Don't Do This Is If You See This Sign!

[@carlman2842]

When an establishment post such a sign, it should be construed as taking over the responsibility to provide protection for its customers. In the event of a mass shooting, the customers who were deprived of the right to protect themselves should be able to sue the proprietor of the establishment.

[@WarriorSoul357]

I mean... even if the signs are put up by the snowflake, hate all guns, crowd. If they send a councilor out to talk to the shooter, then hey, it's a distraction for people to run! 😆😂

[@voodoopat5518]

Agreed. I think it’s ridiculous how most malls are “gun free”, but there are gun (gang) related incidents frequently.

[@LeinaVance]

Or maybe don't go into the place in the first place. 😊

[@AdrenalineTheory]

That makes literally no sense. Private property is private property. You wouldnt allow anyone else to tell you what you have to do on yours so stop acting like anyone has to listen to what you want.

[@chltmdwp]

@@AdrenalineTheory read again. The person said "should" which means wishful thinking.

[@robertyoung9589]

The Costco where I shop posted a no firearm sign. I then gave Costco a one star rating based on this policy and mentioned that Costco is now responsible for providing armed protection for their customers. The no firearm sign was removed the next day.

[@kylehill4437]

Good idea...im gonna start doing that.

[@Hegshot87]

Nice!

[@alangil3493]

My wife and I went to Nashville for a few days to see the C&W Mecca. Every and I mean every store on Broadway and the Mall near the Grand Ole Opry had those "Hunting Preserve for Psychotic murderers" signs posted. Won't go back to that city where mass murders are going to happen

[@chrism9017]

@@alangil3493 I do not think those signs mean what you think they mean.

[@antoniomontana9430]

A local Sprouts Farmers Market also posted such a sign at the entrance to their establishment. In Florida, these signs don't mean squat and unless you're printing and making it obvious that you're conceal carrying, they can't do anything about it. If they do make out that you're carrying in their establishment, the most that they can do is ask you to leave or trespass you. I personally refuse to patronize that snowflake pandering liberal run establishment.

[@jameslusk7236]

As a business owner in South Carolina I respect the fact that if you have went thru the process to get a permit to carry concealed as I have. I just simply don’t do business with companies that restrict my 2A rights. Gun free zones only assist crime and hurt law abiding citizens.

[@orangejuice4332]

My thoughts exactly. There is a restaurant chain that has lost my business and most of my family for years now.

[@fattigla]

I don't support private businesses that restrict my rights. I don't agree with it, however I do respect someone else's right to do what they wish with their private property.

[@weaponeer8582]

I don’t understand why you are okay as long as a permit is involved. A permit is just taxing you to exercise a right that you already have. It’s funny that you’re okay with carrying because the government says you’re okay to to do so for a fee.

[@BruceCross]

@@weaponeer8582 Please don't give him too hard a time. He's pro-2A, but South Carolina is not yet a constitutional carry state. He might not mind if law-abiding people without a permit did conceal carry in his business, but he can't legally say it. Of course, that's assuming they know the basics of gun safety, shooting, and self-defense law.

[@weaponeer8582]

@@BruceCross stop white knighting. He’s not pro-2A. He 2A with caveats of government superseding your rights. He’s cool with government taxing your rights.

[@rangersmith4652]

In my state, “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED” signs that meet specific requirements are enforceable as a Class B misdemeanor carrying a fine of $500. What I do when I see such a sign, very simply, is open the door, get the attention of an employee, and ask to see the owner or manager. If that person elects to respond, I tell him or her, quite calmly, that I am aware of his or her authority under state law to prohibit my gun, but that while I was planning to spend a lot of money in this establishment, I have elected to go to a 2A-friendly competitor instead.

[@Golddess]

Another alternative, for anyone who lacks the confidence to positively assert a support of 2A, might be to tell the manager that you don’t feel safe shopping in an establishment where only criminals are carrying.

[@rangersmith4652]

@@Golddess Agreed. The key is to rationally communicate why you're not patronizing such an establishment.

[@rangersmith4652]

@@21biscuits82 The Volunteer State

[@derekwilson5147]

I concur with your position. Has anyone ever asked a manager to grant them exceptions based on their concealed carry permit?

[@LegDayLas]

Sounds like an interaction that never actually happens in reality. Nobody makes this big of a scene over a sign.

[@magiclarry7688]

I just do my very best to avoid gun free zones. The proprietor doesn’t seem to need my money or business.

[@wtchr6883]

That's what they want you to do. Take your gun elsewhere.

[@magiclarry7688]

@@wtchr6883 works for me. And turning away a significant part of their business worked well for Bud Lite. Win, win for everyone.

[@bryanrabel5081]

Right on

[@robertdonaldson2321]

In my opinion ALL gun free zones EVERYWHERE violate the 2nd Amendment.

[@daveandrews5998]

Your opinion means nothing. Private business are free to do what they like on their premises and the 2d applies to the government, not private parties. Before you open your uneducated mouth, perhaps you should know what you are talking about...DIMWIT.

[@patrickfellers4266]

I agree. Schools are a bit sensitive but as we see villains care not at all about laws and supposed boundaries. To the point of we had more honest and heroically minded civilians the villains wouldn’t feel so safe to go out and attack peaceful people.

[@baconatordoom]

Yes, any public gun free area is unconstitutional, but most places that have those signs are private places. As a private place, the tax paying owner should have the right to say what can and can't be done in their property. If they don't like it, they have the right to ask you to leave, and if you don't, you can be tresspassed. If you don't like the policy, take your patronage elsewhere. Same with whatever property you own, you're the king of your castle and have the right to control what goes on. As an American who supports the constitution, it's hypocritical not to respect the wishes of owners with private property/businesses.

[@daveandrews5998]

@@baconatordoom You'd better be careful. Most KZbin lemming/commenters don't like the facts and DON'T respect the Constitution. They pick and choose which part they like and ignore everything else and lack the mental capacity to understand both their ignorance and hypocrisy. Prepare to be demonized by these fake patriots.

[@mikeymike2552]

Eh not really. Usually they're private establishments. They have the right to tell you that you can't have a gun on their property.

[@cletustollery6914]

I live in a a VERY liberal college town in the Midwest and these signs have been put on a lot of businesses. Some I used to do business with and, because of this sign, I no longer patronize. A few of the owners know my opinion.

[@bryanrabel5081]

Right on

[@StephanSkettini]

the indiana mall prohibited guns when Dicken stopped the mass shooter...so

[@Mandalore863]

I live in Virginia, so I'm not required to care about any "NO GUNS/WEAPONS ALLOWED" signs at all. I see em, go "Huh, that's interesting..." and go right on about my day

[@DetVen]

I shop at a Whole Foods near and they have "No Firearms Allowed" sign clearly visible as you walk inside. I ignore it of course, but they started placing hired security in there and I know they looking for prints. I conceal fairly well, so I'm not too concerned.

[@Jwilliamstech]

Yep, this 1000' rule is ridiculous, especially with Constitutional Carry here in Texas. I can understand maybe an additional charge if someone used a firearm to commit a crime within the 1000' bubble. Just possession shouldn't be a crime unless there is an actual crime committed!

[@killer13324]

From what i gathered, in the state of south carolina, the gun free zone sign carries with it the force of law meaning you could be straight up arrested for carrying in a gun free zone. Virginia and Indiana have no such weight placed on those signs.

[@sakridsky]

Here in Florida, those signs are basically unenforceable. So much so that, most businesses have taken them down. The only thing they can do is ask you to leave. If you go ahead and leave, no harm no foul. Unfortunately, most of the managers in these businesses won’t ask you to leave but will just call the police for a trespass warning.

[@deebee4575]

Yep.

[@patrickfellers4266]

I’m no lawyer but the same largely applies to establishments in FL as well. If it’s not distinctly visible and unobstructed it isn’t legally valid. There are also different rules for those with CCW and those who will soon be allow to permit less carry. More leeway with card holders than permitless carry. These law differences are especially important in the vicinity of a school.

[@Asidebar]

A sign like that in Florida is only a policy it is not a LAW.

[@patrickfellers4266]

@@Asidebar but it can be used in court such as civil lawsuits and so on hence “legally valid”. I agree it’s not law as such.

[@ericschneider8524]

Public schools are stealing money from the American taxpayers. See you in court.

[@johnsamsjr8670]

Love my 2A family Keep up the great work Stay safe everyone

[@bobhess8609]

I wish Ohio spelled signage out as clearly as South Carolina. Ohio's signage requirements are very vague. Several places near me have a frosted gunbuster decal in a lower corner of the front glass door, and it's legal here.

[@dragaknee]

Thank you for talking about this. Ive brought it up to friends/ family about driving or riding a bicycle by a school and i always get weird looks or told im. Aking something out of nothing.

[@wowmageturtle15]

few businesses in my city in West Virginia have a no guns allow sign. even my bank doesnt have one. we asked the manager to make sure we didnt miss it. he said "yes please carry! I hope you'd try and save any of our staff if we were being robbed"

[@glampervanadventures1117]

I saw a sign that said please refrain from openly carrying your weapon. This was in the state of Oregon.

[@WhiteYetiAK]

That's crazy. We carry guns into our post office, but we live in Alaska, and everyone has guns. I'm pretty sure nobody enforces that particular aw here.

[@Cant_Stop-Wont-Stop0329]

In my city the Mayor had a city ordinance passed that now considers city parks and recreation areas as school zones and therefore you cannot carry which is Bs. Thank goodness all be out of this city by the end of the month.

[@williamantico7768]

I'm a NC Concealed Handgun Instructor, and I can tell you there are a few things different here. 1 is if you go on School property and you;re armed in your car, you're OK as long as the gun stays in the car. Also, as far as stores are concerned, such as a mall, every entrance must be marked with a appropriate sign. If 1 Entrance doesn't have the sign you can say that's the entrance you came in and saw no sign. However I do agree with you about the printing. If you conceal carry good enough, NO ONE will know. Just don't bring a "Jackass" in with you that's going to tell people hey, he's carrying concealed here, is that OK ? Or when you're walking around they look at you and blurt out, hey, you're carrying concealed right now, aren't you ? It's always someone you're with that gets you into trouble. Especially kids. Hey Daddy, do you have your gun on you in here ? Or something like that. Be Careful.

[@navybound911]

Recently moved from SC to VA due to work. Virginia’s statute is garbagely vague. You can tape up an index card in a corner of a window and they will try to prosecute.

[@Cyberdemon-9001]

In my state, these signs must be on all entrances. If this is the case and someone is aware of your firearm the establishment can pull your invitation to the property. You then have to leave the premises immediately.

[@jimbefit3073]

Some states require a form to be filed with the county or police dept to be valid whatsoever.

[@jimbolxvi6428]

If I see a no firearms sign it’s a no brainer to me I will not give them my business so just pass them and go elsewhere. With that said I’ve only ever seen a no firearms allowed sign once in my state and fortunately that place went out of business years ago.

[@TroyBierkortte]

The 1000 foot bubble around schools is almost impossible to avoid in some places. Those zones overlap a lot. As you said, it’s okay on private property. But if you park on the street at your friend’s house, you’re on public property until you cross his property line. However, having a State-issued permit or license to carry is also an exception. You still can’t go onto school property, but you can be on public property inside the 1000 ft. zone.

[@hillbillyjackhole]

Those signs don't hold weight in WV except in schools, courthouses, capital building and post offices. If the store asks you to leave, you have to leave or be trespassed.

[@w_6880]

Don't forget the exclusion for Law Enforcement Officers under LEOSA, which allows off-duty officers to carry firearms into restricted areas when off-duty except federal buildings and some state buildings.

[@newguy2794]

I know a guy who went to the VA for a doctor's appointment and parked in the VA parking lot. He left his gun locked up in his car. He didn't take his holster off his belt. Someone saw the holster and called the police. They investigated, and he was arrested when the police found the gun in a lockbox his vehicle. Sad!

[@dragonf1092]

He should sue and bring criminal charges against all officers involved and the hospital staff under title 18 U.S.C. section 241 conspiracy against rights and title 18 U.S.C. section 242 deprivation of rights under color of law. The statute of limitations is seven years,if death results there are no statute of limitations.

[@newguy2794]

@dragonf1092 Thanks, I will tell him

[@newguy2794]

@dragonf1092 Our government is no longer for and by the people .Its now for and by the government against the people +

[@r.f.pennington746]

I've done a personal workaround for the Post Office. Frequent mailer here. I now use the local Pak n' Mail...or whatever it's called. Sure, the prices are just a tad bit higher--they've got to make some money--but I'll gladly trade that for not having to lock up every time. I also buy my stamps over the internet directly from the PO. As far as I know, there's no law against ordering stamps while armed. Not yet, anyway...

[@giantdad1661]

If you take a gun into a gun free zone and ultimately use it, the prosecution would have a hard time(depending on the state) prosecuting you because they cant prove you had no need for it when obviously a shooting was stopped.

[@lordofpain3476]

When I see that sign I no longer do business with that company .

[@one-eye4511]

I simply avoid business that put up these signs. I have even gone so far as telling that to the manager of a business. The signage law in SC was specifically written so that you could not use standard printer paper to reproduce (size). However, as far as out of spec signs being of no affect, I would point out that, if the owner presses charges, you still have to hire a lawyer and pay for that ride.

[@Kilo_Charlie626]

If I get wounded or killed in a gun free zone, I or my family will sue the store for taking my right to self defense.

[@chrisgoehring7732]

In Ohio there is no legal penalty if there is a sign if they ask you to leave and you don’t you can be charged with trespassing

[@brandon7219]

Thankfully I live in South Dakota where those signs have no force. "Signs advising “no guns allowed”, “no weapons”, and similar language have no force of law in South Dakota unless the location is specifically prohibited in statute. The owner of private property or their designee may ask anyone carrying a firearm to leave or remove the firearm from the property." We are also a Constitutional Carry state...soooo no permit required

[@arikjohnson412]

Defenseless victim zones are voluntarily adhered to in Wisconsin where I live but trespassing is only prosecuted if you refuse to leave when asked. I never open carry; all weapons are concealed and I carry at all times when I’m not going through a metal detector. As a result I mostly ignore them.

[@Str8Bidness]

Remember also that in almost every jurisdiction I know of, the element of "Criminal Trespass cannot be satisfied unless someone with legal authority over that property ( an employee) asks you to leave. An employee can't just play hide and watch, and call the police on you, and then you be cited with Criminal Trespass. The directive to leave must be met, providing you with a layer of protection from prosecution. Then you can get out with an "Oop! My bad. I didn't notice the sign." Then leave. In addition, here in Texas, the legal 30.06 and 30.07 warning signs, which must be properly displayed are, to use a phrase from my Nebraskan best friend; "Honk'n."😊

[@FoxholeIndustries]

It depends on the state. Indiana the signs carry no weight of law. Only in federal buildings.

[@deadfirefighter]

There was a recent video posted out of Denver where people from a business with one of those signs were outside by a homeless man’s tent talking to cops to have the homeless man removed from in front of the business and the homeless man attacked them with a machete. Any business that has one of those signs is declaring they want their employees and customers to be the victims of criminal activity in the proximity of that business.

[@alansloan7784]

Businesses that post signs like that are just begging for criminals to 'visit' them....Fools!

[@Logan2070]

I do not recall ever seeing one of those signs, but then I'm not looking for them so I'd never notice one. In fact I cant recall ever being told that there are any restrictions on where I can carry. The only thing I can recall is needing to go through a metal detector and half the time those fail...

[@BenGates101]

I saw a few in Houston TX when I was there

[@voodoopat5518]

Basically, there are 2 types of private properties that post “no firearms” signs: (1) those that post signs and actually secure their premises by screening people upon entry, and (2) those that post signs and do nothing to screen people upon entry. I have much less issues with #1, since these establishments are taking some ownership in ensuring that people comply with their policies. Unfortunately, very few private properties actually do this. In the past few years, the only places I visited that did this were airports, government locations and Disneyworld. Private places that post “gun free” signs but do nothing to enforce them are, in my opinion, naive and misguided, since they are just making their places less safe by prohibiting law abiding people from carrying ( or forcing them to possibly place themselves in legal peril). However, until laws change, there isn’t much to be done about it.

[@YvesAlexandre]

Here in the Gunshine State, proving in a court of law that someone actually saw and read signage is a monumental overtaking. Moreover signage is meaningless unless it has penal code on it like 18 USC 930 for example which are usually placed conspicuously on federal buildings.

[@andrewrandolph8278]

The 1990 Gun Free Schools Act is no longer in effect after the US Supreme Court’s ruling in US v Lopez, which held Congress exceeded the scope of their authority under the commerce clause. As a result, state legislatures have enacted their own laws and it may only be a misdemeanor, or there may be statute that restricts what the schools can ban like in Texas.

[@bobjohnson5218]

Wasn't there an active shooter in an Indiana mall last year that was taken out by an armed customer on a long shot? The mall was a gun free zone but the owners of the mall thanked the guy and didn't press any charges. I also believe had they pressed charges it would have only been a trespassing violation.

[@joshuaraffensperger3592]

If you are conceal carrying correctly they will never know. The only way they will know is if you’re not conceal carrying properly or you had to use said concealed firearm in self defense.

[@toddallen7436]

Unless it's a school or a state/government building I'm carrying. Also if it's a retailer or something of that sort I'm going to be considering where else to give my business to that doesn't infringe on my rights. That goes for employers as well, my rights trump your policies.

[@richardgollehon3283]

I have done this. If you dont feel comfortable you gotta do it anyways. Yep.

[@eliastamez8413]

That sign with a red circle on the gun is not valid in Texas. It has to have the law written out in white one inch letters in front. And it has to state the 3 laws open carry, concealed carry, and if you have a LTC. If one of them is not stated it’s not valid.

[@rlrpjp]

I was working 3rd shift at a gas station a little while back. They fired me for carrying concealed while at work. Even though i told the manager that the female i worked overnight with had been getting threatened for that whole week. My coworker was overjoyed that i carried. There wasn't a sign anywhere saying that I couldn't carry on the property.

[@Matt-mb4go]

The simplest way to put it is, "Law over policy". If you know where you can legally carry in your state then you're good to go. I live in Utah, which is a top tier, pro 2A state. Essentially, the only places where it's illegal to carry are government buildings such as a post office, and LDS church buildings. Which means if I want to carry in a school, movie theater, college campus, or literally anywhere else, I can. If there is a "No firearms allowed" sign posted say, at a movie theater, that is the theaters POLICY. However, the LAW says yes I can carry in the theater, RESPONSIBLY. So if I carry in the theater and I have to use my firearm or someone happens to catch a glimpse of it because my shirt lifts up, the theater can ask me to leave or put my firearm in my car, but they can't take any legal action against me (as long as I'm being responsible). You have to still be smart and sensible. If the theater saw my CCW and asked me to go put it in my car, I would. I'm not going to make a big deal about it and try to make a viral video over it even though the law is on my side.

[@jeffreyyoung4104]

Whenever I see the sign, I walk away if I can go elsewhere, or buy off the internet if not local. If it is a business where I can't go elsewhere, I strap, and stay quiet.

[@billtaylor1656]

Concealed means concealed so if the establishment don't know they don't know

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

being in a post office, or its land, with a gun... is NOT a "crime"..... not even if "the law" says it is. no victim, no crime, no exception.............plus, it violates the second amendment.

[@fochhyou5722]

Depends on the state. Some it doesn’t matter that you have it on you still have to be asked to leave before you can be charged of a crime

[@deskins6337]

About the work situation I think a lot of times it's completely ridiculous to say you can't carry a firearm while working. Like pizza delivery guys, that's actually a really dangerous job. You're going to people's homes that you don't know, you're meeting people at places other than their house and you are dealing with a lot of people who are drinking or on drugs. I deliver pizzas part-time on the weekends and where I do this is in a small town it doesn't have a really high crime rate but we do have our share of violent crime, mostly because of people who are drinking or people who are on methamphetamines. There are several places where we have to go meet people that are closed businesses, there's not good lighting, there is usually no one around, and a lot of times you have no idea who you're meeting. Like if it's a cash order you don't know if they gave their correct name and phone number and even if it's being paid for by credit card you have no idea if it's actually their credit card or if they've stolen someone else. So in my opinion it's extremely dangerous situations that normally I wouldn't put myself in but I'm raising four children on my own so I have to have the extra money. Anyway sorry for rambling but my point is, we are allowed to carry our firearms in our vehicle because it's our own private property, but not allowed to carry it on us. Which I think is ridiculous. If we are out of our vehicle and away from it a gun in our vehicle isn't going to do us any good

[@nathant3897]

He’s not kidding about restaurants I’ve seen some crazy crap go down.

[@Swearengen1980]

In Florida that sign doesn't mean shit if it's not a federal building. No follow up. All they can do is ask you to leave; if you don't, a trespassing charge. Schools, you can have a gun in your secured vehicle. Which is pointless anyway, because realistically, who is taking a firearm out of their vehicle to drive through a school pickup/drop off line? No one. Employers can't tell employees they're not allowed to have a firearm in their vehicle at least.

[@ChrisHirner]

In missouri We pretty much ignore em. They can ask you to leave if someone sees it. You only get trouble if you refuse to leave.

[@robertkreamer7522]

As a retired lawyer , and a disrupter of idiotic laws ( remember who sponsored it in the senate ) I would tell the business owner that I will comply with your sign as long as you sign this agreement on a card I hand you . The agreement would state that should a n armed criminal enter here and shoot the place up you the owner take full responsibility for any injuries i or my family may suffer as a result of your requirement that contrary to my 2 A rights I could not defend myself or others . The school law of course actually invites violence, and given the level of violence and sexual exploitation against children in this country one might question the motives of the cesspool dwellers in DC intended as to consequences of their laws . Just saying . The school rule should be obeyed but challenged in court or in your legislature. How many business owners will sign my card ? What do you all think ?

[@brentbeaman2985]

You are absolutely right some gun free zones sucks I can understand some government buildings though not a fan of most of the gun free zones

[@nugget1104]

Unless it’s a government building, I don’t leave it in the car. I’d rather be trespassed than lose my life.

[@stephenkidder8876]

I ignore these signs. I go nowhere unarmed unless somewhere that is against the law such as a courtroom. They will never know I have it, unless I need it, in which case it won't matter.

[@comeandfindme.45]

I have accidentally carried everywhere and believe me, it was not intentional. Even in the PO, which is a Federal felony, I don't even think of my weapon, it's home is on my person. Enough said.

[@ultimatemaster2407]

Well unfortunately I would get fired. Pennsylvania doesn't recognize those signs, but that doesn't stop employers from canning ya for carrying.

[@olysean92]

I would never spend a dime at such an establishment.

[@BigEvil13]

Is Pennsylvania those signs are not recognized unless prescribed by the rules off CCW. Those places are the typical courthouses, schools, and government properties. If you are seen carrying a firearm in those places, they can ask you to leave, and if you don't leave, they can trespass you.

[@ghosthunter0404]

You should be able to sue a company thats a gun free zone if you or your family was in said store when a dangerous situation happens and they didnt defend everyone from the situation.

[@paulhearn9842]

Living in Texas we have 30.05, 30.06 and 30.07 signs that are to be posted with very specific instructions. Signs like you showed are not legal here and do not need to be followed. However, you can still be removed for trespass at the owner's discretion.

[@thundergod2645]

I just started back at the gum a couple months back an man o man did I feel like a sitting duck in there at first *gun free zones *lots of people gathered in a small area *only one exit to retreat if some shit went down. Prime target without a doubt, finally I said F it and started putting my carry gun in a small backpack and bringing it in with me. I'll be damned if I get shot full of holes because of a gap ass sign and ideology.

[@wilburtubbs3425]

I got fired from from a business for concealed carry in the buissness

[@JustinCase-em6ql]

Mine only comes off for metal detectors. When it comes to my and my family's safety, I make the rules.

[@godzilla7382]

there is a huge diff between policy and law. stores do not make law but can make policies. as a private establishment you "have" to follow their rules close enough to appease them for continued service. as it is the establishments right to deny you service/access to their facilities and services for any reason within the confines of the written laws that govern the local lands it resides on. that being said once asked to leave if you do not do so you will be legally trespassed from the property by law enforcement if u refuse to leave after the law tell you to go then you will be charged. an employee of the establishment in the store has to physically/verbally in person tell you to leave. it would greatly benefit you to audio/video record everything and ask them to repeat what they said before the recording started. without evidence everything is hearsay and you are going to be outnumbered in this situation. save this for as long as the statute of limitations on the situation can possibly last.

[@rangerjack9727]

Your car is an extension of your home therefore private property, I will typically disarm for fed property and enforced property, ie places with metal detection and bag checks personally

[@dabaydestrian437]

I ignore the sign.. nobody will know you have a gun, unless your life is in danger. but when you're life is in danger, would you worry about being alive or worry about breaking the no gun law?

[@chadwickhodulik2311]

Naaaaa can't leave it behind even if I go GoCart Riding.. 😂 👍👍

[@frankrosenbloom]

I also live in SC. If a business has such a sign I don’t do business there. As a doctor who works in hospitals, it bothers me that I can’t carry at work without the express permission of the CEO. As far as schools, I like how Idaho does it. There are signs warning that staff members are armed. The school rule is reminiscent of the blue states. How idiotic. Gun free zones are the most dangerous.

[@icabod3374]

In Tennessee the sign must show the penal code “As Authorized by T.C.A. § 39-17-1359.” So, I guess that means these homemade and Amazon generic signs aren't valid.

[@daleleppert6914]

If my gun is not welcome, neither is my money. It's that easy. You can always buy what you need some place else.

[@xAy3x]

Only places I don't carry are one's with metal detectors and personnel actively checking bags. Therefore, I just no longer go to those establishments. My loved ones are more important to me than the laws set forth by timid, naive, fools..

[@ethanamldon5657]

The rules on the sign posting changed when SC started with the new open carry law now it just has to be posted on every entrance it no longer has all the size regulations. In schools if you have a permit in sc you can have a gun in your car on school property but cannot take it in the school

[@nhbountyhunter]

I believe here in NH if you are open to the public then such signs are unenforceable. Now at places like Costco and Sam's club it is enforceable as they are technically not open to the public they are a members only facility. I had a mall call the cops on me about 20 years ago because I was carrying ( it was raining out I was using a shoulder holster when I got inside I went to the bathroom and rang out my overshirt and a guard walked in). Cops detained me, I called a sheriff friend and he came by and professionally and politely told the city cops what was up. Signs are still up but nobody enforces it at all.

[@bobawful3198]

I get it , if you’re sneaky enough it’ll be no harm no foul. It brings to light your honor being questionable at best. In Iowa they’re supposed to have a guard & a lockbox at the front door to go along with the sticker or you kaan be respectful of wherever you’re visiting. If it means that much to you just adjust your behavior to not go to places you disagree with, besides paying my water bill it’s working great for me. It’s tougher to do & inconvenient but my honor stays in tact

[@billtaylor1656]

The one thing about the constitution is that it leaves states to make laws, so if a state sets gun laws, then thise are the laws to abide by. Example, we don't licenses to travel, but we all have one, yet not all of us drive, we travel.

[@jimmywolfe7616]

Good people with a permit should be able to carry their gun anywhere anytime.

[@daytonatom7556]

Like other people replied, these are policies not laws, my son and I visited a local small family owned supermarket and they had the sign outside, we did ignore it, I can't become vulnerable because of a policy, like other people replied when the criminals obey we will all obey

[@robbybowers4106]

Love the advise. I live in a small town in Illinois and my old highschool surprisingly was one of the first schools in Illinois to certify a couple of our teachers to carry in class as long as it's kept in a lock box or finger print security box in the desk drawer. Granted those couple of teachers are retired military

[@derekray7144]

Those signs make the general public feel safe. If you ever worked at a job such as retail or sales, you know most of the general public is stupid. They are more like guidlines anyway. In my (free) state, if I break that rule, I'm simply tresspassing. Better to be judged by 12 of your peers, than carried by 6.

[@maximumzen3254]

My life is more important than a fine, jail time or a job. I can always pay off a fine, serve time or get another job. What I can't do is come back to life and see my wife and child again.

[@tbrecords7042]

I ain't defending nobody then end up in jail F that💯

[@michaelross1943]

If your weapon is concealed, no one in that place will know you are carrying a weapon.

[@LS-cy7zy]

I would prefer to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, lived by this in combat and I live by it now, I carry everywhere concealed means only I know

[@notsure9853]

Ya I still carry .. everywhere I go some places may not like that I have it but I really don't care I'm willing to chance it I carry everyday for the last 26yrs

[@Van-zf9iw]

When I see a sign like that, I just keep going somewhere else. My bank does not even have those signs!

[@yoloactual6975]

Consequences are zero. You get asked to leave. Obviously, if you're an idiot and refuse, you deserve what's coming to you. Whether you are carrying or not.

[@kevinborish]

The state I live in those signs don’t carry any weight. All they can do is ask you to leave or put it away and if you don’t then they can have you trespassed by law enforcement but even then there’s no trespassing with a firearm charge in my state like other states. My state also allows carrying in bars and even drinking while carrying I know some states don’t but where other states allow you to pick up kids or be in a school parking lot with a locked up firearm my state strictly forbids any firearms anywhere on school premises

[@zozoartstudio4727]

Every time I see a sign like that I enter the area as if I’m breaching a suspects house.

[@andrewbrownrealtor]

I just don't recommend carrying within the post office if you enjoy having your CCW.

[@powerninjaie5323]

I understand why some people think we need armed guards in schools to protect kids from shooters. But on the opposite part of the spectrum if we do bring armed guards into schools, What's to stop the armed guards from going crazy & taking out children without any real just reason for such an action.