Heel Heat vs. "Go-Away Heat" | Wrestling With Wregret

The goal of any bad guy in wrestling is to get "heat" ... but what happens when a baddie crosses the line and gets boring or stale? And just WHERE is that line? I examine the issue between "heel heat" and "go-away heat" and try and find the answer!
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[@Ren_the_Cynic]

Kinda bummed you didn't use Michael Cole in 2011 as an example of go-away heat. That period of heel play by play was *awful*

[@chrisbreezy3048]

I still remember Brian branding that type of heat as 'Michael Cole heat' since he was extremely unbearable to watch and listen to during that time period.

[@TheSHIELDCap]

TBH, Michael Cole was NEVER fit to be a heel commentator. Tazz, Jerry 'The King' Lawler, Bobby 'The Brain' Heenan and JBL played it perfectly.

[@rokaanalzeer]

TheManWithoutFear yeah but I would say lawlers heel commentary went from being a heel to a sexual deviant.

[@josdty9407]

@@rokaanalzeer art imitating life if rumours are to be believed

[@rokaanalzeer]

Jos DTY most likely. He did rip apart the me too movement on his podcast. Though I’ll admit he gets one w for his girlfriend.

[@EvaIowaCubsFan]

Baron Corbin messed up my order at Applebee's. That is why I boo.

[@jakesorrentino7230]

It all makes sense now!

[@SasqueEnchiladaII]

Oh waiter waiter, my salad is raw.

[@rafaelflores4968]

He burned my shake.

[@jakesorrentino7230]

Rafael Flores Dudes! He make me experience my tide! 👼

[@rafaelflores4968]

@@jakesorrentino7230 But he poisoned our water supplies, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!

[@theluckiesteh9058]

Larry Zbyszko was so hated as a heel that fans actually wanted to kill him! Hell, he was stabbed by a fan!

[@TheTangTamer]

Great example. I've been a wrestling fan for over 30 years and I still hate Larry Z to this day!!

[@Xehanort10]

In ECW the Dudleys would often find that their tires had been punctured because fans hated them so much.

[@mikecabral2420]

Honestly being stabbed was uncomfortably common amongst heels back then. Piper was stabbed 3 times. He even lined his leather jacket with kevlar to further protect him.

[@Blacknight8850]

Back in '75 when he was still a wrestler, someone in the audience tried to shoot Bobby Heenan before one of his matches. It's no surprise he decided to move on to being a manager not long after!

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

Zbyszko had betrayed Bruno Sammartino, his own mentor! At the time, people would have been more likely to forgive him if he'd beaten _their own mothers_ with a steel chair! Bruno was a god among men, the kind of superstar who comes along once in a generation- making Larry the Satan of wrestling after he left Bruno lying in a pool of his own blood.

[@thecaliforniabruh1158]

I’m glad Brian talked about his father Jim Cornette

[@Dynaman21]

Thought those tests came back negative...

[@deanarupe73]

Change X-Pac heat to Baron Corbin or Lacy Evans heat.

[@chrisbreezy3048]

Or how about Michael Cole heat and how unbearable he was as heel announcer back in 2011?

[@thebigandgreat1]

@@deanarupe73 I'll go with Corbin heat for sure!

[@fc775]

@@chrisbreezy3048 Cole has go away hewt with me now

[@hibachiagent0249]

Yeah...shane McMahon is as pure go away heat as you can get right now

[@michaelbandada9887]

Heck, he’s a McMahon and it’s a McMahon’s privilege to show up inside a WWE ring even if the fans don’t wanna see him or her (I’m referring to Stephanie)

[@almightycinder]

@@michaelbandada9887 Shane doesn't even have a financial stake in the company anymore. He's just a random employee like any other. This is little more than nepotism.

[@splitter7376]

Funny really when you look back at the massive pop he got when he returned lol

[@williamblackfyre4866]

I was saying the same thing during his last run...like every segment on both shows. I had to stop watching because he wasn't going away so I had to go away.

[@CavinLee]

Michael Bandada privilege I think it’s like a birthright

[@TheMistahWooseNetwork]

The Original Sheik defined the word heel from the beginning of his career until the end!

[@basednappa]

It's in their name fam

[@basednappa]

Wait nvm they must be

[@olschoolTonyCarter]

Abdulah the Butcher

[@josealdana7119]

How many men have abs like Iron Sheik? Zoom it, camera man!

[@TheMistahWooseNetwork]

@@josealdana7119 I think you have The Iron Sheik confused with The Original Sheik! The Original Sheik was the uncle of Sabu!

[@WhatsCheeze]

I think the best example quality heat is probably Chris Jericho - specifically NJPW Chris Jericho. He has the respect, the lineage and the presence to command an audience, but the attitude and the tenacity to be a disgusting human being (in kayfabe).

[@almightycinder]

Cruiserweight devision Jericho in WCW was also masterful.

[@stbsole]

Yes. I think Jericho just understands the audience to adjust his heel tactics to build feuds. I remember a paper view in WCW years ago when he beat mysterio in a cruiserweight title match then proceeded to effectively destroy mysterio’s leg because he wanted to keep his biggest threat from ever coming back to challenge him again.

[@gst013]

Soft talking Jericho in 2008 was the best I've ever seen him as a heel. Even though his work was amazing, he was just so despicable in every way that no one cheered him at all. His feud with Michaels that year was one of the absolute best in modern wrestling history.

[@tyrkun1624]

All heel Jericho, absolute scumfuck but that's just being good at his job

[@wstine79]

STONE COLD SOAP can't get heat. He'll melt.

[@L1am21]

stone cold sucked at being a heel.

[@spencer2745]

He was a damn good heel. From his days in WCW and the early days of the Stone Cold character before he became a face. Now he wasn't the greatest heel in 01 but he did have some good moments during that time with Kurt Angle

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

X-Pac was the Scrappy of the Attitude Era

[@wstine79]

"We don't talk about Scrappy."

[@JamesBurrTV]

@@wstine79 People always forget about Godzouki. Man, he was irritating.

[@jrcarter9175]

Scrappy always gets crap but Flim-Flam was worse.

[@chrishopkins209]

X-PAC = Poochy

[@nicksoapdish157]

Chris Hopkins Great example

[@wstine79]

Ivory had great heel heat, especially with Right to Censor.

[@Svr2021playit]

Hilarious heel character. It helps that she's a sexy (dat booty) and a competent in-ring technician.

[@spencer2745]

Ivory needs to get more credit. She was probably the best female wrestler in the late 90s and early 2000s. She carried that woman's division even though it was barely a division at the time

[@RiC_David]

Ah RTC and that bangin' theme song. People always think I'm joking but then people also wrongly think that the theme was nothing bur a siren, forgetting the mean bassline. When did bass stop being funky? When did beats stop breaking? I miss the late 90s and early 2000s.

[@KiddsWorldEntertainment]

Taylor Johns Jackie? I certainly hope you don’t mean Jackie Gayda....

[@Tikitackfouls]

@@CaptainTae and all had hot ass bods

[@A16AdamWalker]

I do completely agree with Brian about of the WWE's creative process at this point can't really tell the difference (and impact) between both kinds of heel heat, and absolutely true that any heel in WWE will have a major disadvantage over one in AEW or the Indies due to the lack of creative self-control. Now we could get into the illogical booking, over-exposure sure... but probably the biggest reason MJF is succeeding where Corbin is seemingly failing I think ties into what Adam Cole was talking about and something Brian touched on about MJF always being in-gimmick when he does interviews and appearances (I think I've seen one out of 30 where he wasn't and it was from 4 years ago). In an age of social media, even if you are a child fan and more willing to take what's on TV at face value, it doesn't mean you probably don't know half of the insider terms and workings, as popular KZbinrs and Podcasters discuss it regularly, and they can go on Twitter or Instagram and see someone like Sami Zayn try and odd balancing act between the "heel" he is on WWE TV, with genuine and heartfelt efforts to raise money for mobile hospitals in Syria. It's why I can understand WWE wanting more control over their talents social media profiles, as it can really diminish the idea that someone is a dangerous heel who can/will destroy a popular champion (not that WWE has many of the latter either these days) if you get those peaks behind the curtain as to what the person is really like. This goes in reverse as well as look at the blow-back on Seth Rollins, someone WWE is desperate to get over as a cool fighting champion who stands up for the WWE Universe, but on twitter and recent interviews (which then spread via social media) he comes over as an obnoxious corporate stooge. I mean, I get suspension of disbelief an all, but why would I cheer intentionally for Rollins when I'm left thinking he's a dick in real life, or boo and hate on Zayn when he's actually a decent person. That said best example of keeping it up on all outlets is probably Rosemary in Impact...

[@SnipingIsFun]

@AlwaysLookCool 729 Well his comments on Moxley sure didn't help

[@Natendowii]

...And he also sent Dick Pics to someone's girlfriend.

[@faelirra]

For the last paragraph is because it is theartre. Seth Rollins isn't Colby Lopez but a character played by Colby Lopez. Sami Zayn isn't Rami Sebei but a character played by Rami Sebei. I mean that's how I see it. Also I think it kind of bad for heels that get cheered, they're putting their all out there to not have their characters liked and people are cheering them on.

[@indyalmighty]

Corbin doing the "you can't see me" gesture is underrated

[@aaronhurst4379]

Yes!

[@alanbowman3554]

Baron Corbin- Acts like someone playing a heel. MJF- Acts like a heel.

[@user-jo2uv1xj2w]

MJF is a ironic heel while people actually hate Corbin

[@Jamal2504]

Prior to his injury, I'd say Tomassa Ciampa was the best heel in all of wrestling. Dude stayed in character on Twitter and was perfectly booked. Right now, Daniel Bryan is a perfect heel.

[@Supervillain725]

YES! YES! YES!

[@austinrutledge7531]

@Andre Ricardo Bryant the fan who screamed "Go back to Hell!"to that bald bastard's face probably disagrees.

[@TechnoBacon]

@@austinrutledge7531 That guy kinda annoys the shit out of me

[@mathewstock7546]

@Andre Ricardo Bryant I think you should watch Ciampas entrance to NXT Orleans 2018, you can't say he didn't have heat

[@emperorjoker9240]

Jamal Prewitt him spoiling infinity war was amazing lmao.

[@ryanmccarthy7381]

Been waiting for a video like this since first hearing OSW talk about “x-pac Heat”

[@RiC_David]

As Brian alluded, it's quite misleading to use that term seeing as X-Pac was actually only so maligned for about two years (2001-2003) and outside of that window of shame he's been very popular and a consistent highlight of any wrestling card he's on. Don't get me wrong, people could not stand him during his lame X-Factor years (and the theme song doesn't get enough blame, look up Uncle Cracker's X-Factor theme if you dare..you'll probably need to mispell the name but I forget how) but he's been beloved before and after while Go Away Heat has been in existence for decades. I always thought Jeff Jarrett in late WCW and most of his TNA career deserved it more personally.

[@JP-qn2gu]

Elias might be the only genuine heat heel in WWE. He has that ability to read the audience and find something that can rile them up

[@eeeeewewew]

People like Elias. There is no real heels. Lesner and Corbin are they only ones that people get mad at.

[@jordanakram5573]

Zelina Vega??

[@ktownshutdown21]

Alexa Bliss is great at it too. She performs her Mean Girl act so naturally that it's fun to both watch her talk shit, but then also get her ass kicked by the babyface who's had enough of it.

[@PPP-dr8ng]

Tomasso Ciampa?

[@Ashannon888]

@Brandon Linares Hey, it works. Did you see the time him and KO caused that huge ruckus just by doing that? Elias is pretty effective because he's the smarmy hipster douche you wanna smack.

[@robroberts3310]

it was Boss Man Heat before it was X-Pac Heat, it's been forgotten since Boss Man's death, but I was online around 99-00 and that's what it was regularly called

[@Djarra]

Before that it was Dungeon Heat. Although that might be a category all of its own as both the Dungeon of Doom and the Babyface they were facing, Hogan, had go away heat in WCW at that time.

[@godfather71190]

Bossman was doing multiple run ins on raw for the corporation back in 98 and 99. I remember having a magazine where fans were pissed about him being on raw so much.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

@@godfather71190 You have to admit that fat bastard got involved way too much

[@ALIAN18]

Boss Man did kill a dog, cook it, and feed it to AL Snow

[@godfather71190]

@@ALIAN18 That was after the corporation. That's when he started getting actually heel heat.

[@wstine79]

What about heels who get heat then become babyface with no reason like Alexa Bliss today?

[@speedy932key4]

Wait, Alexa is a face now?

[@SNOWQueen87-v1g]

Alexa is still a heel

[@kingofbrawl3000]

RetroAlchemist18 2000 yes and no she’s kinda in that Big Show territory where she switches if the match or story demands it.

[@Bananahammock681]

@@kingofbrawl3000 Bliss has it worse, she changes based on the background colour. On RAW she is one, on RAW BLUE she comes off as the other.

[@speedy932key4]

@@kingofbrawl3000 I wonder if they plan on turning her into a full babyface eventually

[@christopherstead1203]

Hmm. A video on X-pac in WWF/WWE and WCW?? Cool. That should be a fun one.

[@roodboy606]

I think the term ‘X-Pac heat’ is just catchy.

[@Ah-dz5rf]

Jay White probably perfected the artistry of doing both at the same time

[@dommydench4693]

On a side tangent. Imagine an Evil Doink and Undertaker feud. Damn WWE missed the boat on that one.

[@manundermask6601]

Why do you make me want something I can never have?!

[@dommydench4693]

@@manundermask6601 sorry bro

[@dommydench4693]

The Undertaker vs Doink in a barbed wire match. Just to see who's the sickest badass in the industry

[@zackreynolds21]

That’s definitely a side tangent. lol If not for it also being a wrestling discussion,it would have zero to do with the subject of the video.

[@dommydench4693]

@@zackreynolds21 i know

[@seanthomxx2694]

Baron Corbin, himself has done no wrong. His go away heat is Vince feeding any fan favorite and/or NXT call to Corbin and stifling their momentum. Ironically, this has stifled Corbin character progression as well

[@christiankallio8586]

How far is "too far" for getting heat? Why should we get upset when Randy Orton says "Eddie's in Hell" when he's basically doing what's he's supposed to do as a heel?

[@manband20]

Mocking dead relatives like what happened with Charlotte is going waaaaaay too far. I don't want to defend mocking a recently deceased wrestler like what happened with Orton, but at least the feud was centered around Eddie's legacy and Rey wanting to honor him so it wasn't an out-of-left-field comment like what happened with Reid.

[@ucookin]

cheap heat

[@honeyforce996]

I think the issue is that everything is so explicitly scripted. It's distasteful for the WWE to do that. If it was an independent promotion where the two people involved came up with the idea themselves and were fine with it then I wouldn't see a problem with it. It's one step up in imagination from, 'this town has a bad sports team'

[@speedy932key4]

@@manband20 the same thing with cm punk mocking Paul bearer, even though it was tasteless, it was done to further the fued between punk and undertaker, but when Sasha banks mocked jim neidhart, that I felt was going too far, because not only was that the second time they used Jim's death, but the only reason they has Sasha do that was so people would have a reason to boo her

[@roybledsoe24]

The Charlotte one was rough because they didn’t know but other than that it’s fine. Most of said dead wrestlers I’m sure would be fine with the promos. Most fans now probably made it through the AE and we seen and heard worst

[@Hakokoro]

Their job is not only to get reaction but also cause interest in the product. Which Baron does not cause. MJF gets heat because he sells his character and story. Baron Corbin gets booed because people don't want to watch him.

[@Ticketman99]

MJF is an "in-joke". That's it. The guy he's a copy of, Colby Covington, sells character and story. Hell, Colby's matches have higher stakes than ANY match MJF has ever been in. Baron Corbin, on the other hand... _snores_

[@fartsnstuf]

@@Ticketman99 "MJF is an "in-joke". That's it. The guy he's a copy of, Colby Covington" he's more like a white Alberto Del Rio, with some Miz's mannerisms peppered in

[@Ticketman99]

@@fartsnstuf Not from what I've seen.

[@wecomingforyoucolbylopez9393]

Mjf hets cheered tho

[@closethockeyfan5284]

Exactly. This is the best definition I've seen in the comments. It describes why the Cena character--a face--has gotten go-away heat at different levels for almost 15 years. Brian doesn't seem to grasp what Cena represents to fans who are interested in compelling characters inside the ring and on the microphone. Cena was initially a compelling character with the Vanilla Ice gimmick. He cut solid promos and could hold his own in the ring. As soon as he beat JBL at Mania and became The Guy™, they watered down his moveset (ostensibly to protect the star product as much as possible); gradually dumbed down his promos; and pretty soon stripped away his gimmick, to the point he was Just a Nice Guy™ who also happened to be indestructible--shattering any reasonable suspension of disbelief. Brian alluded to the concept of overbooking/overexposure and other aspects of creative, which Cena was absolutely the prime example of in the late 2000s. For his street fight against The Great Khali, I expected a bowling shoe match that would play to their strengths as brawlers. But after Khali beat him up around the whole arena, Cena gave him one little fireman's carry for an immediate win. As my dad said, "Next week he'll fight a one-on-three handicap match against a lion, a tiger, and a bear, and still win easily." It was unenjoyable and therefore unwatchable to many fans. My whole friend group gave up on WWE because of Cena. I started to get a little interested again when Cena was out with an injury, but then they had him win the Royal Rumble in his return as No. 30 entrant. It shattered my suspension of disbelief and tolerance for getting Cena shoved down my throat for the last time. I vowed that day to stop watching WWE and haven't regretted it. New eras, same old...

[@Curathol]

Every time, MJF speaks, I feel like it's building to this great moment, when Adam Page finally punches the grin out of his face. Every time, Baron Corbin speaks, I feel like Vince is just amusing himself on the expense of my patience. The key difference is my faith in a satisfying conclusion, more than anything else ...

[@Ticketman99]

Everytime MJF speaks, I'm reminded of Colby Covington, a guy who's pretty similar to MJF(actually the other way around). Everytime Baron Corbin speaks, I sleep...unless he says one or two funny things.

[@goldberg9730]

Mjf is just a discount Miz.

[@saultheLC]

@@goldberg9730 Except he's bigger, is better on the mic (at least compared to what the Miz is allowed to do), and puts on better matches

[@robroux6074]

Corbin is good. People forget that the fanboys(probably Vince bots) were pushing for him to get a Push when he had long hair, when he finaly did, they turned on him for wearing that suit all the time. Corbin is good and could be a good heel but not Main Even Heel he doesn't have the Charisma , hes just bland,basic.

[@monotonedmika17]

Baron Corbin's definitely has a "get the frick off of TV" heat. i like MJF's heel heat, tho. reminds me of early Miz during his main event runs. you want to punch his face but you want to see him on tv.

[@Supervillain725]

MJF is a douche. I love his promos and heelwork, they crack me up every time I listen to him.

[@monsterjambrony]

Who’s MJF? Micheal J. Fox?

[@wecomingforyoucolbylopez9393]

Mjf gets cheered tho

[@monotonedmika17]

@@wecomingforyoucolbylopez9393 well, no. he actually gets the loudest boos. as i said, he gets the Miz main event heat. you sometimes can't hear his promos because of how loud the boos are. but his promos are fire.

[@MizuFujimori]

Reddit is loving Baron lately and Im just in awe at the fickleness. He needs to get the fuck off the screen. Make way for actual talent.

[@King_Goat_JJ]

Go away heat: in WWE is caused by WWE cause 99% of the wrestlers have no control. In other promotions where there is freedom it's on the wrestler & promotion. The best heels right now in wrestling is AJ Styles; Daniel Bryan; Chris Jericho & MJF.

[@ElusiveClarity]

As is notable from your above examples, it does kinda help if your top heel is actually a talented wrestler also.

[@shoto7948]

Replace aj with Jay White

[@snakeayez]

Corbin's heat is an amalgamation of both He plays the heel character perfectly drawing heat in all the right ways (see pre-Constable days) He has go-away heat and this comes from this character portrayal but more for the situations that WWE keeps putting him in Fans, at least me, are just tired of seeing him inserted over and over and over into storylines ahead of more deserving, even squashed, wrestlers. He should not have more main events than Balor for example and also begs the question of how many talents have been set to the background in lieu of a confusing Corbin push. Ravishing Rick Rude, heel Jericho, Jake the Snake and definitely the Iron Sheik were perfect heel heat creators.

[@the1flym459]

If you want someone to go away, don't boo them or even complain about them online, simply stay completely silent. No reaction is worse than any reaction you can give them

[@rogueprince1341]

Chris Jericho is the master of getting heat as a heel.

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

Jericho is a genius. Remember when he came out and just stood in the ring, refusing to say anything?

[@Ticketman99]

@@ArcaneAzmadi He learned that one from JBL.

[@dannycardona211]

Now hes just an indy bitch

[@theartattackrestorationpro1174]

It’s basically a matter of do I want to watch them. I will gladly watch a Minoru Suzuki match, and be happy that he gets beat by Okada, Tanahashi, whoever. But, who is going out of their way to willingly watch a Baron Corbin match?

[@HoganIce]

sheepishly raises hand ✋🏻 haha

[@suggsverse]

I am

[@MrBlazemaster525]

I do And I watch both MiSu and Corbin, but for different things. Also, you're in the wrong answering the question

[@RyanAcidhedzMurphy]

@Cactus 1052 NJPW is pro-wrestling, which means you are the demographic since they have English commentary for all major events now. Minoru Suzuki is one of the founders of Pancrase with a 30-20 MMA record with 22 wins by submission, trained by Karl Gotch in catch as catch can wrestling and pro-wrestling. He is NOT some random Japanese guy.

[@WakamonoInazuma]

Cactus 1052 What demographic is that?

[@unfailingfeline5215]

Tbh I liked Baron more when he had long hair

[@speedy932key4]

I can agree with that, Baron was much better when had hair and didn't wrestle in suits

[@RacingVagabond]

I agree, but MPB is a bitch so his best option was to just shave it all.

[@aaronhurst4379]

Yeah I kinda enjoyed his first Smackdown run when he was near the WWE title scene

[@Junketsuadidas]

Sadly there’s nothing he coulda done about that 😂

[@nick56677]

What hair? Baron was turning into Hogan hairwise.

[@BluThundr]

Charlotte has started to get go away heat with me, purely because if she's not in the title scene, the title doesn't matter and that annoys me. Bayley and Ember got shafted on Summerslam with terrible booking and Trish and Charlotte got all the attention, and now Ember got squashed clean by Charlotte, and now we're getting the same old Charlotte vs Bayley we've gotten 3 years ago. I am most likely getting worked slightly, but just seeing the obvious "hey, im charlotte flair of course im gonna get a push" just annoys me.

[@vandercudo]

Don't think it's a work though. They were genuinely surprised that Lynch was getting cheered over Charlotte.

[@JamesKlemm87]

I know what you're saying, but Charlotte is probably the best in ring female performer, so they kind of need her in the title scene. That said, Ember Moon is really good too so I'm baffled why her last feud was over...Nintendo or something, and her recent push was face vs face.

[@KarnRulez]

@@JamesKlemm87 Charlotte is far from the best in ring performer. She can do a moonsault and Figure 8. Not impressive. Asuka, Kairi, Ember, Ruby, Logan, all way better than Ric Flair with boobs

[@JamesKlemm87]

@@KarnRulez Sounds to me like you just don't like Charlotte (real classy with the sexism btw) since some of those names are certainly not better much less "way better". I do agree that they are good wrestlers that deserve more screen time. Asuka and Kari need to move to singles too.

[@BigBWolf90]

about heat and it's effectiveness I quote Bully (Bubba, Brother) Ray Dudley "if I worked that crowd up so much that they're waiting to stab me outside my car at 3 in the morning then I've done my job"

[@caeert2962]

*heels in 2019* Gets cheered: He's such a great heel! I appreciate his work ethics Gets booed: Urgh, get that wrestler off of TV! They CLEARLY can't work...

[@ImagineABear]

This is why I have said for years that Kevin Owens was a terrible heel.

[@nybxcrotona]

@@ImagineABear A heel that got cheered?

[@ImagineABear]

@@nybxcrotona A heel that constantly got cheered, for doing cool/funny things.

[@Hakokoro]

Bryan is constantly booed and nobody sayd he cant work

[@onthaticeburgess109]

Cae Ert stfu

[@bt4yodiggity]

As much as I love your top 8’s and classic payperview reviews. I think these types of “discussion” videos are my favorite from you Brian. I love how you go into detail with examples and don’t try to lean to one side of the argument too much. EDIT: thank you so much for the heart Z-man. Love your channel

[@johnnysizemore5797]

Notes from a Midcard J.O.B.Squader; What made heels like Cornette,Heenan and Heyman(at least during his Dangerously years) have great "Heel Heat" was the fact that they were willing to let themselves get beat-up/mocked to put over whoever was selected as "The Face" during the storyline. Look at the now infamous Cornette-vs.Paul E.Dangerously Heel Feud from back in the early 80's(i think,but i'm not certain of the year): While nobody liked either Manager at the time(especially Cornette in the Mid-deep South ),fans chose one of the most hated managers @ the time over the Yuppie-with-a Cell phone to cheer for. Imho,it's not really the type of "Heat" the Heel get's,it's more about how you present said Heel that makes a difference.Wrestling Heels are just going to be treated differently than Manager Heels,wether WWE likes it or not.... May you never end up Counting the Lights, "The Athlete" Brad Trevelyan

[@mattclark8746]

MJF is the best heel today. He shines in every segment, every match, and every promo.

[@arnavthegreat4483]

He does not have go away heat He has love to hate heat

[@dannyprado8214]

Daniel Bryan is a great heel and so is Samoa Joe

[@rokaanalzeer]

Don’t forget ciampa.

[@djpegao]

But Bryan at least can back it up in the ring while Joe (except for the KOTR qualifiers) lost every match and feud he's been in.

[@dannyprado8214]

@@rokaanalzeer oh man! How did i forget that. Such a great heel

[@dannyprado8214]

@@djpegao bro tell me about it. Such a great heel but hes like Wyatt from a few yrs back. He just cant win

[@Cableguy15]

@@djpegao Agreed. Joe is wasted in wwe. A lot like Bray Wyatt before the Fiend came along. Filled with great ideas and should be dominating in the ring, but loses all the time.

[@honestreviewer7788]

easiest way to describe it. Good heat is when you pay money cause you wanna see the heel get his ass kicked. "Dudleys in ECW, MJF in AEW, Roddey Piper" go home heat is when you just flat out don't wanna see them perform, you don't wanna pay to see them at all "think the nightmare collective or dark order in AEW, the mcmahon family after 2000" "it's ALL about drawing money" - Roddy Piper

[@bulletchains8205]

Aquaman or some entity that is allegedly named Roman, idk, he's the dying samoan Hollywood Guy who's currently champion in WWE, he's an example of someone people WON'T pay money to see, because they hate him so much. whereas people like at the very least Cena or even Cody might get boo'ed, but still sell tickets and move merch to a varied enough audience to illicit their onscreen exposure, and while not denying the validation of them having "heat" is still clear to see why they are where they are. the Superman Punch guy got heat for so long cause nobody knew what the fuck the company was doing

[@padreblack]

I don't hate Corbin, but I believe he has the wrong type of heat. He's a decent mid card heel, but he's not as charismatic as MJF. The fans don't buy him as a real threat in the main event. I also think some fans aren't a fan of who they think Corbin is in real life.

[@wecomingforyoucolbylopez9393]

Mjf gets cheered tho

[@Unotuchable]

Also RAW was basically unwatchable with Corbin all over the show. He was fine enough in the role until they had him in something like 5 or 6 segments across an entire show with them being long enough that it's noticeable how overused he is.

[@glennb6020]

I could have sworn X-Pac heat was him around NWO and after because he got no reaction and was the bathroom match every time

[@godfather71190]

Yeah he was really hated in WCW

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

X-Pac heat is definitely go away heat not indifference.

[@godfather71190]

@My name may be Keith That theme song was fucking terrible.

[@manu52dain13]

@@godfather71190 but why? He was good

[@springer90]

Jinder Mahal had go away heat.

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

#FACTS

[@therealmaskedheel]

No, Jinder Mahal gets apathy (aka Conway Pop).

[@Xehanort10]

That's because he was a jobber who was only giving a title run to try and sell tickets on an Indian tour which failed. Jinder's also Canadian too so I don't know what they were thinking.

[@Ashannon888]

@@Xehanort10 Umm.. what the does Jinder being Canadian have to do with anything? Some of the best wrestlers of all time are Canadian.... Unless you mean they didn't get an actual Indian like Khali?

[@thevoid99]

@@Ashannon888 what xehanort10 meant was that since the punjabi jobber was of indian descent, they tried to use him as a way to get money for the indian market only to fail immensely as those 2 big shows in india ended up being one and it never worked. plus, he wasn't a true indian wrestler which didn't appeal to indian wrestling fans unless they're idiots.

[@souperpouperscouper]

You can't have natural heel heat anymore because people know its all a work so when people cheer a heel today its because they like their charisma and in ring work and when they boo one its because they see the heel as not worthy of being on their tv screens for whatever reason. That's how I see it

[@BlackBearNE]

bider_peearu I agree totally. Great point. It’s a tricky issue, but I feel like the problem is there aren’t enough quality babyfaces to balance out the good heels. If what you said is true (which I think it is too), and fans are just going to cheer for the good heels because they appreciate their work, you need a face they appreciate just as much, if not more.

[@cocobarbarian1510]

@@BlackBearNE yeah I agree its not just a heel problem its a face problem. Most faces have nothing pulling you in, to cheer for them. Faces are just the guys that fight the bad guy. there's nothing compelling about them

[@BrettStormXWP]

I think Go-Away Heat shouldn't be blamed on the performer. Think back to the start of the Second brand split, people were interested to see what Baron Corbin (and others such as Carmella, Alexa Bliss & American Alpha, all of whom has been heel or at least teased a heel turn in the case of Jason Jordan at least once on the Main Roster) was going to do. But a few years later and a lot of people say Baron has Go-Away Heat which I think is unjustified because they didn't react this way when he won MITB, a match which basically puts a stamp of approval on a performer (I know it didn't pan out for him but I'm talking about him winning the match), they booed him, sure, but that was definitely Heel Heat as I didn't see or hear of many people demanding Corbin be put off TV. They only started reacting this way when WWE booked him in a position where he had to deal with that reaction by saying it's Baron's fault ratings are down. Another thing that needs to be thought of is how many people in the current era of Wrestling are actually good at getting heel heat and keeping it? Samoa Joe? No, have you listened to his entrance with basically the whole arena chanting "JOE! JOE! JOE!". Sami Zayn? Shinsuke Nakamura? People still sing to both of their theme songs (at least try despite Nakamura's theme was changed) and chant for both men. AJ Styles? People respect the guy so much (definitely deserved) that they chant and cheer for AJ Styles. Baron Corbin is a heel who gets heat and because people want him off TV, he keeps that heat. So is Go-Away Heat actually the best kind of heat a wrestler can have today? I'd say probably. Because as wrestling fans, we'll still watch wrestling even if we want someone off TV. Even if we say we want Baron off TV we'll still tune in every week, see Baron nearly every week and boo Baron every time he appears. So as few wrestlers can keep genuine Heal Heat, Go-Away Heat might be a better option. As if you're a really good heel, people probably won't want to see you anyway.

[@robertmartin8536]

I can simplify this very easily. Think of the year 2000. HHH had Heel Heat. Stephanie had Go Away Heat.

[@fillgollinsdergroarticheme8442]

this is a very complicated topic. I would simply explain it as follows: - Go Away Heat: makes people switch the channel or take a piss or leave the arena or whatever - Heel Heat: does not cause the above mentioned things

[@joseangelriverac7490]

Corbin over exposure what's not working and the fact that he still the same character even after he stop being manager of the brand he didn't move pass it.

[@banebasara53]

A lot of reviewers on youtube just lose their sting and become unfunny or uninteresting like the nostalgia critic. But Brian is just getting better and funnier

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Well, Nostalgia Critic can still be funny but every video is full of "comedy sketches" random people and barely any review.

[@banebasara53]

@@RandalfElVikingo I disagree

[@RandalfElVikingo]

@@banebasara53 In the "funny" part? Lol

[@banebasara53]

@@RandalfElVikingo lol I'm sorry. But I disagree with the fact that you say critic can still be funny. I don't see yelling and using "new" ways of cussing as funny.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

@@banebasara53 Don't be, maybe I should've writed "he has his moments" I liked his interview with James Rolfe for example. But his channel has sucked when he started to put a lot of random stuff on his reviews, he devolved unlike AVGN and Angry Joe. Wrestling with Wregret is a more refined version of the Nostalgia Critic formula, and even Brian has evolved more.

[@TheDarkLordOfBass]

I thought we’re calling it Eva Marie heat from now on???

[@cocobarbarian1510]

not gonna lie the gimmick she had before leaving the wwe where she would be announced for a match, and the announcer would come up with any reason why she couldn't make it was hilarious

[@emperorjoker9240]

Alexander Larkin although a terrible performer, she was (and still is) hot, so it balanced out. PEMDAS my guy lol.

[@LexysHereAfter]

Baron Corbin *could* have the proper heat, he has the right smugness and talent. Has a good look, his finisher(s) look great. Corbin can be an effective heel when he's allowed to but as you call out WWE pinning the booking issues on him as a talent really hurt that. He was overexposed too sure, but that could've worked too if they'd done something to run with it instead of trying to make him a scapegoat for crap he's not actually responsible for. I really wanted (still do to an extent) Corbin to be treated like a legitimate top heel instead of what felt like a holdover until Brock was around again. Sidenote: I loved his early NXT days with the audience counting up for how quickly he'd destroy his opponent. That was awesome. X-Pac getting the go away heat when he did feels undeserved in restrospect, the guy was a helluva talent for most of his career and put on some damn good matches. He'd probably be one of the guys who would excel in today's environment more than he did in the past and maybe thanks to less party hard influences in the back now he'd have come out better in the end too. MJF is solid freaking gold. The dude is only 23 and he's as good on the mic as veterans who have been in the business for longer than he's been alive. He, like Velveteen Dream, just has "IT" that factor you can't really quantify or describe all that well. You don't always know the ones who don't got it but when you see the ones who do it stands out.

[@Supervillain725]

I can't wait for MJF to hit Cody w/a chair.

[@sedinmagic1591]

He's not a top heel though, he's mid-card and that's all he'll ever be and should be

[@akminds52]

Overexposure is 100% the problem. I don't have an issue with Baron Corbin in his promos or in his ring work, sure his matches aren't exactly 5 star classics but he has a few really well executed moves. His promo work is golden, he knows how to wind people up and it's entertaining but having him in 20 minute matches on a weekly basis, sometimes twice a week where it's the same cheap heel heat and beatdowns gets tiring and it makes me not want to watch him at all which is a shame because I do have some nice words to say about him. If the booking was better and he was used more sparingly in shorter matches I'd be more than happy watching big baldy Bazza on a weekly basis and even in higher card angles.

[@jamessendy8131]

I think Brian touched on this...Corbin's go away heat is entirely on the company over using him, then blaming him (in storyline) for the bad creative...Corbin as a heel that is used in a more sparingly manner is fantastic, his promo work is great, his facial expressions are top notch, his move set is crisp and looks devastating, he doesn't let the fact fans hate him bother him (in fact i think he loves it, and you can see it on his face when he is about to do something that they crowd is going to absolutely boo, he is giddy with anticipation), i was saying this on social media a couple of years ago he will be one of their top heels (though they then went and did the end of 2018/start of 2019 with him, so he may have a longer road as the fans will still think he has go away heat at the moment) but i am almost willing to bet they will make him King of the Ring this year, purely for the reaction and knowing he can handle the blowback. If Drew or Andrade (the 2 i think "should" win) win the fans may actually cheer...which isn't good for 2 of the other big Heels in the company....

[@stefanradebach2889]

The funny thing about Corbin is that he was legitimately hated during his constable run in 2018 but for some reason in mid and late 2019 the dislike started to not only die down but even weirder they started to defend Corbin because he has "heat" which basically not only ignores all of the Go-Away Heat he had in 2018 and early 2019 but also the entire history of wrestlers that were legit hated like X-Pac, Triple H, Eva Marie, Jinder Mahal and everyone's favorite Roman Reigns. And you wanna know why: AEW. Since it's inception and existence as an alternative to WWE it has created this strange and unusual reaction where fans of WWE that criticized bad decisions now suddenly takes a defensively hostile stance against AEW by accusing anyone that criticizes WWE as an AEW defender no matter how right they are and of course started to ironically defend awful decisions they once hated like Corbin's push, particularly his King run that was the absolute low point of his character just to stick it to AEW. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[@joshuamessenger]

5:35 "it was so satisfying to see Corbin get beat down by everyone he had wronged" Was it...? Really...? Like when he won the feud against Angle at Wrestlemania? Hard disagree.

[@jesterr7133]

I couldn't have cared less, because I fell asleep before it happened.

[@BBoy4040]

Yeah I never cared for Corbin getting beat down, especially when he was still in the main event scene and still "phantom booking" matches after he lost the GM position.

[@Tsunderedad]

I like how Baron Corbin being the focus was the trigger warning

[@scottaznavourian5791]

Been giving triple hhh go away heat since the days he was a rich snob almost a quarter of a. Century ago. Still hasnt worked.

[@alexmohr1072]

Too bad the majority of the WWF/E fanbase wasn't

[@rebal180]

The reason for the hate when Corbin was named Kurt Angles last opponent is because he was Kurt Angles true very last opponent. Angle isn't doing tours in the indies. He isn't returning to TNA. He isn't even debuting in AEW. He's never going to have another match because he simply can't do it anymore and he doesn't want the fans to see him to struggle to be the wrestler they remember him as. The fans were robbed of an epic final match between arguably the greatest in ring worker ever and a wrester that could actually match him in the ring.

[@WarEagle1023]

It all comes down to booking. MJF is able to hone his craft ON HIS OWN. Corbin is expected to follow the script. He has no chance to add his own flair to it

[@supermetroid009]

said it before ill say it again, The Z man is my favorite youtuber..because he doesn't act like a typical loud,obnoxious , trying to make the videos all about himself youtuber, hes passionate about the subject of wrestling and has great comedic timing, he adds to what hes talking about instead of trying to make it all about him,also he knows when to be over the top and when to be subtle.good job man long time fan.

[@danmount9462]

I actually like Corbin. Not everyone is going to be the Adam Cole cool heel. Sometimes you need to be the unrepentant jerk that does anything to win. Plus I love his move set and his stuff looks like it hurts.

[@aztn19]

Dan Mount you just listed everything that I like about Baron Corbin! Even his theme music fits him perfectly as a heel you love to hate.

[@josejeovaze4802]

It is like I commented, Corbin has a new kind of heat since he actually wants that kind of heat. It is nothing like what is happening with Shane, Shane got the X-Pac heat by accident, Corbin on the other hand is so good as a heel, he would end-up being cheered so WWE made it on purpose that his character got the X-Pac Heat. It is a fabricated X-Pac heat.

[@KarnRulez]

Corbin sucks at wrestling and talking

[@stbsole]

I think the reason why Corbin is really disliked is because of how much a spotlight he got. Usually great heels build their way into that spotlight with a twisted justification or circumstances that push them into that spot. Kevin Owens was not pushed down our throats as a heel, but he made the most of his heel spots that created this organic heat. I feel the biggest issue of characters in the modern WWE is creative does not allow the wrestler to develop a connection with the crowd. A good example of organic character development was how the rock was booed and heckled as a baby face then embraced the how the crowd wanted to hate him and just ran with a justified arrogance.

[@canadianjoe-jr2dk]

Heel Heat: Fans want you to get your comeuppance like Go-Away Heat: Fans want you to get off their screen like

[@eduardoolifant6292]

I know I’m in the severe minority but I really like Corbin. He’s a victim of modern wrestling where fans want a “cool heel” that they actually like which defeats the purpose of a heel. Corbin was getting a monster push that might have been a bit much but that’s cos he’s maybe the only heel who gets the right response

[@BlackBearNE]

Eduardo Olifant Great point. Too many guys trying to be cool heels, so they’ve pretty much trained the audience to want funny, charismatic, entertaining, badass heels. Let the babyfaces be badass, cool, funny etc. Heels should not be someone you want to hang out with or emulate.

[@thomasjenkins7506]

exactly. corbin is a heel's heel, just like JBL before him. he was way over-exposed during his authority run and that's what killed him. he wasn't quite ready then. i'd rather watch corbin out there heeling it up than smirky mcgee trying to act cool or funny.

[@SaintDamain]

Go away heat is produced when the heel gives no satisfying conclusions. This happens when the heel is not assigned to a storyline, or rivalry, and is instead a heel for being a heel's sake. You can only justify giving a heel an absurd amount of screen time if they're champion. Imagine if Baron Corbin were Universal Champ. That would've changed the response greatly.

[@IamI3rian]

A good example of "go away heat" would be "R" Felix Finch.

[@edgarberlanga6885]

6:23 you have no idea how long that thought has been going in my head. I'm really glad you made this video

[@SidMassiveXM]

To me Corbin got legit heel heat. Go-away heat is on WWE itself for using cancer and dead wrestlers as a crutch in their storylines.

[@Rodderz1992]

For me, a good heel is the same as a good babyface; they have to make a connection with me. Some of my favourite heels (Heenan, Piper, The Miz, The Rock, Samoa Joe, Raven, just to name a few) have all connected with me in some way, whether it be on the mic, in the ring or the actions they do around the storyline. In a way, I have to like a heel for me to want to see them get their comeuppance. To that end, I would add Corbin in with that, but they pushed it too far; think Reigns as a face.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

I started using Roman heat instead of X-pac heat years ago.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

No shit. Roman sucks balls.

[@trevormccarthy7405]

@@mychaeljones7526 lmao Everyone hates Roman except 12 year-old marks like you.

[@Evilkingus]

What a great video! I like how you are pointing out the subtle nuances in wrestling terminology.

[@mattiecastillo2683]

I actually think we can easily discount the idea that Baron Corbin is one of the best heels in the business by asking one simple question, "Who has come out of a Baron Corbin feud more over than they went into it?" A good heel, especially an upper midcard heel like Corbin should leave people primed for bigger things, but almost every feud with Corbin has damaged the momentum of the guy he's facing.

[@ktownshutdown21]

Yep, look no further than Seth Rollins. His match with AJ was well received, but then his reign was grinded to a screeching halt with his 84 month feud with Corbin, getting so bad that fans started to turn on HIM too. Corbin is at BEST a LOWWWW mid carder, quite frankly on the level of The Ascension or Mojo Rawley. Use him to kickstart better newbies and that's it.

[@thomasjenkins7506]

@@ktownshutdown21 corbin is too good to be a mojo rawley. he's more of a hardcore holly. you beat him to get into the upper midcard, like the IC title chase. in the attitude era, he would've been a great european champion. he should be in 1 backstage segment a week with squash matches on heat and a decent length match on either raw or smackdown..

[@ktownshutdown21]

@@thomasjenkins7506 Ok fine, fair enough. The MOST I'm willing to go is a Discount Test, since they're both tall, I guess. But that's it 😤

[@thomasjenkins7506]

@@ktownshutdown21 that's completely fair. i'd actually rate test above holly, even if he had less charisma.

[@SDG.12]

MJF = Heel Heat Corbin = Go Away Heat Bischoff = Heel Heat Authority Stephanie/Best In the World Shane = Go Away Heat

[@jakefoster5611]

MJF is definitely the best heel in wrestling right now. Especially because he doesn't break kayfabe.

[@SpeedPants]

i remember 2012 Micheal cole being the prime example of "go-away heat".

[@Smith559]

I’ve been waiting for this sort of video

[@miongskie]

very informative and one of the things I haven't seen and heard being talked about in YT. Thanks, Brian!

[@originallmoney9099]

You should have a Top 8 "Go-Away Heels", not counting X-Pac.

[@roodboy606]

One thing I thought about while sleeping on this topic. You can have both go-away heat and heel heat with different fans at the same time. It’s not always an argument. (Which Brian touched on in the outro) And I think the best heat was pre kayfabe, 80’s heat. Seeing those crowds eviscerating the heels. And you feel those same emotions. MJF studies those wrestlers which is why he channels it so well.

[@roybledsoe24]

One of the greatest heels for me was Mr. Perfect!

[@KarnRulez]

Difference is he could wrestle and was a good man. Corbin is a garbage human

[@ChristopherJames1993]

@@KarnRulez how do you know that being as he's in character all the time fuckwad. Corbin is just a good heel end of story.

[@prodbyANT]

Shane McMahon is the perfect example of Go Away Heat. People don't boo him because he's the heel and that's what you're supposed to do to heels, people boo him because they're fuckin' sick of looking at him.

[@undercoverb9719]

Basically the easiest way someone can have heel heat is to be the on screen authority and book to win everytime with anyone.

[@Ticketman99]

Better way: be a former UFC champion and be booked to defeat everybody. Hey, these "wrestlers" can't beat that person in real life😅

[@SSBSfanboy]

The term "Go-away heat" sounds too vanilla. "Fuck-off heat" sounds better in my opinion

[@vanitasthomas4829]

What was Vickie's heat? Because I still think she falls somewhere in the middle.

[@ChrisWidner]

Vicki was a GREAT heel. My wife would leave the room when she heard her voice and couldn't stand her. When I told her that Vicki retired her response was "thank God". I consider that great heat. I should clarify that my wife isn't a wrestling fan so heat that quick is why I consider it great heel work.

[@vanitasthomas4829]

@@ChrisWidner That's crazy man lol. Considering your wife wasn't a wrestling fan too just shows how good she was at her job.

[@unknownbyself]

Vickie was an awesome heel, I've never hated an on-screen authority figure more, not even the Authority. Just hearing that shrill "EXCUSE ME" sends a chill down my spine.

[@chrispynrose6971]

In my opinion, the reason for baron Corbin's turn happened very shortly after his wardrobe and hair change. To me he was and felt like a legitimate bad ass, the way he acted then he became a sellout in a way and it almost felt like he was trying too hard to be this new persona. Bring back the lone wolf baron Corbin and bury king ceo Corbin. That's what should happen

[@MikeJr9284]

I’m surprised Brian put Baron Corbin instead of Shane McMahon for the go away heat part. Both of them have go away heat, but Shane’s been on TV more times than Baron nowadays.

[@diskeyes]

Baron has been the more consistently hated heel in the passed years though

[@nybxcrotona]

Shane has flipped between face and heel. Although I do think he's overstayed his welcome for a while.

[@thomasjenkins7506]

which kind of sucks because corbin is a fantastic heel and great worker. corbin had all the tools, but got ran into the ground with his authority angle.

[@bestthingsinceslicedrice]

I wonder if the top heels sometimes go to a quiet room then cry in a corner when sometimes peoples hatred get to them because deep down they are a good person.

[@PursseysCall]

This is a great video! Amazing information and level of detail!

[@ricosuave6898]

This was a very well conceived and thoughtful video; you should do more stuff on the general craft of storytelling in the ring. You have a great understanding and there isn't much out there about it.

[@glennb6020]

And I honestly think Corbin’s lack of indie background causes his dislike. If you ever see him in interviews his is really fun, but clearly cares about doing well in wrestling. He also has had the lack of indie background slammed against him throughout his career.

[@eliitethundergaming8744]

That's not true because there are Indy guys people don't like and homegrown guys that people like

[@glennb6020]

EliiteThunderGaming cheers for that vague and pointless response.

[@Ticketman99]

@@eliitethundergaming8744 Give a list.

[@TheFireEmblemManiac]

In my opinion there has been no better heel in the last three years than Tomasso Ciampa. His character after he turned heel and even the story of why he ended up turning heel was perfect in every way, and especially in the way that he was able to manipulate and exploit Johnny Gargano to get what he wanted. I especially loved how during their second match at Takeover: Chicago II how they did something of a double turn where Johnny just snapped and started viciously attacking Ciampa; and from that point on, Johnny wasn't the tried and true baby-face that he had been up to that point and eventually Ciampa ended up turning him heel as well. And even though he was a heel, I honestly always rooted for Ciampa because I thought his story about the fans turning their backs on him and only ever talking about Johnny was justified; he was just as much a part of DIY as Johnny was, and he was every bit as good as Johnny but no one ever appreciated him for everything he did, and he proved just how good he was with the heel turn and the amazing matches that he had all year.

[@jlr8423]

MJF is no where near a good heel as Ciampa where his theme was literal crowd boos

[@amarirasheed6]

Ciampa is going to be cheered when he returns so he isn't really going to be a heel. MJF still has heel heat.

[@uktthe_king_fish5769]

Well, I do want to see him get his, so let’s not doubt mjf as a good heel

[@blankko84]

How is Ciampa a good heel when his only rivalry has been against Gargano, the wrestling equivalent of a newborn puppy, ANYONE would get heat going against babyface Gargano, until Ciampa gets another rivalry against someone else he can't really be put as a great heel

[@Bananahammock681]

@@amarirasheed6 Sure, when he returns he'll be the biggest babyface in NXT history, possibly. But until then his music for a while wasn't just the above mentioned boos, it was raw hatred from a crowd. When was the last time a WWE audience told somebody to literally go F themselves AND cheer their opponents name just to get under the guys skin? Ciampa was special, hell I'm still mad at him for what he did to Johnny and I love the fact I am.

[@Bananahammock681]

@@blankko84 Adam Cole didn't, bay bay. People still love him and he took the belt from Johnny Wrestling.

[@metalmonster34]

MJF's interview with Chris Van Vlugh is the best. Watched it 7 times. Best heel.

[@Omnifas]

How to show you want someone to go away: BE QUIET

[@EnvyDSin]

AKA be present at a wrestling live show in Lafayette, lol

[@Ticketman99]

@@EnvyDSin Watch Lafayette *explode* with the biggest pop you'll ever hear because Lafayette's own, interim UFC lightweight champion Dustin Poirier shows up🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RyoUrawa777]

I think X-Pac heat should be renamed Michael Cole heat cause not only does that guy suck as an announcer but his feud with Lawler was so awful that the fans myself included always changed the channel when he was on screen for even a second

[@OrthwormJEB]

Admit it. The only reason this video was made because Brian wanted to talk about MJF. I mean who doesn't?

[@SNOWQueen87-v1g]

I don't

[@730F-Sport]

MJF is awesome

[@730F-Sport]

@@ajbahus You Sound ignorant.. There's nothing original about pro Wrestling today because everything has been done before.. For example the Kevin Owens & Shane McMahon storyline is a rehash of the Austin Vs. McMahon Storyline from 1998

[@ajbahus]

Mike Litoris Which is why it’s in the state that it’s in...?

[@SnipingIsFun]

@@ajbahus And the reason AEW is refreshing

[@DrDirtyLeggz]

To quote Bruce Prichard; "JBL was a heat-seeking missile"

[@falagarius]

MJF has charisma, Corbin doesn't

[@SNOWQueen87-v1g]

Corbin has charisma

[@AverageAsianMe]

@@SNOWQueen87-v1g because he sucks charisma from everyone around him doesn't mean he has charisma

[@JoesWatching]

AverageAsianMe he has charisma though

[@SNOWQueen87-v1g]

@@AverageAsianMe YAWN

[@AverageAsianMe]

@@SNOWQueen87-v1g that happens everytime Baron Corbin is on TV...except when he was feuding with Joe in NXT

[@nebulousecho]

SO happy you used Limitless Wrestling footage for MJF!

[@maybenextyearmb9660]

I like Baron Corbin

[@drstevens16]

The biggest reason Mjf can get real heat is because he isnt held back by his show being PG. His amazing promo he cut on the fans at Fyter Fest would never happen in Wwe.