Heather Mac Donald: The Diversity Delusion

[@SquirtlePower809]

God bless this woman!!! Sadly, she speaks SO BRILLIANTLY on college campuses, but the students are so hyper brainwashed they get NOTHING out of it. In fact, they ACTIVELY misquote her, misrepresent her words and arguments, and purposely ignore the things she says-- just so they can scream that she is a racist. It is wild!!! I hate that I work for higher academia! I wish I had been a professor in olden times.

[@elenatramsti5176]

Four years later in 2023 this presentation is just as relevant.

[@SquirtlePower809]

Yup! Because the truth she was speaking about has only grown worse and more real. I despise my own field of higher academia! I LOVE being a teacher, but I am actively searching for a new career which is heartbreaking!

[@d.marques4700]

Heather McDonald is truly a National Treasure! Thanks, Heather, for a job very well done!...

[@tgriffin3059]

Well said. I admire her intelligence, but ESPECIALLY her courage...

[@SolamenteRecords]

Brilliant, as usual...

[@USMC0311PurpleHeart]

Three cheers for Heather! [Retired Psychologist]

[@Roboto129]

Thank you Miss McDonald! Thank you from a child of an immigrant family. My background is irrelevant, what you are saying is pure common sense. Glad to see people finally speaking out against the 'diversity' non-sense. I never understood all the pseudo religious approach to its benefits. Like communism, it needs 'dogmatic' adherence as it cannot sustain any type of logical analysis. My family came from South America. OK, maybe the food and music are enticing to some people. Wow, wow, but how on Earth does that make you better at tax law if you are an accountant or better at three phase motors if you are an electrician or a better clinician if you are a medical professional? How? The standard answer is that 'you can understand persons of that background'. In other words, you can expand your market in that area, hence it is just marketing, good for the person selling the service and the customer purchasing the service, all about the transaction, not the benefit of ;diversity'. Additionally, I have seen more persons of a foreign background become victimized by other people of the background they trusted. Finally, my father told me back in the 1980's: "All that support for other cultures is only good for famous people like artist, as it makes them come across as 'sophisticated', for politicians because it helps them get votes and for rich people that can claim to be open minded because they have some foreign friend in their circle that is just as rich as they are and lives in the same place they do. For regular folk like us, it means nothing, neither good or bad, focus on getting your own education and doing the best work you can." 40 years later, he is still right, his advised paid off. By the way, it is true this junk is corrupting our education system: Anybody that thinks that getting a college degree from an English speaking country (USA) implies mastery of the English language is sadly mistaken. Every company I worked for in the 21st century has people with college degrees that cannot write you a one page report in proper English and you can't understand no matter how much you try. When you try to bring it up, you are told to keep it to yourself and the people from Human Resources that shove these hiring practices down to those that do the actual work do not have to deal with the problems they create. On the other hand, I have relatives that live in Germany and France and they have not abandoned their common sense yet: you will not get a degree from their universities without being fluent in their languages. That is how it should be everywhere.

[@albertgrant1017]

Absolutely !

[@pinchebruha405]

Wow….. sounds like none of those students are or will ever be happy in the United States at all… 😢 damn that was just scary

[@lorainefrancesv]

People keep legitimizing the stupidity, when did discrimination become legal?

[@thedrunkenchefs4577]

Our educational institutions fail minority students starting in kindergarten and continue failing them through their university years. That is the problem. Meritocracy matters.

[@kennethlopez6527]

She's awesome. Candace Owen's turned me on to Heather. Girls --- Heather hair looks super cute !!! Like her style

[@michieleverett4739]

Heather Mac Donald is an intellectual and brilliant spokeswoman of many things race being one. Being a young boy during Jim Crow. I was lucky as my father was in the military so child hood up bringing was multiple cultural and we traveled offended even to foreign countries as a family. Mom and Dad were married 69.year and church was most important. The reason I think so highly of Heather Mac Donald is that she point directly to problems in black communities and can offer solutions to help better the black communities but maybe because she's white no wants to listen to a while women about black issues. They say who does she think she is. What she is, she threatening to our so called black leaders black politicians black activist as well as black historians. Find out who her black intellectual friend are and you find out about her.

[@lando167]

We q

[@sflasaint811]

Love the truth.

[@hossskul544]

17:09 this represents the caliber of the typical loudmouth thugs we're dealing with thats had their voices amplified through technology, that have been foisted into the public conversation that were supposed to all take seriously, I don't think so.

[@copernicus99]

Some interesting points. 1:20:35- those causes are 'cultural and behavioral'. But what is the cause of those 'cultural and behavioral' differences that contribute to socioeconomic dysfunction? Could it be the history of slavery and discrimination against blacks since the dawn of this country?

[@bdc1117]

Of course, but it's a question that requires a lot of nuance given the bad demographic trends since Civil Rights in the 1960s. Many blame welfare and other socialist policies creating a permanent victim class, but there was also backlash against Civil Rights. The core problem, though, is that victimology excuses and tries to justify bad cultural and behavioral decisions rather than actually addressing them. Always diverting the conversation to "what about slavery?" doesn't actually serve the descendants of slaves or offer them a vision or way out of their current problems. Affirmative action and preferential hiring practices have been operative for decades as a means to counteract the legacy you're talking about, and today we have the direct beneficiaries of those policies claiming that racism and white supremacy are still firmly entrenched, so apparently that message was lost, and meanwhile no one is forcing black women to have most of their children out of wedlock, although welfare pays them to have more of them.

[@dks13827]

IQ. Why won't she say IQ ?????????????????????? or lack thereof.

[@honestjohn6418]

I love how withering Heather sounds when she parrots lefty dogma

[@JordanG-ds1ii]

about the cops not being able to protect your safety...what exactly is there job? What do they get paid for? Do they only protect the ADL? Do they only protect the SPLC? Who can they guarantee safety to and who, besides you, can they not guarantee safety to.

[@johnj9267]

what's wrong with maga hat?

[@jaycee30865]

Donald Trump is a moron that’s what’s wrong

[@elenatramsti5176]

I agree.

[@copernicus99]

This is an easy talk to give when there is not a single black person in the audience..

[@johnathanabrams8434]

These cacs are big time hypocrites

[@JordanG-ds1ii]

is trans the new black?

[@chelsealynch3327]

No do not compare genital mutilation to black people it’s disgusting when people do that.

[@darkflyonwall]

Heather, I've noticed you speak differently with a predominantly white crowd than you do with the Black Interviewer you talked with frequently.

[@georgefranko7788]

That’s capital W for White people you raayyyycist.

[@deejay2267]

I do agree that quotas aren't a good thing. I don't think she is representing this argument honestly, however. Going by her theory one would assume that virtually all minorities and women just get placed in programs rather than earning them. One could also come to the conclusion, based on her theory that people are being systematically disqualified for positions in schools based on the fact that someone who looks like me has gained entry. This simply is not true. She speaks about the victimhood culture and how the left promotes it. Even though this is true in many cases it can also be successfully argued that the right plays this game as well. Here is the deal. When you have two sides complaining about separate subjects they still have one common bond. They are both complaining! I will say that what she is saying isn't without merit. I do find however that she is doing the very thing she is supposedly railing against. She is playing the victim card. I say that because she isn't pointing to or offering any solutions. She is simply lodging complaints. Unlike some on the left, I'm not going to say that she doesn't have the right to say what she says or that she is completely wrong. I will say however that I've watched a number of her talks on this subject and I find a common theme in all of them. She seems to really go after the black students for being in elite school as if they have no right to be there. Let's be real. Even before the time when women and blacks were allowed in universities we still had white male students who went to schools that based on their entry scores either didn't belong there or might have trouble there based solely on there GPA and sat scores before admission. The reality is there are a variety of reasons why a student score what they do. It's also true that not every university student graduates with honors. Some just squeak by and others do well but aren't on the dean's list. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to experience Harvard or Yale? NO! The myth is that somehow a black student being admitted into Harvard will take away from another student. Considering they only make up 5.35 percent of the total enrollment at Harvard I would hardly call that a black takeover. I think it's also important to point out that considering we make up roughly 14 percent of the countries total population being 5 percent of the enrollment at Harvard isn't overrepresentation by any stretch of the imagination. I think this issue is being overblown on both sides of the aisle. The other point she makes that I take issue with is her talking about the skills gap. I do agree there is one however she conveniently skips over how to solve this issue. I may not be as decorated academically as she is by I see one thing right of the bat that can actually help solve this problem. my solution goes beyond race. standardize education across the country. we have it here in Canada and it works. This way you are receiving the same training in public school regardless of what part of the country you live in. this way the poor and middle class literally get the same shot as the upper class to get ahead. I am a realist. I understand that this won't affect things overnight. however, where you will really see the fruits of this will be from the kids who were in kindergarten the year the standardized education went into effect. It will be noticed when they start applying for college. Though I don't agree with everything she has said I think it is very important to let everyone have a space to speak. I do agree with her on not getting rid of old literature. I agree that people should be able to challenge it but to me, that is exactly the reason why you should have to read it. even if you don't agree with the content it makes you a better more enriched person having read it. at least that way if you want to debate its merit you have more to add to the conversation than simply saying its bad or level or racist. you can actually present why you feel that way. I find the left has some good ideas however their approach to solving things is flawed. pretending something doesn't exist doesn't solve anything. knowing what the opposing view is and thus knowing why you don't agree with it is important and I think that is being lost on this generation. the ability to be able to bring opposite views to the table without shutting the other person up and realizing that just because you disagree doesn't make you have to be mortal enemies. I apologize for the grammatical errors however I felt this needed to be said and I used voice to text. Bottom line we need to find common ground instead of pushing for the division of people. This goes for people on both sides of the aisle.

[@soua6086]

she is going after the blacks and latino students because of the low scores to get into school.. (different standards for them) which i agree with her on this issue

[@deejay2267]

@@soua6086 listen to the way she speaks about it though period because if you listen to how she frames her arguments it's not just an issue of simply low score black or Latinos getting in but she frames it in a way as if any black or Latino who's in higher education has to have a lower score which just isn't true. Now I agree that if I'm going to be admitted into a university or college that I would like to think that I'm qualified to get into the program that I'm applying for otherwise I stand a chance to fail or at least a greater chance anyway. The issue that I have with the way that she frames this however if she goes into these colleges and universities and for all the talk that she does about people being looked at differently because people will assume that there are an affirmative action entry she doesn't help that fear by going into different colleges and essentially telling them hey look if you see a black guy or Latino guy in a class with you chances are he got in at the expense of someone else and that's the problem that I have. So if you want to say you don't agree with a quota system I actually am on board with that because I don't feel that a direct quota system is the answer I feel that the answer is doing things to encourage people who aren't traditionally in certain programs whether they be minorities or they be women to take the proper courses leading up to university so they're prepared and have a better shot of getting into these programs where they may have been underrepresented in the past that way when you have someone who applies for this course you have someone who has the prerequisites in order to get into that course. I have watched a lot of Heather's programs and although she does make some valid points she does come off a little heavy-handed on the whole minority thing is if she has some sort of bias or even possibly doesn't like them and to be fair she comes off the same way towards women too and I find it interesting that even though most of the time when she's speaking speak at places where everyone shares the same viewpoint as her so she usually doesn't get any pushback however the few times where I have seen a little bit of pushback in terms of her going heavy-handed on the fact that black people were just getting in yet they weren't qualified and someone basically challenged her on that she essentially dismissed it as well it may be a few of them but for the most part they all get in under qualified and that's the problem that I have becauseif you have a person who gets into Harvard and let's just say that in order to get in the Harvard the lowest score you could possibly have to even be considered would say be a 1100. If you are a person who gets admitted into the college as long as your scores aren't under what the requirement is to get in the college does reserve the right to admit who they choose based on different requirements and the funny thing is SAT scores are just part of it but they also look at GPA and other things. The other thing that I find interesting is the fact that she and others seem to be hung up on the fact that there is racial consideration or gender consideration when it comes to admissions in places where traditionally these people were underrepresented. And it seems to me that she as well as others are making the push that Latinos and blacks simply just aren't smart enough as a way of having a backup plan for when affirmative action is lifted and suddenly the enrollment rate drops they can say well the reason why they weren't admitted is because they were letting in all these people who were under qualified and now that affirmative action is gone they just aren't qualified to get in when the reality is the true barometer to whether there's discrimination going on is not in the admission rate but rather the application rate because the admission rate will go up and down anyway however if the application rate for blacks for example in 2020 was 12%, and then suddenly at the end of 2020 affirmative action was dropped and then you saw in 2021 that the application rate for black suddenly was 6% instead of 12 that would lead me to think that there were some shenanigans going on. Because the actual admission rate I believe can go up and down and it's subjective as to why it does it could be argued that it could be racially motivated but there could be a million different things that could cause that what you really need to look at is the application rate because suddenly if you notice that the number of applications of that school has dropped significantly after affirmative action has been dropped then that would tell me that something was wrong. And I have no issue with affirmative action being dropped because ultimately you would think that things we get to a point where you would no longer need to do that however the one thing that I don't hear any of these people who are against it bring up is what they would do to ensure that things did not go back to the way they were before I think that if they actually made a sure and how things would not go back to the way they for I believe that a lot of people who may be leery of affirmative action being removed would feel a lot more comfortable about it being removed if they knew that the schools would do their best to be fair in terms of admission processes and would not fall back to the way things were prior to Brown versus board of education. As a black man myself and someone who has a university education I know the importance of it and I want to see representation of our people there however I don't want us to be tokens either. One thing that I do think is interesting though is they keep saying that underrepresented people are getting into things that they shouldn't because they're not qualified yet they're getting the positions anyway but the way they're framing it they're almost making the person who went and got that education out to be the victim or the bad guy I should say when in reality what is wrong with getting an education so if the school needs to make changes then so be it but to make it seem like the woman or the black guy or the Latino guy did something wrong because they applied for a course and got accepted that's not their fault not to mention the fact that very interestingly for the people who are making the big complaintabout Harvard's admissions and the fact that somehow blacks are getting an edge over Asians and Asians are being screwed into deal one thing to think about. Black people in this country make up 14% of the population yet they make up 5% of the school enrollment at Harvard so looking at it in terms of percentage of population they're actually underrepresented however Asian Americans make up 4% of the population and 18% of Harvard's student enrollment so looking at the percentages they are overrepresented but somehow Asians are getting screwed I don't quite understand it I know it's been 20 years since I was at university so my math may be a little rusty but the last I checked 18% is three times the amount of 5% and then some. The way people go on about this you would swear that black people were taking over college campuses that there were so many blacks getting on to university campuses for higher education than it was just causing other people to not be able to get a an education. Nothing could be further from the truth and the reality is for as much as someone like Heather McDonald rails against affirmative action she herself whether she wanted to or not was a direct recipient of affirmative action considering that the number one beneficiary of affirmative action has not been black people but has actually been white women. And ask for her saying I don't know what can be done because there's such a skills Gap between black Americans and white Americans which I agree there is a problem what needs to be done is the same thing that is done here in Canada and that is have it across the country the same standardized education for all public schools so whether they be in a suburban area or an inner city they're all being taught the exact same thing so then that way when it comes down to going into university or college no matter what part of the country you're from you have a fair shake and you have been prepared the exact same way for post-secondary education that is the answer it's very simple it's just the government needs to get on doing that Canada does it and other countries around the world do it and it makes a big difference because as great as the United States is the United States for colleges and universities does not rank number one nor have they in years education wise and this doesn't just apply to minorities it's talking about the country as a whole we are lagging behind other first world countries and that's the reason why we are so worried about the haves having access to quality education instead of everyone having access to it that we are having large groups of people fall behind United States is a great country we just need to do better with education and one way of doing it is standardizing the education across the board so whether you're in Beverly Hills or in the Appalachians it doesn't matter you're going to get the same quality education and that way everyone truly will have a fair shake. Yes I said a lot I apologize for rambling but I think it needed to be said and I'm using talks to text but seylind I'm not disagreeing with you I am simply saying that there is more to it than what she says and if you listen to her talks it does seem like she has a bit of a bias

[@sicajes6812]

i don’t believe in quotas or affirmative action..

[@soua6086]

yes maybe the way she frames it isnt true, but because of affirmative action and quotas, it is hard for anyone who did not get accepted to think like this.. the problem with affirmative action is it doesnt promote “fairness” or equality but diversity among people.. affirmative action has divided more people around the world than it has helped.. i dont believe in quotas or affirmative action as well.. Have you heard of Thomas Sowell??

[@deejay2267]

@@soua6086 yes as a matter of fact I have heard of Thomas Sowell. He's a very intelligent man and although I agree with a lot of things that he says I don't agree with everything that he says but you know that's the beauty of things that people have a right to have different opinions and having an open dialogue a lot of times you end up learning a thing or two on both sides and it's good that's the reason why I think people even if they don't have the same opinion should have the ability to be able to exchange ideas rather than just shutting people our ideas aren't exactly the same however we do have some common interest here but the funny thing is if we reacted the way that some people do when they hear an opinion it sounds a little bit different than their own we would have never caught that and I think that's the biggest thing that people need to learn how to communicate even if they're not always agreeing

[@rosemarykoumbassa1636]

Imagine being this close minded

[@soua6086]

how?

[@reality8605]

@@soua6086 It's been a year I don't think Rose is going to formulate a response. Typical.

[@JordanG-ds1ii]

massa koumbassa

[@deathlarsen7502]

awesome Heather didn't glorify the 60s! that was the beginning of the end of USA

[@copernicus99]

The end of the USA was the deregulation of the free-market capitalist economy, breakdown in the social safety net, and the glorification of greed. All made possible by a 3rd rate actor named Ronald Reagan and his 'piss-down' economic policies.

[@admetric]

I love her!

[@Fragmentofbone]

You love racism😢