Helldivers 2 | *NEW* Worst Stratagem RELEASE!!! - Gameplay Hardest Difficulty

[@SteveMorris-c2r]

My observations as to how the dog breath works. Its range is rather short, but once its starts firing it may stay inside that area for a few moments to apply gas. Once dog breath is done it will go on a cool down before firing again. The gas deals decent damage and crowd control but by itself is not going to stop huge hordes. All gas weapons need additional damage support. I hear people say why not just kill it instead of cc. The gas makes other options more efficient. Guns require less ammo to kill an enemy hit by gas due to the dot softening up harder targets. Gas deals damage straight to the targets main hp pool. It bypasses armor as well making it the only guard dog to not glance off armored foes. Because of the nature of its range, and function its best used to improve other close range crowd control options like shotguns and flame throwers. Long range weapons will see little use out of the dog breath as you will often be outside of its effective range. The problem your having is your using a long range precision weapon at short range and expecting the dog breath to carry you. The scythe has low armor pen meaning your doing severely reduced damage to most of those bugs and it does not have the dps, even with gas support, to deal with larger bugs. The Scythe takes advantage of its long range to deal with hordes. With out that range buffer you don't have enough time to make your shots count. In short your build is bad. The thick fog on the planet does not help either. Your using a long range weapon when your movements suggest typical shotgun user. Your free to use what ever you want. Its your time and channel, but the fault here is on you not the dog breath. You can't just wander into the hardest difficulty in a game make bad decisions then blame something else for your mistake with out looking silly. I highly recommend you give the dogs breath a few more goes with a more crowd control focused build before you make any huge sweeping judgments. And if you don't like it after that then thats fair. Not every stratagem is for everyone. Taking some time to consider build synergies can be the difference between dying constantly and a no death run.

[@ElBromoHojo]

Nice to hear it might pair well with shotguns. Those are my thing, and was hoping to swap the laser drone out for this one.

[@Psyko_Monk3y]

I noticed it was a problem of playstyle.

[@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1]

I agree but the gas doesn't "soften up targets", the damage over time is so low - it might not even exist in the first place. Full blasting the sterelizer combined with the gas effect has a DPS of around 50 when even the laser pistol has a dps of 150-200 I believe

[@theelmozusflame3015]

Oooooh yeah I kinda like that it acts like a GAURD GOD WOULD, lol. It swoops over and fights each of his enemies one by one then rushes to my side for THE BIGGEST GOODBOIS he can get.

[@robertoro4411]

krispy kreme is calling they want their glaze back. If a strategem is so restrictive that it must be paired with a handful of shotguns to not be completely useless then one must ask is the strategem worth the slot. There are at least 5 key changes to the dog breath that would make him a much better support backpack. Btw shouldn't the dog breath specially help guns like the lasers to alleviate from closed engagements? Like what is the point of having the only dog backpack with the shortest range and not protecting you well at closed range?

[@yanyanyan60]

2 reasons I find it difficult to use 1) It triggers only at "OH SHIT" range 2) It locks only 1 target, instead we want it to spray the green paint on as many targets as possible

[@Sorain1]

I would love a 'thermal regulation' armor passive that both negated extreme heat and extreme cold's downsides, while also letting weapons cool faster. Would absolutely shine in laser builds. Maybe give it 30% fire/ice resistance just for fun. Explain it as 'extreme environment space suit' tech or 'Reactor malignance gear' something.

[@Nadacalypse]

I really like the dog breath rover tbh, for its CC on groups, or to keep things off of you. I have seen the dog detour an alpha charging at you to detour it, and it has stopped stalkers in its path as well. I've found this paired with the torcher extremely fun, good DOT damage, and area crowd control. I like that this guard dog actually seeks out enemies and wish the laser and other drone would do this as well. The gas effects me less than the laser tries to kill me on the rover. I would rather take the dog breath rover over the sterilizer any day. I see all these comments talking about the damage, and taking other rovers over this. If you want damage then you take the other rovers, this rover is more so for crowd control, to help keep things off you, and for that it does its thing and in my testing works pretty well. The one thing I would change is maybe some more spread on its shots to spray a larger area but other than that, I find this a lot more fun than the laser dog hitting me and lighting me and my teammates on fire every 10 seconds.

[@Ereshkigal616]

i think to fix the dog breath, all they'd need to do is increase the engagement range abit for it. Seems like the enemies need to already be hugging you for it to get into it.

[@TheZombie567]

I never understood why teammates don't ping things

[@robertoro4411]

The massive glaze going in the comments is crazy. Can you run the dog breath and the steralizer and not be a complete L? Yes. Does it makes sense to used unless you're a masochist, are bored of all other guns? No, it does not. Just focusing on the dog breath a lone, they can make the following changes to make it more useful: 1. Make it so that it always targets the closest enemy. 2.Stop spraying when enemy is confused and switches target. 3. Either make the confusion effect more fast on the dog breath or the spread wider than the steralizer. 4. Have the dog carry a spare tank on the drone itself (can be a ship module upgrade) For gas weapons as a whole or gas: 1. make them have a lingering cloud, change the lingering time for each weapons, making the granades last the longest. 2. slight increase on DoT damage 3. Make them stop when confusion kicks after enemy cues an attack. The weapons don't feel right in the games after the update glow up a lot in the arsenal. They need to look at this because as of now it is neck and neck with polar patriots as the worst warbond. Although I love the intend of having support focused weapons

[@randomhero6365]

I really like the scythe lately. Pair it with the lazer dog too and you got double the beams that keeps everything on fire

[@H2XBD]

May as well rock the laser pistol and laser cannon for quad lasers. Orbital laser for a fifth lol

[@randomhero6365]

@H2XBD I tried but the Lazer cannon feels a little too slow. I usually grab the qusar cannon when I rock the scythe and impact nades

[@js-ib4bb]

Try the blitzer with the lazer dog also an amazing combo

[@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1]

​@@js-ib4bb Blitzer, Arc Thrower, Shield Gen. I am the Emperor. ⚡️

[@js-ib4bb]

@@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1 i was running the arc thrower with it but found problems dealing with the bigger bugs so swapped to nade launcher or quasar cannon absolutely nothing you cant deal with

[@itriyum]

Your loadout should have been cookout, grenade pistol, gas grenades, flamethrower, dog breath, orbital gas and eagle napalm, the gas really shines when paired with flamethrower or any flame weapon

[@robertoro4411]

using the cookout sounds great, you get to push and stagger already confused enemies. If only there was a dog backpack that kills things while you stagger 🤔

[@taglagable]

I would run the dog breath with an anti infantry support weapon. The dogs are not strong enough to stand on their own and I don’t think that was ever their intent. I would want something like the mg, stalwart, flamethrower, laser cannon or arc thrower to pair it with. Stun and confusion or massive damage mixed with area denial. I just can’t ever see it mixing well with an anti-heavy weapon.

[@ilovedemocracyy]

😂 I have seen dog breath go insane ranges just to hunt down a single shrieker.

[@ElBromoHojo]

I was looking forward to trying this new rover. I typically run with the laser one but... I don't know what changed, but it is insta-killing me all the time since the update. Before, I died from it twice, ever, in 200 hours, and only when already badly injured. I haven't changed my habits. Somehow it can kille at full health instantly now though.

[@sirtopnotch1738]

It's ability to light you on fire now is what changed. Just a slight tickle is enough to light you on fire and I've found the drone killing me multiple times per game after that. Either that or you've just been getting extremely unlucky with it headshotting you recently

[@ElBromoHojo]

Thanks, it must be the fire, since they said they dropped the headshot critical damage by 50%.

[@nespith]

My experience with it on super helldive. It does give you a good bit more survivability when you are running around through large swarms of bugs however end of the day I am going to lose a good 100-200 kills at the end of game for using this over laser dog so I will never use this unless for some reason I reallly need more survivability.

[@highbrow-stonebender]

Dog Breath Rover + Flamethrower. G'head, see what happens.

[@danieleproia]

dog breath, gas grenades and flamethrower is goat

[@manateewarrior1543]

This drone with the arc thrower is terminid genocide.

[@martinslvsten428]

i'm sorry, but if you think it's bad, it's a you problem, not a game problem. 150 armor you don't take damage from gas. Add the steriliser. You can literally run into mega nests and make all the bugs kill each other while being unharmed. It's utterly broken.

[@itriyum]

Well bugs don't really kill themselves, they MIGHT hit each other but it's not a guarantee that they will die. You can use dog breath, gas grenades and orbital gas to go into a nest untouched

[@oldman6916]

Dogs breath is just kinda bad, the sterilizer and gas grenades are pretty good but I think dogs breath guard dog just needs a buff

[@Huskerfanman-g9e]

​@@oldman6916 I think a range buff would be really good

[@oldman6916]

@Huskerfanman-g9e maybe it could do a sweeping motion with jts gun to hit multiple enemies at once as well.

[@BigDaddyOwenCook]

No I think it's a developer's problem because look it if we listen to people like you the game would be all the way down to 5000 players at its peak per day. But since we stopped listening to players like you saying that the game is all right. That people are complaining for nothing about how the weapons are very weak and they are wrong and the developers are right and how much of a boot licker you are The game would be dead within a couple of months. The game wouldn't survive very long if we listen to bad ideas that come from you people. The developers have a responsibilities to make sure that their game doesn't die and that means having all the weapons viable and usable and fun and enjoyable so players do not quit and go to another game or forget about this game completely. I'm glad the developers came to thier senses and decided that you people are not very smart and that you guys could be missing a couple of brain cells and that we cannot take your direction at all cuz it doesn't work. We already tried your way. And your way blows to be Frank. Nobody enjoyed your way and everybody left All I'm saying is you're dead wrong

[@davidrottstedt6481]

Your commentary is so great!

[@m4xfl4xst4r]

Gas good. Dog breath, meh.

[@TheZombie567]

Don't know what it is but seems like teammates will go out of their way to play solo just to die in a couple minutes, are you not supposed to play as a team in this game ?

[@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1]

@@TheZombie567 I do that. My survivability is higher than any random I've played with basically. And I play weapons that don't depend on Ammo. Let me go off in peace and I'll clear all side objectves and a prep for the main objective. You shouldn't *need* 4 people at all times. Of course, it can be nice to have backup - but one person should be able to peel off, if not then you're playing a difficulty just not suited to you. One person going solo that knows what they are doing is the difference between a 20 minute chill mission and a 40 minute, barely extracted, having shriekers and stalkers constantly pissing everyone off - mission. Not to mention I tend to bait out bug breaches so my teammates don't have them

[@KaliFortuna]

In some cases, a skilled player can split off solo to get a lot of work done, more than his presence with the other three would do. In practice, people are rarely as skilled as they think they are, leading the solo to cause breaches and problems and then die. Also, in random groups you often have multiple people who think they’re that guy, run off in random directions, and cause the match to become 4 solos running around spawning a million patrols in each other’s way.

[@ichewcrayons]

It’s just sad that your hellDIVER can’t DIVE or swim 🤷🏻‍♂️, imagine if you could dive and kill bugs underwater.

[@MrGoodAdvice35]

if gas slowed and blinded it would be alot better

[@LtYellowait]

Gas already blind ennemy.

[@tylerkauffman589]

It’s good for a blitzer / flamer / torcher.

[@lacrossehammy124]

1:52 holy fuck it chased it all the way into the sky thats sick

[@GalicHoHyabusa]

The steriliser weapon and stratagem are trash. It sprays a graphic and doesn’t slow, burn, fragment or damage the enemy. It needs extra work. It should be programmed to work as a combo with a weapon.

[@DonnDav]

Iv had the missions break twice now over the last weekend same way it did for you

[@onedeadcat]

It is not a bad weapon at all. It crowd controls very well and doesnt cause friendly fire damage if wearing at least medium armor (any type).

[@DonnDav]

The dog breath is terrible. Worst backpack you can bring in. Is worthless compared to rover

[@goeijmejisju1510]

worst backpack you can bring in is airburst backpack.

[@itriyum]

It's not worthless, if you pairnit with the flamethrower or the torcher it's really great, I've completed 8 and 9 with that combo

[@DonnDav]

@@itriyum if you want a gas fire combo it's better to bring the sterilizrr and rover. rover has 20m of range, quick kill and quick target changing without having to move. The player can apply gas in area efficiently tapping it better than the dogbreath

[@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1]

​@@DonnDavRover also lazers more teammates than enemies. I fucking hate it even if it's by far the best guard dog. If you're in my team and use the rover please for the love of god stay away, my survivability is so much higher when I just solo the bug breaches.. When randoms pick the Rover I always try to peel off to do side objectives but for whatever reason your average rover user feels the strong need to be glued to my fucking asscheeks

[@KaliFortuna]

Laser rover fans need to learn to stand to the right side of their team. The rover hangs out to their right, meaning it mostly lasers people on that side of the action. Won’t reduce friendly fire to 0, but it super helps.