HEMA | Swordfish 2016 - Open Longsword FINALS

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@joaosturza
@joaosturza 8 жыл бұрын
WITCHER MUSIC noice
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Not only the music is great, it also doesn't have strict copyright policy. Easiest way to say thank you to the author is to follow him on soundcloud: soundcloud.com/marcinprzybylowicz/sword-of-destiny
@gregortheoverlander4122
@gregortheoverlander4122 7 жыл бұрын
It's supposed to be pagan. In the world of The Witcher Christianity doesn't exist and there is power in mysticism. You should really read the books or play the games and tell me you still don't like the music.
@AceTaxiaGaming
@AceTaxiaGaming 7 жыл бұрын
it is not pagen as it is not religious, it is more inline with traditional music that the cultures the witcher is based off has
@michatomczyk6813
@michatomczyk6813 7 жыл бұрын
Pagan tradition is our tradition bro.
@Alejandro-te2nt
@Alejandro-te2nt 7 жыл бұрын
what is so great about the fucking witcher though? I haven't played it. or anything thats come out basically since they stopped making xbox360 games. so i can't say its bad. but it looks like the same spin-move throwing video game stuff you had in games like fable 2 (minus the throwing your sword in the air, spinning around before catching it and delivering a killing "flourish") what is with the overlap between HEMA and video games and between the less popular HEMA channels and the witcher specifically?
@ryand9841
@ryand9841 8 жыл бұрын
1:30 Sorry bud, Invincibility frames don't exist irl like they do in dark souls
@thrownswordpommel7393
@thrownswordpommel7393 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty decent use of the roll actually. Not something i'd use but still.
@lawka2699
@lawka2699 4 жыл бұрын
I believe this is called a, "portrayal of dominance"?
@sparkymularkey6970
@sparkymularkey6970 6 жыл бұрын
I've begun taking HEMA classes and it's so much fun to watch these matches and try to pick out things I've learned. It motivates me to keep training.
@jamricsloe
@jamricsloe 6 жыл бұрын
Hema should be in the Olympics!
@ivobreeschoten5442
@ivobreeschoten5442 5 жыл бұрын
Martial art from all cultures should
@TuathDeSìth
@TuathDeSìth 5 жыл бұрын
In the Olympics HEMA cease to be High Art.
@the_diplomat51
@the_diplomat51 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice but putting in the HEMA there endangers it to be oversimplified like Olympic Fencing and forsake its historical accuracy in martial arts.
@pavolverescak1712
@pavolverescak1712 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, most cool stuff would have to be banned and more sport oriented, just look at some of the rules these competitions already have
@latch9781
@latch9781 3 жыл бұрын
Not HEMA, but definately certain styles like the Longsword
@SchmokinJoe
@SchmokinJoe 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you implemented the slow motion (stops, replays in slo-mo, shows colored strike points, then picks up at normal speed). Very well done and much appreciated! The commentators need some work though (not that you have anything to do with that, just saying). They keep talking over each other and what not...
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, SchmokinJoe. Swordfish tournaments are getting better with time in my opinion, but sometimes things just happen I suppose. ;) There's always space for improvement, both for the tournament action and for people who record, comment, and edit videos of course.
@ericonmarzs
@ericonmarzs 8 жыл бұрын
this was awesome, the red and blue bubbles in the slow mo is genius, you earned a sub. (music was great too)
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Eric, I'm happy that with particular editing we can combine both entertainment and educational value in one video.
@MonsterTeegs
@MonsterTeegs 7 жыл бұрын
Those prizes are great! Actually relevant to the sport and useful. Or a beautiful ornament.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Practical and beautiful, the best kind of presents!
@schwertschwinger
@schwertschwinger 8 жыл бұрын
Finally, SloMo! THANK YOU! :)
@TheApocalypticKnight
@TheApocalypticKnight 8 жыл бұрын
Right, like how difficult was it? :)
@METRO79saccount
@METRO79saccount 7 жыл бұрын
Schwertschwinger its pretty bad slowmo they could definitely do with high quality cameras with better fps
@SpecArch96
@SpecArch96 8 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video! Thank you for removing the sound from the slo mo replays, it was pretty weird last time :p
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm happy you enjoy the upgrade! In the end it's all thanks to suggestions and commentaries of our dear viewers!
@espok4312
@espok4312 7 жыл бұрын
1:29 too much dark souls mate
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
But that execution..! :D
@ArthurHerbst
@ArthurHerbst 8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone editing this fights properly. Good work!
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
It is my pleasure, Arthur. Glad you enjoyed it!
@mels6196
@mels6196 7 жыл бұрын
wow i love these historical swordfights. if it was a real fight and i had to choose a weapon, i'll choose the referee's stick.
@dronox2010
@dronox2010 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think one of the commentators sounds like Belethor from Skyrim?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
This is basically a suggestion to Matt Galas to try the voice acting career? :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6LPqZKrrbSSiKM
@kurniawandwiseptian
@kurniawandwiseptian 7 жыл бұрын
Eeeeverything you need
@Night-Jester
@Night-Jester 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest most interesting things I've ever seen.
@Gloin79
@Gloin79 7 жыл бұрын
That comeback from Linnard though :p
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Aye, keeps you on the edge of the seat!
@averyretodo8159
@averyretodo8159 7 жыл бұрын
Geralt apporves this video
8 жыл бұрын
Nice cut and awesome summary of the finals!
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Björn!
@NEprimo
@NEprimo 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like danilov had his Adidas tracksuit, matching with his shoes, on during that match but we couldn't tell under that armor. Classic
@korzalm
@korzalm 8 жыл бұрын
Nice edition. Please keep it up. Hope you get some more technical fights.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm open for suggestions so if you spot something interesting out there drop me a comment. ;)
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 7 жыл бұрын
Gefeliciteerd met de tweede plek Michel! you gave us a pretty fight!
@justinw947
@justinw947 7 жыл бұрын
nothing cheapens a victory more than having the announcers make excuses for your opponent. linnard has a sore knee....we know.
@justinw947
@justinw947 7 жыл бұрын
these announcers really really love linnard. its hard not to notice their obvious preference between the two fencers.
@hallowedfool
@hallowedfool 8 жыл бұрын
Have to say, I think swordfish needs to change its double hit rules. I found the 3rd/4th match to be far more interesting as the fight for first had far too many double hits - very sporty and is something we should be avoiding
@manfallsoffchair
@manfallsoffchair 7 жыл бұрын
hallowedfool What do you suggest would be better?
@hallowedfool
@hallowedfool 7 жыл бұрын
ElBurro I tend to prefer the rulesets where double hits negate all points for both parties. I would also be interested to see how the rulesets where both fighters are disqualified should they exceed a certain number of double hits fare - I haven't personally been under this rule but I'd be willing to try it because I think the reasoning behind it is sound.
@ummonk
@ummonk 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, both fighters made risky attacks with little concern, and their footwork was very bouncy as well - well-suited for a gym floor but not really for a realistic floor.
@alpenjon
@alpenjon 6 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree. Not all doubles are the same. E.g. if you go out of a simple bind just to hit the opponent on the leg, the opponent will stab you in the chest/head (if he's mentally present). I think it is just that this will set you back one or more points. If you count all doubles the same you won't be punishing such attacks. Also, when you see that your opponent is hitting one of your vital areas (chest/head), e.g. with a Schielhau, instead of parrying you just throw in some cheap double at the legs to nullify a perfectly proper and well earned point. Punishing doubles after a certain number will lead to extremely cautious and defensive fights, where you stay at a distance and go in for a quick thrust or snipe the hands or legs. A contest of Zwerchhaus will be much too risky, and so will be a multitude of other, mostly some of the most interesting techniques. Also, there is no precise border between a double and a slightly delayed afterbow. To complicate things, this also depends on whether you count the initiation of the movement or the actual hit. Punishing doubles will lead to less afterblows, as depending on the speed of the opponent (which is impossible to predict), your current movement might be an afterblow or a double. I think afterblows are vital, as it demonstrates that you didn't just go for an opening while leaving yourself vulnerable or unable to parry. For such reasons, I think factually making no difference between afterblows and doubles in relation to scored points makes a lot of sense. It also has the great benefit of less analysis, work, and subjectivity by the judges.
@calebrobinson6406
@calebrobinson6406 6 жыл бұрын
HEMA Olympics? I like how wrestling is included
@MrInvisibleDrummer
@MrInvisibleDrummer 7 жыл бұрын
I'm from Italy and I didn't know this happened until now. Damn. Gotta train more.
@williambrittain8125
@williambrittain8125 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and great to see SloMo! I'm a journalist in the UK making a short film on Longsword Fencing. Would you mind if I used some of your footage from this video in my project?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for kind words. Please, feel free to use the footage from this project for your movie.
@jumpingbeaner
@jumpingbeaner 6 жыл бұрын
William Brittain this is swordfish though not longsword right?
@raphaelcastro1332
@raphaelcastro1332 7 жыл бұрын
that moment when you realise these guys could turn Olympic fencers into ribbons
@DisemboweII
@DisemboweII 7 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised how useless a sword like this would be against a rapier. What looks like a flimsy, wobbly point of metal is still able to pierce your neck or face in a second. Look up Portuguese vs Samurai; rapiers made such short work of Samurai that Portuguese sailors weren't allowed to bring rapiers on land, and Samurai had swords forged to be lighter with a double edge to be able to fight back...
@hystericalgenie1671
@hystericalgenie1671 7 жыл бұрын
Disembowell the Samuria use different fighting styles and wear different armor. If what you say is true, then why weren't rapuers used extensively on battlefields? The only one that comes to mind is the estoc, but that can be considered a longsword.
@erwinli6962
@erwinli6962 7 жыл бұрын
Fencing foils and épées aren't the same thing as rapiers
@FarremShamist
@FarremShamist 7 жыл бұрын
All of you are fucking wrong. Every Last One of you. Let me go through a list to keep thoughts concise: 1. These guys wouldn't be turning Olympic fencers into ribbons, the fuckers are hitting with the flat of the blades and being rewarded for it. 2. Rapiers are not flimsy or wobbly, what you're thinking of are fencing epees/foils. 3. Rapiers weren't used in the battlefield because of the fact that in a battlefield setting, you have shields, spears, and many other weapons, Rapiers are very bad at battlefield situations due to how you're supposed to use them, they are highly efficient dueling weapons however.
@hystericalgenie1671
@hystericalgenie1671 7 жыл бұрын
Hetuni Jakhal tell that to my colt .500
@brother.d9979
@brother.d9979 7 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I used to practice kendo and love swordplay in general.
@FriedelH8sEmos
@FriedelH8sEmos 7 жыл бұрын
I am very much an amateur when it comes to fencing. I have no doubt I would be sorely outclassed in that aspect of competition....however, what are the wrestling rules? They seem to be an almost a modified Greco roman rules. I saw some lower body takedowns, but no true single or double leg shoots. I wrestled varsity all through highschool and finished my final year of college in division 1 going 48-2. Wouldn't mind competing in that part of the competition. What are the rules and weight classes if any?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Friedel, I do believe it's something worth a try, here are the Ringen tournament rules for Swordfish 2016: swordfish.ghfs.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Ringen-Tournament-Rules-for-Swordfish-2016.pdf
@FriedelH8sEmos
@FriedelH8sEmos 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your reply. Very interesting rules.
@pictishwarrior1055
@pictishwarrior1055 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, never knew this existed until a week ago pretty awesome.
@troublemaker9899
@troublemaker9899 7 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder what was considered a hit back when these weapons were actually in wide use. They had tournaments back then, obviously, so I wonder if the hit had to be more solid. They don't have the sort of assistance technology some of the bladed sports do in the modern era. Perhaps it is my inexperience, but I have to wonder how many of these tap hits would actually have done actual damage in battle, when mail and gloves and armor were in play.
@keenanmclean9916
@keenanmclean9916 4 жыл бұрын
That intro! by 2:15 is was so psyched i forgot what i was watching.
@tightlikeweed9735
@tightlikeweed9735 8 жыл бұрын
sir you are my hero. this video is amazing
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!..
@pwnyryanbow6667
@pwnyryanbow6667 7 жыл бұрын
Linnard was amazing. Even with a knee injury he performed so goddamn well.
@jose91807
@jose91807 7 жыл бұрын
We need this in my country
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
What country is that? Maybe there is a club and you just don't know about it? www.hemaalliance.com/club-finders/
@christopherweidow2634
@christopherweidow2634 6 жыл бұрын
The replay parts are strange to watch because they just suddenly cut people off from talking and seem added in later. Otherwise really, really good.
@raynmakr40
@raynmakr40 7 жыл бұрын
Swords and grappling, this is the sickest sport
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Very true! ;) Fiore de'i Liberi (medieval master of arms) has a lot of grappling techniques described in the fencing context: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anjSgp-smMR7adU
@zacrigby4426
@zacrigby4426 7 жыл бұрын
I think a cool idea for a sort of tournament would be a mixed weapon tourney. So you would enter with whatever weapon you choose (perhaps limit the length and maybe put some safety regulations so no sledgehammers and such) and it would be randomly selected who goes against who. I think it would be interesting to see all the different weapon types and styles clash, and how people react. Who agrees?
@zacrigby4426
@zacrigby4426 7 жыл бұрын
Also, before the smart-arses come, melee weapons only so no guns or crossbows and such
@iancoheekelsey
@iancoheekelsey 7 жыл бұрын
How do I enter the wrestling category? And what are the rules? I feel like I'd mop the floor with them coming from a high school and collegiate wrestling background lol
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Dear iancoheekelsey, here are the Ringen tournament rules used for Swordfish 2016: swordfish.ghfs.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Ringen-Tournament-Rules-for-Swordfish-2016.pdf Some more up-to-date information can be found on official event website: swordfish.ghfs.se/ringen-rule-set/
@soerenuhlmann2208
@soerenuhlmann2208 7 жыл бұрын
is it not allowed to go in to the ringen in the open open longsword? no one does t even if this is one of the best ways to get your aponent without getting hit.
@lukashrabovsky3516
@lukashrabovsky3516 8 жыл бұрын
sometimes they srsly dont use the edge of sword but the flat of it.... it shouldnt be a point for that.... like wtf...
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
A hit with a flat is still a hit if it can't be established otherwise without the help of slowmotion replays (which indicates that hit is not exactly flat as you portray it). As far as we know, clear flat hits don't yield points if that's what you ask about.
@lukashrabovsky3516
@lukashrabovsky3516 8 жыл бұрын
ye, thanks for reply and upload this for us :) Hopefuly next year it will be as good as this year or even better :)
@Gloin79
@Gloin79 7 жыл бұрын
Depends, if you want to do guild fencing the goal wast inflict a bloody headwound so certainly possible with the flat. A hard hit with the flat on the head will still be able to stagger the opponent enough to finish off
@zaganim3813
@zaganim3813 7 жыл бұрын
its like any sport, blame the judges for misjudging!! xD kinda hard to see in a split second aswell and the four judges dont always have good vision, should be more like other sports where the judges can confer over details like that.
@spinn4ntier487
@spinn4ntier487 5 жыл бұрын
Remember that this is fencing, not a real battle. If you start swinging swords blade first at people's head they die
@thewooz7398
@thewooz7398 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what gloves Anders was using and if they're available in the U.S. ...?
@morgisen
@morgisen 7 жыл бұрын
Köning Gloves :) Available here: www.saintmark.se/ I think they can ship to the U.S, but you can always contact them, more info on the website.
@tristunalekzander5608
@tristunalekzander5608 6 жыл бұрын
The intro music was the perfect level of dramatic.
@troyjeffrey4311
@troyjeffrey4311 6 жыл бұрын
13:56 is the best 5 seconds I've ever seen. From approach to death in 5 seconds. A beautiful example of HEMA in its deadliest form.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@SkillWill22
@SkillWill22 6 жыл бұрын
This is great, but a camera with more fps would be VERY useful.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 6 жыл бұрын
Can't disagree, and this is something people do work on (hopefully it will be implemented soon). Hosts of the event and recording team are two different organisations, hence the final result is an amalgamation of two visions.
@peacebewu
@peacebewu 7 жыл бұрын
what kind of longsword are they using? I find them beautiful..
@zaganim3813
@zaganim3813 7 жыл бұрын
its a rennaisance federschwert, a late medieval training and tournament weapon.
@phaikia13
@phaikia13 4 жыл бұрын
The video thumbnail of their faces would be totally in place as characters in the Witcher.
@koloblican11763
@koloblican11763 8 жыл бұрын
You guys need better video cameras!!!! Great fencing.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
I would say one extra camera shoothing the action from above would be a great start! :) Thank you for the comment!
@snow9830
@snow9830 7 жыл бұрын
The original video has better quality but no editing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKetkGx4o86Zg68&
@truepremise2053
@truepremise2053 6 жыл бұрын
Where are the axes?
@deivisony
@deivisony 7 жыл бұрын
What? sword and wrestling and that karate brick thing but without bricks and using swords? is this the MMA of sword?
@CPalanysamy
@CPalanysamy 7 жыл бұрын
is it hard to get into this sport? expensive? does it hurt?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Karl, as any sport it hurts sometimes, but it's not expensive on the entry level, so nothing should stop you from joining! :) As for the club finder: www.hemaalliance.com/club-finders/
@CPalanysamy
@CPalanysamy 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I think I will give it a try.
@bcn1gh7h4wk
@bcn1gh7h4wk 7 жыл бұрын
I'm writing a fantasy story, and one of the characters is a sports champion. I told my people about him, "think, Tiger Woods, or Roger Federer... he's huge at what he does", and this, actual swordsmen in their actual turf, is really different. this is not a show for the audience.... this is people practicing their sport, and letting the audience in on it, and sharing it with the audience. they could easily do it without the audience, and it would still count. they still put muscle and wit into it, and they get tired the same, without the hero worship. that's something worth writing.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't reply back to you on the day, Nighthawk, but just want to let you know - well said. Please share the link(?) to the story when you'll finish!
@johoneil2
@johoneil2 7 жыл бұрын
Is there such thing as "closed" longsword then?
@snow9830
@snow9830 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the women's longsword is closed to anyone who isnt a woman.
@JohnoPete
@JohnoPete 7 жыл бұрын
So many double hits... Is there no solution to this problem?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
As annoying as it is, it's not like participants are doing it on purpose - more strict rules could help, but I believe the problem comes from the techniques implemented in the binds from both(!) fencers.
@alpenjon
@alpenjon 7 жыл бұрын
I would agree, punishing doubles has its own drawbacks that can complicate and distort everything even more, leaving e.g. to very defensive fights where you tend not to go into close-in combat (a double while doing Zwerchhau vs. Zwerchhau is often just a matter of difference in intiative, speed and angles). Fencers instead stay at a distance and look for a quick cut or thrust and retreat. Looks more like modern epee fencing then (I'm saying this with no judgement involved). I think this fight and the utilized styles are only a temporary development in tournament longsword fighting, especially because they both didn't clearly prevail against other fighters in the previous fights. Also, at least 2 thrusts to the mask were not seen at least by the judges (which is understandable due to the speed and follow up motions). At some point, you'll have to use counters to the Zwerchhau, and they do exist. They just take quite an amount of skill to do against someone as quick and cunning as Michel.
@AlexanderHL1919
@AlexanderHL1919 6 жыл бұрын
There is a solution but.. its kinda permanent..
@clashplaya8638
@clashplaya8638 4 жыл бұрын
Guy: shoots high crotch Announcer: NICE SINGLE!
@The_Champion96
@The_Champion96 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, honestly i dont like when they stop im just thinking that the point should be made when the thrust or cut make the opponent body jitted to the other side of the hit
@cameronmacdonald5347
@cameronmacdonald5347 7 жыл бұрын
Is Swordfish only a German tournament, or is there Fiore too?
@snow9830
@snow9830 7 жыл бұрын
There are many practitioners from both traditions each year.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Anything goes. But more on particular discussion here: www.reddit.com/r/wma/comments/424e4p/italian_vs_german_why_is_fiore_rarely_seen_at/
@Driftingsword
@Driftingsword 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone spell for me the technique used so much in the 1st place match?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Zwerchhau kzbin.info/www/bejne/op-cZXhvdqyMisU
@МихаилФедосов-з4у
@МихаилФедосов-з4у 7 жыл бұрын
What is begin soundtrack??
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
It's written in the video! :) "Sword of Destiny"
@joekenney3527
@joekenney3527 6 жыл бұрын
i see alot of hits that are not counted for linnard.
@arielbenitez98
@arielbenitez98 5 жыл бұрын
Linnard diserved that win imo still good fight but thay comeback at the end woop
@AnthonyMazzarella
@AnthonyMazzarella 7 жыл бұрын
what is the grappling called
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. I believe you ask about Ringen? swordfish.ghfs.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Ringen-Tournament-Rules-for-Swordfish-2016.pdf
@Doublebarreledsimian
@Doublebarreledsimian 7 жыл бұрын
Hello all, This is the first HEMA match I've actually watched. What are the rules? I come from an Olympic Fencing background, Foil and Epee, and I'm wondering if there are any similar rules? Is the entire body fair game like Epee or just above the Waist like Saber? Are there any penalties? Doesn't look like there's a right of way rule. This really looks like an interesting sport.
@bram6070
@bram6070 7 жыл бұрын
The rules are a little bit different in each tournament but in general they go like this: The whole body is target except for the groin, back of the head and spine because this is to dangeres. Different parts of the body are worth different points (for example: trust to body is 3, cut or strike to body is 2, trust cut or strike to arms or legs is 1, ...) There is no right of way rule, when you hit someone the other person can still hit you back within a very short period of time, this means you have to take your defence seriously. You can grapple your oponents blade and/or start wrestling. Normally there are 1 or more rounds consisting of a few minutes (for example: 2x 3 minutes) whoever has the most points at the end wins.
@acerking76
@acerking76 6 жыл бұрын
This is NOT HEMA, this is fencing, its pathetic.
@mr.pooples2871
@mr.pooples2871 7 жыл бұрын
What swords are they using?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Federschwerter (or just Feder) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feder_(fencing)
@artygunnar
@artygunnar 7 жыл бұрын
WITCHER 3 SCORE!!!!
@Steven-mk4gg
@Steven-mk4gg 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like a Judo BB would dominate these grappling exchanges.
@hemmydall
@hemmydall 8 жыл бұрын
I know HEMA is sportsy, but I don't see how half of the hits on the head would do anything to anyone in a real fight. I think the styles and movements get weakened by going for points rather than whats effective.
@iacopoiacoponi1983
@iacopoiacoponi1983 8 жыл бұрын
totally agree with you
@BekoPharm
@BekoPharm 8 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between "Bloßfechten" and "Harnischfechten" +Ryan Showalter. These strikes _are_ lethal if not for the blunts and the protective gear ('cuz, it's sportsy and all). The technics for fighting an opponent in [historic] armor are a completly different beast and not so popular (yet?). I think Longpoint features some Harnischfechten in the tournaments. For some examples I'd like to refer to Hammaborg. You'll find plenty on YT if you want to know more ;-)
@leviathanssteak
@leviathanssteak 8 жыл бұрын
Ryan Showalter I can assure you that although hema looks "sporty", those feders hit HARD. I can assure you that a sharp longsword hitting a bare head can definitely kill
@hallowedfool
@hallowedfool 8 жыл бұрын
Sharp 1.5kg of steel hitting you on an unarmoured head in a real fight (these tournaments siulate unarmored combat)? Yeah... They would There are advantages and disadvantages to the tournament fighting and you can find many discussions on the matter. Care is being taken to try not to make the tournaments too 'sporty' so they still attempt to resemble what they might have looked like historically. There are arguments against these events and the 'sportification of HEMA', as it were, but I assure you that strikes to the head are not one of them
@iacopoiacoponi1983
@iacopoiacoponi1983 8 жыл бұрын
Bernd Kosmahl I think that the main thing in speaking of difference between sport and martial art is not the real efficacy of a single hit (at least in hema) but the strategy behind them, and the overall attitude of the fighters
@he110me
@he110me 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a version without the slow-motion stops?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKetkGx4o86Zg68
@he110me
@he110me 7 жыл бұрын
thank you kindly!
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! ^_^
@aljon5947
@aljon5947 3 жыл бұрын
The music is nice but its way too loud
@Corellon666
@Corellon666 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, black Köning Gloves on Anders?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
I see you spotted the new black version of the Köning Gloves! :) I added the card (new YT pop-up system) in the video with the link to the latest review, here it is if you missed it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6PCpZiQjqqJndk
@PatryczakPL
@PatryczakPL 7 жыл бұрын
How tall are these guys ?
@snow9830
@snow9830 7 жыл бұрын
How long is a piece of string?
@gasfrommyanusi0i594
@gasfrommyanusi0i594 7 жыл бұрын
are these thin swords historically accurate?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
The Federschwert, or Feder sword, is a training sword that was used in Fencing schools during the Renaissance. Perfectly designed, the Federschwert served to safely practice full speed combat among practitioners, while reducing the risk of injury. The Federschwert greatest attribute is their similar weight and balance to real swords of the same period. The Federschwert is shown extensively in the fighting manuals of the 16th century, particularly those of Paulus Hector Mair and Joachim Meyer.
@gasfrommyanusi0i594
@gasfrommyanusi0i594 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! excellent reply
@TheRolr
@TheRolr 6 жыл бұрын
what's the song on 1:16?
@Socomnick
@Socomnick 6 жыл бұрын
KZbin how the fuck did you lead me to this ?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found a way to us. :) Hope your stay was pleasant.
@kingk.ripple
@kingk.ripple 5 жыл бұрын
everyone that steps onto that mat should be wearing protection. i feel that that ref is just one poke away from no more refing.
@jeorhan1262
@jeorhan1262 8 жыл бұрын
29:10 This exchange decided the match but I am wholy unconvinced that would do any serious damage, let alone award 2 points. It would likely cut an unarmoured opponent but c'mon. There was hardly any contact at all.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Have to agree, but as the head is considered to be an imporant target (...) I suppose awarding 2 points makes sense, since you need to award something anyway and it comes down to either (as an option) deducting one point with this whole "superficial cut" point of view, or awarding two points, as the sword reached it's target even though it wasnt a knockout strike. That being said, we all should agree that if judges will start bending rules on the go during the match it will not lead to anything good, but, having a discussion here in the comments - that's what this whole recording was made for.
@jeorhan1262
@jeorhan1262 7 жыл бұрын
I am not really qualified to say whether or not it is a good thing, but it just felt greasy and undeserved. Like he stole the match. I suppose you are right though. There is no way to gauge the power, alignment, or follow through of a hit in this form of combat. A hit is simply a hit.
@jackieyo6128
@jackieyo6128 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeorhan1262 he didn't steal anything, blame the judges if you want not Federico.
@ahmadnuursyifafuady141
@ahmadnuursyifafuady141 7 жыл бұрын
is that Skall?
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
No...
@carl-ok9gn
@carl-ok9gn 7 жыл бұрын
curious what the woman with the stick is doing.
@osborne4282
@osborne4282 5 жыл бұрын
Dude Linnard was coming back
@andrewrobertson3894
@andrewrobertson3894 6 жыл бұрын
And yet another nice takedown and Siegmund has the mount! His Jujitsu is so amazing that he's barely breaking a sweat as he works to improve his.... Oh my god oh my god oh my god.. . Ah, please excuse me, ladies and gentleman um, ah.. our new champion is.. ah, Lionel.. I think? Defeating Siegward 4 minutes into round 1 by way of approximately 12 puncture wounds to the stomach and kidneys of the ah... deceased former champion. I...
@troyjeffrey4311
@troyjeffrey4311 5 жыл бұрын
13:54 breathtaking
@paxas03
@paxas03 7 жыл бұрын
That chick hold the stick nice
@aurelius672
@aurelius672 4 жыл бұрын
The Witcher music is legendary! LELEY LELELEY LELEY
@dreep2302
@dreep2302 7 жыл бұрын
that witcher sound track thou
@abdallhmohamed6442
@abdallhmohamed6442 8 жыл бұрын
witcher muisc ❤❤❤
@Leo-yz5wd
@Leo-yz5wd 6 жыл бұрын
That music is so cool
@gasfrommyanusi0i594
@gasfrommyanusi0i594 7 жыл бұрын
jeez my cellphone has some better slow mo footage...
@samuelbecker6425
@samuelbecker6425 7 жыл бұрын
im all for HEMA and learning sword fighting but that barely touched your wrist BS is stupid and annoying
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
I believe it's important to acknowledge the hit if it inflicts a damage that could result in blood being spilled. Why? Rules for many of the last swordfights at the end of the fencing era were till the first blood (with most exceptions coming from France and Italy as I can recall). Nevertheless, I do appreciate the fact that a clear body hit is more satisfying to watch. :)
@zaganim3813
@zaganim3813 7 жыл бұрын
what looks like "barely touvhing the wrist" is a quick snapping motion and all it takes with a sharp sword to cut the tendons clean if you are unarmoured. cutting the thumb is also devastating as the thumb is the most important finger for even holding the sword.
@MrEpeeFencer
@MrEpeeFencer 8 жыл бұрын
That slow-mo music gets old real fast.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
That was a problem, but other options were either too dull or were getting even more repetitive over time. The quest of finding the golden middle continues. ;)
@howlingowl3254
@howlingowl3254 8 жыл бұрын
FLYING HELLFISH LIVE ON
@nomdreg
@nomdreg 6 жыл бұрын
Wow.... the judges were wrong so many times..... why dont they just use video to determin the outcome of the match instead of outright judge wrong
@gurkfisk89
@gurkfisk89 6 жыл бұрын
Using video has it's advantages. But there are some drawbacks too. And I think that the largest is time. It will take a lot more time to go over video than to simply call it as it happens. Most events are struggling with tournaments taking too long time as it is. As it is now, some judges simply don't see the action because the fighters are in the way. That's why you need two people to see you score and not all of them. Similarly, if you used video you would need at least 4 differnt cameras and hope that by studying all of them you understand what really happened. With video the outcome would perhaps be more correct. However, even with the system today with judges that has a hard time to see what happens, and are indeed in many cases simply wrong, I think it's very uncommon that the outcome of the match would be different. As long as the judges are equally wrong when scoring the two fightes, it will even out in the end. =)
@alexandrrogers8957
@alexandrrogers8957 7 жыл бұрын
Судейство странное. Мёртвые не наносят ответных ударов
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/apebaXhnZ9GXr7s
@hugopierre2268
@hugopierre2268 6 жыл бұрын
Hej carl hoppas att det var kul! Hahaha
@hugopierre2268
@hugopierre2268 6 жыл бұрын
Jag är ludvig!!!
@-pat-9429
@-pat-9429 4 жыл бұрын
I really tried to give this a shoot but the slow down "recaps" to show the hit were annoying as hell, just let me see the sword fight holy shit.
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 4 жыл бұрын
It is important to analyze the quality of strikes in particular format of the competition. If you want to see a continuous fencing match you can give this a try: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpCkeoWVd7KfoLc
@shanazparveen7033
@shanazparveen7033 7 жыл бұрын
Kristian is fast 😊🤔😊😊
@narudh
@narudh 6 жыл бұрын
Y U NO PARRY GIT GUD
@maxl3189
@maxl3189 3 жыл бұрын
So both swordsman would have sustained major injuries in battle lol
@tiwersan
@tiwersan 5 жыл бұрын
да
@marcoconuts
@marcoconuts 7 жыл бұрын
dang what is that wrestling
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 7 жыл бұрын
Ringen :) swordfish.ghfs.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Ringen-Tournament-Rules-for-Swordfish-2016.pdf
@Judicial78
@Judicial78 8 жыл бұрын
lol 2:05 "2006"
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
I see you are one of those people who are easily entertained? :D
@Judicial78
@Judicial78 8 жыл бұрын
ViciouSExorcisT It's a good trait!
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
Can't disagree, can't even say I'm not exactly one of those people either. ;)
@SuperDraupnir
@SuperDraupnir 8 жыл бұрын
+Judicial78 You don't know what anno in logotypes mean? It literally means year but you read it as "since" or "founded in". I.e. "Est 2006" or "Since 2006".
@ViciouSExorcisT
@ViciouSExorcisT 8 жыл бұрын
I think Judicial knows, but it makes him very happy for some reason... As I see it - easily entertained. :D
@dustykercheif7044
@dustykercheif7044 6 жыл бұрын
federico feder-ico he has hacks on
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