Fast Caramelized Onions Using Water from America's Test Kitchen

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Helen Rennie

Helen Rennie

Күн бұрын

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@amarug
@amarug Жыл бұрын
I am no chef, just a home cook but I tend to think mostly in terms of physics and chemistry (due to degeneration from my profession). For many years I have added salt and water at the start when I needed to brown onions or mushrooms. My thinking was: the salty water creates an osmotic potential to draw out the water from the onions (or mushrooms) together with the sugars and the steaming softens them so that the contact area increases (as you said yourself) boosting the browning. I never thought much of it, but it is fun to see how now this seems to have become something that people talk about in channels that I have always loved, such as yours.
@jmlinden7
@jmlinden7 Жыл бұрын
The water conducts heat faster so it gets the interior of the onions up to temp faster.
@knickly
@knickly Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder about dry salting the onions cold, then letting them macerate - much like when making kraut. Thus, no water is added, and the initial step doesn't require watching a hot pan. Another option that occurs to me is blanching, letting them drain/dry, then proceeding.
@californicated_
@californicated_ Жыл бұрын
​@@knickly you lose onion juice (flavor) then tho?
@knickly
@knickly Жыл бұрын
@@californicated_ perhaps - it is a risk. But it might be worth it nonetheless.
@mushy470
@mushy470 Жыл бұрын
@@knickly I do this. I once did it accidentally bc i just put the onions and salt in a pan and got distracted (adhd). When i came back some liquid had released and it turned out really well. This actually led me to just adding water myself though as it is just easier imo thank leaving raw onions hanging about, especially because of the smell and tears.
@derimmerlugt3032
@derimmerlugt3032 Жыл бұрын
I was taught to do it this way nearly 20 years ago by my mom, and she learned it working in a hotel kitchen years before that, so this trick has definitely been around for a while.
@intraum
@intraum Жыл бұрын
who was implying this is a brand new invention? onions have been around for thousands of years
@derimmerlugt3032
@derimmerlugt3032 Жыл бұрын
@@intraum Someone in your head, presumably.
@rachelle1
@rachelle1 Жыл бұрын
​@@derimmerlugt3032 some people just troll around looking to be offended. I appreciated your comment. Thanks for sharing 😊
@nolansykinsley3734
@nolansykinsley3734 Жыл бұрын
I recently came across a different take on this method, it used a stainless pan and used 3 additions of water. A larger first addition while covered to steam and once they start caramelizing and a good fond develops like you said deglaze with water and all of the stuff will be picked up by the onions, keep going and when a second fond forms again deglaze again, when the last addition of water is all gone the onions should be nice and caramelized and covered with all the stuff from the pan.
@lesdmark
@lesdmark Жыл бұрын
In addition, you also get to skip your daily dose of PTFE as your not using non-stick cookware.
@cstz
@cstz Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is how I've been doing it for ages, and as someone else said, it eliminates the need for teflon. As for vegetables other than onions, I'm curious to try Brian Lagerstrom's method for quick weeknight meals, wich is pretty much the reverse: quick hard sear, and them a splash of water to help them finishing cooking.
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about all that lovely fond in the pan being left behind. I assume you could deglaze and use it for sauces too, but with the onions you want the flavor IN the onions
@andersonomo597
@andersonomo597 Жыл бұрын
Great tip!! THANKS!! I gave up nonstick pans ages ago as I got sick of them failing - even the really expensive ones. I regularly polish my pans with fine metal polish - and nothing sticks - and they're so much healthier than nonstick.
@timaal5897
@timaal5897 Жыл бұрын
this is the way I've been doing it too!
@max_meliani
@max_meliani Жыл бұрын
Lan Lam is a genius. She's able to explain the most counterintuitive techniques in a way that makes them sound obvious!
@multicoloredwiz
@multicoloredwiz Жыл бұрын
Every video you produce is so wonderful, informative, and yet succinct! Far and away, among the finest producers on the tube. I REALLY appreciate them and all your hard work!!! And furthermore, your propensity to look into those tales spun by those old wives has proven helpful in opening my mind! GOD BLESS!!!
@HyperactiveNeuron
@HyperactiveNeuron Жыл бұрын
Excellent point about heat settings. Most people in the US have an electric stovetop. Anytime a recipe says high heat I start on medium high. If it says medium high I go to medium. High heat on most electric cook tops for more than a couple minutes is hot enough to warp your pan, burn your food and maybe vaporize Teflon which is poisonous.
@Rowgue51
@Rowgue51 9 ай бұрын
The only people I know that have electric stove are people that live in apartments. I've never seen anybody living in an actual house have an electric stove.
@mathsinger
@mathsinger 3 ай бұрын
I have lived in two houses with electric stoves - no gas hookups. For over 10 years now, I've used induction and love it.
@r.g.sanson133
@r.g.sanson133 2 ай бұрын
​Ive only had electric stoves my entire life. There is indeed alot of them out there being used. ​@@Rowgue51
@rumbleinthekitchen_Amy
@rumbleinthekitchen_Amy Жыл бұрын
I've tried this and it's pretty cool. I hated how oily the onions got with adding extra oil along the way, so I switched to deglazing with a little water instead & pleasantly surprised. When I saw Lan's video it validated everything I'd been doing so I told my husband I was a genius and didn't even know it. 😂
@hiwelcometochillis2579
@hiwelcometochillis2579 Жыл бұрын
I did it and taste musty not caramelized it's that good or need sugar
@briwindau4861
@briwindau4861 Жыл бұрын
I do this with onions in a cast iron skillet. I do have the issue with some browning sticking to the pan but since I often do one pan meals I'm able to recover a lot of that browning and flavor with the addition of the next ingredient. Love the note of knowing your pan and stove to be careful with the heat. You have incredibly thorough content and I appreciate how much time you spent in exploring this concept to share with us!
@Xubono
@Xubono Жыл бұрын
This might not be popular, but I usually precook / soften my sliced onions with a small amount of water, in a glass saucepan, with the lid on, IN THE MICROWAVE. Just a few minutes is enough to make the onions softer and translucent. I then transfer to a non-stick pan (*lightly* greased with clarified butter). I used white onions, which have a sharper flavour, and end up sweeter when caramelised. If I don’t want the caramel flavour in some recipes, I cook in the microwave as above, but include 1/2 finely chopped granny smith apple to subtilely sweeten the onions.
@Sampster0
@Sampster0 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Do you use the microwave to speed other steps in the cooking process?
@Xubono
@Xubono Жыл бұрын
@@Sampster0I do most of my cooking in the microwave. I purchased my first microwave oven in 1984, which I continued to use until it stopped working last year (after 38 years). I still brown meat, onions etc, and cook bacon & eggs in a frypan, nearly everything else goes in the microwave. I rarely use any oil.
@prashantmaheshwari7933
@prashantmaheshwari7933 Жыл бұрын
@@Xubono Please post some more of your recipes , Most KZbin recipes call for so much oil and methods which take so much time. How much time in microwave for this?
@JK-pp2xl
@JK-pp2xl 2 ай бұрын
What a coincidence. I did this with some small potatoes today, because I forgot to cook them. Turned out perfectly cooked. Could not tell any difference if I had boiled them.
@susanwildermuth9222
@susanwildermuth9222 19 күн бұрын
@@Xubonohow do you brown meat?
@vorbach1
@vorbach1 Жыл бұрын
MTB is a technique I developed years ago to lower the calories in my onion soup. Like STB, MTB (Microwave To Brown) requires less oil to cook the onions. MTB requires less attention than STB because you can’t burn anything in the microwave. Using a work bowl with a lid in the microwave is easier, and you can reserve the vegetable juice as an ingredient or to deglaze the pan later on. I generally use the microwave anytime one would sweat vegetables in traditional cooking. While some attenuation and stirring are needed for even cooking, it’s faster, easier, and more fool proof than a traditional sweat.
@georgebernard2002
@georgebernard2002 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, whats the timing you generally use before finishing in the pan? Probably undercook in the microwave to finish on high heat with light oil in a pan?
@unconventionalideas5683
@unconventionalideas5683 3 ай бұрын
That is really smart.
@susanneanna2421
@susanneanna2421 Жыл бұрын
I have done it like this for ages. We have a national dish where you need huge amounts of caramelized onions and this is the fastest way to do it. Results do not depend on the pot or pan.
@rachelle1
@rachelle1 Жыл бұрын
I don't use Teflon so I'm glad to see your comment. I'll give it a try in my stainless steel pan. 😊
@serawasnever2902
@serawasnever2902 Жыл бұрын
Mmmm, what is that yummy sounding national dish of yours? Would dearly like to try it! 🖖
@ekinkeskinler
@ekinkeskinler Жыл бұрын
Could you please share that dish? And where are you from?
@Artix902
@Artix902 Жыл бұрын
@@serawasnever2902 French onion soup
@ejunsub
@ejunsub Жыл бұрын
you should have filed for a patent
@Michael-lp8wd
@Michael-lp8wd Жыл бұрын
Try it on eggplants. Few weeks ago I tried a similar method on eggplants (no lid). You need to add quite a lot of water, until they stop sucking it in. Then add the oil an brown them. Perfect caramelisation!
@lauraellen189
@lauraellen189 Жыл бұрын
Very good to know!
@Stan_sprinkle
@Stan_sprinkle Жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this more or less for 20 years. I never had started by steaming, but I’ve always added water to deglaze in the initial phases, which cooks the onions quicker at the same time and then makes the whole thing quicker
@Antaios632
@Antaios632 Жыл бұрын
I've always done it this way, too. I periodically add a bit of water to deglaze and steam rather than doing it all at once. When I do several pounds of onions at once for French onion soup, the water that comes out of the onions steams them, so by the time they dry out and start to brown, there's no need to add more water - but for smaller quantities, it really helps to get them to brown evenly.
@Stan_sprinkle
@Stan_sprinkle Жыл бұрын
@@Antaios632 agree. It browns much more evenly.
@doctaflo
@doctaflo Жыл бұрын
YES! another addition to the Helen Rennie caramelized onion playlist!
@domsusefulstuff
@domsusefulstuff Жыл бұрын
You're the first person I thought of when I saw the Test Kitchen video! I knew you'd take it to the next level and you did not disappoint. Thank you for all the hard work, testing and good advice!
@reveme
@reveme Жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m doing this in cast iron skillet and I can confirm that it’s a very good idea! It just speed up the first step, then when the water is gone you have to stay there and stir every two minutes or so… but it works! It’s perfect also in enameled cast iron casserole (I have a Staub)
@stevenwilson5556
@stevenwilson5556 9 ай бұрын
Utterly brilliant video! Bravo and thank you for rigorously testing this and commenting and giving us such great insight with actual physical testing across multiple vegetables and liquids and reporting the results!
@Javaman92
@Javaman92 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved your scientific mind, it's on full display here. Well done as usual.
@julieblair7472
@julieblair7472 Жыл бұрын
I discovered this cooking cabbage from one of your videos!! not trying to carmelize it, and started doing it to onions! I use a small amount of oil in a stainless skillet and do a few rounds of deglazing with a splash of water as they brown. It dissolves and coats the veg again. I usually finish with them pretty moist and jammy because I stir the cabbage or onions (sometimes celery!!!!) into a pot of rice as soon as it finishes. It stains the rice a nice bronze color and it is absolutely delicious. The timing is perfect too, done as soon as the rice is every time.
@spinningbackspin
@spinningbackspin Жыл бұрын
This is a great tutorial. I can't wait to try it. And, to think, I used to eat TV dinners years ago. Helen is such a good teacher. I like basalmic vinegar too.
@jonlul
@jonlul Жыл бұрын
I am not a professional. But kinda figured this method out on my own awhile ago. I’m actually happy to see it’s a method professionals embrace. 😁 I love your videos & ATK.
@fjordojustice
@fjordojustice 9 ай бұрын
I loved this video, super informative! Not just about the onions, either. I've tried this method a few times for mushrooms, and I found it great, but inconsistent. I think that was because of the different types of mushrooms I was using, so I'm really glad you talked about that.
@richhenry8004
@richhenry8004 Жыл бұрын
In both cases you need to cook the onions until they start to break down, it just speeds up the first part of the process because the water/steam cooks the entire surface area of the onion rather than depending on the bottom of the pan to do all the work. Seems like a pretty simple idea.
@reddogdude
@reddogdude Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that I discovered your channel! I love your vids and if I find myself in Boston with the time, I WILL do a class/lesson. Keep up the good work!
@peted3637
@peted3637 Жыл бұрын
Ja, I've done it this way for years. It started out as just a quicker way to 'sweat down' the onions in the steam, then remove the lid, and I noticed that the caramelising happened sooner.
@galejohnson8086
@galejohnson8086 Жыл бұрын
I have heard of a restaurant trick of browning bacon by first putting about 1/2 inch of water in the frying pan. After the water is cooked off, then the bacon browns
@dirtyketchup
@dirtyketchup Жыл бұрын
I love that you're talking about this, Helen! I have been trying to share thoughts on this for a while. Although I am very surprised to hear you say that the stainless steel method doesn't work for this, and you got bad sticking. I exclusively use stainless steel for the "STB" caramelized onions, and I get wonderfully dark and rich jammy onions. The secret is to use the moisture in the onions to deglaze the fond between browning sessions. Just by taking it off the heat for 60 seconds, the fond in the stainless softens and can be mixed back into the onions. Here, I'll paste what I posted on that Lan Lam video you mentioned, since it already explains what I mean: "Been doing the caramelized onions and sautéed mushrooms in a similar way for years, and people always tell me I'm crazy. But a couple of things here aren't entirely the best technique. There is no need to start in a cold pan. I know ATK has this obsession with suggesting things be started in a cold pan, but here, it honestly makes zero sense, especially for the mushrooms. Also, for the onions, if you start in a preheated pan, there really isn't much need to cover them with a lid. As the hot steam passes through the onions, they will begin to wilt just fine. Sure, covering them may speed up this process marginally, but not enough to justify cleaning another dish. Here are my methods: (CARAMELIZED ONIONS) Preheat the pan on medium heat (I prefer stainless steel). Slice enough onions to almost overflow the pan (a lid definitely shouldn't be able to close) and put them in a bowl. Add 3/4 cup water to the bowl as well. Just before adding the onions, crank up the heat to high and pour all of the onions/water into the pan, and a generous pinch of salt. It should steam violently and the onions should start to collapse within a minute. Add more water if it starts to get dry, but be careful, as the onions will also release their own moisture as they continue to wilt down. Once all the onions have released their moisture, lightly drizzle in your oil of choice (I like olive). The boiling water should sort of emulsify with the oil and spread it around. Careful not to add too much so the onions aren't overwhelmed with the oil once they've reduced down. Once the excess water is mostly gone, turn down the heat and proceed with the slower caramelization step. I like the routine of letting things caramelize and form a fond, then taking off the heat for a minute to let the internal moisture deglaze the pan, then stir and repeat, until the onions are really broken down and jammy. This is why I prefer stainless, because it promotes more overall browning not just on the onions, but also in the pan. If you use non-stick, you might end up with a bit of a sweeter result, but still yummy. I also like to perfume the dish with some whole thyme sprigs, and finish it with some balsamic and pomegranate molasses." Anyway Helen, I just wanted to share because I was surprised to hear you say that STB doesn't work with stainless. I love using STB for certain things, and I almost exclusively cook with stainless. Thoughts?
@michaeldeyoung570
@michaeldeyoung570 Жыл бұрын
Check out Chef Jean Pierre's method of caramelizing onions. It's a completely different approach. He makes large quantities and ends up with a lot of onion juice that he uses for soup broth etc.
@grantritchey7509
@grantritchey7509 28 күн бұрын
For about 3-4 years I've used the TSB method in a stainlss steel pan and not had the sticking problem you described. 1. I cover and let steem for roughly 2-3 minutes ( water and salt only at this point). 2. Uncover when water has been boiling for a bit and onions are well wilted. Now add the oil when pan is almost dry. Quickly stir to coat. I think that's the only deviation I noticed. Note: I don't think it is worth while to do this unless you do a BIG batch! Helen Thank you, you are a delight!
@elenasimon1270
@elenasimon1270 Жыл бұрын
I steam in the pressure cooker then caramelize in a nonstick skillet.
@mikeb6389
@mikeb6389 Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@loren360
@loren360 Жыл бұрын
I use a version of STB on my frozen cruciferous veggies. I do the steam step in the microwave, then drain and toss them into a nice hot pan for browning. Thanks for the ideas on how to expand this technique!!
@sweetpeas8206
@sweetpeas8206 Жыл бұрын
I have done this for years. We caramelize them to go on top of cheeseburgers fresh off the grill. Delicious!
@dennisd5776
@dennisd5776 Жыл бұрын
This is an old line cook trick that I learned 20 year ago from Chef Michael Smith. You do not cover the pan. After adding onions to the hot pan you then add some water, not cover the pan/pot. Let the water boil away. You can caramelized onions in a steal pan/pot without losing any of the caramelization on the onions when you remove them.
@wolfetom10
@wolfetom10 Жыл бұрын
Works for potatoes too. I use this method, though with much less water, to make home fries for breakfast.
@aname4me
@aname4me Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired Engineer.... you are speaking my language... THANKS
@Ottawajames
@Ottawajames Жыл бұрын
I just saw a tip for this STB method in a stainless steel: deglaze with a splash of water or white wine, scrape up the brown and keep everything constantly moving until the liquid evaporates. All the fond gets back into the onions this way. I haven't tried it yet myself, but it seems to work in the video I saw.
@kelleyforeman
@kelleyforeman Жыл бұрын
I have tried it and I love this method! It’s made French onion soup so much faster!
@Shinryuken15
@Shinryuken15 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel.. I'm so impressed with how articulate you are and how smoothly you speak. Its like you're reading from a professional article or book! But even better in my opinion.
@vaazig
@vaazig Жыл бұрын
Great method that can be done even faster by cranking up the heat initially.
@TheArcSet
@TheArcSet Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I've actually done something like this for a long time, cooking onions with a lid on at the start, especially if I add some before I've finished all my chopping. I didn't know about the exposed sugars and proteins, but I figured that the rupturing was letting the water out more quickly. Thanks for this.
@seriouslyreally5413
@seriouslyreally5413 Жыл бұрын
One of the most informative cooking lessons I've come across in a long time! I saw Lan Lam's video but this was far more useful. There are sentinal lessons that you come across that take your everyday up to a new level of skill and this is definitely one of them! Because your lesson explored the whys and hows and how this technique can be broaden to other foods it is a far more valuable lesson than the original topic about onions.👍thank you fo your curiosity in experimenting with other foods, skillets and kitchen applications! I put this on the level of parbaking pie crust to get the perfectly browned, light and flaky, no-soggy bottom pumpkin pie crust to the use of baking soda in all kinds of other cooking applications not involving baking😅
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now Жыл бұрын
I use this method with french cut green beans. I love them browned in olive oil and butter after the water has cooked off...done just before they are burnt
@TheChaseCamp
@TheChaseCamp Жыл бұрын
Reminder not to use enamel over highest heat - even for preheating or searing! Cracked my dutch oven browning cabbage
@revoakes8984
@revoakes8984 Жыл бұрын
STB works great with bacon too! Almost all the caveats you demonstrate apply to bacon as well.. type of skillet, etc. The biggest method difference is that the water should start by covering the bacon. Second difference is that much less stirring is needed, just helping the strips stay separated is about all, until dry, then quickly brown on each side (a flattening weight works well for that too), drain … et voila! Lovely, tender-crisp, almost totally non-fat bacon with excellent aroma and flavor, with a bonus of lovely bacon grease left in the pan. Medium heat works best.
@TheSimArchitect
@TheSimArchitect Жыл бұрын
So... Microwaving your onions beforehand would be even faster! I wonder if we can brown and soften them even faster using a microwave with a browner and perhaps even without oil... 🤔
@paulgdlmx
@paulgdlmx 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic -- I used a flat bottom pot and not a lid and it was miraculous. Best ever.
@vMixMasterJayv
@vMixMasterJayv Жыл бұрын
I have a follow up video idea for this that might be worth testing. I often pre cook my onions in the microwave before caramilising in the pan which results in very quick caramilised onions for my my Aussie Snags. To one large onion I use a 50/50 ratio of butter and olive oil at around 3-4 tablespoons of fat. My goal when doing this is to coat the onions in a thin film of fat and when the butter is room temp it works nicely. So I first add the butter and coat every slice of onion with a thin film of butter but just tossing them with my fingers then i repeat with oil. I use a combination of Salted butter and oil as I find this creates a nicely seasoned buttery flavour without being to strong compared to if you were to use only butter. I then putting the coated onions into the microwave to cook down for roughly 5 minutes or until semi soft but still retain their crunch. Then i brown them in a pan for 5-10 minutes at the most and endup with some very silky, buttery sweet onions that art great on a snag or burgers etc. The Reason i use the microwave for cooking onions and other vegtables is becuase microwave frequency targets the water molecule almost directly and bipassing the indirect energy transfer between the other plants cell structures that take more time to heat up. It very quickly breaks down the plant cells as the water inside them heats up from the inside causing them toy burst and letting out the water as steam that can then also acts to help steam the rest of the veggies. Ive tried this using onions, Broccali, and cabbage and the more solid mushrooms with great results. I have also tried it on Carrots and Celery with inconclusive results and dont do this with delecate mushrooms. Carrots seemed to take the same time or longer then steaming and boiling so i think the water content really matters for this method to work well. The more water in the plant i guess the better and faster this method works. I have only semi tested these methods while i've cooked my meals for meal prepping but never done proper measured side by side testing to know for sure if this is faster so i'd be very curious to see a video testing this method. Thanks for all of the amazing videos ive learns so many great tips watching your videos that keeps me in the kitchen longer then it probably should XD
@kettlebelle290
@kettlebelle290 Жыл бұрын
My first thought was try microwaving them first! Glad to hear you have success with this method.
@marksando3082
@marksando3082 4 ай бұрын
I remember before I saw Lan Lam's video, I saw Lucas Sin's video about cooking mushrooms in water before browning them. It's a great technique! You also need less oil to brown the mushrooms since they're already pretty plump with water and don't absorb so much oil.
@DasHemdchen
@DasHemdchen Жыл бұрын
Very intelligent and thoughtfully balanced cooking tips!
@jonathantr4932
@jonathantr4932 Жыл бұрын
STB is how I also make new potatoes, cut in half with flat side down for browning. ATK taught me this one. Potatoes, butter, water, salt in and lovely potatoes out!
@thighmaster5791
@thighmaster5791 Жыл бұрын
Reginn, Thórr, and Elimine currently. Seiðr and Heiðr I am slowly warming up to though.
@Un1234l
@Un1234l 5 күн бұрын
​@@thighmaster5791 Is this some Fire Emblem Heroes talk or something? Or some other Norse mythology related talk?
@thighmaster5791
@thighmaster5791 4 күн бұрын
@@Un1234l Yeah. My comment was related to Fire Emblem Heroes but it seems at that time I was also watching a cooking related video and a FEH summoning video at the same time and commented on the wrong video. Apologies. 😅
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon Жыл бұрын
I've started using STB for broccoli, with some of the best results of my life. But I definitely don't have a lot of confidence in my Teflon coatings-I've always found nonstick pans to be an alliance of necessity rather than affection. They seem to give about three really good cookings before they go to pot. Thanks for the heads-up on wine-steamed cabbage; can't wait to try it!
@andersonomo597
@andersonomo597 Жыл бұрын
Yep, nonstick pans are a waste of money! I use stainless steel and regularly give them a polish with metal polish, and always heat the pan before adding oil and nothing sticks!!
@mrkattm
@mrkattm Жыл бұрын
I saw that American test kitchen video and I must say that I was surprised that this technique was not known, where I grew up in Michaigan that was the standard way you caramelized onions for French onion soup.
@toddellner5283
@toddellner5283 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. This has been my preferred method of caramelizing onions since I first heard about it from ATK. The other ingredient is baking soda which I first learned from food scientist Herve This as the anionic character of the soda helps the onions brown faster, lose their water more readily, and if memory serves softens cell wall earlier.
@leah3084
@leah3084 Жыл бұрын
I used my cast iron skillet and stirred the onions with a flat metal spatula. That way I kept on scraping the bottom of the pan from any piece that might have gotten stuck. When the onions started to brown, I added chunks of chicken and cooked till done. Was delicious on a bed of mushed potatoes. We loved it, thank you.
@sahej6939
@sahej6939 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I love doing water sautee! I rarely oil sautee any veggies anymore… it’s been a thing in weight loss communities for awhile! I use oil for mushrooms b/c I like them dark
@lypanov
@lypanov Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Doing this now for dietary reasons. No oil required as long as you've got a high quality non stick pan.
@kirill2525
@kirill2525 Жыл бұрын
for mushrooms the strurdy ones as you mentiond i like to boil them eaven and i use thin slises like onions. they end up making their own sauce in a way and its really good. also instead of salt, often times i add soy sauce for a more ssavory and umami flavor that is just so satasfying for me
@Bkellyusa
@Bkellyusa Жыл бұрын
I am not positive about this but I am pretty sure Kenji came up with this idea. I even cook bacon and pork chops using this method. Doing so creates a better surface contact and bacon actually stayes flatter and cooks more evenly. Love your channel. I am just seeing it after years of following at least 6 channels and always looking for more. Much continued success.
@alehut
@alehut Жыл бұрын
In the food lab, p 225, Kenji recommends adding small amounts of water while caramelizing at higher temps to deglaze the pan regularly. I haven’t seen the outright steaming approach before, personally
@jgarretson51
@jgarretson51 Жыл бұрын
With respect to fading Teflon skillets: I was resigned to replacing mine, so I tried a small dash of Barkeeper's Friend in my clean pan and rubbed gently with a damp paper towel. The towel came away with much brown residue and the pan is better now. I'll have to replace it eventually, but for now it has a new lease on life.
@namphuongnguyen8569
@namphuongnguyen8569 Жыл бұрын
The timing of this video couldn’t have been more perfect. Three days ago I found out that onions caramelizes much faster in the presence of water or steam while I was frying off some onions in the rice cooker. The next day this video showed up in my algorithm!
@appadmin2544
@appadmin2544 Жыл бұрын
My Cajun grandmother used this method for many foods, especially when cooking "daube", which is a braised round steak cooked with onions, and she ALWAYS used a cast iron skillet.
@uniotter2662
@uniotter2662 Жыл бұрын
I had seen Lan's method and wondered at the time what you would make of it. And here you took it to the next level by explaining it to the nth degree and applying it in many other situations, thank you! I use non-stick pans a lot and would hate for it to be true that it shortens their lifespan, so I might use the tip that many of your readers mentioned in the comments of employing my microwave for the steam/sweat stage. I've used wine when cooking cabbage, but hadn't noticed the difference in texture when using water (meaning it probably happened, but I didn't put the two together), so thank you for that tip! Your scientifically oriented nature combined with generous sharing of cooking techniques always makes for an extremely valuable video for anyone interested in improving their cooking skills! 🥰
@melaneymattson3733
@melaneymattson3733 Жыл бұрын
Great tips!! Going to use this method for sure. Will let you know how my pans hold up, Melaney from SoCal.
@BatPotatoes
@BatPotatoes Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video. At the time I tried applying Lan's technique to your caramelized cabbage recipe but it ended up just extending the cook time by a fair bit since the extra liquid needed time to cook off. Then I realized your original recipe still used the stb principle since it starts covered with a lid
@aaronkochar35
@aaronkochar35 Жыл бұрын
Having seen Lam's technique and being a devotee to ATK, my first thought was that this was going to be a rip off of that with nothing added in some effort to garner clicks and ad money. WOW, was I totally off the mark! Your insights and practice added sooooo much more (not to dig on ATK, you chose to use more time which allowed a much deeper look). I loved the video and am glad I was cooking while listening, otherwise, I may have switched to something else based in my initial assumption. I'm a subscriber now, thanx!
@davidalan912
@davidalan912 Жыл бұрын
WonderfulI video! I was looking forward to seeing this, as you know I’ve tried this method and have had great success, looking forward to using it on the other veggies as well! Always inspired by you!
@helenrennie
@helenrennie Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing this idea to my attention. I am inspired by you too!
@Kevin-rk4qu
@Kevin-rk4qu Жыл бұрын
Been doing that for years, definitely helps as you can just walk away from it for a while
@koalasez1200
@koalasez1200 3 ай бұрын
Great technique and ATK has awesome processes; I use a lot of their recipes. I dumped my teflon a few years ago and I don’t mind the extra time needed w/stainless steel. Thank you for the comparisons! 😊
@johannebeerbaum1546
@johannebeerbaum1546 Жыл бұрын
I have be “steam sautéing” for some time, while I did not add water, I did salt and add a bit of sugar and cover to start the process….who knew!
@jkbrown5496
@jkbrown5496 Жыл бұрын
After seeing the ATK video and learning of steamed burgers in CT, I've been experimenting with steam, but very little water. I've found great use in defrosting and cooking a burger thick 10-16 oz patty of ground beef I keep in the freezer as well as an off the shelf frozen (19 oz) pack of brats. Just put in the pan with 1/2 oz (1Tbs) of water, salt and season the ground beef, then on high with cover on, go till you hear good steam production, then turn off the eye (resistance element glass top) and let it steam and cool. Water from the meat keep it from running dry. After 6 min the ground beef is about 60F, I often flip, then get the steam back up and turn off the heat again. After about 16 min total the meat is 160 F internal. I now, remove the meat, boil off the water and dip the grease, to let the dripping caramelize. I use to brown the meat in the hot pan but now I put the meat back in and brown the surface with a butane torch. Deglaze and off I go. The torch can be useful to speed browning of meat. The brat I sometimes cut up and put back in the pan with butter to brown up. I use the butane torch over the top to dry the pieces so they are ready to brown when flipped. Key to browning is getting the surface moisture off otherwise the temp on the food surface can't go above 212 F. This method is low attention and is a great way to defrost frozen foods. Also, in a crisis, it is low fuel. I should add, a little free (not in/on the food) water that will go to steam early is a good way to get the outside of all the food to 212 F fast. Then the steam will stop condensing on the food and dissipate when you remove the lid and you go right to higher heat browning/cooking.
@Imelldarisky
@Imelldarisky 10 ай бұрын
I loved when you present another example of that method ♥️♥️♥️
@MarkusMahlberg
@MarkusMahlberg Жыл бұрын
I am a bit confused - STB works great for me with a seasoned stainless steel pan (method used for seasoning: several thin coats of oil heated up till smoking point, let cool down, repeat another 2-3 times). Thank you however for the other tests: I will definitely use STB for button mushrooms from now on.
@desertflow3r
@desertflow3r Жыл бұрын
Crazy that I use this method to cook link sausage and never thought of applying it to onions or mushrooms but I will now. Thanks.
@zadekeys2194
@zadekeys2194 10 ай бұрын
17 minutes is a LONG time to simple see how to do this. A pinned summary of how to cook this would be great. Thank you for your content!
@stantheman5163
@stantheman5163 Жыл бұрын
What a huge service to the cooking community. Thank you!
@MisterJeffy
@MisterJeffy Жыл бұрын
Similar technique: hotdogs on the grill are summertime favorite. I use high quality, locally made, grass-fed beef hotdogs. Steaming/boiling the dogs before grilling them keeps them moist and flavorful inside, and they brown quickly.
@robine916
@robine916 Жыл бұрын
Oooh nice tip!💕
@Yzyxdolorza
@Yzyxdolorza 9 ай бұрын
There’s an old viral recipe for sweet potato beet hashbrowns made just this way. You probably don’t need even that much oil because one other thing is that the oil distributes across the skillet in the steam. When you uncover the pan to evaporate the water and brown everything is already evenly cooked and evenly coated with oil, so only browning is necessary.
@billmiller9145
@billmiller9145 Жыл бұрын
I've recently noticed this. I've tried the oil only method and adding in some moisture or covering with a lid. It works!
@I0NE007
@I0NE007 Жыл бұрын
My go-to process for caramel onion jam (where the onions are cooked so much they truly fall apart into a jam) is =mincing/dicing the onions, using a tablespoon of water plus about a half teaspoon of Baking Soda per Onion (never really measured, just tossed in as desired). All done in a moderately seasoned cast iron pan. There is minimal impact to taste but dramatically increases the completion time without the Baking Soda.
@yuu-kun3461
@yuu-kun3461 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for somebody to mention baking soda in the comments!
@agn855
@agn855 9 ай бұрын
With what's that jam served together? Will you freeze it for a longer storage time??
@I0NE007
@I0NE007 9 ай бұрын
@@agn855 I just spread it on toasted rye bread (white, black, marble). I put it in the fridge to help it last longer. I don't know the limit, it's always eaten within about 2 weeks.
@bexxISM
@bexxISM 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos. I've been doing this for decades. My sister's used to be aghast but my results spoke for themselves. I do it with a lot of veggies. THOUGH I do use my CAST IRION. I have one pan that I only wipe clean vs my virtually non stick one. I start at HIGH HEAT until water is gone then add additional Olive Oil ( or avacado) then turn to low. I'm done in 15-17 min for onions.
@catherinamurphy7007
@catherinamurphy7007 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing all the experiments for us.
@notesfromleisa-land
@notesfromleisa-land Жыл бұрын
I can see how this speeds things along...I have been microwaving mine first to soften them then caramelize them on the stove. I have also seen a method of adding a pinch of baking soda that softens them faster.
@mmmmmmolly
@mmmmmmolly Жыл бұрын
This is how I've always done it, I didn't know it wasn't something usual :))
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 Жыл бұрын
My biggest kitchen helper for side vegetable dishes is the air fryer. Tho I do like the cabbage and wine idea.
@thapelo351
@thapelo351 Жыл бұрын
For most veggies I use a stainless-steel saucepot with a stainless-steel steamer pot then brown with my rounded sauté pan. Great texture every time. I'm going to stick with the old method with onions since I usually caramelize them while cooking rice in an instant pot. Love your short hair
@ABlueDahlia
@ABlueDahlia 6 ай бұрын
My family has cooked summer squash this way for years, but we just called it stewed squash. :) STB. Yes, it's mushy, but I adore it.
@beethovenjunkie
@beethovenjunkie 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely love cooking frozen green beans this way, they turn kind of crispy, almost like chips.
@HyperactiveNeuron
@HyperactiveNeuron Жыл бұрын
I did see this and completely forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me! 😊 This is like cooking bacon in a thin layer of water. It steams and provides it's own fat to fry in.
@magazineman3910
@magazineman3910 Жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE BEST HELEN. YES, I AGREE WITH YOUR STB THEORY. MY GRANDMOTHER TAUGHT IT TO ME MANY YEARS AGO. 😊
@karlbrooks7591
@karlbrooks7591 9 ай бұрын
Dude I thought of this the other day and it worked so well so many times that I figured there’s no way I’m the first one who came up with it, hence my presence
@ericabigelow8275
@ericabigelow8275 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video - and will try your method for onions, which I had stopped making as they were so time consuming. However, I have been doing what I've called "pan roasted" veggies for years. I pretty much cook all my broccoli this way - and asparagus - which you haven't had success with, I gather, but here's my method for each. For broccoli, chop into florets, heat my non-stick pan for a minute or two, then add about 1/2 tbsp olive oil, 3-4 tablespoons of water, the broccoli, and salt. cover and let steam/cook for 3-4 minutes, till the water is about gone. Open the pan, flip over the broccoli [I do this in bunches, not a single piece at a time - too much work], then add another tablespoon or 2 of water, and cover. The steam will help cook the broccoli some more, and the rest of the broccoli will get some browning. You can make this crispy, or softer. Swish your broccoli around in the fond to get any remaining off the pan and onto the food and serve. Asparagus: Rinse your stalks and then break off the tough ends. Heat your non-stick pan, then you can add 1/2 tbps olive oil, and 1/2 tbsp of butter. When the butter is melted, swirl and then lay your asparagus into the pan, add salt and cover (I only use as much asparagus as can fit in a single layer) - on medium high heat. After 2 minutes, add a few tablespoons water, and cover again - most of the water will evaporate in a minute or so. Open the lid, turn your asparagus over to brown the other side, and if the pan is really dry, add a bit more water. Cover and let that water evaporate, and let the asparagus brown in the butter/oil mixture. Your asparagus will be done - max, in 7 minutes - 3 1/2 minutes a side.
@MultiBigbird01
@MultiBigbird01 Жыл бұрын
I've always used this method just as my mother did. When making pulao rice dish, it requires the onions to be a very dark brown, so adding water at first to the onions to get them soft first speeds up the browning process.
@bellstewart5687
@bellstewart5687 11 ай бұрын
Replacing my handy pan. I have learned the value of the saying, "penny saved-pound foolish " here. Thank you 😊. Lady Bell
@davideggleton5566
@davideggleton5566 Жыл бұрын
Great video and exploration of STB. Also excellent information about what works, what doesn't -- and the why of it all. Thanks!
@tridsonline
@tridsonline Жыл бұрын
👍🏻 Thanks Helen! Fascinating as always, and thanks for the in depth investigations into other veges too. As for onions though, my method just can't be beaten. It's practically instantaneous! For all my cooking purposes, i use dehydrated onions, reserving the fresh variety for salads and sandwiches only. So for caramelised onions (especially for breyani), i toast a few handfuls of dried onions, stirring constantly with a silicone spatula. On my induction top, and in a stainless steel pot, it takes less than a minute to get to the point where i begin to think I've gone too far. Then I add a cup of two of water, some salt, and a splash of oil .. and you'd never tell the difference. Except for the time. And the cost - since i started cooking with dehydrated onions, there's less wastage (no wastage), storage and usage is a breeze, and they're cheaper than fresh! But I'm looking forward to trying your STB method on cabbage and Brussels sprouts. Tx again 👍🏻
@seano1642
@seano1642 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Celery! Made some slightly caramelized onions with celery and it came out good! The celery still had some crunch!!(I cooked the celery in with the onions!🤯! I use it to put eggs into!! Prepare eggs(beat) put into big spoonful of hot cooking onions and celery and scramble in! It was GREAT! I never would of thought!💪🏻 Your broccoli looked great, I'll do it with bacon and put some lemon juice in it!! Thanks Helen for showing us the results of all your hard work! I drink a lot of uncooked eggnog! Six or seven eggs, one cup of milk, spices and into my new Ninja blender! Wa La! And its already cold(eggs and milk straight from fridge) I don't worry about Salmonella! Should I ?😈😎✌🏻 I use frying pans called Gotham Steel! They're great, NOTHING STICKS and they clean super easy! They aren't Teflon though, I don't know what they are but nothing sticks!✌🏻
@ChrisFelt
@ChrisFelt Жыл бұрын
Helen Rennie is the best. Always presenting great advice in an accessible format,; with good advice and professionally produced videos. Thanks!
@_mokosh_
@_mokosh_ 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree about the non stick pan wearing off much faster! It happened to my stainless steel tefal pan with non stick coating. It became rough and lost its properties. So i need a new pan. Im experimenting now with replacing the first steaming step in microwave and it works great with cabbage, all types, Brussel sprouts are the best from microwave
@perrywilliams5407
@perrywilliams5407 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I like or green veggies crunchy, so STB would not do for us, except cabbage. I never thought about caramelizing cabbage, but your white wine tip is genius and will make caramelized cabbage the star of our veggie dumplings or eggrolls. Thanks so much for the info!
@dezmodium
@dezmodium Жыл бұрын
Since seeing her video I've used this method a number of times. It does work. No magic required, all cooking science. Also helps saute some other things a little faster like peppers, too, but onions is the most noticeable difference in speed.
@trillianmcmillian2660
@trillianmcmillian2660 Жыл бұрын
so informative as usual! thank you i love firm cabbage and now i know why it is hit and miss when i do it!
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