Helas Madame - Henry VIII

4 parts chanson
multitrack recording (with flutes and drums)
one man choir

[@giontesla2311]

Listening to this mostly 3-4 times per day. Every day.

[@zsoltkiss545]

"Helas madam" is a folk song widely attributed to Henry VIII, but which in reality appears in the Bayeux Manuscript, but which in reality appears in the Bayeux Manuscript, compiled during the final decades of the 15th century. The song is part of a secular collection, found on a manuscript that was used in Henry's court. The originality of the song has been questioned, with various parts of the song allegedly lifted from similar pieces in Europe. The song itself is a courtship conversation in Middle French between a man and woman.

[@callimacos]

Helas madame, celle que j’ayme tant: Souffrez que soye vostre humble servant; Vostre humble servant je serays a toujours Et tant que je viv’ray aultr’ n’aymeray que vous.

[@dorpdavid]

Ouais tu parles ! En chanson seulement !

[@benoitdelalainghistoriarum5667]

@@dorpdavid XD

[@Mikaelaverse]

Oh my grop! What a beautiful song!

[@broncohutchings3451]

I remember learning this tune from my old string group. Very lovely memories!

[@harrietharlow9929]

I'll have to say, he composed some very nice songs.

[@leone.6190]

Wow, one man sang this all. Amazing Singer.

[@PhantomQueenOne]

Wow, that's lovely! Slow and courtly dance music.

[@claudiapinho-memorias]

Amo essa musica. Henrique VIII era um grande compositor

[@roselynearab9010]

comment un tel homme a t-il pu composer de si belles mélodies ? c,est un mystére !!! cet air est magnifique , et illustre si bien la Renaissance

[@Bumblebee-999]

The best version on YT !

[@npe1]

I'm afraid it is an urban myth that Henry composed 'Greensleeves'. Yes I know it is a widely held popular view but it cannot be true as 'Greensleeves' is based on the Italian Renaissance style of composition that did not reach England until the reign of his daughter Elizabeth 1st some 20 or so years after his death. In fact, the earliest reference we have to 'Greensleeves' is 1580 by which time Henry had been dead for 33 years.

[@lorenzoc.b.9809]

But you can't deny that legends are quite cool.

[@rosierennie5867]

THANK YOU. It's nice to see that someone has some knowledge of Tudor Music

[@martinlewis1583]

How can the Italian style not have reached England, when Antonio (Anthony) Bassano, a member of the famous Venetian musical family, was living and working at Henry's court from around the late 1530's on? Of course that doesn't prove Henry composed Greensleeves, but It means it can't be completely ruled out.

[@rosierennie5867]

@@martinlewis1583 Greensleeves was composed WAAAAAY after Henry's death. It was written in the Elizabethan Era. Elizabeth favoured Italian styles of clothing and music

[@jinz0]

no actually it's very reasonable that he did greensleeves obviously he didn't compose it but with help of italian musicians that were in his court at the time, the style became more popular after his death, just like today music, but back then everything spread slowly so 30 years was like 3-4 years worth of evolution in modern day

[@AnnetteMurphyger]

So beautiful. It reminds me of another tune from that period. I like the drum in this piece.

[@lakishajenkins]

Beautiful!

[@LADYVERONA19841985]

Hello! My name is Maria Teresa Innecco Corrêa and I'm 55 years old. I'm from Brazil and, at just 14, I went to a Medieval and Renaissance music concert, do you believe it? In fact, my first one! Unforgettable in my opinion! In 1984, I bought the LP of David Munrow, playing Medieval and Renaissance music. Wow, I still remember this! Simply loved this LP! Well, people, I'll close this long message here! Greetings from Brazil and Latin America! A nice weekend to everybody! Bye!

[@loulousaucier5585]

I will believe it since I am now 14

[@claudiapinho-memorias]

Belíssima!

[@LateMoonGrass]

Beautiful piece. It somewhat reminds me of The Place I'll Return to Someday from Final Fantasy IX.

[@Geografiaprof.2373]

lindas melodias que me inspiram em ler e meditar nas sagradas escrituras!

[@grerika]

Beautiful! I am wondering whether the original rhythm is faster or the same.

[@ŁiveẞtreamMænia]

Same rate but more vocals

[@johannespanagiotopoulos4917]

we will never know. We are not even sure for Bach's music.

[@GV75010]

Actually@@johannespanagiotopoulos4917 it's quite easy to know in this case: it has to be easily danceable so that doesn't leave much leeway for interpretation.

[@edouardvaillancourt8195]

Watch the band Skarazula- Hélas madame, the beat is a bit faster

[@belkismartin7019]

!!!BELLEZA....SIN PALABRAS!!!

[@aimsdog53]

thank you, beautiful

[@jinz0]

definitely he did greensleeves with help of italian musicians that were in his court at the time

[@mayermargolis8990]

The story I heard was that Henry VIII would take 3-part songs add another part and put his name on them. When you are a king, you can do this.

[@LarthVolos]

It is called sampling :)

[@alexandradeuen1610]

Schöne melodie !

[@saphirus1]

Lovely!

[@madeleineramone7124]

@Karanys Domynus I like rap and early music.

[@StargateAdventures]

Madeleine Ramone Yeah, I can see stuff in Kendrick Lamar's rap/poetry that clearly has a direct lineage from the likes of Shakespeare. :) Rap is awesome, early period stuff is awesome.

[@turinderiv]

Heureusement que vous êtes là pour nous égayer de guillerettes chansons de la renaissance qui nous parle proprement d'amour !

[@Jalapablo]

Henry VIII was actually a faily acomplished composer in his own right.

[@mrsully77]

merci alqasar pour cette chanson formidable

[@dewd9327]

Anne Boleyn: getting her head chopped off Henry:

[@bensilliman7937]

Fatness was not considered attractive and women loved him because he was the KING OF ENGLAND, not because he was fat! In his younger years he was extremely athletic and fit. He did not gain his weight until after the jousting accident left him disabled which and unable to do much of the physical activities that he once did. Henry is believed to have suffered from Type 2 Diabetes and/or McLeod Syndrome. Therefore, without physical exercise and POSSIBLY having these diseases he became obese.

[@FedericoRosenfeld]

So beautiful!

[@wessexfox5197]

Sad to think this may have been composed in honour of Katherine of Aragon given what would later transpire in 1527.

[@janalikowski7813]

Great and the rhythm is correctly for the dance steps in that period. Most interpretations are too fast. Thanks!

[@C6H12B26]

Greensleeves was composed before he was born .... Best wishes,

[@rosierennie5867]

Greensleeves was composed in the 1580's Best wishes

[@jinz0]

@@rosierennie5867 no actually it's very reasonable that he did greensleeves obviously he didn't compose it but with help of italian musicians that were in his court at the time, the style became more popular after his death, just like today music, but back then everything spread slowly so 30 years was like 3-4 years worth of evolution in modern day, for example 'Smells like teen spirit' by nirvana is still popular now even though it was over 30 years ago, best wishes

[@rosierennie5867]

Description: One Man Choir Me: Wut? 😳😍😳😍😳

[@josephbocotan8403]

I'm so high and this hits different

[@Hardrada88]

superb, fantastic :)

[@milenabowring3286]

helped my son on his exam

[@mlealolmedo]

Brava! Brava! :D

[@GlenShannon]

A beautiful pavane- did you play and sing everything yourself? :)

[@Shadyganleymawn]

Like if you're listening in the 17th century

[@kimmy0489]

I see. :) Well then, it's still a beautiful melody! :) Thank you very much for the info. :)

[@Robheiin]

excellent

[@kimmy0489]

He's even suspected to have composed one of today's most symbolic folklorique british melody: Greensleeves. It's when he fell in love with Anne Boleyn that his personality! She drove him crazy, he was so obsessed with her, I've never seen such obsession in my life! So naturally, she broke him and took away all the good in him, and that's how he became the horrible man he was...

[@rosierennie5867]

He did NOT compose Greensleeves, that was written almost thirty years after he died in the Italian Renaissance style. Henry only wrote Music in the French Style. Henry was Horrible way before he met Anne, it just got worse with time

[@jinz0]

no actually it's very reasonable that he did greensleeves obviously he didn't compose it but with help of italian musicians that were in his court at the time, the style became more popular after his death, just like today music, but back then everything spread slowly so 30 years was like 3-4 years worth of evolution in modern day, for example 'Smells like teen spirit' by nirvana is still popular now even though it was over 30 years ago

[@ShutupNerd]

Pirate King!!

[@D_Marrenalv]

Sublime. Beautiful.

[@vaessenphm]

cest le esprit de cette Temps perdue

[@meusisto]

What do you mean by "in his own right", please?

[@kostasomnibus4916]

what the fuck it sounds like ff9 tera

[@DreamArkhos]

This is Henry write the song ?

[@jinz0]

yea, he wrote alot, not Greensleeves but he did help compose with the Italian musicians in his court at the time but it only became popular after he already died

[@kimmy0489]

Actually, at this time, fatness was fashionable and fat people were considered the beautiful, healthy and wealthy people, as thin ones were considered ugly as they couldn't afford to eat correctly. Henry was a fine King in terms of attractiveness, women loved him. And he wasn't that bad at first, he was actually very smart, some even say he was a Genius. He composed a lot, he wrote a lot, he studied a lot.

[@robertwall7482]

I love it the best

[@kimmy0489]

*his personality changed

[@jasontucher7011]

King Henry is one of my most favorite. The guy is just great and the only problem he had was that he thought God hated him. Really that's what started the whole beheading thing. I mean the guy was the first guy to do the whole divorce thing in over a thousand years so there's a learning curve. He was really handsome, was great at sports, loved to party, had great taste in food and architecture, plus he wrote music. He dissed the pope, started my favorite church, conquered the french and welsh, and I think is one of the best kings in the past thousand years. People who don't like him seem shallow at this point. God save King Henry!

[@wessexfox5197]

He was a gluttonous, prideful schismatic who betrayed a loyal and pious wife of 20 years for some mid-noble Kentish hussy. He then betrayed his good and loyal wife Jane Seymour via using her to trap those involved in the Pilgrimage of Grace, a rightful movement to restore the Monasteries and true ecclesiastical authority. He unfairly got rid of Anne of Cleves purely because he felt slighted by her on their first meeting where Henry, being in disguise, felt injured by the fact Anne ignored him and that she naturally found him grotesque and ugly. He then got involved with poor little Katherine Howard when he should’ve known better. Other than his music; Renaissance interests and minor victories against France, both of which were relatively minor and cost England a fortune to fund, he was on the whole a contemptible tyrant who got his just deserts in death as his coffin exploded at his funeral.

[@jasontucher7011]

@@wessexfox5197 Ye olde shite thrown lol. The real tyrants in this case were the monasteries, their abbots, and the whole hoard of papist idolaters who had a monopoly on the land and held the necks of the peasantry under their boots. God be praised that our good and noble king henry freed the serfs and saved england from the clutches of satan. The poor peasants who were unjustly taxed and tithed could not produce enough food for themselves and the monasteries at every corner. As for the rest of what you said, kings are by god appointed and cannot sin. Do you not think that if the wives of the king were as good and blameless as you say, that they should by god be saved? Do you believe that propriety has been given to such a sinful and despotic thing as the pope in rome? You commit blasphemy by holding in open and seditious contempt the will of God! Recusant! May god have mercy on your poor wretched contempted soul. Come to Jesus, repent, and be saved! 🤣I dont believe a bit of that. I havent had a straight face in 5 minutes.

[@wessexfox5197]

@@jasontucher7011 Protestant nonsense, those monasteries helped thousands of the peasantry. Oh and no I don’t but to dare question the piety of Katherine of Aragon or Jane Seymour shows you to be a fool. Oh and you do release tithes continued under Elizabeth too right? God judged Henry and his entire accursed line by the fact it ended pathetically and that he had only one sickly little boy. Your Protestant nonsense of divine right of kings has allowed the enemies of Christ and all that is good to slowly undermine European civilisation, look at the slow and steady shift from Henry to Charles I and the growth of autistic anti-clerical and proto-Republicanism all of which happened when Henry created the schism.

[@ultraviolent29]

@ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ Lots of middle aged men are fat. But up till around age 40 he was handsome, so what's the problem?

[@koreknoes9357]

whos here from a history lesson