iron vessels, where i bought my iron vessels, madurai chikkanthar store madurai chikkanthar store Abdul Rahman 9843633445 9965091504
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@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Chikanthar shop Abdul Rahman Madurai 9843633445 9965091504
@khajakhaja99925 жыл бұрын
Hi
@susankumar27674 жыл бұрын
Which shop is best... Sikkander store or mma
@User-yb7tx5 жыл бұрын
You asked all the necessary questions... allowed the shopkeeper to explain and in detail. You dint interrupt or divert the qn... excellent gesture Mam!! good info abt the vessel collection and thanks for this upload as I requested before where would you buy...
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@ekvmali95225 жыл бұрын
Shop keeper mr Abdul was explaining how to season iron In a excellent way
@dr.mariyamajani58555 жыл бұрын
Please explain in english
@marks3953 жыл бұрын
Only useful for who knows Tamil
@NPSi3 жыл бұрын
@@marks395 please be nice. Thanks
@YummydayswithKavitha5 жыл бұрын
Hi Akka Inga video paathu naan cast iron vessels what's app order pannunan today reach aagiduchu ....thank u ka ennoda videola unga name mention panni errukan.....thank u hema Akka Romba useful vlog
Indha kadai vida pazhamaiyana kadai Jeyalakshmi metals, idhea Pudhumandapathil thaan irukkiradhu pls check. Price is also less
@rajkumarharikrishnan99915 жыл бұрын
They send across all over India
@kowshgdgisakthi36895 жыл бұрын
Dosa tawa, chapati tawa, 9 kulie paniyara kal, 9 inches vada chati, omlette tawa small size. All products cast iron
@velmurugansankaramahalinga49805 жыл бұрын
All collection super sister, iron vessels use panrathu namma healthkku romba ñallathu
@Suganya786 Жыл бұрын
Hi mam very useful video.. old is good.. many info shared.. If possible again shoot a video with updated info..
@saransaran76155 жыл бұрын
Thought to buy a kada but did not know where to buy .. Thank you so much for this info ..
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@shwetarajasekar5 жыл бұрын
Superb Video Hema's Kitchen , very Informative! Inspired me to order from Sikkander Stores and had a wonderful shopping experience with them, they are very patient in showing us all designs and special thanks to Mr Abdul, for all your help and speedy shipping to Mumbai! I look forward to shopping with you again.
@lifeturningpoint82384 жыл бұрын
Iron idly vessels erukatha Miss. Shweta rajasekar
@SuguselfiepandaYelagiri5 жыл бұрын
Hi amma 🤩🤩🤩 good morning 🤩🤩🤩 super iron items good collection 😍😍😍
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@shehanaza57195 жыл бұрын
Excellent shop....from my personal experience...quality products...reasonable rates and packing & courier is truly appreciable...
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
yes dear...product is very good... no delivery charges...
@krithigaa63235 жыл бұрын
Whatsapp panna reply pana matranga epdi vangarthu plsss tel
@Ramyaramnallachannel3 жыл бұрын
@@HemasKitchen whatsApp no
@Murugasvalli5 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much sis ...en channel name mention pannadhukku.🙏🙏😍😍
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear.. Nalla shop enaku introduce pannathuku... Love u dear 💞💞💞💞💞
@AbdulRahman-pd2vz5 жыл бұрын
Hai mam
@AbdulRahman-pd2vz5 жыл бұрын
Thank for hema mam and murugas mam
@Murugasvalli5 жыл бұрын
@@HemasKitchen no thanks sis....oh my god unga anbukku nandri sis. I m so happy for u.
@Murugasvalli5 жыл бұрын
@@AbdulRahman-pd2vz thanks u so much bro
@kamu26025 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hema for bringing this shop to lime light. The shop keeper has explained very well. Will definitely buy from them.👍
@Rohayamarahimulla5 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum sister anaku pedithathu pottathuku thanks by roja 🌹
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@ShiSidsGallery5 жыл бұрын
Nella collections amma....romba useful Ana products...kammiyavum iruku....orruku pona our visit adikiren ma..ippove kanganum pola iruku...insha allaha India vandhu poi vaguren.....
@VennilaVeedusangeetha5 жыл бұрын
super akka...murugas kitchen la naanum paathe intha shop...neraiya collection vachrukanga...useful information ka 👌👌👌
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm yes ma niraya collection's eruku ma
@ApolloHomeApplainces2.05 жыл бұрын
Neenga enga Shop Video Eduka Varingala Mam Sikkander Stores Pudhumandapam
@VennilaVeedusangeetha5 жыл бұрын
@@ApolloHomeApplainces2.0 hema akka kitta kekringla bro
@ApolloHomeApplainces2.05 жыл бұрын
@@VennilaVeedusangeetha illa Mam na unga kitta tha kekuren
@VennilaVeedusangeetha5 жыл бұрын
@@ApolloHomeApplainces2.0 anna naanga pollachila irukom...but madurai vantha kandippa shop varom...unga shop address kudunga na
@guhapriya14315 жыл бұрын
Superb mam... Surely I will order .... Thanks for ur vlog
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@lakshmeganesh64865 жыл бұрын
Sir very respect full and hardwarking man. 👌
@Zyx1905 жыл бұрын
Excellent narration by abdul bhai. its real honest business. Pity the world is mad after non-stick stuff. When will we realise the value of native science
@vigneshayyavu27925 жыл бұрын
Next time Video konjam divide pani podunga thookam varudhu😉
@dhivyavijayakumar41115 жыл бұрын
Your video is very useful... I have ordered kuzhi paniyara kal.... I were searching for long time to buy this... Thank you for this video
@vijayakumarkrishnan45295 жыл бұрын
Super and nice explanation
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@sarumathisarumathi85755 жыл бұрын
Hi sir en WhatsApp naber 009715579211 iran photo anupuka
@padminipadma60985 жыл бұрын
Super useful video 100 years aa kadai nadathinalum miga porumaiyaga ellathaiyum detaila vilakkinar kadaikarar avarukkum all the best
@lifeisdream73825 жыл бұрын
Already na sikanthar store customer mam fantastic products 2mths ah use pannitu iruken
@ambaitopollachi89595 жыл бұрын
Unmiya Nala irukuma pls knjam sluga
@lifeisdream73825 жыл бұрын
Guru Murugan promise ah super product na yellamey antha rendu kadaila than pandren nonstick vangi vachu athai yedukavey pudikala iron kadai taste yen hus ku romba pudichu pochu yenkita thosa kal illa nonstick la than thosai podven yen hudband thitranga antha taste varala udaney oru iron thosai kal order pannu nu solli irukanga budjet prob iruku so next moths sikanther store ku watsup la iron thosai tawa order panni vangiduven namba sikanther store la 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 yenaku photos anupa theriyathu plz yaravthu photo yepdi anuparthunu vedio podunga plzzz athanalathan na kadai vanginatha namba matranga
@ambaitopollachi89595 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisdream7382 super good etha photo anupa theriyalanu sollu thika
@lifeisdream73825 жыл бұрын
Guru Murugan na vangina IRON products i intha vlog ku yepdi mail la photo anupanum
@niraimathi245 жыл бұрын
Exact ah engae iruku
@munishkumar14204 жыл бұрын
TQ for visiting madurai and video potu peruma paduthurukeenga TQ
@getrelax45515 жыл бұрын
அக்கா கடந்த மாதம் இவா்கிட்ட தான் நான் நெல் குத்துற இரும்பு உலக்கு பிள்ளைங்களுக்கு செப்பு விளையாட்டு ஜாமான் மினி இட்லி தட்டு குலாய் புட்டு அச்சி இரும்பு தோசைக்கல்லு வாங்கி வந்தோம் அக்கா.
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh super MA
@chitrak.n.57445 жыл бұрын
V good. Useful one mam. I'm also using iron kadai, mud vessels. Nanum Madurai kara ponnu 😊😊👌👍
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh super MA 👐👐👐👐👐
@ammudsa29965 жыл бұрын
Wwooowwwwww super collection sis pakum pothe vanganum thonuthu...price kamiya irruku..
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Yes ma quality yum nalla eruku.. Iron vessels vangunga ma
@ammudsa29965 жыл бұрын
Sure sis
@Bluebird122115 жыл бұрын
Akka... Super detailed explanation akka... Thank u so much... Neenga romba theliva kelvikal kettirukeenga.. Ithu pakaravangalku romba useful aa irukum... Cast iron doubr enaku irunthath... Nalla velai neenga avanga kitu explain panna soneenga... Niraiya peru same shop videos pottirukanga.. But yaarum ivalom nalla detailed aa clarityoda kettathu illa ka.... Avanga kitu kalchatti iruka ka??
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq so much dear... Kalchatti eruku ma... Antha number ku WhatsApp pannunga photo anupuvanga ma
@Bluebird122115 жыл бұрын
@@HemasKitchen : Okie ka
@ammasaad19605 жыл бұрын
SUPER amma very nice Useful information tp nomber amma sollunga
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Abdul Rahman 9965091504
@durgajayamani62975 жыл бұрын
Na oru cast iron skillet vanguna whatspp la order panni saturday order panna wednesday kadachethu only online payment packaging superr romba nalla pack pani anupunaga skillet heavy weight rate 3 kg weight 10 inch Skillet 300 Seasoning 100 Delivery charge 100 Totally 500 Na amazon la order panna 1050 but na return pannitan thanks to hema mam thanks for this video thank you so much. Na future la etha kadaila yea naraiya iron product vanganu idea panirukn Once again thanks hema mam for this video 😊
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@durgajayamani62975 жыл бұрын
Cast iron kela veluntha break aguma
@revathym71185 жыл бұрын
Madam Abdul sir ku phone panni order pannitaen madam.. such an useful video.. thank you
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh super dear... Iron vessels use panni healthy ya erunga ma
@nishanthiganesan5 жыл бұрын
Hi shipping charge how much they charge
@revathym71185 жыл бұрын
@Vinodha Periasamy s.. correct ah anupitaanga... Good quality also ..
Very useful info.Thank u.My next visit to sikkandhar
@mylittleworldtamil5 жыл бұрын
Super akka👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@lavanyav805 жыл бұрын
Different yosichu nala video potrukinga akka... iron vessel la rate jasthi nu vangunathey ila... but. Rompa cheap pa iruku romba useful video. Thank u😍😍
@kamalanagarajan59045 жыл бұрын
Sir Tiruchyel unga kadai irukka?
@subbalakshmiiswarya33535 жыл бұрын
Excellent video hema aunty...very useful and i will purchase things surely in this shop...just loved it..
Try in twnhall 5 corner for irumbu shops or kamala stores
@kalaivanis70425 жыл бұрын
@@SHARMILEEJ thank you for your reply.
@snbsyed27395 жыл бұрын
super amma very useful video💕💕💕💕💕💕😘😘😘😘😘kandipa ellarukum useful a erukum amma
@vinothinimohan44255 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@umasubramanian32045 жыл бұрын
HI sister nanum mdu than ninga mdu ku vanthingala such a Nice place nan intha vedio va ippo than parthan nalla explain pannaru thq for this vedio
@sankarkokila6745 жыл бұрын
வெளி நாட்டுக்கு அனுப்புவாங்களா ஹேமா மேடம் ?
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Yes anupuvanga ma Chikanthar shop Abdul Rahman Madurai 9843633445 9965091504 call panni kelunga ma
@sankarkokila6745 жыл бұрын
நன்றி மேடம்
@saipranathy394 жыл бұрын
Hi ma . . 2 days before only even I also bought dosa kal and castor iron skillet from tis shop
@andrewjuliyaandrewjuliya29995 жыл бұрын
Akka eppam eppadi irrukinga
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Unga prayers nala nalla eruken ma
@senthamaraiselvik56755 жыл бұрын
Yaen pa, udambu sari illaya Hema?
@prasadkarthik79615 жыл бұрын
Super sir idukage.ve vangenum Amazon flipkart.lam bayandhu reasonable rate kudikenum analum nama uru Anna namaku reasonable rate kudukere Anna vazhanum friends inni online shopping badhil ipadi namma uru kadaile vangunge friends... Anna.vum namma makaluku correct rate kudikenum adhigema kuduke kudadhu...
@abiramisakthi39285 жыл бұрын
Super mam ... Really very useful video.... Helpful to everyone watching tis....
@aarthyv34695 жыл бұрын
Right video at the right time sis..was planning to get iron thava from Amazon...thank u so much..
@sarojak4815 жыл бұрын
Hi Hema, Wonderful coverage of the products.The owner too explained in detail regarding the price & seasoning method.Not many people openly the the price of their products.Had ordered certain items.Cost is also very reasonable.Thank u Hema & Sikkandar Stores.Awaiting new products.
@shailasuresh18895 жыл бұрын
Hi dear Hema!Wow!Ur in my native.Gud collections dear.Explanation superb.Reasonable price.When i visit Madurai,need to visit tis shop.Tqu dear for sharing tis shopping vlog🙏👌👌😊💕💕💞💞💝
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh shailu unga oorthana... Thanq dear 💞💞💞
@adelineberlie89025 жыл бұрын
Shaila Sures
@suchithrasreethar29615 жыл бұрын
Very useful video..I was waiting so long for a proper video like this..thank you..had soany doubts regarding iron vessels which is cleared now
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Wow super dear
@lohitrockstar5 жыл бұрын
Learnt so many things from this video mam thank you so much
@vanajagovind17345 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Madam😃👍 Very informative..
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@jennyremus14855 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much akka. I was searching online for cast iron vessels. I'll order for sure
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Abdul Rahman 9965091504.... Online la romba coastly ma
@jennyremus14855 жыл бұрын
Ama akka athan romba yosanaya irunthathu. But inga reasonable rate ah irukku 👍
@pushpalathalakshmikanthan66935 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m from Chennai, I have ordered from this shop.very good response.yesterday I ordered today I received the parcel in good condition. Very cheap n good quality thank you Abdul Rahman sir and Hema’s kitchen.
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Super MA..
@wahidhabegum65835 жыл бұрын
Very nice Sister. Me too planning to buy in the same shop.Thank you so much for your information posted.
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear.. Antha number ku WhatsApp pannunga MA
@merinasa47394 жыл бұрын
Pure இரும்பு best டா? வார்ப்பு இரும்பு best டா? Madam please சொல்லுங்க
@selvianbu27125 жыл бұрын
Really really super kadaiyavea puratipoodudinga price is very super thank you so much.
@suganyachitra30855 жыл бұрын
That shop is very Mam because always I m buy in same shop in my childhood itself
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh super MA
@raginisri67205 жыл бұрын
Very nice video mam, cast iron, iron kadai edhu healthku nalladhu please explain pananga in another video
@BALAKAVI5 жыл бұрын
Very nice useful vedio dear
@praveenaj83865 жыл бұрын
Very good thought ma'am, thank you so much!!
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@sumisumathi15045 жыл бұрын
Super aunty iron kitchen items ellam super my dr very useful...Thanks for sharing aunty..enga amma appa Madurai pakgathula karaikudi la irukganga my dr aunty...karaikudi pogum pothu intha shop poi pakkuran....
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh super MA
@guruganesh56995 жыл бұрын
Super இத்தனை நாள் தெரியாமல் போச்சி நான் சிவகாசியில் இருக்கிறேன் கன்டிப்பாக போகனும்😊😊😊
@mrsrajtamil13814 жыл бұрын
Shop name? Which place? Reply Amma... Because it will useful to many like me....
@zulfiasrecipes5 жыл бұрын
Very nice vlog sis 😍😍😍😍
@mamiyarmarumagalveedu56885 жыл бұрын
Super vlog siss collections nice👍
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@safilkhasin82445 жыл бұрын
Super Amma....... Very very good and use full video ma.......Thank you so much ma........
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@gangaramnandhakumar64425 жыл бұрын
Excellent video..... Super.... Very useful for future when where nonstick poisonous tawa and kadai are trying to dominate.... Our own old iron things are useful
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Yes ma...
@girijasanthosh7875 жыл бұрын
Very useful to everyone. Thank you so much mam. I like your vlog and samayal very much.
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@lakshmideviv76313 жыл бұрын
Hi madam shallow fry kadai using appam recepe cheyavacha
@sumithramurali73905 жыл бұрын
Superb ma’am. Convey my regards to Abdul Rehman Anna . Vazgha Valamudan 🙏
@priyankamuthuraj53665 жыл бұрын
Superb amma nanum pathen, tq amma, useful video 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@kiruthikapalanisamy78365 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's very useful. I bought Paniyara kal
@user-mh1yz7ed7d5 жыл бұрын
Required video... Very very useful.. Thanx for posting
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq ma
@ambritha5 жыл бұрын
Enaku antha Anna solumbothe vanganum pola iruku akka.. Nanum kandipa madurai pogum bothu vanguven..
@karthigadevi6935 жыл бұрын
Hi aunty Very useful vedio.na next time apk pokumpothu kandipa vanguven
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@sujiragu21525 жыл бұрын
akka neega yenna vanguniga?na iron paniyarakkal vadasatti thalippu karandi use pannitu irukken superra irukkum vlog super
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Next video la soldren ma... Super MA
@kowshgdgisakthi36895 жыл бұрын
Hi mam am from salem. Today i bought 5 products from this shop. Yesterday i paid amt today afternoon am received the products without any damage. Thanks for ur information madam.
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Wow super MA
@likekrish5 жыл бұрын
Mam can u tell me what r d vessels u bought for my reference. I dunno wat to buy
@SindhuKrishnaramanujam5 жыл бұрын
sister courier charges evlo aachu
@kowshgdgisakthi36895 жыл бұрын
Namma vangara things weight poruthu courier charges differ aahum . For me 230 rs.
@SindhuKrishnaramanujam5 жыл бұрын
@@kowshgdgisakthi3689 ok sister
@suganthinandhagopal36755 жыл бұрын
Super sis....enga oruku vanthurukinga romba santhosama iruku💕💕💕💕my fav palace puthumandapam
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohh super MA..
@tamzih5 жыл бұрын
I have ordered from Sikanthar shop.Thanks to Murugas kitchen! All products were shipped here to the US. Packing was top notch .Abdul anna is very professional and prompt in replying to my questions .
@jeniferjuliya66685 жыл бұрын
tamzih Hi..I am in US..how much is the delivery ?
@jeniferjuliya66685 жыл бұрын
tamzih hw was it delivered to US?
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Chikanthar shop Abdul Rahman Madurai 9843633445 9965091504 Intha number ku call panni Kelunga MA
@tamzih5 жыл бұрын
Jenifer delivery charges are per kilo.it was 500 per kilo
@tamzih5 жыл бұрын
Jenifer it was delivered thro Garuda Vega
@pbaskartvr5 жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Super iron vessels information thank u mam
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@karrilalitha91274 жыл бұрын
Hii hema, please make video on bronze utensils, and bronze deepam ,bronze figurines. English subtitles pls
@manjuvaniswamyvel2825 жыл бұрын
Brought here via whatsapp m products are really gud n well packed thnks🙏🏼
@banupriyakamatchihariharan17415 жыл бұрын
cod panangala mam
@snekadurga85475 жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Super iron vessels information thank u mam 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear
@suriyakala4525 жыл бұрын
Wow super....... very useful mam.thank you so much
@harshan_editz-444 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this video and its very nice
@abiramiraj82975 жыл бұрын
Super mam... Next madurai podumpothu... Nan kandepa purchase panren
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Thanq dear
@womenskittyscareas53595 жыл бұрын
எனக்கு இந்த கடை பிடிச்சிருக்கு இந்த பதிவுக்கு நன்றி
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
நன்றி மா
@psolomon10005 жыл бұрын
wow! Namma Madhurai yila super Irumbu Kadai!
@umalakshmi24065 жыл бұрын
Cast iron seasoning podunga paniyarakal and appa kadai
@selvissamayal24005 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much akka en friend romba nalaga thandavalakkal thedunanga avangalukku muthala share panninen🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh super MA... Naanum thandavala dosa kal vachi eruken
@sangeetha-dc3kh5 жыл бұрын
Superb sis.. I m in Madurai , but I don't know this kind of shop and value of the vessel.. thanks definitely I will buy it today.. thanks lot..
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Tq dear.. Poi parunga MA
@dhivyajuly5 жыл бұрын
useful video
@velvel33165 жыл бұрын
Hi Ma'am, Instead of Vadicha kanji any other option is there? Are they selling pre seasoned tawa and kadai?
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Abdul Rahman 9965091504 Call pannunga ma
@senthamaraiselvik56755 жыл бұрын
Weight 5.500 kg pa. Courier charge 140 rs...
@suryathirunavukkarasar70215 жыл бұрын
Hi mam how are you? Very useful vlog.. Rates are very reasonable to buy.. When I see this iron vessels.. It's remember my childhood days.. My granny was used this kind of vessels.. Thank you so much.. I am going to try this.. 😊
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Yes dear.. Again iron culture start aagidichi... Inga try pannunga MA
@suryathirunavukkarasar70215 жыл бұрын
Sure mummy 😊🍫
@MSR87535 жыл бұрын
Super amma.. na pure iron la dosa kal vangiruken... appam kadai vanganum nu eruken... cast iron vessels kum pure iron kum ena difference mam? Rendume healthy thana?
@HemasKitchen5 жыл бұрын
Yes ma... Video la detail la solli erukar kadai owner
@sudhas41024 жыл бұрын
Are there no other sellers in madurai. Why is every KZbinr only speaking of this store ? I had messaged him and asked for parcel. He rudely said thanks and kept quiet. My request was to not use sticking tape and less plastic in parcel which is not difficult ille ?