Heaviest Hang Snatch Ever, Koha Retires, & Lasha vs Lovchev | WL News

[@CaliforniaStrength]

Great insight Seb, thanks for sharing that piece on Maddison!

[@WeightliftingHouse]

No problem! Looking forward to reporting on the the rest of the team soon

[@derekyun5109]

sangyeon lee(KOR) recently started his own youtube channel and posts most of his training seshs there. 역도리 is the name of the channel

[@The1juhi]

The perfectionist in me absolutely loves the time stamps !!

[@WeightliftingHouse]

I love that KZbin now offers this

[@liftingiq8658]

Yeah, same. I think it increases the audience retention too. If somebody gets bored in a segment they can easily skip to the next segment rather than clicking off the video. With better audience retention that means KZbin will suggest this video to more people, which hopefully means that more people will be introduced to, and find a love for weightlifting!

[@flippino35]

@@WeightliftingHouse yes thnx for timestamps

[@nelsonchen7823]

love the unbiased reporting, seb, top level journalism here!

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Trying! I save the biased reporting for the Morning Brew...

[@LiftHeavy]

This knee injury retirement is a total BS. Just 4 months ago when she was filming with Torokhtyi she was talking about her long term plans and her potential rivals in sport. Not a single mention of any injuries. She just fell in love and completely lost her noodle. It happens in life. But it's a shame it happened to a future Olympic champion. Explain to me how else a young, healthy and strong woman decides overnight that life is much better in a beekeepers suit as a stay at home mom?

[@coachcoopfitness]

Thats the religion of peace for ya

[@hern_n]

@@coachcoopfitness yup, but if we dsre even criticize the slightest we become intolerant racists

[@adarshsingh9231]

I don't know why religion is so high on some people's mind 🤦‍♂

[@LiftHeavy]

@@adarshsingh9231 probably because it drastically changes how people behave and choices they make.

[@TheMrmovier]

@@adarshsingh9231 probably because islam is one of the most strict religions in today's world and practically forces women esencially change the way they look/act/dress/think and it heavily restricts the activities they are allowed to partake in .

[@mzsax]

I love this format for your news show. Watching videos while you talk is great. Thanks for all the effort producing these videos

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Much appreciated!

[@juancontador3]

I'm biggest fan from Brazil! We don't have many media channels talking about weightlifting here, almost zero. I've learned a lot about WL and developed my english with your videos. Love your content, keep going.

[@ErikTails]

salve

[@DPZ-cx7gy]

Qual site não pago vc recomenda pra ficar bom no inglês ? Eu entendo muito pouco .

[@ivanraynovski7886]

The Chinese Nationals 81kg category will become significantly more competitive than World Champs 81kg category. Mad.

[@Dnordsmark]

Dude the Chinese 81kg category is fucking stacked, one of those guys is going to be the new Lu-tier legend in the future.

[@TaonTintti]

If there were no restrictions, Olympics would just be Chinese nationals lmao

[@jeremysamuelson9922]

thanks for sectioning off the video. its really going to help a lot of people!

[@Nikita_Turbo]

Really appreciate you doing all the chapters, I dont have an hour to watch the whole thing, and it lets me just get to the clips i'm most interested in

[@doda4731]

For those wondering what dehyrdochloromethtyltestosterone is is Turinabol. Popularized back in the day by the east germans. It's a altered dianabol actually. Relatively weak comparatively but also less androgenic so SOME women could possibly take it at a low dose and not at least obviously suffer masculine promoting side effects. Its weak nature also has the benefit of not adding water weight and throwing people out of their respective weight class. Over a long enough time line it CAN add lean muscle mass or aid in recovery. I'm curious what they do to supplement the person's own natural testosterone production as all steroids tend to shut you down. I'd further wonder (if they do supplement the person's test production) what they do to keep estrogen levels at bay. A benefit and sometimes consequence of turinabol is that it basically unbounds and frees up the testosterone you use to be utilized for what you all come to think its solely for.. building dat muscle. However when you free up this test it also means more of it can aromatize to estrogen and turn into dht. Of course you could use a a.i like arimidex and even letrozole but then your anaboloc trail is becoming even more obvious via testing..

[@alfonsorodriguez6437]

Not only her knees are a problem but also the fact that she may be planning to have a baby now that she is married.

[@theoneaboveall6768]

That’s crazy how religion can brainwashed ppl 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ if she happy then good for her but damn that’s a bummer for fan or lifter of her weight class

[@TaonTintti]

She's going to disappear from the face of the earth. Not in even her parents will see her again. Good luck to her.

[@theoneaboveall6768]

Tao sad really sad I wanted to marry her 😂😂😂 but joke aside I really like her lift she was fun and would connect to her audience I don’t know what brainwashed her to make such a drastic choice I mean I don’t think she knows herself what she got into but good luck she is a nice woman

[@TaonTintti]

@@theoneaboveall6768 You know what brainwashed her, or who..

[@theoneaboveall6768]

Tao 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂 sad really sad

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Subscribe for Koha's return Time stamps in the description Straps are on point Support WH at www.patreon.com/weightliftinghouse

[@berrydinglejr]

Klokov’s 200 pause snatch, and that’s a looonnnnngggg 3 second pause at least, is more impressive than his 200 hang snatch by a long shot.

[@reneekies7852]

Rebeka inspired me in my whole weightlifting career😇

[@alanlawson6669]

Why is there only 26k subs. Should have a bloody gold youtube button ! Loving the content guys 💙

[@piscator2813]

Thank you so much for this wonderful content!

[@13007a]

@Weightlifting House. Heaviest hang snatch was by Artem Okulov, successful 190 kg. He was ~85kg then

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Yeah I put that in the video. To me that's the most impressive.

[@kathirvelgounder9673]

This is just an amazing channel, so informative, subscribed !!!

[@io3204]

I don't think it is all that easy with Rebeka Koha's retirement, but I appreciate you cannot speculate.

[@finleyaustin7018]

Thankyou for the mention at 44:01 appreciate it

[@anthonystavenski4738]

I love these news posts Seb. I look forward to them every week. Keep up the good work!

[@harrison_caton]

This is my first time watching this channel. And my goodness, this is exactly what I would want of sports news!!! Quick bullet points about what's going on with enough commentary to keep it interesting and bring up ideas but not so much that you think "get to the point". Well done man!

[@plantybara]

13:33 LOL Dude I watched a weightlifting comp from India and they had spotters to catch the barbell after a snatch... could not believe my eyes, can't find the video anymore. I can only imagine what spotters would look like under a Lasha 250+ clean / jerk lol.

[@flippino35]

lol what they trying to do not let plates made to be dropped drop

[@smolboyi]

Coffee with my boy Seb. Thank you, life is good

[@liftingiq8658]

From the All Things Gym rep max calculator: 320 x 3 = 338-364, depending on formula. Average of all formulas = 349 315 x 2 = 323-351, depending on formula. Average of all formulas = 334. Everyone is different with their 1 rep maxes, but I'd imagine he's probably around the 340 range at the moment. www.allthingsgym.com/rep-max-calculator/

[@WeightliftingHouse]

But those triples and doubles aren't close to RMs. I'd imagine he's more like a 320 x 5 kind of guy

[@liftingiq8658]

@@WeightliftingHouse This is true, it definitely doesn't look maximal. Though it's always so hard to tell with weightlifters--they are so explosive that everything looks easy until they fail. Okay, so let's assume 320x5 --> 360-380 with an average across formulas of 369.

[@cacurazi]

Amazing channel! Greetings from Moldova!

[@LOLAZOH]

Rebeka starts dating Muslim dude, knee start hurting, get married, deletes social media and starts to hide her body, retires "iTs HeR KnEe YoU iSlAmOpHoBeS"

[@Donari]

she was forced to retire because of islam

[@LOLAZOH]

@@Donari of course she was sadly

[@cicciopiggio1600]

That all seemed so shady, starting with deleting all of her past pics, then posting some pics of her (with him) smiling and telling how happy she is now and to not judge her decisions, and then "magically" deleting all of her social profiles. Just hope she is REALLY well and not just suddenly feel removed from all her things in life, she had accomplished a lot in the sport, and so young.

[@osigma-5713]

@@Donari WTF you mean forced? Look, nobody forced her to convert to Islam. And Islam doesn't support using force so read about other people's religion before you start running your mouths about it. Most of the shit you hear about form the media is actually against Islam stupid idiots. And yes the Hijab is mandatory in Islam. Nothing sad about it. Wearing clothes in public is also required I believe and you can't just go out naked. So why is it a problem to wear Hijab but not apply that logic to all clothing?

[@osigma-5713]

@@cicciopiggio1600 Dude...... that is HER decision! Why the fuck is that a problem? Not everything that doesn't appeal to people is bad. And yes Islam has strict rulings on clothing which is why that happened. Some honor these rules which is what muslims should do and some don't. Such as egyptian bodybuilders for example. And there are rules for BOTH MEN AND WOMEN! it's not ok in Islam to show what's between your belly button and Knee for men. So technically open bodybuilding shouldn't be allowed. Did you know that? The kind of shit you hear about from men forcing their women to wear and such is because of TRADITION AND SO-CALLED HONOR before it's religion most of the time if we are being honest! people do things that are way way worse in islam than not wearing hijab but who bats an eye? It's not as frowned upon tradition-wise so it happens. It's freaking tradition. I hate it so much when people associate islam with the acts of idiots. Do we say that x country's law supports rape when rapes happen in x country? That would be stupid. Then why do you guys keep associating Islam with terrorism and all the shit when that is AGAINST our religion? It's the people not the religion.

[@axelcossu4363]

Worst thing she have ever made... Poor Rebecca. Open your eyes

[@gabrielduarte3904]

i called it in last video.

[@gabrielduarte3904]

the knees thing, is just bs imho. i think it was her fiance

[@josephfeliciano6415]

@@gabrielduarte3904 it had to be and I hate to say it but he controls whatever she does. As a Muslim the man brings home the money and he can't let his fiance be the more important one.

[@hern_n]

@@josephfeliciano6415 and she definitely was, possible world champion wife vs some guy, sad times bois.

[@newpersonal3762]

@@josephfeliciano6415 And you know this how? Don't spread stereotypes and misinformation.

[@albinsunny6493]

Excellent video! Well done Seb!!

[@elian2702]

All week waiting for this!!!

[@sabertoothwallaby2937]

Same homie

[@rescavone6690]

Best weightlifting news show.

[@liftingiq8658]

I see that the coffee mug is washed! (or I guess it's probably a tea mug since you're UK). I love your show man-- you save me so much time, in the past I tended to waste a lot of time on instagram and now I can just watch your show for my weightlifting fix! By the way, I'm going to start chronicling my snatch progress back to 100 kg! I haven't published the video yet, but I just power snatched 82.5, so I'm 17.5 kg away from getting one of your barbells! I might have to start posting on instagram again just so I can tag you lol

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Do it! It would be great for everyone to see your comeback. I think the mug was tea this time because I recorded the episode later in the day.

[@mr.billthrower7392]

Poor girl, so misguided. Throwing away her hard work for Islam 🙄, when reality hits she’ll want to comeback but too much time would’ve been lost.

[@boringstory2849]

this is a joke right?

[@fmls8266]

@@boringstory2849 No, it's not. She's literally throwing away her career and she won't be able to come back if the stop goes too long.

[@jeremysamuelson9922]

who knows, maybe she was convinced into islam by someone close to her to get off the radar in order to traffick her. islam is a pathway to many things some consider to be unnatural.

[@mrgrumpycat9049]

*Rebeka Koha retirement due to knee injuries Geniuses : 𝙞𝙏 𝙢𝙐𝙨𝙏 𝙗𝙀 𝙗𝙚𝘾𝙖𝙪𝙎𝙚 𝙤𝙁 𝙞𝙎𝙡𝙖𝙈

[@fmls8266]

@@mrgrumpycat9049 Yeah sure, knee injury. Weirdly enough this knee injury got unbearable right at the same time she got married, converted to islam and deleted all social media. What a coincidence. Moradi came back from a broken back but a young girl cant overcome knee pain? You are the real genius here.

[@yangliu_6688]

you deserve more subscribers!

[@charlesmulliner]

Seb, Lee Sang posts his entire session almost daily to his youtube channel. If you search 역도리선수 you'll find it

[@charlesmulliner]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/npO2iaGMm9Zlrq8 is also a link to the latest vid

[@WeightliftingHouse]

I saw! In fact, I thought I actually mentioned it in this video... Must have cut it out accidentally!

[@igoruzunovic3282]

He is a bit heavier than 61 Li Fabin, and yes it was "golden era" of PEDS but in 1988 Olympics Angel Genchev (Bulgaria, 67.5kg) made some numbers that are far far away from anyone is doing now and probably won't be broken in ages ahead Snatch 160 kg and C&J 202.5 kg .. yes we can argue about stripping of the medal and erasing all the old records but nonetheless that is FUCKING EPIC AND AMAZING!!! Again Li Fabin deserves all the respect and is truly amazing but this is LEGENDARY!!!

[@christopherimantaka6873]

Pretty sure Eko Yuli has done 190 off racks in one of his earlier ig post in 2018

[@IhorKramarenko]

hang snatch technically easier than snatch. weak link is wrist. it's hard to hold without stripes. so if you do hang snatch with stripes, it's easier

[@haanswinn]

she retired for an obvious reason...

[@DPZ-cx7gy]

Much money $$$

[@landerval7882]

I read Lasha retires, I was freaking out

[@TheTillhammer]

Big boi is gonna have some trouble after the mclaren report

[@bonoboapebra2822]

What microphone do you use?

[@fg786]

There are multiple reasons for having bad knees in weightlifting. You push heavy weight all the ttime so it might just be wear and tear. But for I think what contributes the most probably is the excessive caving in when coming out of the whole. Which usually is a sign, that the quads aren't capable of pushing the weight. Why isn't this corrected by coaches?

[@FigipeGames]

Hey!!! Are the people's lifts people that u have followed for a while, or are they just featured a while after they are posted, btw much love from Portugal!!!

[@Simon-cr5ff]

News of the week.

[@nathj8390]

Match of the Day but for weightlifting. I love this.

[@thestoryofpattyb7202]

Lasha could probably out squat Ray Williams if he would concentrate only the squat

[@Simon-cr5ff]

He could probably do it right now. He never squat max weights.

[@Edgarisftw]

Simon Ah lets not get ahead of ourselves here. Enourmous difference between a 490kg squat and reps on 315kg. Maybe Lasha has the potential if he trains for it but at this point its too big of a difference to say anything.

[@Simon-cr5ff]

@@Edgarisftw He's doing ATG squats also, no bullshit wide stance powerlifting shit. He could probably do 400. Who knows.

[@Kus519]

Simon ray is pretty much ass to grass

[@SirKenshinHimura]

Got my straps today; can't wait to use them 😅

[@Íñigo-n4i]

Was not expecting Koha to retire! Ps: 😂😂😂

[@tommy2346]

Very sad that a European girl makes such a decision.. Especially at a time like this for Europe. Sad indeed

[@64wy4x8s]

Hey Seb, weren't you warning Norik about this exact scenario with Mattie Rogers several months ago? Seems like you were right. I don''t understand why Norik thought it's so implausible that Mattie would go up several weightclasses to take Jenny Arthur's spot. Jenny Arthur should have gone down to 76 (or even 71, if that's possible for her) to get some robi points in a lighter weightclass to secure her spot, there was nothing stopping her from diong that. I still think the Tokyo qualification process is bullshit, though. Leaves too much room for shenanigans like this to happen. I don't think points gained from a certain weightclass should be transferrable to other weightclasses. Especially with the olympic and non-olympic weightclasses right now, it just makes everything so damn underhanded and messy.

[@bmstylee]

People will read into Koha but I don't think 1+2=3. As a guy who has been in sports for 30 years as a snowboarder, goal keeper, power lifter and a bunch of rec stuff I can tell that knees don't heal. I've been under the knife 4 times for major and minor things. My powerlifting total currently is 540kg at almost 40 years old and but if not for multiple injuries who knows.

[@Ok-he9ze]

Tbh I actually think Lasha's double looked easier, hardly even winced. Given his height and speed under the bar, I'd say you're probably right, 1 rep max around 355-60kg?

[@PYKTube]

Like you said, it is mostly the problem of equipment It's really expensive here and spotters are there just to kinda break the fall and reduce the impact a bit Stupid But works (good for the equipment bad for the athletes)

[@bumpercoach]

cool stuff but for a guy who says so many Chinese names as a news reporter you should TRY TO LEARN THE STANDARD PRONUNCIATIONS rather than go w/ the Anglicized variety of vowel etc butcheries

[@Lineman22705]

I did finally get a shirt that I ordered. But no calendar. I guess you just count on guys giving up on items they ordered. I think you need to get your current shipping issues under control before you start selling new stuff. Be warned........you will get part of your order and only after constant badgering. Too bad because your channel is really good.

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Hey Mike, what's your order number? All of our USA orders are automated (because we are in the UK), so occasionally we do have issues. I'll happily check the calendar for you!

[@stridskuk87]

Comon .. Knee pain is not a permanent "injury" and definitely not a career ending one. If Koha in fact just ended her career at 22 becuase of kneepain the inkompetence and lack of motivation and inventiveness by herself and her surrounding is absolutly sad.

[@ashleytaylor3980]

Yes!

[@spiffykitty01]

sorry if i missed it, but how old is delin?

[@alanlawson6669]

Big Lashas squat were lighter but much better technique and control out the bottom :)

[@chrischy]

Amazing straps seb

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Thank you! I'm really proud of them

[@sklim2009]

Lasha's 315 looks more upright and his hips have more mobility than the 320.

[@MrFleix]

I’m not an expert but is a hang snatch easier than a regular snatch or why are some guys above the wr on the hang snatch

[@toximan2008]

I will take an educated guess and suppose that since the movement is a shortened version of the full snatch from the floor, that executing it for some people will be easier than the full movement from the floor, as there are fewer things that could go wrong during it (such as technical breakdowns or a misses) It is also a "stronger" position to be in since your body is loaded "top-down," thereby making your technical execution more easy. For example, why a deadlift from the floor is easier after your first rep, because when you set the bar down in a controlled fashion for rep two, the eccentric portion of the movement allows for the subsequent rep to be better optimized and then executed

[@edwardclaxton2200]

Snatching from the hang can put you in a false/more advantageous position that you might not be able to achieve when pulling from the floor

[@dwaynehumex]

because the first pull of the snatch is so difficult, and because range of motion in the hang snatch is shorter than in the full snatch, it isn't uncommon to see ppl hang snatch more than they can snatch for the floor. To simplify, you can think of as like a clean from blocks : starting the lift from mid thigh or the knee rather than from the floor requires less strength, but also less effort in keeping correct positions throughout the movement. That's why ppl can go over wr numbers in hang / block lifts.

[@Thongger]

You have the advantage of a shorter pull and also benefiting from the elasticity of muscles “whiplashing” , allowing you to lift more than you normally would. It’s like an snatch version of bouncing out of a squat , because you are locked tight at the TOP, when you lower yourself to the contact point above the knees it’s almost as if you are pulling a rubber band back and releasing it

[@sergio1133754]

Boady's 182??????

[@MrZimmerbob]

Lasha can squat whatever you can fit on the bar

[@smolboyi]

I hit my nose recently! thankfully it was just the bar, doesn't feel good lol

[@smolboyi]

also hit my chin once.. so embarrassing

[@bretrogersweightlifting4008]

Iovu has been popped with all three countries right ?

[@grymek737]

Yes

[@danai3560]

I though he said lasha retires and I was like wait WHAT😥

[@kurtisbollard1231]

tian do be front squatting 290 tho 280 on video multiple times

[@ArminKhanpour]

Do you even lift Broseph

[@tomriddle5986]

If they let Liu they should let Koklov

[@krisvalenti4141]

I suppose retirement was a better option than facing Lepsa.

[@dadgumwler]

Lasha's max is squatting Thor while Thor deadlifts 501

[@Simon-cr5ff]

We've never seen Lasha max squat.

[@mixalis6168]

Lasha in my opinion could squat nearer to 400 kg !

[@big100kk]

Everyone is an advocate for freedom until it doesnt agree with them. Even if Koha made a bad choice, at least respect her choice. Because isn't that what freedom is ?

[@1vootman]

I think as far as Ruslan N. goes, i think he is still stronger than Akbar, and Ruslan wouldn't be training that hard if he didn't think he could beat him, he knows what Akbar can do. I think Akbar could out snatch Ruslan, but Ruslan has a way bigger C&J.

[@______-im2cn]

lol you used the term "land" it in refences to the 190kg hang snatch, that is such a skateboarder term, wondering did you ever skate? love the show keep up the good work.

[@gurvijaybecker]

Why didn't Rebeka's fiancee convert into Christianity?

[@DPZ-cx7gy]

It is a joke ,right??

[@osigma-5713]

Look it's their lives and their choices ffs. He didn't and she could jave stay christian if she wanted. And guess fickin what there are muslims who don't honor the islamic dress code (Big Ramy and other muslim female weightlifters). She chose to honor it. Anything else you wanna say?

[@enisbobani5761]

Koha had a bad knee cave, so maybe that was the reason for the injury.

[@JordanWallac3]

No

[@srthyrdyjhy]

it was her muslim husband

[@JordanWallac3]

knee adduction in the squat does not cause knee pain what causes knee pain is usually doing a lot of training

[@Zlaterrr]

No, it was her converting to an extreme form of Islam.

[@guidojorgemamanicondori8309]

No. She just loves islamic money and live like a queen.

[@toeknee4301]

Lasha looks like he could hang snatch 220

[@TheTillhammer]

Why Cristina iovu is relevant in Weightlifting is beyond me. She has been caught so many times that's she is most likely never gonna be able to compete again (coughs in Romanian)

[@DM-jt4rh]

Isn’t that Jake and the Fatman music 🎵

[@ConnoisseurOfExistence]

Love this show! By the way, I know that you were talking about hang snatches over the world records, yet maybe should have mentioned the full 210 kg snatch by Khadzhimurat Akkaev...

[@muhammadghany2976]

Now i believe her fiance is brain wash her😭😭😭😭 someday she will regret her decision and i hope she will not blame the religion if something bad happen🙏🙏🙏 god bless koha and family🙏🙏🙏😭😭

[@manueljn1094]

I really hope her marriage last leterally for ever. Giving up on such a big dream because of that is not easy at all. Hopefully they both live that happy for ever.

[@Mike-cp1tj]

yay so empowering.. now that she's joined religion of peace, her human rights is same as my goat

[@osigma-5713]

Another one who just believes everything the media says without actually doing resesrch.

[@ryanoconnell6617]

@34:30 oh you mean like Jenny in 2016 😂

[@uoc10a5nguyenvan9]

Lasha can squat 1000 pound

[@devincenatiempo2238]

But even so...

[@Quis_ut_Deus]

I felt like grief when I learned all that about Rebeka Koha.

[@ryanreviews8566]

KROHA RETIRED??? WHAAAAAA

[@chachi_luna]

People knew her (kohas) knees would be her down fall

[@jonatasnobrega2676]

Could you talk about the details and technique of CrossFit athletes during barbel exercises? Every body on top 20 on has a pretty technique? CJ and snatch?

[@benbishop7512]

Crossfit technique is terrible. There are already channels run by Olympic lifting coaches where they analyse the lifts.

[@liftingiq8658]

@@benbishop7512 I agree that there's terrible technique in a lot of cases, but not all CF technique is terrible. In fact, many of the top have decent technique. I just wish it was more consistent across all CF boxes, and that they wouldn't have people with terrible form doing dozens or hundreds of reps-- that's a recipe for injury, that's for sure.

[@bretrogersweightlifting4008]

Why ? I’m sure Zack will talk about that some point. No one wants him to bring that into this show.

[@benbishop7512]

Bret Rogers Zack has touched on it in some older videos. Whilst he is complimentary of the surge in popularity weightlifting has experienced on the back of crossfit, he is not complimentary on the technique.

[@bretrogersweightlifting4008]

Ben Bishop I know I just wish he wouldn’t bring up CrossFit as much as he does. I like the Seb stays focused in weightlifting specific talk a little more. I get why Zack does but that’s where I kind of tune out.

[@halarmad]

Rebeka Koha = super weirdoooo

[@Tony_Aziz_Comunity]

Brah, do u have qusimodo(blink) of instagram in ur face?, excuse me but, i can not concentrate well :/

[@SP1x5]

It’s disappointing but not surprising to see all the hate for Islam in the comments section. Sarah Ahmed alone disproves the nonsense claim that Islam holds women back in their athletic endeavors. A quick google search will show that her family encouraged and supported her in her weightlifting pursuits and it is the same for many other female Muslim athletes around the world. Anyway its a shame to see Koha retire so early. She had a lot of potential

[@SP1x5]

bittercottoncandy explain why I’m curios

[@TheMrmovier]

of course that is what they say , public image is important . How would her husband/family/islam as awhole look if they openly prohibited her from competing in wl lmao . When all the cameras of the world are on someone they will sing like a canary .

[@SP1x5]

Moise Mircea so what you are saying is that the families of female Muslim athletes only support them because they are in the public eye and they do not actually support them?

[@Simon-cr5ff]

Lol that's one women of millions. Says nothing.

[@SP1x5]

bittercottoncandy I think it is key to judge Islam on the holy text itself and not the action of bad people who happen to be Muslims. So you mention rape, discrimination, and supremacy for example. You will see you that all of these things are firmly forbidden within the religion of Islam. In fact the freeing of slaves is encouraged and can be used to repent for sins

[@BrandonWilliams-wf6hg]

Cristina I love u

[@Алфавитныйбомбер]

Давай на русском)))

[@AdamSt-me8ed]

Im an ex muslim, I assure you islam is not a religion of peace. Koha retired becuz of pressure from husband’s family... just a guess...

[@osigma-5713]

Lmao. Guess it's your family's problem then. Because this pressure thing is more of a tradition thing 9 times out of 10. Just say that the middle east fuckin sucks (which it does) bit it's not because of Islam. Before Islam came people used to bury females alive just so you know.

[@ozwunder69]

HAS mARTY fIELD OF FIELD MEDIA RETIRED??

[@georgesmelki1]

Are these homo sapiens sapiens or just another species??