Heavily damaged Japanese battleship "Ise" in Kure harbor

[@peterpayne2219]

I'm an American blogger living in Japan, and my wife's uncle fought on this ship. We used to go over to his house and listen to his war stories on New Year's before he passed away in 2010.

[@chefboahise1109]

My name is somehow named after this ship.

[@belfast4893]

So? Everyone apparently have families that serve on all sides of the war, involved in all sort of disasters and either miraculously survived all of them or got revived somehow

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

No need to be a dick about it. He just wanted to share his story, the hell is matter with you ?

[@fellovercliff4525]

@@belfast4893 Well, until you can prove them wrong you should shut your trap hole!

[@nekonohige2]

Dear Peter Payne; Very nice of you to hear from his experience. Please also hear from those people whose family members were burn to death by the US bombing in your town. Most of the Japanese cities were bombed and many citizens were burned to death (like charcoal). The most terrible one was Tokyo Air Raid on 10th March 1945, where over 100,000 people were killed just one night.

[@russellfheim]

My father C Fred Heim was awarded the navy cross for sinking this battleship at the Kure Harbor. He never talked to me about this, he passed away when i was 13, as his only child he was laid to rest at Arlington national cemetery Grave 5151

[@wiliammenard3208]

Arlington is a special place

[@ralphdougherty1844]

I'm calling bullshit

[@AlexiaofHorus]

@@ralphdougherty1844 explain

[@SealofPerfection]

@@ralphdougherty1844 30 seconds of Googling says the story is true: valor.militarytimes.com/hero/5957

[@justsomeguywithasurprisede4059]

@@SealofPerfection 30 seconds speedrun

[@coloneltannenbusch2971]

Hi, this video was filmed on 14 April 1946.

[@ghostdiaries369]

What happened at Kure .... I see most of the battleships of IJN were destroyed there ?

[@bakkii4407]

アメリカがカラー映像の撮影技術を持っていたことは本当に幸運だと思う。 皮肉なことだが負けたおかげで当時の戦場や日本兵器の真の姿を見ることができる やはり白黒映像を見ても本当に起きたことと思えないし、CGはどれだけ精巧に作り込んでも作られた動きしかできないのでどうしても本物とはかけ離れる でもこの映像を見ていると、浅瀬に巨大な航空戦艦が着底している様子がありありと想像できる。こうしたカラー映像は本当に貴重な資料。アップロードに感謝します

[@travburg1]

This a translation of Bakkii's comment: "I think we are really lucky that the United States had the technology to shoot color images. Ironically, the loss would allow us to see the battlefield and the true nature of Japanese weapons at that time. After all, even if you look at black and white images, it doesn't seem to have really happened, and CG is a movement made no matter how elaborate it is."

[@koto-koto-11]

さすがのアメリカでも当時はカラー持ってないよ。これは現代AIで色を塗ったヤツ

[@WarhammerWings]

What a shame Ise was never repaired and turned to a museum/memorial to both sides of the war in the Pacific.

[@Raptorsified]

This could be said of the majority of the fleet unfortunately. Luckily we still have Mikasa

[@jessnalulila5552]

Considering how destroyed Japan was after the war, they had bigger priorities

[@sirboomsalot4902]

@@Raptorsified Fun fact; Mikasa was saved partially because of the efforts of Admiral Nimitz to have her restored. The Soviets had actually demanded her to be scrapped but we ignored them. It’s considered to have been a very bad restoration, but it paved the way for her to be the museum ship she is today. In 2009, in honor of their namesake, the crew of the USS Nimitz repainted Mikasa

[@Zagoreni02A]

Such magnificent ship, shame it was not rebuilt as museum,

[@MrBruinman86]

The Damage was so catastrophic it just wasn't worth it. The bigger shame is that neither the Yamato or Mushashi survived the war. Those would have been amazing to see.

[@ObamaTookMyCat]

@@MrBruinman86 there would have been no chance what so ever that Yamato or Musashi would have ended up as museums anyway, they would 100% have been test ships for the Bikini atoll tests, and they PROBABLY would have survived them. The US would not have missed an opportunity to pound 16 inch shells into them to see what kind of punishment they could have taken.

[@MrBruinman86]

@@ObamaTookMyCat You're probably right. They'd be sitting at the bottom of Bikini Atoll or scrapped.

[@RW4X4X3006]

More value as scrap or targets.

[@nitetrane98]

LOL By who?

[@potatochobit]

this thing was half battleship and half aircraft carrier?

[@ejaakawd4665]

Yep, originally it was just a battleship but it was reconstructed to a hybrid battleship/carrier after Japan lost most of its carriers in the battle of midway.

[@Slicksterzz]

They took off the rear gun turret and laid down a small flight deck. Not really useful in either role.

[@douchebagpatrol7237]

it's just half a ship now lol

[@ArvexYT]

After losing a bunch of carriers in the Battle of Midway, the Japanese started partially converting some of their battleships into carrier/battleship hybrids and even started fully converting battleships that were still under construction into carriers (the Shinano, a full carrier, was originally a sister ship to the Yamato, but was converted into a carrier.)

[@ethelredcrimmins8984]

Slick sterzz Both rear turrets. As originally built she had 6 twin main gun turrets.

[@spetsnatzlegion3366]

‘Boom boom on the front half, zoom zoom on the back half’ ‘But isn’t it a mix of the worst of both worlds, an underarmed battleship which can only launch light planes with low payloads that can’t land easily?’ ‘Doesn’t matter because it’s gonna be cool’ -ise’s designers, probably

[@patricklenigan4309]

ironically, the Japanese made the foolish choice of going backwards in carrier development

[@oveidasinclair982]

The Ise was an WWI era battle wagon built between 1910 and 1916 and like a lot of the US & UK WWI era ships, they were obsolete as all hell by 1943

[@willthorson4543]

It was actually a solid design. It wasn't missing any main guns. And the aircraft were for mostly reconnaissance for fleet ships.

[@sirboomsalot4902]

@@willthorson4543 Ise lost two turrets when she was converted, though she was under armed for the 1940s anyways so it really didn’t matter

[@remorselesscuckslayerii8276]

"I served on this ship for 2 years before I opened up a chain of Sushi bars"...- Brian Williams MSNBC achor

[@stephenfarthing485]

She was a Battlecarrier - and the direct predessor to the Kirov class of the Russian Navy. That operated as a Helecopter Missile Cruiser.

[@heuhen]

Build as an battleship, but converted to and battlecarrier when IJN lost almost all there fleet carriers at battle of Midway. and Japan didn't have time and resources to build new carriers, so these ships was converted to fill in those role, until battleships that was under construction was converted to carrier. Kirov os not an helicopter missile cruiser, if she is then a destroyer is an helicopter missile destroyer. Kirov class is an nuclear-powered guided missile Battlecruiser. most Navy ships have helicopter deck and Hangar, some have space for only 1 helicopter, most have space for 2 helicopters and a few have space for 3+ what you are looking for is Moskva-class helicopter carrier, that is armed with missiles. And that is due to Soviet/Russian Navy is about defending the home water's and not over the horizon like the American. and secondly the reason that almost all navy ships in Soviet/Russian Navy was armed with so many missiles, was due to how ineffective those missiles was, and how easy target they was. So Soviet/Russian Navy went for the strategy of sending so many missile up in the air in the hope that a few will manage to get trough. But USA just made the SPY-1 radar that was made to deal with that (multi target tracking).

[@A1V1NY]

My granpa said she is dreadnought battleship he used to use ise

[@miniadler]

Nagato was launched 9. November 1919, not 1938 ^^

[@謎姫-m6d]

主砲が空をにらんだままというのが余計悲しみを誘う。

[@ジュント-o8j]

斜め後ろからの迫力すごいよね！ あと煙突の周りが好き

[@hikatsuusplace]

My granpa served this ship and was a radio man

[@hikatsuusplace]

He died to pancreatic cancer

[@鼓舞羅-q1o]

凄い貴重映像。

[@kkhagerty6315]

It’s like a battleship el Camino

[@TheMNrailfan227]

Basically their entire navy circa 1945

[@mikebell8012]

Not one of Japan's brighter moves turning a battleship into a hybrid carrier.

[@heuhen]

they had lost most of the carriers they had, so most battleships inder construction was converted to carriers during build or battleship that at this point didn't have much value, was converted to half/half carrier/battleship in hope they would need big guns again....

[@mikebell8012]

@@heuhen I understand why they did it, it was a desperation move however she couldn't carry enough planes to be effective as a carrier and by removing her aft turrets she wasn't effective as a battleship either.

[@willthorson4543]

It worked though. Just like the heavy cruisers like the mogami class were hybrid too. Those, all the turrets were at the front of the hull. They were actually good designs. Fleet recon aircraft.

[@gruntforever7437]

@@willthorson4543 Considering their relatively slow speed, they were pretty worthless operating with the fleet. Capable of at most 26 knots when the rest of the carriers were capable of at least 32. Could only operate seaplanes which are very limited; recon only. I refuse to believe they could NOT have figured out something better then this mess.

[@willthorson4543]

It looks like it had camo on it. Grey and green and tan.

[@rogeriman9935]

Good post

[@CornBot_Exterminator]

"Ise still intends to fight"

[@schrodinger6051]

😭😭😭

[@raulduke6105]

Amazing what 500lb bombs can do

[@diegodelizsoto]

raul duke looks like a 2,000 or 1,000 lb bomb

[@knightsofthewicked9121]

Looks like more by the size of the hole in the ship

[@metaknight115]

And to think that Yamato’s deck armor was completely resistant to those bombs

[@エリンギ-h6c]

伊勢って最初から航空戦艦としてつくられったっけ？それとも、途中から？

[@青タイツ兄貴]

確かミッドウェーで空母が不足したのと日向の五番砲塔がぶっ飛んだのがきっかけだっけか

[@KV-UmarWOTB]

mm... thats not heavy damage thats a floating wreck

[@AlexiaofHorus]

I'm surprised its even floating

[@JeovahLovesYou]

I think it's bottomed out. The shore is shallow.

[@jimpolk2652]

@@AlexiaofHorus it’s not floating. It’s sunk in swallow water.

[@AlexiaofHorus]

@@jimpolk2652 oh good to know thank ya

[@ngk4279]

This is the only aviation battleship i know . Is there any ships than this one

[@Issar137]

Yes,Aircraft Carriers

[@ngk4279]

@@Issar137 i mean during the world wars

[@Issar137]

@@ngk4279 Also Aircraft Carriers

[@ngk4279]

@@Issar137 i mean ships that got a flight deck and big guns in one hull

[@kkhagerty6315]

AyAyA just her and her sister ship Hyuga, there where plans to convert the Iowa’s and Richelieu’s to half deck carriers but they where never done

[@Madenity]

They should salvage it if they can

[@tsuaririndoku]

Which they refloated her and making her a museum ship or atleast send to be sunk somewhere. I don’t like to see Battleships being scrapped. It’s kinda dishonorable

[@oveidasinclair982]

This ship looks like most of this damage was done to it while in port by US bombers

[@warp9p659]

Interesting how the Japanese wasted so much of their resources on converting these two elderly vessels into hybrid battleship-carriers that ended up serving no useful purpose whatever in that role.

[@bigwitt187]

They were desperate and didn't have time to construct carriers from scratch. They lost four fleet carriers at Midway and never recovered. They finished a few carriers that were under construction but it didn't help their situation. The Taiho was sunk 3 months after being commissioned and the Shinano lasted a week; both were taken out by submarines. By that time it was clear that ships were little more than targets if they didn't have air cover.

[@VersusARCH]

Desperate times - desperate measures. US likewise ordered a zillion light and jeep carriers (of low value compared to longer to build Essex class carriers) and managed to complete some in time as a stopgap measure as their pre-war carrier fleet got depleated. But the Japanese were also exhausted in 1943. and paused carrier operations to re-build. And the US industrial and technological superiority made a telling difference in that interlude as can be seen by the results of the Battle of the Philippine Sea.

[@lawrencewestby9229]

VersusARCH, to add to your post, the USN light carriers were constructed on light cruiser hulls that had already been ordered as cruisers and then switched to be carriers. They were definitely needed in 1943 as by the end of 1942 only Enterprise and Saratoga remained in the Pacific (Ranger was in the Atlantic and Essex was newly commissioned and still working up).

[@gruntforever7437]

@@bigwitt187 IT was more the inability to replace the Carrier Air Groups that doomed the IJN to being nothing but targets by 1944. Japan had such a draconian training program it was incapable of replacing battle losses. and also the lack of fuel meant they could not train them in actual aircraft after 1943. The IJN air groups that were slaughtered in the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot (other wise known as the battle of the Phillipine Sea) were pitifully inexperienced compared to the IJN crews that started the war; considered by most historians to be the finest group of flyers in the world at that time.

[@proudveteran4696]

Why didn’t it sink?

[@ElRollioau]

It did. It's on the bottom

[@christiandietz6341]

Why did the Japanese put so much crap so high on the ship decks? Visibility?

[@stephengardiner9867]

The Japanese big-gun ships relied in optical rangefinders and sighting mechanisms throughout , basically, their entire active careers during WWII. They were woefully far behind in radar technology. The higher a big rangefinder was sited, the further away you could detect a surface target (enemy ship) and get an accurate fix on its position in order to engage it. Their optical systems were quite good (still are...Nikon, Canon etc.) but they never came close to developing radar for main or secondary battery direction. The almost ludicrous "pagoda" towers on some of their battlewagons must have seriously affected the stability of the ships.

[@heuhen]

@@stephengardiner9867 if you see modelship of these battleships, you will see how small these pagoda is compared to the ship it self. "pagoda"

[@g2macs]

A bit of filler and a paint job and she'll be right as rain.

[@Kwolfx]

And Duck tape. It will hold anything together.

[@julioherrera1363]

Extraordinario

[@DABoi16]

Is she still alive in Japan today I wanna know please! 😳

[@lordbadman9264]

Kantai Lane no she was scrapped but she is alive and well in world of warships I have her

[@snowindafunboots4369]

Bravo Kantai..what a nice comment guy👍👍👍👍👍. I just know that theres an awesome museum with ALL the ingos and remains of the greatest ship of......

[@Abrams6578]

@@lordbadman9264 she was only added into WOWS af of today, pretty sure you confused her with her predecessor Fuso.

[@yuigahama3189]

@@Abrams6578 hyugā actually

[@Abrams6578]

@@yuigahama3189 I said Predecessor, not Sister.

[@brooksrowlett2494]

Tuskegee Airmen Us Army Air Force were In Europe. This is Japanese home port and these were sunk by US Navy carrier pilots.

[@dekcali2000]

My father CF HeimJunior flew off of the Lexington, and was awarded the Navy cross for a direct hit on the battleship Ise. He never talked about it when I was a kid, he died when I was 13 and is now buried in Arlington national cemetery. Although I do have his flight log book and in it there is mentioning of and possibly getting the Navy cross award which I have hanging on my wall right now. God bless you Dad, so we could have a choice in this free country. Never in my wildest dreams that I would think that communism would be here in this country.

[@DividedByZeero]

Great ship which was one of the few of her kind Part carrier and battleship, she want a normal battleship

[@csipi89]

when were these videos made?

[@grumsha]

Kure harbor Japan 45-46

[@chriscase1392]

What were they thinking? Wasting resources on essentially useless ships when they despereatly needed real carriers, not lightly armored seaplane tenders. Interesting footage, though.

[@asedecraft]

they didn't had the time to rebuild entire cv fleet these battlecariers were supposed to assist actual carriers to get more planes in the air and also with aa cover. didn't work that well though

[@heuhen]

they had lost many of their carriers, so they converted battleships that was under construction to carriers and converted older battleships in to an carrier battleship, they could still do escort and support missions. just like USA had both large carriers and small carriers, where the small carriers had an support role (sort of), IJN just did the same but on a larger battleship hull, so what you see is and escort carrier in the rear and fleet support/defence/AAW vessel to the front that can assist on Japans Islands invasion with both artillery support and some air coverage together with other carriers. and Japan was in need of as many ships as possible to carry aircraft... they was starting to lose in numbers against the US massive industry

[@navyreviewer]

Mmmm. Once I thought so too. Now I realise not so. From day one till the end japan never had a carrier shortage. That is to say they never had more pilots and planes then their, at the moment, active carriers could handle. Never. They were always short on qualified pilots. Building more carriers wouldnt have fixed that. This is part of the reason this carriers ended the war in the mud at Kure rather then being sunk at sea. You can see my video on the Shokaku class for more.

[@vojvoda9060]

Damage????? DESTROYED.

[@heuhen]

yes damaged, she just sitting on shallow water....

[@lingcod91]

So is it still there . . . got repaired . . . cut up and made into Honda's . . . What . . . ? Finish the story.

[@peekaboo1575]

I mirror the sentiment of many other commenters here. Ships like the Ise and the many actual carriers that the IJN had should have been preserved. It's a shame that they're all gone. Oh well, that's war.

[@muhamadatzaals.d9676]

Must be the aviation of Essex class carrier fleet :I

[@heuhen]

U.S.S. Lexington, it was Bombing Squadron 94 (VB-94), that was on that run. I just read some comments and googled a little. there was a comment about his father sunk that aircraft: valor.militarytimes.com/hero/5957 then I just googled Bombing Squadron 94 (VB-94): www.tracesofwar.com/npersons/345/Bombing-Squadron-94-VB-94.htm

[@smc1942]

I think I can fix it.... ....I'm going to need a LOT of duct tape!!!

[@phantomaviator1318]

here from wtlive

[@Anastasia_Romanova1901]

Neh Japan before wants to destroy every damage ship

[@totonariadi2489]

mana suaranya ???

[@dutchman7216]

Cool

[@mehmetisk4775]

looks like Nagato or Kongo

[@garkar908]

I thought it was the Creamofsomeyounguy

[@muhamadatzaals.d9676]

Did this

[@vectorconcepts1]

Damn !

[@brooksrowlett2494]

This color is awful. The other version on KZbin looks much more believable. Even the sky looks green in this version. I don't buy it.

[@Cyberpuppy63]

probably a failed attempt to colorize black and white footage.

[@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here]

Brooks Rowlett Fucking rich kid that always think that ww2 era filmed videos should look like a high quality 2020 video. Moron

[@brooksrowlett2494]

@@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here You have it exactly backwards. I KNOW the deterioration happens and I even have some comprehension of the chemistry responsible for the color shift of the original film. My comment was addressed to people who somehow think this is accurate color - one of the better colorizers on the internet has been apparently misled by this video to produce a colorized B&W image of one of these ships with dark green as the darker color, instead of the correct original gray that we know of from the other film version in better original color that was available. SInce you totally misunderstood my comment, my only failure is in clear communications. I would respectfully ask you to reconsider my comment in light of my clarification.

[@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here]

Brooks Rowlett I want to see you do better