Biggest and best tip for Front End Loader operators is to get a fork lift license first. It'll teach you about centre of gravity but more importantly it'll teach you to take every opportunity to lower your load and keep it low.
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Good advice...thanks for sharing!
@adelarsen97762 жыл бұрын
@W.S K.E The Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe. The world is flat. Just look at a map.
@hangskins Жыл бұрын
@@adelarsen9776tbh after reading this reply makes your first tip useless
@adelarsen9776 Жыл бұрын
@@hangskins How's that ?
@SonjiWf10 ай бұрын
I think any HEO should have to get a forklift license before operating. Ain't nothing as sketchy as a propane forklift rated for 8200LBs moving a 7500LB load up a grade. You learn really really quick that COG is the most important aspect of operating anything
@truthsmiles3 жыл бұрын
Just bought my first loader, so I’m still learning, but I’ll share what an old operator told me once when I was on foot on a working job site: “Assume I’m trying to kill you.” I like this so much better than the standard “Don’t assume I can see you” because it puts responsibility on the helpers to move out of the way instead of blindly trusting the operator to always know where you are. Even when driving my small tractor around my family I tell them to assume I’m TRYING to run over them. They stay well clear! Haha
@1EagleDave11 ай бұрын
so very true brother and dont ever forget this a great tip for anybody i was also taught this from a ole school (dad)
@edubb74915 жыл бұрын
Driving a wheel loader is like living a childhood dream . Love to drive them , thank you for the tips and tricks .
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome...and I agree. #NeverGrowUp
@andrewhope84095 жыл бұрын
Ernest Wheeler right??? Any time spent in that size of machine is a treat. I have to remind myself I do in fact get paid for it, cuz I’d do it for free. :)
@xx5zi5 жыл бұрын
I'm like that with wheel loaders, too. We have those "quiet" nights here at the DOT, where there is no weather to deal with, so we switch to our "stay busy" chores, and cleaning up around the stockpiles, making more 5:1 mix for the roads, or just high piling the snow are the jobs I jump on right away. And yep, I'd do em for free (but don't tell me boss that!)
@jakerichards12053 жыл бұрын
I love operating my cats 980m/980H but they do a toll to your back after some years of operating and loading haul trucks in some fresh strip loading area.
@bdsjr3211 ай бұрын
Good video. The third time I ever used a wheel loader in my life which was very recently, I was asked to load a dump truck (twice) close to the edge of the roadway, with a small drainage ditch between me and the truck so when I approached with the full bucket, I was going up a little embankment. I was a little nervous being a rookie, but I took it real slow, went straight in, and I did not lift my load up until I was very close to the truck, having put my front tires in the ditch before raising. It all worked out good and it was a great experience that gave me a lot of confidence. I am now finding and watching these videos to gain more knowledge before I jump back in the cab which will be very soon.
@michaelclancy45094 жыл бұрын
Safety tip: Don't rely on your mirrors. Turn your head and look behind you when backing.
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Agree...to an extent. A lot of the newer equipment has good backup cameras that actually give you better visibility directly behind you. So I think it is a balance of looking at what you have available.
@a.jcolomo47963 жыл бұрын
Yep ,piya your head on swivel.
@Andy-je3el3 жыл бұрын
The m series cat loaders, at least the 950 and up you can’t see anything turning your head. You have to use the mirrors.
@JJimmy6473 жыл бұрын
Or just don’t walk around a loader
@Andy-je3el3 жыл бұрын
@@JJimmy647 that requires common sense. And we all know how that goes.
@johanschroeder5980 Жыл бұрын
It's recommended when driving around to lift your bucket up so you can see under it or drive with the bucket as low as possible so you can see over it. A year ago a new operator drove around with the bucket halfway and totally destroyed the car of one of our truckdrivers who was finishing up for the week. The car was parked in front of his truck but the operator didn't see it. Fortunately the driver was not in his car at the time.😮
@uptopswag84462 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Vids! I have recently been hired as a loader operator this is one piece of equipment I have never run before although I have run excavators,skid steers,rollers,tractors, etc I have never ran one of these bad boys and very grateful for all your tips. I'm one of those types that don't act like I know everything and always have room for learning and your channel has taught me alot about running Front loaders safely and efficiently! Thanks again
@yeahyeahCake4 жыл бұрын
I’m an operator. Love learning new machines
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@Ham682295 жыл бұрын
As a skid-steer operator for over 20 yrs, biggest mistake I see any "loader" operator make is, traveling with the loader arms all the way up. Center of gravity can work for you and it can quite easily work against you. Operators today have it way to easy. Learn on the older equipment, you'll either learn it or you won't. That's how and where you'll get good operators. Cheers :)
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good advice...thanks for sharing!
@williambrennan7794 Жыл бұрын
That's called working it
@DeBoner132 жыл бұрын
this is great that youre teaching the basics, there are veterans who dont consider some of this, but this makes me want to give an advanced class where you learn how and when to break all these rules
@DontknowDontkare098 ай бұрын
Thats true wisdom right there.
@katchoo1865Ай бұрын
It's pretty hard to teach how to break the rules, it requires a lot of experience to know how far you can push it. You can watch me but don't try this by yourself. When certain things need to be done, they know who to ask. When you see a good operator, it just looks so easy.
@ragebeast17905 жыл бұрын
Best is to always learn on and from "oldtimers" my first was ULT160, loader was louder than todays whole stone quarry combined (together with detonations) but it showed me dos and DONTS perfectly. Wear and tear on old machines gives them that "tolerance" towards mistakes of new operators and serves as amazing "warning" if you are doing something wrong.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@Boragh924 жыл бұрын
It teaches you better cuz it's just you and the loader. The bells and whistles come later and just augment your ability.
@noname-yo6yn4 жыл бұрын
I am going to Operate a Cat 926M in two weeks but i only drove/operated an old zettelmeyer1801 Loader around Half a year ago. Was quite fun but also challenging. I hope that I'm bit going to get embarassed because there will be lots of Old Experienced Wheelloader operators There.. But we all are going to learn the new Machine this day. But i got the least driving and working experience so I'm quite nervous
@xx5zi5 жыл бұрын
I got to operate our brand new Deere 644K tonight. What a sweet machine. Lots o' power, very smooth, super quiet.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Sweet...thanks for the comment!
@BigIzzy865 жыл бұрын
Heel toe method was the easiest way to level the bucket I found. Bring the bucket down to the ground with the toe up a touch than toe down until you feel it than back off a touch so you don't have pressure to cut in. Works great when the auto level isn't working right
@fdcadet5 жыл бұрын
This sounds like it would slow down productivity not to mention the extra wear it’s gonna put on the bucket
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good tip....thanks for sharing!
@BigIzzy865 жыл бұрын
@@fdcadet not really, you're just letting the heel touch than rolling the bucket down to get the blade to hit flat. It does sound like quite a process but once you get into a rhythm it goes pretty slick and you know exactly where your edge is
@ceasarrushes81973 жыл бұрын
Another tip to keep wheels from spinning is to back drag then scoop. Just can’t over do it! This loosens up the material to grab a bucket size load versus the pressure of an entire pile. Especially with top soil!
@joegallo8383 Жыл бұрын
Waste of time, unless your trying to clean up a small pile
@mhsuitor20095 жыл бұрын
Another point on spinning tires. You’ll wear the o-rings out prematurely. Happens mostly in the start of cold weather when the tire pressure drops dramatically. I’ve seen guys throw o-rings moments after a repair because of spinning the tire right on the wheels.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good point...thanks for sharing!
@user-gj6yb2qc7e4 жыл бұрын
I have worked in extreme cold weather as in -80F and I can tell you that is false
@mhsuitor20094 жыл бұрын
17 I imagine tire pressure gets checked pretty regularly? There’s a lot of factors at play, including the different wheel manufacturers. But we always stocked up on o-rings before the winter.
@danigroot22503 жыл бұрын
got to drive a wheelloader for the first time in my life yesterday, pretty much did all of these things
@apollokylo87193 жыл бұрын
Me too haha today
@creepy5387Ай бұрын
joined u guys 3 years late lol
@waiakalulu35014 жыл бұрын
Learning on a Cat980 right now and sadly made all those mistakes in the vid. Takes time to really get the feel of when the bucket is flat. It’s a lot of fun, though!
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
yup...thanks for the comment
@camptoursandthat44395 жыл бұрын
I always pushed in level then lift level a few inches then tip back. Always fills bucket full to the back.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good advice!
@danhickling35655 жыл бұрын
Tip 6, a big bucket for light materials and busy yards can make it very easy to not see some one in front of you, always make sure you know who is around you.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@mathieucloutier46045 жыл бұрын
when scooping into a pile of fill, if youre not careful, a rock/boulder can roll under the bucket and obstruct your wheel if you keep driving forward. that will cause the loader to lose balance especially if youre already on a slope while coming up higher with the boom
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good point...thanks for sharing!
@Jkimmer5 жыл бұрын
Hit the float with a high, loaded bucket, and pull back on the stick after a few feet, If you want to have fun...
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
And change your shorts...lol
@williamchevalier2224 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this video. Im actually pursuing a career in trucking, tractor, and equipment.
@dk8320025 жыл бұрын
If you have hydro lock/unlock for attachments, font assume its locked, always check
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good advice!
@bendrinkin17825 жыл бұрын
So I’m assuming moving trees around the lumber yard on just the front wheels to make it over other rows/trucks is frowned upon?
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Nah...you do you! Lol
@dannyblack38145 жыл бұрын
I operated a 944 cat and 930 cat in the log and lumber yards back in the 70s. Love those older loaders.also used the buckets to load materials
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
That's cool....thanks for the comment!
@rodman11633 жыл бұрын
I used to operate a loader for my local DOT about 5 years ago. I moved departments and haven't been in any equipment ever since. I miss that and driving haul trucks and 10 and 6 yard dump trucks. Be safe out there y'all
@RuvenHattingh5 жыл бұрын
Learned on CAT 908 H2 not to Press Throttle to hard, it goes to Throttle Lock, Specially with full loaded bucket and trying to get it in Neutral Gear and can't find it, Keep on Switching between Forwards and Backwards, That ends up to be Exiting Thrill... Bouncing Ball!!!
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good tip...thanks for the comment!
@joelang97964 жыл бұрын
What about return to dig or self leaving bucket I’m sure that machine has this option thanks for the video
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Yes...This unit does have both of those features!
@lordpickle8424 Жыл бұрын
I was thrown on a loader with no guidance, same as the comment below, and picked up a lot of bad habits. A year later I took a HEO course, 2 months long, and 'unlearned' everything there and was 'made anew.' I learned on a 924k Cat, which has an adjustable torque setting, once I adjusted it after the course the wheels stopped spinning and the guys who 'taught' me thought I'd mastered it just because the course taught about the importance about reading the manual, lol. Still though, a lot of the stuff they taught me actually held up and was the correct way to do things. 9:49, too, I made that same mistake at first with a full bucket because no one showed me the correct way of doing things at first. HEO courses matter.
@jarydquirk30283 жыл бұрын
Today was my first time running a loader and I literary experianced al of this!!!
@billmoran935 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I found your site. Very informative
@allnamestakenlol7 ай бұрын
I recently got a sub-compact tractor and this video was really helpful, even if my machine is a fraction of the size of what you're using. Lol
@rjricdigs184 жыл бұрын
Out of all the machines that I run the loader is by far my favorite. First of all like the man said when you make a mistake by digging into the ground to far do not run over that spot ever backup immediately fill the hole then continue. And probably the most important thing I look for in a new operator is when they talk about the center of gravity. When they know their center of gravity that as a person teaching them it’s time to shut up and let them go you did your job.
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Definitely...thanks for the comment!
@zmajodbosne56905 жыл бұрын
Nice and useful video, but you forgot something most important i thik- dont change direction forward backwards without stopping machine
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@robtrowhill27065 жыл бұрын
I have been operating front end loader for over 30 yes old loaders ya make sure you stop before direction change new loader you can shift your lever from forward to reverse at max speed it wont hurt the loader hydrostatic pump pumps
@titusax3 жыл бұрын
I operate Cat loaders, more specifically 980m and h loaders, the boom or hoist stick has a “return-to-dig” that allows you to push the stick all the way forward when the bucket is far enough up(4’-5’ minimum) and the bucket will drop quickly to a pre-set level(e.g. 1’ above the ground) obviously not all loaders have this feature, and some older Cat models don’t work as well as the newer models, but if you by chance jam forward the boom stick twice, you can drop a 980m bucket all they way to the ground, that follows along with getting to know your machine. Be quick, but don’t get in too big of a hurry, mistakes happen when you push too fast, and big equipment can cause a lot of damage.
@FloHilux695 жыл бұрын
Awesome for new operators
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@michaelbearden20535 жыл бұрын
1. That machine should have an auto level setting for the bucket 2. Lift as you’re digging to put down force on the wheels to limit wheel spin 3. Carry with the loaded bucket as low as possible, that limits the amount of tilt if you were to see a possible upset 4. Float is for people with no experience, an experienced operator should be able to feel the grade beneath them. 5. Get a CAT if you want a nice loader
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good tips...thanks for the comment!
@AulinaVilanculo10 ай бұрын
Helped alot , i do have loaders lincence still looking for a job
@kellyrowell59302 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you for the tips. I ran a Case 621F (first ever loader for me) for about 2 months and I feel I did "decent" and continually improved. I have changed employers and now am running a Komatsu WA270-8. On both loader I feel I learned quick on most of your tips but I am have difficulty tilting the bucket too much and digging holes. I know the outside upper edges of the bucket is close to level with the blade. You mentioned that there are red lines on you loaders. I know I am probably thinking to hard on it, but could you explain how the lines help? I am in Oklahoma so the grounds is mostly red dirt and CLAY so when it grabs it digs quick. Thank you for your time and please continue with the tips and tricks.
@Murrabung5 жыл бұрын
Bogging/digging in the artic position is not good for the center pin and can cause them to snap. Second is not removing excess from the bucket and causing spillage as you move around. Light flick is all you need and you’ll be sweet all day. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@codenamecordon5 жыл бұрын
A very experienced operator told me that you shouldn’t turn the wheel to full lock if you can at all avoid it and also you shouldn’t be using the brakes (especially on soft surfaces) more than very slightly. Having driven an 8x4 concrete mixer for a while, I get it - preserving the surface you’re on is very important. But also, with hydraulic steering machinery (tractors, loaders) going full lock is gonna burden the hydraulics and thus the engine quite a bit. You’ll feel the difference in the long run especially if it’s your own equipment.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@SmilinTash2 жыл бұрын
I'm rather new at operating, basically got tossed into a cab and learning the hard way; but when you mean wheel lock, do you mean all the way to the left or right?
@juliusquasar15655 жыл бұрын
Although I am working towards Forklift operator certification, I am strongly considering moving up to Backhoe operation in time. I just can’t find any OSHA approved training/certification for a Backhoe right now. I heard a lot of backhoe operator jobs are vacant because those dudes are retiring and young people don’t want to do it.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Either is good. I think forklift experience/certification would be really good as well. Good luck!
@juliusquasar15655 жыл бұрын
ExtremeSandbox thanks!
@Brian-StarGazer-775 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm an Operator but load with a bigger machine a Cat 982M with a 2 pass bucket. I work in a pit
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@Deere2154D5 жыл бұрын
982 🤣🤣🤣 I remember my first time in a toy, wa600.
@Brian-StarGazer-77 Жыл бұрын
Cat 993 was my Next Toy 😅
@terrywestbrook9955 жыл бұрын
What you need to do is learn to run the old stuff. Like a 1962, 120 Hough pay loader, where you learn how to run it or it would run you. That's why I have trouble with the new stuff. I love the old and slow stuff. You can do a better job by going slow.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Would love to try one of those older pieces!
@garycb85925 жыл бұрын
I learned on a Allis-Chalmers 545. Pushed a lot of snow with it too.
@alexstromberg76965 жыл бұрын
Going slow doesn't make money
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Alex Strömberg disagree. You are making the assumption that going fast will get the job done quicker. Not true. If it has to be redone or fixed when done incorrectly the first time then slower and more accurate the first time makes more money.
@alexstromberg76965 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyMetalLearning I meant that a newer machine will just be faster due to not breaking down. Can take bigger loads. More fuel efficient.
@brandoncaldwell953 жыл бұрын
Same thing with a farm tractor. Only difference is, you're already nose heavy. Also harder to see, but the guage bar on the loader tells you well enough. Just hate how "harsh" the loader jerks and "sponge" feeling hydraulics when the bucket gains weight causing a droop/drop making you dig more. Had to correct as going into a pile but i filled the bucket way over its capacitya few times. Clutch is not so nice either. I learn this all just by pushing the tractor to its limits like you said. Helps you know when to stop. Always keep the bucket at hoodline when tranporting. Any lower it spills, and higher its at its furtherest point away frm the tractor making it more tippsy nose wise. Finer lines to play, but becomes a game over time.
@downnout95178 ай бұрын
Always be open to ideas/tips from other operators. Even if they are younger than you. Nothing worse than working with someone who has been operating for 10+ years and knows it all but butchers every floor they touch
@emilgunnary87325 жыл бұрын
Never angle bucket too much when pushing snow, trying to remove ice can bend cylinders if you catch a manhole cover or curb.The sudden stop can throw you from seat
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good tip...thanks for the comment!
@Fyyt5 жыл бұрын
I'd say you've done a few parking lots in ur life? Man holes can be nasty!
@emilgunnary87325 жыл бұрын
@@Fyyt 20 yrs of shopping centers,hospitals, grocery stores and other commercial properties,I gave a young guy that warning when he was in his skid loader but he didn't listen a day later he had a huge bruise on his forehead. I have 42 yrs experience in a skid loader
@Fyyt5 жыл бұрын
@@emilgunnary8732 jeeezz, you should know where every mh is than, lol. Yeah it's hard to find good help these days. I've snapped a few bolts and shattered a blade once before but you sure do find out where they are In a hurry!
@emilgunnary87325 жыл бұрын
@@Fyyt you do know where they are,but you get changed to a new location every few years,this year Ridgedale Shopping center
@tomekchrusciel3397 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Poland ,Than You for this movie , Thank you for reminding me of some important things :)
@jakes1975 жыл бұрын
good info . the loader is definitely intimidating to green operators .. my first ever time loading a 777 I hit the boom lockout with a loaded bucket dropping it right on the top of the side board .. the g loader is super touchy and I've come a long way .. it's the best place to be for an operator imo
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Oh lord...that would suck. Thanks for the comment!
@jakes1975 жыл бұрын
it scared everyone . me the most for months after that .. the 992 G loaders are real touchy
@jakes1975 жыл бұрын
ExtremeSandbox it was a learning experience .. non stop 777s 12 hours a day and you will get good quick or get replaced .. two years later and now i can hit 200 plus on a good day and want to do something else lol
@sogyseal79625 жыл бұрын
@@jakes197 992g is the best loader ever built. The 993 is a great loader when it's right but most of the time they aren't. I'm a mechanic and 92's and 777's are my bread and butter. Cheers to ya.
@jakes1975 жыл бұрын
SogySeal ours hasn't been right for two years . the left pedal doesn't work . it operates at full torque all day . I flip to neutral and roll all the time . after I gather enough momentum .. none of the kick outs nor the leveler works . it's screwed up
@bernardsmith60024 жыл бұрын
Am pay loader operator,i'm in love with learning new machines.
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment
@aboveitall47635 жыл бұрын
Great video. But I recommend every new or anyone who has never operated older equipment to do that. Learning how to make a machine work well without all the electronic idiot adjustments you will never be a high quality operator. Why because as soon as these special features such as auto bucket kick out, trackion controll or GPS grading go out you automatically become an unskilled operator.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Excellent point....thanks for sharing!
@keystonedaytrip2385 жыл бұрын
I agree , never fully rely on automated controls .
@gregw82325 жыл бұрын
Aboveitall 47. Also scales. In the 90's I hauled rock out of APAC Tulsa and no matter what material you were getting these operators could load you within a few hundred pounds of your request with no scales. Great operators.
@jacobscira76885 жыл бұрын
I get so anxious when i see new drivers raising their buckets too high lol
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Yup...safety first!
@cletusvanndam10585 жыл бұрын
Sandie material is different from dirt material, with dirt to get a full bucket you have to drag the top of the pile back then go back in for your load
@cletusvanndam10585 жыл бұрын
For a full bucket
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@jimcarter49294 жыл бұрын
Does Komtsu have return to dig feature?
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does.
@rsroor5 жыл бұрын
i dont understand what you mean by the float feature? i just started running a skid steer
@northmanlogging27695 жыл бұрын
its mostly for back blading, lets the bucket/implement follow the natural slopes of the ground while keeping some down pressure to knock down the big lumps, you'll feel the lever/joy stick "click" into float position and the boom will drop, some loaders click into raise position as well... Dozers, and loaders generally have the float option. giver a shot you'll like it. not so much while pushing though... just for going backwards
@swazeyyy5 жыл бұрын
No hydraulic pressure. The blade or bucket just floats using its own weight. Good for smoothing when backing up
@Jkimmer5 жыл бұрын
To add on to the other comments, most skip loaders also have this. Also, some loaders and other tractors will "click" to curl the bucket all the way in, much like the float.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Looks like good comments above. You should also watch our Skid Steer training videos which cover float more. Thanks
@willtomlinson68175 жыл бұрын
My boss catches you back dragging he would tell you those cutting edges come pre sharpened
@brandonfirkus802910 күн бұрын
Back up farther than you think you need to, that way you don’t have to articulate as much. Plan ahead for every movement, as to reduce excess travel. Have your bucket ready to dump as you it crests where you are putting the material. Those will make you a better operator.
@dipilkumarv3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to provide additional Operator CAB Protection to Front End Loader (FEL)? Did you guys ever explore this need? Basically to prevent the operator from getting jammed in the Cabin upon falling any big boulders from the bucket to the windshield of the operator cabin. I am looking for that option in CAT FEL 994. The CAB protection, hamper the visibility of the operator and will it make it difficult for the cleaning of the windshield. Please share your views.
@richthetrashpicker-upper52444 жыл бұрын
you guys are the best thank you
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
you're welcome...thanks for the comment!
@TheTheHoumer3 жыл бұрын
Looks nice to drive and work with that Machine. Thanks for tips and tricks,might go try it
@amuleamin93214 жыл бұрын
I fully learned the five mistakes. , but what i do not understand is we have different types of machines . Does it apply the same?
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean
@Tyrius82 жыл бұрын
I've been operating a John deer 344L for about 10 months now and I'm trying to master it. I'm in icy conditions now so I kearney rim pull control on lowest setting ( 1 out of 3) is best but my biggest issue/ question, I can't get my return to dig or float option to work. Do I have to set it and if so how? Thanks for the video.
@thriftshopinvestor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos
@BrowerBandit5 жыл бұрын
watching this video after years of running machines from the 70's - 80's maybe I should start running the new machines.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine...I would love to run one of those older machines. Definitely spoiled with the newer stuff!
@DMO81585 жыл бұрын
ExtremeSandbox I learned on a old Trojan 5500z with no brakes and hydraulics that only work when you give it some throttle 😂
@malancronje68055 жыл бұрын
I got an old 70's Lieberr to use for free. After a day of trying to get to know the controls I was ready to dump it over a cliff. No brakes, also throttle dependent hydraulics, non exciting bushes. After using it for a few months I could actually do whatever I want with it, so much so that when the owner who teached me how to operate it came to fetch it, he had to ask me to operate it for him.😄
@malancronje68055 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyMetalLearning I have since had him bring in a new Komatsu just like the 1 in this vid, when he asked me to operate it for him as favor 1 day, my reply was that I have never operated a joystick controlled machine. He just laughed and said, well I saw what you could do with that old piece of crap, this will be no problem for you.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
@@malancronje6805 lol....I can only imagine but guess it would be MUCH simpler with the newer controls. I would struggle to run one of those older machines for sure.
@nater46205 жыл бұрын
I have a question not related to loaders but to dozers, specifically a John Deere 650J hydrostatic 2010 ish, do you decelerate to change direction forward/reverse, or can you flip from forward to reverse without decelerating. I’ve seen and heard both ways. Just looking for another opinion.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
I always recommend using the decelerate every time changing direction, however I don’t believe it’s required. Curious to hear others opinions....
@tiffa19684 жыл бұрын
Had about 3 transmissions fail where I work because operators too lazy to decelerate
@butchiesmith7867 Жыл бұрын
I always decelerate. Was taught that from a operator, ba, then he turned mechanic. I'm pretty sure it will greatly increase the lifetime of a tranny, not to mention all the other components that are reversed at full speed. Just thinking logically, it sounds damaging. Full throttle reverse directions...
@calamity0753 жыл бұрын
Just started out 3 weeks ago, thanks for the tips, this Will help me work more productively and more precise. I'm just wondering, any tips on not spilling when tilting backwards or Taking too much in One scoop?
@rosbekyata7242 жыл бұрын
Shake some off before leaving pile , level to bucket
@jameskvlufinga67915 ай бұрын
Do you also certificate and do you have e-books for these machines?
@Eremon1 Жыл бұрын
I want so badly to get into machine operating. I've got about a 100hrs on a skid steer but health stopped my construction career in it's tracks. Working outside all winter really takes a toll on the body. Now I need to be in the machines if I want to get back into it. Effed up my driver's license as a kid so I've got some hurdles to climb.
@bdsjr3211 ай бұрын
Your health is your wealth. Best of luck getting back into it.
@landaroon77935 жыл бұрын
Reply to Brad not Landa I like to back blade by using the bucket angle to smooth the material out. May just be me, but I have better and finer control.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@RuvenHattingh4 жыл бұрын
Great Content, one think I like to know, is how to safely build a Stockpile with more or less 180 cubes... on a 8 x 15m peace of Land...
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment...we’ll see if we can do that.
@RuvenHattingh4 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyMetalLearning thanks for looking at it, the Main concern is just, how to go about to Build a Stockpile that is Safe, recently did a Stockpile and almost Rolled the Machine down the side :(
@davidsignor79315 жыл бұрын
Keeping the bucket level with the ground is also a lot easier on cutting edges specially if working on pavement
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good tip....thanks!
@davidsignor79315 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyMetalLearning yep
@ja29114 жыл бұрын
I would be surprised if that modern machine didn't have auto level on the bucket tilt - why not use it?
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
it does...or really it is "return to dig" positioning. But yes, lots of technology on these newer machines to make it easier.
@codyludwig28113 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from ur video but can you do one on how to change excavator, skid steer and other buckets like wheel loaders thats bout the only problem I having
@brendonchase94605 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks heaps.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@droppinbaums3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips about what to do if you feel like you might be in a bad position. Like if you feel like you could possibly tip over near the edge of uneven ground?
@zmann324 Жыл бұрын
Turn the direction you feel it tipping
@fastst110 ай бұрын
bucket lowering, heh, my 1970 Case and 90s Deere machines have a return to dig, stops the bucket about 4 inches off the ground.
@howcroft225 жыл бұрын
Never seen a skid steer with float. Although I don’t run them much anymore.
5 жыл бұрын
Bobcats T series 190/590/550/450 are what I run everyday, all with float option
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure almost all skids (at least any under 10 years old) should have the float option. Mainly because it is not an added accessory, just is a switch to bypass the boom cylinder so almost all have it. I would check the manual for yours because most likely its there.
@33100Gman5 жыл бұрын
Most of the time you have activate it and normally it’s tricky to do so depends on the make
@gn11075 жыл бұрын
I work at a very large power plant in michigan , i paid my dues out in the real world, learning equipment operation long before hiring in, i work with a whole lot of the best operators in the world, and if you dont believe me just ask them, they will tell you how great they are, every one of them need to watch your video and i would add that running around in a loader in top gear does not make you a great operator, it makes you an accident waiting to happen
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@bladerunner63545 жыл бұрын
No need for high gear speed on job site.
@brendonchase94605 жыл бұрын
I found if I'm going to excavate an area?! I have to level the area, before I go forward, but easier said than done. I know.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment
@JavedKhan-ue8ry3 жыл бұрын
Very good.l.am.pak
@sadeghtavakolly32044 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was very helpful
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@akcantu212 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question. When driving on the road what can I do to keep the loader from bouncing up and down at the highest speed? I have to slow down to control it there's gotta be a better way I always rather ask the dumb question and learn and keep other people safe and myself. Thanks
@jasoncarter9185 Жыл бұрын
You can raise or lower your bucket to counter the bounce. Try to time it so that when you know your going to hit a divit raise your bucket the equal distance...like how you hold a soda when you're off roading.
@Zombiehunter2_04 жыл бұрын
Ive seen a loader tip over its front and stuff
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
Yup...scary stuff
@rosshemming13475 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have learned a lot
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome...thanks for the comment!
@patriciagantz3775 жыл бұрын
Before a new operator gets in the seat , WATCH the Sr. man operate the machine for awhile ! Put the bucket down get out and look and see how close to level you are . Adjust the bucket and look again . Now from the seat look at the guides on the arms or look at the top of the bucket to figure it out . Pushing up piles a little at a time keeping machine centered until you get it figured out . NEVER TRAVEL with the BUCKET up ! It takes years to get good and a feel for the machine . Just go slow until you’re confident . Me 34years last machine JD .
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Good advice...thanks for sharing!
@simonsmith99525 жыл бұрын
I have seen operators approach downhill with overly full buckets. Never ends too well.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Yeah....that is recipe for disaster. Thanks for the comment!
@SmilinTash2 жыл бұрын
Almost learned this one the hard way with our excavator and loader. The guys at work always said "Keep your load high so you can see!". Ya. See me fall over or pee my pants maybe lol. I'm glad my instincts to keep things low is the right one.
@rodelngouettebrudia5347 Жыл бұрын
Hi I wanted to know where is this training school
@Boragh924 жыл бұрын
Don't drop a full bucket fast, watch out for holes or bumps(even small ones) while loading, and know what you're running your bucket into. I ran into a concrete foundation that didn't move, while it was buried under a pile of gravel. It'll throw you if you ain't buckled in... 🤣
@HeavyMetalLearning4 жыл бұрын
that would suck
@swinsonburkes5 жыл бұрын
Love the vid man
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@excavatorguy3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@TinasheMubaya-kn2kh Жыл бұрын
How can l know. The blade is reached in the ground
@TheOriginalBillyYO3 жыл бұрын
If you want bucket flat... Put it down crowd forward lift machine off ground abit.. then hit crowd up quickly and it'll drop the machine back down and your bucket will be dead flat.. works every time 🤠
@richardmckinney49635 жыл бұрын
How I learned was my first time I was gathering gravel to stem holes for explosives , and we used pressure sensitive caps. So it was watch where the tires are at anytime you moved.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm
@andrewhope84095 жыл бұрын
Richard McKinney Jeeeezus... yeah, that would definitely drive the point of wheel orientation home quick. “No really, watch where you’re going”.
@trevahoward28085 жыл бұрын
If these guys won't say it I will, shouldn't be on a shot with caps and a loader at the same time
@richardmckinney49635 жыл бұрын
@@trevahoward2808 then you can take and haul five gallon buckets from.a pile of either 3/4 or 3/8 rock to each hole to stem the holes. Now there was like between 6 to 10 feet between the holes, and we was using a very small loader.
@Deere2154D5 жыл бұрын
Learn how to set your kickout, you're angled down. Ecss electronically controlled suspension system works off an accumulator. Traction control is not technically traction control per say, it works by dropping your rim pull and adding more hyd power to your bucket. Wa600 has a dial you can go from 0 rim pull to 100 rim pull. Joystick bucket controls suck and so do steering wheels.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed info.
@jakes1975 жыл бұрын
our 992 G is 100 percent torque .. the accumulator / left pedal does not work .. the learning curve has been interesting .. on a decent floor I've gotten used to flipping it in neutral after getting enough torque to travel as far as I need . definitely not recommend. been like this for two years and no one cares to fix it because I still load more than 150 on a slow day . so oh well I reckon
@Deere2154D5 жыл бұрын
@@jakes197 stupid is a stupid does. Not saying you but if it was fixed you could possibly get that one or two trucks more an hour maybe more which would pay for the down time and parts. But what do I know I only run it.
@jakes1975 жыл бұрын
Deere2154D lol yea it's a funny bunch here ..I'll be happy when they figure it out .. for now I'll keep hoping for a decent floor
@ThomasTk305 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Doosan 200 over that 270 anyday. Doosan has the float option for traveling with a load. So much smoother of a ride.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
We love our Komatsu! Has that same float feature to smooth out the ride.
@arthurevans56082 жыл бұрын
cool i may have try that i was wondering what this button i see does im to lazy i guess read the manual but i glad i read this comment now Thank you..
@aaronhamming9725 жыл бұрын
At the airport I plow snow at, the loader operators drive from one place to another with the bucket at full height with a 14' box plow on it. They do it to clear obstacles. It always makes me nervous.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Yeah....that would do the same for me but I can understand why they do it.
@bladerunner63545 жыл бұрын
Seems and looks top heavy but not really. That's a whole lot of machine handling pushers.Is only done because they have too, no place for rookie!!
@viuxidolearthmoving29895 жыл бұрын
thank you so much another knowledge.from philippines here .👍👏🏻
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
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@frankiemadrid90305 жыл бұрын
Good basics
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jbcowherder62105 жыл бұрын
so on my tractor/backhoe the "float" function has a restrictor built into the hydraulics to limit the speed at which the bucket can come down, it still comes down from full up plenty fast, just not warp speed. does bigger heavy equipment not also have this? a $25 flow restrictor would seem to be a good investment for any equipment owner.
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen that but it makes perfect sense and should be installed on all machines. Thanks for sharing!
@JMArtsandCrafts3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Sir, thanks for demonstrating to us how is the proper operation should be as I'm doing the same replica of this, my project DIY RC Wheel Loader Cardboard Version. I try hard to mimic all the features. Only I got reverse horn and flasher beacon plus engine sounds. Hope you come to see it and assist my work. hehe.. well, if you are okay with that. It would be great if you have some words. But anyway I'm satisfied and happy for your demonstration on its operation as it helped me conceptualize my DIY project. Thank you Sir.....
@antoniocoho63035 жыл бұрын
nice....I learned something here...👍👍
@HeavyMetalLearning5 жыл бұрын
Awesome...thanks for the comment!
@richardshort45877 ай бұрын
When loading dump trucks or road trucks don’t sit and wait for the next one with a loaded bucket in the air. This puts extra strain on the hydraulics. Especially with older loaders that don’t have hydraulic locks on should a pipe burst and the bucket drops like a rock.