've won, and it still would've been a satisfying conclusion.

[@ChrisAdamscomedy]

Fun fact: the scene where DeNiro and Pacino meet and they say to each other that they will not hesitate to shoot each other was actually said by the real cop and criminal this story is loosely based on. Chuck Adamson, the cop was a consultant on this film and they used his story in the movie.

[@Ur_Quan]

Speaking about symbolism, I like the moment beginning @34:42 how there's the smooth gentle light around the Eady's face, but then as the Neil's decision "to take care of something" grows in him, this light turns into darkness.

[@Ryokohbi]

One of my favorite movies of all time. Every character has a deep and fleshed out story.

[@The-Underbaker]

The scene with the two having coffee together is one of the greatest ever!

[@KS-xk2so]

Al Pacino revealed recently that he played his character as a secret cokehead lol which explains some of the more manic scenes.

[@MattMichaelVO]

The red-head cop with mustache, on Pacino's, team is Ted Levine, the same actor that plays Wild Bill (the serial killer) in Silence of The Lambs. He's such a good actor that it's almost impossible to believe that it's the same guy.

[@Patriiiiick]

We watched the bank heist scene in the classroom during basic training to show the proper way to move and fire during close quarter fights. It was the one lesson that didn't make me fall asleep due to the ear splitting sound. I'm sure they used to crank the heat up in there so we'd fall asleep and they could give us a bollocking and a load of press-ups.

[@MightyDrakeC]

I saw a retrospective where Val Kilmer talked about the shootout. He said that he'd had several US Marines tell him that they used that scene for training. And that the drill sergeants told the recruits, "You had *better* be able to change a magazine as fast as this actor, or else..."

[@KS-xk2so]

@@MightyDrakeC Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

[@Daveyboy100880]

What a movie! I saw it when it first came out, and though I was 15, I was a little young (or too unsophisticated a movie watcher at that point) to truly appreciate it. A big deal was made of it being the first time Pacino and De Niro were sharing the screen and I wanted to be a part of movie history and see it at the cinema, and then they share like 1 1/2 scenes together and that’s it?! I didn’t know what all the fuss was about! And the movie has no villain, no clear morals… the explosions weren’t big fireballs and there was no cool slow-mo or snarky one-liners. I just wasn’t ready. But then I rewatched it a few years ago and was completely blown away! All the stuff I missed when I was a kid landed full force and I was hooked. Remarkable piece of cinema, and I knew that George and Simone, or Simone and George as they are now, would dig it! Fun fact: the diner scene between DeNiro and Pacino was filmed with two cameras, one on each actor, so that the reactions we see were the genuine reactions to each others’ performance and matched each other take to take. The majority of the shots used came from the 11th take. Masterclass of acting. No histrionics, no posturing, no chewing the scenery, just two of the best screen actors in history at the top of their games.

[@blabla48076]

Props for the shout-out to Mia Malkova by George. She's a great... actress too.

[@patrickdepew4976]

I don't see the resemblance between her and Judging Amy, though.

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

The best piece of acting Tom Sizemore has ever done with just a look at the diner customer. Not many people can look so menacing without needing to get up

[@JamesWhoMakesGames]

Thanks for this one, Cinemommy! You too Simone.

[@pirobot668beta]

Crazy detail: the sounds of gunfire during the 'Big Bank Shootout' were recorded 'live' and not dubbed in after the fact. The blank-firing guns they used are almost as loud as real ammo, so the sound-design team decided to stick with the natural sound. The 'open expanse echos' could never have been duplicated in a studio. Did you hydrate today?

[@Bringmethehorizondude]

George name dropping a Mia Malkova made my day

[@azzamat001]

I remember when HEAT first came out at the theatres. It was so engrosing at the time, and on every other viewing I've had (about once every ten years) it never fails to still impress. HEAT has held up very well, despite it being nearly 30 years old.

[@ozcanison]

Kevin Gage (the actor that played Waingro) did a short stint in prison when a medical marijuana business he had got shutdown on a permit technicality. But he was apparently a model prisoner, and was unanimously called "Waingro" by both inmates and guards!

[@johnt8636]

The sound during the firefight was amazing. Best I've ever heard in a movie. And most accurate.

[@timothyhedrick5295]

@17:40 I was in law enforcement for 32 years and have always loved this movie but this scene has always really bugged me. With Kilmer drilling the safe and the alarm being bypassed it would be simple to prove the intent to steal what was in the safe without them having to actually walk out with the loot. Any sentencing difference (if any) would be negligible. And if they were armed there would be additional enhancements.

[@daseguin]

How would they know he was drilling the safe? Like Pacino's character said, they only saw breaking and entering.

[@_LilRascal_]

I figure Pacino wanted an ironclad case. The beat cops were down to take them in and see what sticks but Pacino overruled them

[@timothyhedrick5295]

Kilmer’s character was drilling the whole time during the breakin. When he’s told to stop and walk, he even comments to Deniro, “I’m right there!” Plus they left the equipment in place when they flee. You could charge them at any time without their carrying any valuables out of the building. I still love the film but it is a factual flaw they’d get a weak charge/sentence for it.

[@bencotton9414]

22:24 - this is the first scene I've ever seen where the enemies sit down, speak civilly and show each other respect ❤

[@ianjardine7324]

One of the best action movies ever made as you pointed out realistic explosions without stupid fire balls and as a veteran I loved the shootout scene if you watch every member of the crew is in sync practicing strict fire discipline and covering each other while moving or reloading this helps show just how professional they are and is a level of detail even war movies rarely get right.

[@NialasDubh]

Lately it seems like every few days you appear in my feed and I audibly cry out "YES" because you've chosen another absolute top-tier film. Long may it continue.

[@johncampbell756]

Based on events from the 1960s. And originally written in the 1970s. The guy playing Wayne Groh went to jail, and everyone there called him Wayne Groh. She's got a great ass was an adlib.

[@ThunderbackOG]

The Bank-Heist shoot-out was so beyond anything ever put to film back then it set a new standard for realistic action movies. It is still SO FRIGGIN GOOD all these years later. The sound design alone... OMG.

[@ThunderbackOG]

When good movies were just that. Good movies.

[@mrtveye6682]

I loved that movie when it came out, but it still has grown on me even more since then. It really became a timeless classic. Thanks Cinemone & George for another great reaction. ;)

[@grife3000]

Cinemommy.

[@mrtveye6682]

@@grife3000 I just thought I give it my own little twist ;)

[@davidhutchinson5233]

The music during the helicopter scene and Pacino night driving is an epic scene all by itself. The name of the song is New Dawn Fades. First done by the Joy Division. Then this version by Moby.

[@shatterquartz]

Obviously the bank robbery is the action climax of the movie, but the psychological climax is when DeNiro and Pacino have the conversation. There's no pretense or dissembling on either side, they're being brutally honest with each other and you sense the grudging respect they have for one another.

[@kevinbarber7640]

This is one of my fav movies. I got one of my copies actually signed by Danny Trejo. Fun fact when I got to talk to him, he was only a consultant on the bank robbery scenes in the beginning. When he was consulted about the big shoot out, he said it needed to go a different way (the script at that point had everyone going in guns blazing), he said, no, that isn't how it would happen. Mann loved his collaboration so much, he put him in the movie!

[@joemason6319]

And his character is actually named as a tribute to GILBERT Trejo, Danny's uncle, who Michael Mann met while shooting a TV movie in the 70's.

[@SpartanG062]

The ending is amazing. DeNiro and Pacino trying to kill each other but they held each other's hands because out of all the characters in the movie they're the only ones that understood each other.

[@woozertoo]

6:38 that shot of DeNiro evokes the iconic artwork “Pacific” (1967) by Canadian artist Alex Colville.

[@MakeOrwellFictitiousAgain]

Best gunfire sound effects in movie history 👌🏻

[@ADifferentVibe]

Because they ARE real. Firing real weapons with blanks.

[@DailyDamage]

I saw this movie in London when it first came out. That shootout scene in cinema Dolby was so visceral and intense that the whole cinema was left in stunned silence. Watching that scene with headphones and on a smaller screen just doesn’t do it Justice. Eitherway, another great review by my favorite two 😘

[@hw2508]

There are so many great stories about this movie. The end at the airport reminds me of the end of Bullit.

[@Gavrev]

The best writing leaves you with an understood respect for both protagonist and antagonist, the VERY best makes you root for both. The hand holding was such a humane touch.

[@MaikeruNeko]

I can't remember if it was just a choice of Pacino's or if it was cut from the film/script, but Pacino played Vincent as a cocaine user, which explains his bombastic nature.

[@thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117]

Left on the cutting room floor is a scene where we see Pacino doing coke.

[@TTM9691]

Are you kidding? They should have left that in! It definitely would have changed the audience's perception of the character. But it defintiely makes sense, and he DOES play him like a cokehead, I can totally see it. You know what? Maybe Mann didn't want the accusation of ripping of "Bad Lieutenant". In '95 "Bad Lieutenant" was still very much in people's in minds. Hell, it's STILL in MY mind! (now THERE'S some movie reaction gold that no one has mined yet, huh? Bad Lieutenant. Jeeesh!)

[@sean-ito_kel1336]

This is actually based on a true story that happened in Chicago. The detective that AL PACINO portrayed worked on the film.

[@demonofelru3214]

Saw this in the theater when I was 15. Great movie!

[@michaelw8262]

"You explore the notion that cop and criminal are really two aspects of the same person. See every cop movie ever made for other examples of this." This movie always reminded me of The Fugitive, because it's as full of tropes as they come, but it's just done really, really well.

[@migiplayz91]

The shootout scene was by far my favorite part. This movie is so badass with a star studded cast

[@aodhanclarke4098]

"Told you I'm never going back" one of the hardest lines in cinema. Both kept their word at the end too. (they didn't keep it in the edit tho)

[@SatanicKale]

I was just wondering why so few people have reacted to this movie. Watched it not too long ago because it was free on KZbin and I was heavily entertained

[@_FH.]

Love Cinemommy George & Cinedaddy Simone. Time with them is my favorite times of the week.

[@hawkstyle5311]

Michael Mann at the height of his powers. You should also watch "The Last of the Mohicans" "Miami Vice" 2006 and Thief all super solid Mann films

[@Ovrkyl]

If for nothing else, the reason to see this film is the coffee shop scene between Pacino and DeNiro, the first time they've shared screen time and had dialog ever. As I understand it, there was a rough profile of the required dialog and the two actors ad-libbed the scene in one shot. Pure cinema magic. Also the shootout escape scene has supposedly been used as an example to demonstrate proper techniques in firearm combat because of its authenticity. But hands-down this is probably my all-time favorite movie for good reasons. It's a masterpiece in every way. Huge cast of awesome well-known actors with well-developed characters, gritty realism, the tension and adrenaline is paced properly, the pivotal moments are awesome, and you end up not sure who you want to win because they're all so badass.

[@davenz000]

I like the new George better. Sorry old George.

[@prollins6443]

George definitely had a glow-up!!! Simone......not so much.

[@zachharris3040]

Y'all are rude. Know it's a joke but still rude.

[@TheDarkKnight-es9ty]

​@@charles7836charles the loser with the little weenie

[@TTM9691]

De Niro had a good year in '95: Casino came out at the end of November, and a few weeks later Heat came out! Two three-hour movies, one with Scorsese and Pesci - always a good time - and one with Pacino, the first time they acted together.

[@kojiattwood]

Additionally to this already great cast, any film that has Buffalo Bill AND Francis Dolarhyde is epic.

[@Mikey_Sea]

"I made Ralph f**k you, because it makes me feel good." 😂😂😂 Love Pacino.

[@vyros5]

The first heist was inspiration for a heist mission in gta 5

[@buzzmongold]

Deniro said the diner scene was one of his favorite shots he has ever done in his career

[@REChronic54]

They should watch Dog Day Afternoon, which also has Al Pacino in it. Probably one of the best movie bank heist fail.

[@SuperWhofan1]

Nolan uses this movie over and over for inspiration for Dark Knight and Insomnia for example. The Pacino DeNiro meeting was Joker Batman and Pacino and Robin Williams

[@jaketrickett9813]

Robert DeNero is playing Harold Shipman in a new movie, it’s called The old dear hunter

[@businesssecretsofthepharao8901]

That’s a good one!!

[@robertpearson8798]

The restaurant manager is an actor named Bud Cort and was in a movie called Harold and Maude, a film that’s criminally ignored and unreacted to.

[@gregghelmberger]

I never would have mentally connected Amy Brenneman and Mia Malkova, but now I can't unsee it. Thanks George.

[@d4mdcykey]

That shootout in the street remains the best I've ever seen, between the thunderous echoes between the building the entire thing is a prime example of choreography, pacing, editing, and sound design.

[@quietman71]

40:35 You were wondering, is the subplot with Lauren was to show how Hanna's life could damage those around him, or if it was to show that he is truly a good man. The answer is, YES. It's both. He is truly a good man, dedicated to helping others... and his single-minded determination to stop guys like McCauley and his crew does a lot of damage to the people around him without his realizing it. And I agree: this movie SCREAMED past. It is one of the fastest three-hour movies I've seen.

[@DerMoerpler]

Not only do the almost three hours fly by, at the end you feel like you watched a whole season of TV worth of story and character development. I mean, the getaway driver gets more of a backstory and motivation than some major characters in lesser movies. It's one of the most efficiently told films of all time.

[@elmonitorrr2978]

One of the best twists is the coffee break between the two Masters of their craft. Such a good scene with a lot of tension.

[@Shiny7054]

This is the kind of movie they just don't make anymore. It's a measure of how cinema has evolved that today, this would be made as an 8 episode series on Netflix or HBO

[@WhiteYao007]

The sound mix for the bank shootout is spectacular. They originally planned on conventional sound effects for the guns. However, the audio of the blank rounds echoing off the buildings in downtown LA was so realistic and haunting that they kept it. The clip of Val Kilmer's tactical reload is still used to this day as an example of how you should reload in a shootout.

[@asolondev]

I watched this randomly on Netflix a few months ago and was like "What the hell why is this so good." I had no idea haha +1 for George being cinemommy.

[@TampaCEO]

This has to go down as the greatest "cops / robbers" film of all time. I've seen the film a few times, then watched about a dozen reactions. There are very few movies that I can watch dozens of times and still enjoy them. This movie is one of them. Thanks for another great reaction.