Some commenters on here (no names) seem to think that this is derivative, copying Chopin. Well this concerto was composed seven years before Chopin's two, and Chopin dedicated his first concerto to Kalkbrenner. So who derived what from whom exactly?
@domenecgonzalezdelarubia34028 жыл бұрын
Sin duda la deuda de Chopin con autores como Hummel y Kalkbrenner es muy grande y poco reconocida. Pero Chopin sí era un gran pianista y un hombre agradecido por eso admiró a estos dos autores muchísimo y recomendó sus enseñanzas. Es importante recalcar que las orquestaciones de Hummel y Kalkbrenner son mucho más sutiles que las del propio Chopin No doubt Chopin's debt with authors like Hummel and Kalkbrenner is very large and little recognized. But Chopin himself was a great pianist and a grateful man so admired these two authors very much and recommended his teachings. Importantly orchestrations Hummel and Kalkbrenner are much more subtle than the own Chopin
@Bruce88keys8 жыл бұрын
So what, Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time
@Populous3Tutorials8 жыл бұрын
haha u took the day to comment everyone on this video, im laughing as i read comments and see u burn everyone lul
@kenbusch21398 жыл бұрын
I believe that composer's name is spelled "Schubert".
@MaestroTJS7 жыл бұрын
"Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time." Very debatable.
@hstanekovic3 жыл бұрын
While reading "A life and times Fryderyk Chopin", I drop by here to listen to some music of Kalkbrenner and I'm very, very positively surprised. Wonderful music!
@paulgreen97924 жыл бұрын
It certainly takes a conscious effort to listen to these piano concertos by the lesser known composers without prejudice. Most of us have become somewhat jaded in our outlook because we have been thoroughly persuaded by the excellence of “The Masters.” So must we be wiling to hear and receive these pieces on their own merit and respect the gift and talent of those who have, evidently, sincerely applied themselves to cultivate their unique gifts. With that being said; it is certainly to our credit to open our minds and hearts and enjoy the joy of creativity expressed by those who(in many cases) were contemporaries of the more celebrated geniuses we rightly love and admire. PWG
@DenXDuman4 ай бұрын
Based indeed!
@LukeFaulkner5 жыл бұрын
Love coming across gems like these through youtube. Great time to be a student of music!
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
Same
@halduncolak45538 жыл бұрын
0:00 Allegro maestoso 13:16 Adagio di molto 20:29 Rondo vivace
@keremugurlu71587 жыл бұрын
Teşekkürler
@zeynepy5 жыл бұрын
@@keremugurlu7158 vay be
@sircurich.curich35324 жыл бұрын
Danke schon
@GIOIS019 жыл бұрын
brillantezza, spirito, varietà tematica, varietà armonica, figurazioni ritmiche di ogni tipo... cosa si può volere di più da un concerto romantico-classico!
@paulryan75529 жыл бұрын
Kalkbrenner has always been one of my favourite composers, its a shame people dont take more of his works into their repertoire. I would love to see more chamber music and concertos of Kalkbrenners on youtube.
@paulryan75528 жыл бұрын
my music teacher played one of his works in class and since then I had been obsessed with his music. Something about it just makes me feel great.
@steinwaygrande39718 жыл бұрын
From his music teacher
@Tijaxtolan2 жыл бұрын
@@paulryan7552 ikr, he’s a pioneer on the virtuouso age of piano, a precursor to Liszt and Chopin, and a good one
@mitchelllazore84332 жыл бұрын
@@Tijaxtolan he’s so incredibly far from Liszt and Chopin listen to his opus 80 preludes I forgot any content of the piece after 2 minutes
@Tijaxtolan2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchelllazore8433 those things are on a crappy digital piano, it’s not fair to compare it to an actual one
@Amourtendresse10 ай бұрын
Magnifique, quel plaisir, l'Adagio c'est de la dentelle ! Et le Rondo vivace, idem. J'ai adoré ❣️🎶❤️ 🎶
@sousafan10011 жыл бұрын
a marvelous work by the unfamilir kalkbrenner - his mastery of the instrument and composition is evident in the score - he should be judged on his own merits - comparisons to other composers is absurd - close the eyes and open the mind (and the ears) - thanks hv
8 жыл бұрын
One simply can't hear this piece enough!
@Schubertd9604 жыл бұрын
While it's known that Chopin was greatly influenced by Kalkbrenner still crazy how easily you can map so many sections of this to Chopin's works; like the passage from 11:06 is easily recognizable in Chopin's F minor concerto
@DressedForDrowning Жыл бұрын
I can also hear a bit of Beethoven's 5th piano concerto ...
@brungilda90829 ай бұрын
Этот концерт похож больше на первый концерт Шопена. Лирическая главная партия в миноре, а разработка начинается, как и у Шопена, с мажорного проведения главной партии. (У Шопена в до мажоре.) И патетическое октавное вступление тоже, как у Шопена. Конечно, Шопен был под сильным влиянием этого автора. 😊 Единственное, что их отличает, это то, что у этого автора начало чисто польское, но дальше - все австрийское, вплоть до разработки. А у Шопена все польское. :)
@markus78942 жыл бұрын
All comments go about the composer, however, the pianist is doing a fantastic job!
@Mazurking Жыл бұрын
I agree, amazing playing.
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
good performance by hans kann
@nederlander72377 жыл бұрын
"The best pianist in Europe. The only one I am not worthy to tie his shoes of" "A giant who crushes all Herzes and Czernys underneath his feet, including myself" - Chopin in a letter to his friend Tytus Woyciechowski.
@yisroelkaplan53986 жыл бұрын
kakbrenner wanted chopin to study with him for 3 years, chopin refused and eventually graduated from his obssesion of kalkbrenner (at least to some extent)
@klop42286 жыл бұрын
Doesn't necessarily make him a better composer. Or a worse one, to be fair.
@PianoScoreVids Жыл бұрын
23:30 So simple and yet so beautiful, just great
@lantis323f10 жыл бұрын
L'ultimo movimento è qualcosa di sublime!
@tigrecontrotigre20118 жыл бұрын
Louis Moreau Gottschalk: "In 1844, then very young, I gave in Paris a soirée to which all the illustrious pianists of the period were invited, among others Kalkbrenner. I played Chopin’s concerto in E Minor, Thalberg's Fantasia on Semiramide, and a fantasia by Liszt. The next day I went to thank Kalkbrenner for having come to hear me. This attention softened a little the generally sour disposition of the old pianist, who did not forgive the new school for knowing something; he took my hand and said with the air of majestic condescension: The style is good, as for the rest there is nothing astonishing; you are my grandchild (alluding to Stamaty, who was his pupil), but for god's sake, who advised you to play such music. Chopin! I hardly pardon you; but Liszt and Thalberg, what rhapsodies! Why did you not play one of my pieces? They are beautiful, please everybody and are classical".
@paulescudero9973Ай бұрын
I love this concerto and have listened to it several times. The piano music is fabulous. Thank you.
@robertyw28824 жыл бұрын
I love the simplicity of the composition and musicality of this performance ; very nice.
@steinwaygrande39718 жыл бұрын
This is amazing . Why on earth has this piano concerto never been played by todays great pianists. Would be in awe if Valentina Lisitsa were to get her hands on this. There is a lot of Chopin and Hummel in this wonderful concerto. There is also an element of the Irish composer John Field in this as well.
@Bruce88keys8 жыл бұрын
Rubbish, there is a good reason why this shit is a dust collector.
@steinwaygrande39718 жыл бұрын
Am not concerned with your stupidity !
@Bruce88keys8 жыл бұрын
because you too absorbed in your own!
@steinwaygrande97366 жыл бұрын
Bruce Stoller is an arse hole and obviously show his total stupidity by his banal comment - if you can call it a comment.
@franniepack6 жыл бұрын
The reason why there is a lot of "Chopin" is because Kalkbrenner was Chopin's teacher.
@daniloberaldo5706 жыл бұрын
I found this piece again after more than 3 or 4 years. I love this kind of virtuosity, this inspire me. It's an great answer for my feelings, among anothers.
@dehemorg27 жыл бұрын
le dernier mouvement révèle la joie, la gaieté...c'est merveilleux
@HAEngel-cr5gp6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, HenriVieuxtemps, for sharing this with all of us. Chopin considered Maestro Kalkbrenner - "The best pianist of his time." This piece is wonderful. Kalkbrenner was a great Pianist, but not as great a composer as Chopin. During his life, Kalkbrenner experienced great loss, sadness, and other difficulties. Such was the case for dear Chopin, however, Chopin's heart, spirit, and soul was richer and more sensitive. Thus, more lyrical, tender, and human. Yet, in so many of Chopin's writings, we see Chopin's greatest talent and character- his humility. Chopin wrote of Kalkbrenner: "I am not worthy to even tie his shoelaces." Remarkable -no? Thank you again, HenriVieuxtemps.
@abeljarazoveiras48498 жыл бұрын
Excelente obra , expresiva , romántica, una belleza de composición. Buenos Aires
@mmusic61986 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing this magnificent, beautiful music! I personally love this concerto and I would be happy to learn more about this composer. Thanks again!
@sergeitretiakov52937 жыл бұрын
Одна из моих любимых композици.
@yolandaaedo2108yolalla2 жыл бұрын
Alegra el Alma escuchar estos conciertos. Gracie..
@Walterec19 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I know nothing about music which allows me to enjoy it, this piece in particular. I feel rather sorry for the highly educated musicologists who do not seem to be able to enjoy any of it.
@MartinBlack9 жыл бұрын
Walterec1 well said!
@catherineanstett97089 жыл бұрын
Very very well said !
@moritzlaurer83929 жыл бұрын
what do you mean with that?
@moritzlaurer83929 жыл бұрын
+maestoso-allegro I am one of these nit picky guys, and I have to say, this concerto is nothing special, nothing original, nothing that's really worth mentioning when talking about masterpieces. However it's still nice and enjoyable.
@Uragaan18 жыл бұрын
+maestoso-allegro This is all very subjective, but this concerto really is just boring and doesn't seem like it has much to say. Mendelssohn's piano concerto no.1, while not having as much depth as say Beethoven's concertos, is at the very least enjoyable to listen to. It has a high energy opening that is second to none and extremely beautiful lyrical moments scattered throughout the first and second movement. The Kalkbrenner concerto seems to be a compilation of all the piano techniques without any interesting musical ideas
@НадеждаРачковская-т6щ2 жыл бұрын
Как жаль, что эта чудесная музыка почти забыта и не исполняется. Благодарность моя исполнителям этого чуда. Хочется ещё слушать музыку прошлого, редко исполняемую и незаслуженно забытую.
@nrg_warrior45 Жыл бұрын
Правда Один из лучших концертов для фортепиано по моему мнению. Интересный факт: Это пьеса было вдохновлена концертом Шопэна, что можно и услышать
@pianorandi Жыл бұрын
@@nrg_warrior45It was composed years before Chopins concertos.
@АлександрЯрков-ш2з4 жыл бұрын
Bravo grandiose genial concerto super music
@jeglop4 ай бұрын
The crossed out score in the beginning nearly gave me a heart attack thinking my phone screen cracked. 😂 Chopin played this to friends during summer vacations when he was 14 y.o., he wrote in a letter to his family about it.
@tepmich6 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest examples of nobility and understanding kind condescension !!! Tepper Michael.
@tepmich6 жыл бұрын
Eines der größten Beispiele für Adel und Verständnis der Herablassung !!! Tepper Michael.
@johnwallace77215 жыл бұрын
Touching moments of sensitive lyricism surrounded by a great deal of hollow virtuosity.
@affreuxjojo24233 жыл бұрын
Very well said. I agree wholeheartedly.
@jimwinchester3393 ай бұрын
I was kind of waiting for somebody else to say it. That's why I kept myself to "Wow - difficult!" above. But I have to agree.
@larryhagemann55486 жыл бұрын
I'm exhausted just watching the score. Wonderful.
@federicoroll9 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, that's in full romantic period 1800-1850. Hummel, Kalkbrenner, Chopin and other composers from that ages are envolved in a circle of similar structures,phrases and emotions. It's seems chopin, it seems others; by the way, each one give to his compositions and at least to us, in ours days, the privilege of a true experience to reach our souls. I love chopin concertos, I know every single note of them, and when I listen other composers from that ages and reminds me Chopin, I only can smile. Chopin itself in his letters wrote a lot of his work, he hope that can satisfy his public; a true sense of modesty. ( sorry for my english,I'm italian)
@Bruce88keys8 жыл бұрын
No one did it better than Chopin
@wendyu.tinkle67678 жыл бұрын
Stop trolling.
@JohannesC-c9k7 ай бұрын
I love this concerto.
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
Same
@jeanaprea82166 жыл бұрын
excellent concerto joli morceau a ecouter tres souvant!
@herrbrucvald63768 жыл бұрын
Chopin E-minor concerto much? This concerto is very beautiful and a masterpiece of sorts. I don't care what others think, so be it... One can see how Kalkbrenner has taken the proto-Romanticism of the Mozart/Beethoven school and pushed it further to suit his own ends... He deserves credit.
@Walterec18 жыл бұрын
A year later and I still like it. Perhaps I should seek some counseling.
@johnniejohn-jack76108 жыл бұрын
Why ruin a good thing ? Mental Health is over-rated!
@thomaspetrie18548 жыл бұрын
There might e a medication for this condition you have! I've suffered from it since I was five years old! So far, NOTHING has helped--I still love classical music and yes, this piece too--simply awesome!
@andrews5828 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be cured of this "condition."
@harrylevy59356 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed listening to this concerto. Beautifully played and as good as any other classical piece that I have listened to.
@cubanm813 жыл бұрын
First time I hear this concerto, I love it.
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
Same
@adalbertogomesdossantos45454 жыл бұрын
Realmente está entre as mais lindas composições pra piano!
@adalbertogomesdossantos45454 жыл бұрын
Muito lindo demais esse concerto! Achei vibrante e alegre!
@anniegrice24257 жыл бұрын
I hope all of those critics on here can play this... doubt it..... !! and I personally enjoy it, and that is what music is about, how it affects the individual. I would say that this music speaks, and that is all that is important.......
@hervinbalfour924410 жыл бұрын
This sounds like it could easily belong to Chopin's concerto catalogue. It's beautiful!
@jeffgrigsbyjonesАй бұрын
For context, 1823 is the same year that Beethoven published his Diabelli Variations. The piece that is generally considered to have germinated the Romantic style - Weber's Invitation to the Dance - was from 1819. Kalkbrenner's style represents the crossroads where people were trying to figure out what direction music would go in, but he also represents the continuation and evolution of the improvisatory tradition of Mozart. The harmonic innovation of Chopin and the no-holds-barred virtuosity of Liszt were not in the picture yet. Critics, then and now, called his themes vapid. Okay, he wasn't as gifted of a melodist as Mozart. Who else was?
@andreecasman72107 жыл бұрын
J'aime beaucoup et c'est une découverte pour moi.
@ZKLofiTone2 жыл бұрын
00:02 Movement 1 : Allegro maestoso 13:18 Movement 2 : Adagio di molto 20:30 Movement 3 : Rondo vivace
@theopaopa17 жыл бұрын
buenisimo. desconocia a este compositor ... gracias !
Wow, the adagio is absurdly amazing! Utterly transcendentally peaceful.
@teunvandesteeg78367 жыл бұрын
It is so well-played and so clean in the right sense of the word, I enjoyed it!
@nimrodshefer36495 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing concerto
@pianorandi Жыл бұрын
This is wonderful music, in it’s own right. It could have been more known…Anyway, I’m happy to have discovered it.
@ДастанИбрагим-б8ь5 жыл бұрын
06:48 - 08:15 My favourite fragment 😍
@Jojotonks10 жыл бұрын
The Lord preserve us from music snobs, particularly when they use bad language. I for one am very glad this highly enjoyable concerto has been preserved whatever the "judgement of history" may decree, and however "musically poor" it is in the eyes (ears?) of someone with a degree in piano performance. I am glad there are some open-minded people who also enjoy it. I have just discovered this composer through the sort-of-autobiography (La Musica è Pericolosa) of Nicola Piovani, a brilliant pianist and composer of the music for the film "Life is Beautiful" and many other Italian films. A music-lover since his teens when a present of the Goldberg Variations set him off on his musical journey, he values all kinds of music, from Yael Naim, through Verdi to Bach. As he says "There's a time to listen in silence to Bach and a time to dance a samba". Emphatically NOT a music snob. I was a music snob 50 years ago. Thank God I've grown out of it.
@PauloCesarMaiadeAguiar5 жыл бұрын
Amazing Dear Many thanks for to share this dear Fantastic
@dirkmannekens3 ай бұрын
Wat een prachtig concerto is dat toch ! 🙏
@194642888 жыл бұрын
Brillante, intenso, coinvolgente.
@patrizialauraf8 жыл бұрын
ottimamente eseguito...un esempio pieno del pianismo e della sonorità romantica...e colmo di pathos
@alexcarracini61687 жыл бұрын
Bella esecuzione di un concerto di K., che fu insegnante di Chopin e grazie per la partitura, preziosa per seguirlo. ♡
@georgetowner366811 ай бұрын
Good listening, The keyboard fireworks convey hints of Chopin, but the overall effect is melodic and satisfying. Sample: 27:58-end.
@sskreechiest91449 ай бұрын
The piece is actually composed 7 years before chopin's concerto but Chopin's Concerto itself dedicated it to Kalkbrenner itself
11 жыл бұрын
A brilliant underestimated composer, one of my favorite pieces.
@中野萌華8 жыл бұрын
I've never known about him. Sounds like he is a well-known in many ways😄 I really liked this.
@mrsnegy60016 ай бұрын
All these professional comments.. I am here to listen and enjoy. Beautiful concerto, period.
@massimo55264 жыл бұрын
DIVINO !
@TonyKnutsson3 жыл бұрын
Incredible pianist!
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
yeah, kann did a good job
@paulprocopolisАй бұрын
I enjoyed it, especially the first movement. I haven't heard the name 'Hans Kann' since I was a teenager many, many years ago!
@MedievalRichard8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful.
@mindstudies83705 жыл бұрын
This is a perfectly charming piece. Not a masterpiece, but an accomplished effort, well beyond an amateur standard.
@VFomalhaut8 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing this music dude!
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
This piece makes me want to listen to it
@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading!
@Luffy_solador-z7q4 ай бұрын
É notório os traços da influência de hummel nesse concerto, simplesmente divino
@아트라이프-g1b3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful shape of sound, this piece shows what piano can do over other instruments.
@ahmetfarukdai46627 жыл бұрын
Howard Shelley (piano), Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra, Howard Shelley (conductor)
@yowzephyr Жыл бұрын
You are saying who is performing this work here, correct? Or are you recommending some other performance?
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
@@yowzephyr Hans kann is the soloist, the hamburg symphony orchestra is conducted by heribert beissel
@adalbertogomesdossantos4545 Жыл бұрын
Brilhante! Que concerto maravilhoso!
@miguelmendizabalcontreras97713 жыл бұрын
Gracias por siempre abuela.
@robertoverby76432 жыл бұрын
That was amazing to hear and crazy to try to follow as it moved along!
@antonczerny6 жыл бұрын
He disfrutado muchísimo el segundo movimiento. :+)
@Xyriak28 күн бұрын
Conscious listen.
@jeromechristophe2795 Жыл бұрын
Beautifull, stunning, amazing !
@GeertVercruysse4 жыл бұрын
do I hear Chopin piano Concerto No.1...WOW great performence as well...enjoyed each moment of it...
@brungilda90829 ай бұрын
Первая часть главная партия и ее звучаеие в разработке в мажоре - вообще, как под копирку! 😊
@torsten-eil-klavier7 жыл бұрын
great, great, great !!!!!!!!!!
@farrelpermadi54714 жыл бұрын
First time I can see you upload Piano Piece
@yowzephyrАй бұрын
Don't feel bad for Kalkbrenner that he's not more famous today. He was enormously rich. He didn't need future fame. Actually no one needs it.
@gregorypalmer54032 жыл бұрын
We can quibble about this and that but it remains that we should remember, purchase , and play more of Kalkbrenner's music. He had some genuine things to say in his music. And he was extremely important in his day so the well educated person will listen to his music to put him and more famous others in true context.
@magbag706 жыл бұрын
Well, some parts are better than others but it's an interesting work and helps contextualize the development of romantic piano concert
@jarthurpaxton92238 ай бұрын
Dees iz zah gveatest composition yoo have nevah herd ov!
@TheJujunick7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@harald14410 жыл бұрын
He wrote tremendous amounts of music, and sadly almost nothing has survived.. He considered himself to be "The last classical composer" and on the same height as Beethoven and Haydn
@peterjg676 жыл бұрын
Obscurity awaits for those who don't have a snappy memorable name.
@danielhornby55814 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Some of the writing in this is absolutely glorious, particularly for the piano. You would argue that the orchestral writing, whilst not especially ambitious, is superior to Chopin’s as well. But, I guess history chooses its canon for whatever reason.
@milton32043 жыл бұрын
You two are such contrarians. "Snappy memorable name, history chooses its canon for whatever reason." You two are actually going to pretend Chopin's ouvre isn't superior to Kalkbrenner's. Lmao
@r0mmm3 жыл бұрын
His name in german translated means "chalkburner"
@brungilda90829 ай бұрын
@@danielhornby5581к сожалению, у Шопена, при всей гениальности первого фортепианного концерта, очень плохая оркестровка. 😢 Времени все не хватает переделать. 😂 А так хочется! Особенно коду первой части первого фортепианного концерта. Ну, зачем он там заставил тянуть основную тему одинокий кларнет? Я все время задают этим вопросом. Но вот, подумав, потом поняла, зачем он так написал. Дело в том, что первый концерт Шопен посвятил одной певице, в которую влюбился. И вот это кода с одиноким кларнетом, звучит, как вопрос к своей возлюбленной. Я это понимаю именно так. Как тонкий намёк. Но переписать оркестррвку все равно хочется! Возлюбленная, конечно, главнее, но кода должна все-таки достойно звучать. 😂
@plto4ka7111 жыл бұрын
amazing concert, good for performers
@guygelinas87127 жыл бұрын
very good piano Concerto
@MegaCirse7 жыл бұрын
Listen this, abolish the surge of noises and images of everyday life in order to open the space of a place where contingency and representation give way to the immateriality of the sensible. Once the door is closed on agitation of the world, an underlying silence sets in, a slowness seizes preludes to a dilation of perception and consciousness. The expressive power of the sound architecture breaks with any form of transcription of the real to attach itself to the expression of an elusive universe. Colors and rhythm of these compositions is a language that gives voice to exaltation!
@faustocarboni60843 жыл бұрын
gracias a los comentarios pude redescubrir este compositor, impresionado¡ desde Buenos Aires
@carolrenandez19909 жыл бұрын
HERMOSO CONCIERTO COMO TANTOS QUE HAY .
@Dylonely_92742 жыл бұрын
Great pianist great performance great composer
@ZKLofiTone2 жыл бұрын
heyyy just discovered this, you too?
@Dylonely_92742 жыл бұрын
@@ZKLofiTone yeah
@josephwagner7277 Жыл бұрын
@@Dylonely_9274hee hee hee ha
@ChipsomedipАй бұрын
Yep. All the big things are incredible, this might as well be one the greatest piano concerti
@speterkar10 жыл бұрын
I find this very interesting, because some sequences directly remind one of the Chopin contertos, however, with less atmosphere and invention, a little less beauty, and, although the Chopen concerts are not really the pinnacles of piano concertos, this is still intended to be a big praise as Chopin is one of my favourites. Thanks for posting it, I will go on to listen to others as well.
@ngelgun7 жыл бұрын
dear musiclovers, please think that, when Kalkbrenner composed this concerto, Chopin , might be a baby inhis mothre's arms.. so please try not to compare each other =D