Hell Let Loose - Trying Out The Firefly Tank (Update 14)

[@bearsjunky23hof88]

You were my nemesis earlier today. For some odd reason, I felt less frustrated at the end of the game knowing it was you who blew me up 3 or 4 times.😅

[@tilda140]

A privilege!

[@siLence-84]

An amateur..?

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

I’m sorry!

[@josephsnyder7212]

Really hope someday they'll replace the sherman and cromwell with crusader and churchill in the Africa maps.

[@BBandCFProductions]

Agreed. Churchills Mk III were used heavily in El Alamein

[@Napswhilewatchin]

According T17, they will™.

[@troygriesenbeck6138]

The churchhill and Cromwell could never engage a tiger frontally so considering it’s a video game it’s best to have the firefly for balance reasons

[@Peter_Aranyos_Jr]

@@troygriesenbeck6138 I completely agree with you. The Tiger would run wild without there being a Firefly on the battlefield.

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

No idea how the Churchill didn’t make it in

[@charles_wipman]

Great shooting, specially that kil at 10" behind the hill, that was amazing; booth new maps seem very good for tanking.

[@Pelasomma]

"this is gonna be a tough shot" one taps it, that's my boy

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

Hell yeah

[@Murasame13]

10:20 EPIC! (Btw the range lines on the left and right are accurate for shells/MG respectively) [at least, for shooting directly at a target, not really accurate for shooting over a hill at something you can't even see lmao]

[@Go3Gaming]

Can't wait to play! The gun sight looks kinda cute

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

Does look kinda nice

[@davidvikernes6901]

They really, really need to fix the sights for the British weapons Puts the faction at a massive disadvantage

[@SmokinLoon5150]

Can you further explain?

[@jon8727]

Plus the Bren gun is almost unusable with how bad the recoil is and not being able to deploy the bipod.

[@SmokinLoon5150]

@jon8727 the Bten, BAR, and DP27 should all have their bipods be deployable while in MG class. In the automatic rifleman class sure, remove it. The devs really missed it with this update.

[@jon8727]

@@SmokinLoon5150 I agree

[@nickmccarthy4790]

The guns feel like they shoot a slight to the left

[@mr.joshua657]

Beautiful map.

[@Faustinho]

Couldn't play with the Firefly yet, but had 2 or 3 really good matches with the Brit Light. So far, all good with the Brits!

[@Pandacous]

That was a hell of a shot

[@ThisIsSparta300]

New update is sooooo dope on ps5, feels generally better in every way as far as running and movement goes.

[@MadAtMax.300Blackout]

Cool. Another pc game saying fuck you to the actual consumers to cater to kids on Xbox. Fun.

[@colton2680]

Oh yeah. Love the new update. Only complaint is Alamein is a little stuttery. I’m sure they’ll fix it. Love driel as well.

[@jarednealeigh1553]

Agreed I have a copy on PC and PS5. PS5 gameplay feels more fluid than my PC now ( I have a GTX 1060 though..)

[@micahroberts3564]

Love the added speed to the running. Really pulls me into a sim immersion watching a MG gunner zig zag up a mountain top going 10mph on foot. Eff sakes. Battlefield anyone

[@Pandacous]

Just looked the tank up the firefly was made in 43 and started really seeing action in 44 weird choice for these 2 maps

[@micahroberts3564]

Well nobody would play if it www historically accurate. German tigers and panthers would just sit up on a hill and pound British faction into dust all day long. Have to sacrifice balance with accuracy. The British tanks cost to much. The firefly should cost half what a tiger costs in fuel munitions

[@Vestner262]

They got the dates wrong on the maps. The first and second battles of El Alamein were fought in 1942. Driel was a village in the Battle of Arnhem, which took place in 1944. In the game it says 1942. I think they swapped the dates on the two maps by accident.

[@dean8525]

Its because the tank has the same mechanics as the Sherman, so they could push it out without any real effort. Creating and designing the Churchill woulda been too much work forthem.

[@amostach]

After the first couple of minutes, the audio and video drift apart by about 25 seconds. Pls fix :)

[@Oddball_E8]

"Panzer 4 can pen the turret on this thing?" Umm yeah... a Firefly is still just a Sherman, my dude :P

[@elkrumb9159]

Yeah but this game isn’t realistic like that considering a Panzer 4 can’t pen the lower front plate of an IS-1 or turret lol

[@Yu19940318]

It feels suck as Firefly driver when some infantry just pops up and you can do nothing.

[@_fruitnveg]

Feels suck to drive too. Awful tank.

[@TheStacato]

@@_fruitnveg First game with it last night my squad and I got 40 kills and destroyed every single one piece of German armour that came against us with the godlike 17-pounder. I'm a fan.

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

Driving the firefly is not fun

[@bertvsrob]

do you get points for repairing whilst your crew is mopping up yet? i used to lose so many doing that as driver

[@swampybman7741]

Lots excitement! Your thoughts on this map? As infantry there is no place to hide and no place to run to without dying along the way. Three thumbs up! (chuckle)

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

I like the map!

[@kukenballenvegavalle]

The firefly is classed as a medium tank I'm pretty sure. How come they didn't introduce the Churchill IV as the heavy tank, anyone know?

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

Not sure. I’m wondering that too

[@zeyutan4677]

If they really introduced Churchill, it would only have a 6 pounder, which makes it another jumbo 75. Do you really want that? :)

[@phrikaphrak40k]

Virgin: muh british tank is bad Chad: new british tank has a cool name for its chassis and gun.

[@arthurburson5580]

I know the update just dropped but I was wondering if the 75mm gun on the british medium has the same hold over as the us medium sherman? Also any bullet drop info on the firefly? Thanks in advance and keep making the content brother!

[@Ahaighter2]

the gunner scope shows you distance adjustments

[@VitaminAuke]

Tanks are maybe the only part I legitimately enjoy in this update. Weapons are horrible, worse than the Russians if you ask me. Also the lag on unoptimised maps are making it even worse.

[@nq8296]

maybe your pc is garbage or your internet.. lol

[@MadAtMax.300Blackout]

​@@nq8296 mine isn't and el runs like it has tourettes on offensive mode.

[@colton2680]

@@MadAtMax.300Blackout yeah El is def a bit stuttery. It would be my fav map if it wasn’t but Driel is my fav now. It’s perfect.

[@DzonsonJohnson]

​@@nq8296maybe check something before u make clown of yourself

[@johnathanschwab596]

Its weird seeing panthers and fireflies duking it out a few years before they ever entered service 😅. Would love to see era accurate vehicles for the maps, though it'd probably be a headache for the dev team

[@ognscully5331]

Would be nice if they could get everything right like weapons tanks and uniform all wrong at moment

[@fraserihle4847]

Yeah or like, ya know....decent loadouts, weapons that make sense and work properly, uniform options. The whole thing is lazily done and needs work

[@nicolas6226]

Firefly for an El Alamein map ??? Seriously this Dev team really need to research ! After the huge mistakes on the Jumbo and the Tiger, now they are doing this to us... It's a shame !

[@siLence-84]

They didn't go for historical accuracy. Team i7 update will do that

[@micahroberts3564]

If we go full historical accuracy, the Germans would absolutely destroy every faction every time. They need to make the Firefly cost the commander 400 fuel, sherman 200, recon tanks should be 25

[@famalam943]

0:23 I don’t think you’re allowed to say that

[@lucasco031194]

Hey I would really like to hear your opinion on the Cromwell. So far I find it doesnt get stuck everywhere like the Panzer IV and the medium Sherman do and the low profile can be a great asset but I would like to hear from someone with more experience in tanks in HLL.

[@siLence-84]

Will let you know when I play. 300+ hours of tanking

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

I haven’t used it that much yet to be honest!

[@phrikaphrak40k]

I loved the Cromwell when using it. Got into a front to front fight with a tiger and won! Superior crew wins.

[@Murasame13]

@@phrikaphrak40k Lmfao that shouldn't even be close.

[@tharealchef2539]

Black Matter is trying their best to make the War Thunder fans cringe 😂

[@siLence-84]

My thoughts exactly lol

[@weaponenthusiast2623]

“They can pen the turret?” sir do you realize what tank you are in? 😂 But I forgive you since I believe in game it’s classed as a heavy tank instead of a medium/tank destroyer

[@PatchGaming22]

Thoughts on the British tanks? I was underwhelmed by the firefly (no driver MG on a heavy??), loved the Tetrarch though

[@SteveRood1]

Thats because the M4A4 VC Firefly was used as a Tank Destroyer, not a tank. when the tank was converted into a VC Firefly, the Hull bow machine gunner had to be removed to create more space for the larger .17lbs shells.

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

I still gotta play them a little more. All I know is that the firefly needs big changes

[@PatchGaming22]

@@SteveRood1 oh yeah, I mean the historical model doesn’t have an MG, so I get that’s why. But.. as far as playability, the only heavy being that vulnerable to infantry, AND having maneuverability on par with the IS-1, they took the Mg off the BA-10, I feel like they should’ve done something different. Churchill tank, or maybe make the firefly cheaper? Idk, it’s probably the weakest tank in the game for its cost and spot

[@jeremyrice9437]

Pc only or console as well

[@colton2680]

Both

[@siLence-84]

Console is scrubby af

[@chopper9778]

Honestly might be the worst heavy tank. Like the guns good, but the Armor and turn rate are garbage. Would rather be in an IS1, at least it has a bow gun. It just feels like its food for AT guns on El Alamein, and I guess its ok on Driel since its good at climbing, but still can get outplayed hard by P4's

[@กองเรือนจํามณฑลทหารบกที่31]

Too Overpowered Tank in game now just get one shot on tiger last night

[@kknice]

Tried it yesterday worst heavy tank, it's so damn slow and the turn rate ... even the russian IS is better. Oh yeah and no driver mg 😂 but i like the medium and light tanks from the british

[@rdb1673]

3:54

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

my dog Beans chewed straight threw an Ethernet cable! At some point YT editor will remove that clip and people will have no idea what we are talking about though.

[@MadAtMax.300Blackout]

​​@@TheFreshBakedGoods lmao lololol

[@N.Eismann]

The British Tanks are absolutely horrid. Low ammo, limited visibility (commander), almost no hull mgs, and worst of all: No mobility. Ah, and the Firefly is such a bad decision for the heavy.

[@MankDemes551]

This tank should fr be the reason they should add the ability to unbutton

[@siLence-84]

@@MankDemes551 unbutton?

[@MankDemes551]

@@siLence-84 yeah! Like let the commander (at least) stick his head through the hatch

[@wm6650]

Yeah unbutton the hatch for tank command. He should have a mounted mg on top instead of the driver mg. It would have been a neat experience and balance for no hull mg.

[@fromfilmtocode]

10:25

[@yolper123_3]

honestly an underwhelming heavy. It is not bad, but compared to the other nations heavies it really isn't that good

[@Ampage21s]

is this patch as bad as people say or are people just being cry babies? Im mostly only really concerned with servers and optimization shit though but all everyone talks about is no dessert unis and stuff...

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

Patch is good for the most part. Only some very minor performance stuff and I didn’t see any server issues today.

[@ThisIsSparta300]

It’s awesome ppl jus bitch. The running is flawless. Perfect. Makes the game 3x better

[@AgentOrange88785]

100% cry babies.

[@sarcasticommentator]

%100 cry babies, they are mad cause they made the game better since it’s more like battlefield now

[@colton2680]

@@sarcasticommentator the thing is it isn’t even like bf or cod. People just complain cause the run speed. It’s obvious the people who complain def haven’t played the newer cod or bf games, the run speed is nothing like it. It’s perfect now.

[@jamos5710]

British everything needs fixed

[@TheFreshBakedGoods]

It’s tough for them

[@phoenixxi9501]

Worst tank to drive :(

[@SteveRood1]

its not bad, you have to get used to the engine torque

[@phoenixxi9501]

@@SteveRood1 more concerned about the terrible turning and the lack of machine gun but staling easily isn't great either

[@themilkyounevergot8700]

⁠@@phoenixxi9501that’s because it’s designated as a Tank Destroyer. It moves slow because it’s got a massive 17pdr Anti-tank gun, it was so big that they had to put the gun in sideways. As for the drivers machine gun, that was removed to open up space for ammunition due to the sheer size of the shells. In combat they were always accompanied by other tanks to deal with infantry.

[@SteveRood1]

@Phoenix XI the M4A4 VC never had a Hull gun 🔫 it was removed to create more space inside the tank for the longer heavier 17 pounder Shells. The Firefly was used as a Tank destroyer with the most experienced crew available. I played Driel last night for the first time and nailed 2 Panthers from across the embankment, providing overwhelming overwatch for the guys crossing the Bridge.

[@phoenixxi9501]

no complaints about the gun or realism just the game play balance is terrible this thing is a sitting duck while the panther is one of the most nimble tanks in the game

[@ggorski2174]

They should of put the British Crusader tank in the desert 🏜 campaign!!! 🙄 😒 😑

[@Iansanonce-lp4nx]

This update is a disgrace...cant even give British weapons they a actually used...