Henry Kissinger’s Crimes Against Humanity Should Not Be Celebrated

This week on Pod Save The World, Ben Rhodes and Tommy Vietor talk about a blockbuster report that Ukraine bombed the Nordstream natural gas pipelines, the bombing of a dam in Ukraine, accountability for the assassination of Haiti’s president, CIA Director Bill Burns goes to China, Saudi Arabia and sportswashing, Henry Kissinger’s human rights record and accountability in Washington, Trump’s classified documents woes, media restrictions in Pakistan, nukes in Iran, reports that school girls were poisoned in Afghanistan, and British PM Rishi Sunak goes to a baseball game. Then Ben talks with Tim Mak, founder of The Counteroffensive and a Crooked Contributor about life in Ukraine and the coming counteroffensive.
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
3:15 - Nordstream pipelines & Ukraine War
16:48 - Ad break
21:01 - Assassination of Haiti’s president
24:10 - Bill Burns' trip to China
29:20 - PGA & LIV merger
36:40 - Ad break
40:25 - Henry Kissinger
57:00 - Trump's classified docs
1:02:15 - Iran's Nuclear site
1:08:39 - Tim Mak interview
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[@sahandyman4319]

"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel peace prize" - Tom Lehrer

[@samuelrodgers2742]

Drone king Barack Obama also won the Nobel Peace Prize

[@johnw3772]

​@@samuelrodgers2742 you'd hear them acknowledge that if you bothered listening to the video you're commenting on

[@SilortheBlade]

@@samuelrodgers2742 The peace price for both was absolute BS and shows how meaningless the award is. That said, there is a large difference between targeted drone strikes (which are still bad and i condemn) and carpet bombing a country where HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIED. Your whataboutism is pathetic. You don't give a F&^# about any of the people who died in either instance. This is just a political football you want to throw which is why your are worthless. I only wish I could meet you in person so I could drag you through some of these areas and make you experience the results first hand.

[@ExhaustedWombat]

@@samuelrodgers2742 yeah, that was also goofy as shit. What is your point?

[@redheadredemption1573]

"Many critics weren't even alive at the time of the events in question." I wasn't around during the Holocaust, but I know that was an atrocity.

[@ArtGirl82]

Exactly! That man has committed war crimes, had a direct hand in more then one genocide and severely damaged the US's international standing with his actions. Not only did they undercut young people on his behalf and implied they're ignorant about what he did to half the countries in East Asia and South America, but they couldn't even ask a hard follow up question and hold him to account, when he deflected. Just because he's turning 100, doesn't mean the piece of shit should get a pass.

[@tamugray2650]

you know who who knew... the young people in the u.s. who were alive at the time protesting the war,including john kerry. fuck kissinger. my own parents at time hated that guy and i am 70 years old. thanks guys for keeping the truth alive

[@inthehouse1960]

That clip of Kissinger was a classic example of DARVO - the reaction of toxic, dangerous people when confronted with their actions. It stands for DENY, ATTACK, and reverse VICTIM AND OFFENDER. That clip revealed how sick and twisted his mind was and continues to be. How dare he accuse his opponent's emotional reactions as ignorant. This a perfect example of the kind of monster it takes to glibly order the deaths of millions of people. He should be tried for war crimes and not celebrated as some kind of hero. Thank you for speaking the truth on this.

[@andrewmastin4312]

Kissinger’s primary defense to Koppel was that the Vietnam War happened a long time ago. I would’ve thrown that right back at him - “so you’re saying that what Hitler and the Nazis did was fine, because it happened over 80 years ago.”

[@DrEsky914]

a decent human being would say "that was a reflection of their.. humanity" but he used the work "ignorance". What a B***ard. I am old enough to remember his crimes as well. I have unfortunately lived through a lot of greed and ignorant selfish behavior from the politicians and a lot of death.

[@FakingANerve]

Or just, "This is your legacy... what do _you_ think you're known for?"

[@rq2757]

100 years old and still absolutely shameless. That Ted Koppel interview is infuriating.

[@janedoe-yu1di]

Ben did a great job of ripping apart Kissinger. I’m someone who was alive then, and I cried in anger and sadness for the people when I found out about the secret bombing.

[@movingforwardLDTH]

+++ Same!

[@MAC-op5fc]

As always. great discussion. Ben's commentary on Kissinger was so smart and very informative. His anger and emotion were spot on.

[@mmlas8683]

I’ve never seen Ben so angry during the Kissinger segment. Great show today.

[@naylas3908]

Really? Watch his rant about Netanyahu. 😂😉

[@WhiteManBehindADesk]

As a New Zealander, honestly remarkable to hear Americans talk frankly about their foreign policy failings.

[@admiralfrancis8424]

I really hope this becomes more and more normalized.

[@merriferrell2818]

Chomsky and Hitchens both wrote about East Timor

[@cbpd89]

I don't know how many Americans know exactly how... aggressive American foreign policy really is and has been, but those of us that know aren't afraid to call it out.

[@duanewaihi4453]

I am from NZ and living in the U.S. It is not that unusual. They are open to criticism, particularly regarding events from decades ago. Regrettably, we have yet to internalize certain lessons, leading us to perpetuate the same errors in judgment.

[@Strux42]

Lots of us do, but you won't hear it often from establishment shills like this

[@travishindman9362]

The fact that Kissinger is alive and Mike Gravel is dead is a disgrace to this country.

[@Beretta249]

Same, and Christopher Hitchens.

[@admiralfrancis8424]

@@Beretta249 Christopher Hitchens is not a perfect example, he supported the Iraq War.

[@ViolentOrchid]

'Everyone else is doing it, and it was a long time ago, so my actions aren't bad.' What a dishonest peice of trash.

[@Nicholas_Burmeister]

Top marks to Tim Mak for his nuanced observations, and the granular detail about how things are going in Uk. Let´s keep him about, shall we?

[@abbiedivine]

Great pod as always. Thank you for the Kissinger section because we need to talk more about his foreign policy record. "I got my heart broken by Goose." Same Tommy and Ben. Same.

[@brianr6651]

I graduated HS in 2013, just to set the generation stage, and in high school we had a specific class called “Americas Role in Vietnam”. We learned everything and it was NOT GREAT. So I don’t want older people saying younger people don’t understand

[@marstoes]

Tim Mak is so amazing. Thank you for highlighting his great work.

[@aidanmargarson8910]

I was at uni in the mature-age student's room .. a friend was doing her honors thesis on Kissenger and she came in one day and threw his biography across the room into a wall .. which basically says all you need to know about the guy

[@bananaempijama]

Kissinger...not even the Devil wants to deal with him.

[@SpiritOfMontgomery]

Cause he knows that when Hank croaks, Satan will be out of a job

[@colorswordsandlearning]

Thank you for that caption and that segment on Kissinger.. and that bit about Drone strike.. He is a war criminal and should be tried as such.Period. Awesome pod..🎉

[@corinnapetry65]

Thank you Ben for the clarity (and the false equivalencies) on Kissinger's record.

[@KedgeDragon]

I was alive when Kissinger committed the crimes - I have NOT forgotten, not forgiven. Friends and relatives died to feed this ego-maniacs delusions.

[@soubhikmishra]

As a Bengali from West Bengal, India here's my piece of mind about cunning Kissinger in the context of Bangladesh Liberation War ... Two faced Kissinger, crooked Nixon, couldn't do anything but cry.

[@taylormclain4017]

looking at all the horrendous crimes against the ukraine people, you can't blame ukraine for doing whatever they need to do to protect themselves

[@brianr6651]

That’s where I fall too. Like I think it would’ve been good to talk that through but Ukraine is under literal attack so I don’t blame them.

[@mythreepants]

You can if they shoot themselves in the foot

[@aslandus]

To be fair, it's less a concern about them doing bad things, and more that it implies bad things about Ukraine's leadership that could make it harder to convince others to support them. If upper levels knew and supported the pipeline destruction, then they were willing to make a dubious decision then boldly lie about it to the media and every foreign power they negotiated with. If they didn't know, it implies a lack of control that could lead to problems and disloyalty as the war drags on. In either case, while it may have given them some advantage by cutting off Russia's economy and effectively shooting the hostage of Europe's fuel supply to prevent Putin using it as leverage, and while big powers like the US will likely support them either way, it'll make a lot of countries far more skeptical about continuing to send them support...

[@specialK319319]

Thank you for saying this. I'm a Ukrainian American and while I understand Ukraine has to take the moral high ground here and I hope they didn't do the Nord stream pipeline, short of that I'm beyond tired of the "leash" that the west is putting on them. What escalation is Putin going to do? It's easy to sit over here in the west talking about how you don't want them to X, but when your country is being bombed daily, your friends/family dying daily you can't just sit back and take the moral high ground all the time. It's not an option. We didn't want this war and war sucks, do you really think Ukraine can be overtly open about everything when their very existence is being challenged? I'm disappointed by the tone of their discussion. They didn't blow up the dam, most information including US intel says it's Russia. Ukraine has much, much to lose over the dam. Crimea can get water from else where and even then Russian occupied parts of Ukraine are still filled with... Ukrainians. There is no rational reason why Ukraine would bomb the dam.

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

@@aslandus I don't buy Ukraine doing it, the timing is wrong and any Ukrainian good enough to pull it off would also be too smart to make such a smooth brain move. Russia was already throwing every excuse to not deliver gas. By the time it was blown up the gas had stopped for quite a while, EU had achieved its gas goals and the LNG terminals were on schedule. Russia blew it up because EU called the bluff. The pipe was already irrelevant. If it was Ukraine shooting the hostage, it didn't work as it was months later before the German's finally freed the Leopards. That indicated for Germany it wasn't about the gas, it was them being Germany.

[@KateColors]

Wow! So much packed in here; I'll have to listen again to recount my thoughts and feelings that came up for each topic. Two things I know up front: 1) Condemn Kissinger to Hell immediately and 2) Poisoning girls and women throughout the World either physically or metaphorically tells you where all the bullies live--Letting their ideology prosper is a self-fulfilling legacy because... after they've annihilated us, who's left to extinguish? A third thing, a. I loved golf; b. I was livid when Mickelson and the others took the bribe to play in the LIV(id) tournament--making me despise golf and those golfers; c. Out of the 19 people involved in the 9/11 attacks, FIFTEEN are Saudis; and, d. Shame on the PGA for selling out and defecting-- now I ABSOLUTELY HATE GOLF. Golf and any other limb of the Saudis amass from this country should be boycotted and the U.S. should absolutely bite the hands of these despots. We can survive without them. That's it. Off to follow your guest. Thank you.

[@heatherc2939]

Well said Kate! ❤

[@catherinereynolds9644]

Fabulous and awful content. Thank you, trusted truth tellers☮️💜

[@mollieholiday3379]

Update: Top footballer Lionel MESSI (and his wife, Antonela Roccuzzo) said "NO" to the Saudi's; "YES" to the USA. Messi said, “The truth is that my decision was for another reason and not because of money.”

[@nessamaine]

One of my main sources for World News… Thank You, Gentlemen!

[@orctowngrot8842]

You must be left handed. Having your drink so near the laptop disturbed my mind the entire time. One emotive expression and bye bye circuits!

[@VirginiaBronson]

For once, a compelling interview! Good episode overall.

[@lauriehammers4686]

Nice interview with Tim Mak.

[@marycarter3972]

Thanks!

[@curtisdush5686]

Excellent show as always! 🌟👏🤞

[@Beretta249]

People should read "The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by Christopher Hitchens. Basically covers the topic.

[@admiralfrancis8424]

You should also see the new report by The Intercept.

[@iceborn698]

You are the best pod in US!

[@joyaroy8532]

We had many Cambodian and Vietnamese students living in our house in New Delhi in 1969-7O who never saw their families again . I can tell you they were traumatised for life. They couldn't even eat anything nice alone because they'd think of their mother or father or brother, sister, or grandparent who were missing or who they would never see again.

[@MsIs3]

This podcast always makes my BA in International Relations seem useful LOL. Fantastic as always!

[@kerlyenai]

True evil never dies it seems.

[@gyeltsen]

The Trial of Henry Kissinger by Christopher Hitchens, published 2001.

[@wl7915]

champagne popping day, cheers rest of mankind

[@KedgeDragon]

The First Casualty

[@leannesmith3480]

Have you folks considered having Noam Chomsky on your podcast? Please do.

[@mariellouise1]

Does anyone remember the TV show “Mission Impossible “? That show haunts my memory.

[@raghailligh1080]

Excellent point. As a child (6-10, I think), I barely understood the show's plot machinations, and of course, America was always in the right to middle-class suburbanites like my parents back then. After years of digesting all the crap the U.S. did to other countries, especially by Kissinger and his predecessors, that show is chilling, with its weekly cavalier subterfuge that often led to a coup d'etat at the end. One must wonder at the insidious effect such 'entertainment' has on a populace, essentially inuring American to the undemocratic and immoral actions of our government, and thus making them ultimately more acceptable. This is akin to the effect that some sociologists have pointed out in regard to TV police shows, wherein the cops are always 'the good guys', and any mention of an individual's rights is demonized and derided as an inconvenience. The resulting desensitizing of the viewing public imperils all our freedom and exacerbates the continuing abuse of authority. For all the right-wing crying about Hollywood, the entertainment industry bears a lot responsibility for incubating deep authoritarian impulses in our society.

[@mariellouise1]

Thank you for your astute comment. With all the men who fought in WWII as our fathers, uncles and neighbors, i believe as children we thought that America was always virtuous and victorious. As “Mission Impossible” was framed as a fight against Communism the stories then appeared justified. However, my dad who fought in North Africa and Italy, thought that McCarthy and the House of UnAmerican Committee was a disgrace.

[@alicemerray]

I loved it but I was about 8 and *really* wasn't getting the subtext. It was just people being clever to help someone in trouble. More recent viewing was more problematic, as I spotted all the many and various issues. It did engender a lasting love of 'caper' movies and TV though.

[@jessedunn1888]

Go off Ben

[@lukeridings136]

Killer show 😉

[@BwInNewJersey]

Love all the guys but Tommy is the one.

[@GrandPaladin]

totally agree

[@JohnJakeWilliam]

THE insurrectionist is now a ringleader of the PGA-LIV. Think on that for a while.

[@thomthom6268]

Yay. We gotta Ben rant.

[@rp7r54]

“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” - Henry Kissinger LOOK AT SADDAM HUSSEIN, THE KURDS. UKRAINE, ETC

[@titaniumteddybear]

Well, the title checks out...

[@npeliroja89]

Is he still alive out of spite?

[@Surax]

He literally bathed in the blood of Cambodian children.

[@GodzillaMonsters8]

Maybe so, and paraphrasing when Lewis Black said terrible people live forever (I forget the actual quote).

[@brianr6651]

Who tf is he?

[@davidobriend8560]

​@@brianr6651 national security advisor during the Nixon presidency. However, he was the most powerful national security advisor in us history. He was responsible for us policy and military strategy for Vietnam. He personally ordered a lot of airstrikes in Laos and Cambodia, which were kept classified to the ppl of the us for a long time.

[@brianr6651]

@@davidobriend8560 I know who he is, I was more saying that as a catty quip. But you aren't wrong and he's a monster!

[@Fanney47]

I don't know all the media stuff you follow about Ukraine but like I recommend some of the local stuff like Kyiv Independant and stuff. Maybe also like talk to Ukranians, not just U.S people (or other foreigners) who have spent time there or in Russia (so not the same). I'm not trying to be a pain here, but sometimes your guys views get very colored by U.S attitudes (I know, I know this is a u.s podcast etc but still lol). Sometimes there aren't two sides to everything which I felt your start is a bit both side-ism. Some one "source" claims this thing was an idea & people just so ready to jump on board that Ukranians must have done it because apparently they'd be that stupid, but Russians aren't? 🥴🥴🥴 It's not like they were digging trenches or something in CHORNOBYL earlier in this war like they had no idea or maybe didn't even care people would get sick. 🤦

[@evsalia]

Thank you. I used to listen to them a lot more. But their both side - ism on Ukraine became too infuriating.

[@Fanney47]

@@evsalia 🫂

[@trinleywangmo]

Yeah... like "James Bond" a hand full of divers took a rental boat to sabotage the pipelines... Come on! Even a Wired article (Online Sleuths Untangle the Mystery of the Nord Stream Sabotage by Matt Burgess, March 20, 2023) reported: "Kaarsbo [former Danish Intelligence] says, adding the attacks look highly complex and would likely be 'very hard to pull off without it being a state actor or at least with state sponsorship.'" Even last March the German investigators were still reporting it as a "false flag" operation deemed to place blame on the Ukrainians. Given that Russians have lived in the Ukraine for a long time, it's possible they "appeared" to be "pro-Ukrainian" but ultimately, the only beneficiary of this event was ultimately Russia (and other oil-selling nations) since it drove the price of gas/oil here in Europe through the roof... causing economic hardship for all of us. It also doesn't add up, when just a few months earlier, the Russians were floating around the North Sea with nuclear capable u-boats... threatening fisherman off the coast of Ireland, even. Seems all too suspicious.

[@lucibjlb]

As a fan of golf, I'm sickened by the move. I heard recently on NPR that most American golfers or fans, don't really care. Not true. Golf is all about integrity. This completely stinks.

[@jackcrassus168]

“Trials of Henry Kissinger” is essential reading, by Christopher Hitchens

[@aguynamednick]

LOL 'Until people care about something more than money' So... never?

[@thomasjefferson1010]

He was Machiavellian .

[@ryanb9526]

PGA and LIV merge ... reason #57 not to watch golf! 🤬

[@DarkBrandonForever]

Does evil live forever??🤔

[@alicemerray]

I'm watching this after the event and apparently Sunak wimped out and didn't even try to throw the first pitch. Which is totally what I (a UK resident) expected. He IS a wimp.

[@ishanparasher7779]

I read an article in CNN that publicly the Admin is against attacks in Russia but privately they’re much less apprehensive, even supportive of such strikes.

[@SusanOnTVShows]

Your kids? You don't have to wait that long. People are already criticizing Obama's use of drones.

[@mollieholiday3379]

Kissinger 👎 was bad for the US, bad for ... well, every country he touched on every continent of the world (except Israel, of course, and no one can spin our press like them). Congrats, and good call, PSW.

[@manusmambon2]

If Kissinger is the most powerful figure of US foreign policy, what says that about US foreign policy?

[@ianwynne764]

Hello Gentlemen: I have spent time in Chile. It is a deeply broken society. In the 1990's I met a guy who had been tortured by the Pinochet regime.

[@alicemerray]

As with football (soccer) and the World Cup or teams that these unpleasant people have bought, the ONLY thing they will understand is if people STOP WATCHING. I know people love sports (tbh I don't) but the money from tickets and so on is ALL these people want. If fans stop supporting them, they fall. At some point you have to decide if fellow humans mean more to you than a few hours watching sport.

[@peterford9369]

It surly seems pretty selfish for Ukraine to do things that would hurt any allies, while begging for aid from those allies. But in war there are small groups that may break away from the leaders and do things behind the backs of the leadership either with or without the blessings of the leadership. Going into Russia is one thing, damaging pipelines to other countries is another. But! I'll tell you what. Tell me you're going to just sit back and watch your people killed daily, your homes and lands destroyed daily, and not do everything possible to stop it. We talk from a secure, safe, free, environment. Not in a room where just minutes ago, a Russian missile just killed many and destroyed the building. When all we have to worry about is tooth brightness. It's pretty easy to judge.

[@joyaroy8532]

Then why did the Polish MP say "Thank you, USA.," as soon as the deed was done? And why did a Baltic PM refuse to disclose their findings stating "National Security" Reasons? Who are these podcasters working for?

[@merriferrell2818]

Christopher Hitchens The Crimes of Henry Kissinger

[@tiat.5814]

What’s the point of mentioning Henry Kissinger is a friend coupled with the cozy picture and endearing nickname “Hank”, if you’re going to condemn his actions? Idk it just confused me. I wouldn’t openly admit to being friends with a war criminal I disagree with. 0:10

[@NurseGirlT]

They were being sarcastic.

[@manojthaker3678]

Kissinger or Deathsinger.

[@Billy01113]

"Nothing matters, because they have the money to win." Well, seen form a European vantage, that is US business culture in a nut shell, and has been for decades, who do you think MBS learned that from 😉

[@shadebug]

Imagine, for a moment, that somebody said that something had been “posted to social media site slack“. That’s what you sound like talking about discord.

[@mjgenualdi22]

Would Russia cause their own sabotage?

[@mshepard2264]

If i was the Ukrainians I would also want the nord stream pipeline out of commission. There was a serious chance that the European countries would have undermined sanctions to keep importing Russian gas. The Ukrainians were loosing thousands of people and being shelled constantly.

[@lyledal]

MBS is correct. At the end of the day, everybody *IS* for sale. Write a big enough check, and you can own anything and anyone you want.

[@mollieholiday3379]

Apparently NOT Lionel and Antonela MESSI!!! They said "NO".

[@cbpd89]

I'd like to think my integrity doesn't have a price tag, but I guess I'll just have to wait for MBS to offer me many millions of dollars to find out.

[@lynleygilchrist7703]

Little disappointed in this episode, guys- I hate to say it but it’s true. I think the reporting about the fact that US Intelligence knew about the discord leaks for a while before the story was reported is supportive of the idea that the info the guy was leaking wasn’t necessarily accurate- after all, we are talking a major war in Europe. The timing (right along side the sabotage of the dam) of the report to me suggests perhaps a well-executed information operation…

[@alienmozart9902]

At first I thought it was a bit much to ask a 100 year old anything more than puff questions, but now I do understand. I would love to hear from an expert if that man is gonna be spending a little time in hell.

[@b991228]

How many of us were alive when our cotton was picked by slaves? How many of us are still dealing that travesty that happened years before we were born?

[@lauraw.7008]

I agree that we should not celebrate H.K.

[@matthewbentley7033]

I bet Kissinger outlives you both

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

War criminal Kissinger. I'd like to hear from Malcolm Nance.

[@pdebourque9110]

The flaw in this argument is that Ben is JUST prosecuting Kissinger. Everybody should read Jonathan Kwitney's book, 'Endless Enemies, The Making of an Unfriendly World; most interesting book - published in 1984 - because Kwitney was a conservative journalist who set out to write a book about 'American Exceptionalism' but once he found the truth of Angola, Chad, Nicaragua, Chile et. al. he wrote the hard truth. And by the by, an almost completely undocumented fact, the U.S. had special ops on the ground under Ike in 1958.

[@welles28]

Not sure how that's a "flaw". Kissinger is still alive and can therefore still (theoretically) be prosecuted as the war criminal that he is. Allen Dulles and his enablers are not.

[@jackiebinns6205]

Duh ! What was your first clue ! Geeezzz its been comon knowledge for decades !

[@angies.7689]

It is irresponsible to give credence to any of these “reports” on who may have blown up the pipeline esp. because we do not know the motives of the people who have amassed the so-called ‘information’. Maybe the authors resented having their countries give any money and resources to Ukraine and having to bear energy shortfalls so they cooked up this report to make it look like the Ukrainians did it. Certainly if you look at the circumspect language of the thing it gives you pause. These type of passages say things like ‘people associated to a company in Poland that was originally owned by two Ukrainians’ and ‘residue of explosives like the type used to blow up the pipeline’. Like, what? It all seems so couched and sketchy and very dubious. There is nothing at all concrete in this messaging and even the way it was “uncovered” looks and smells like some sort of PsyOp. I don’t think people realize how specialized something like this would’ve been to pull off and quite frankly I don’t believe Ukrainian forces would’ve had the ability to do it at the time, and probably still do not.

[@stitchcrafter]

I csn see why Ukrainians are maybe starting to paint outside the box when they have suffered so much destruction & carnage. And, are living thru hundreds of missiles being flung at them nightly...They have to be feeling somewhat desperate..I don't blame them one bit.

[@TheLemonMeteor]

“Nordstrom pipeline”

[@pdebourque9110]

And Boys, what about the broader issue of American historical revisionism; southeast Asia is only the thin edge of the wedge.

[@TheMacCloud]

if the recent revelations about nordstream colours your perspective on the facts and the potential positives vs negatives for both sides in the destruction of the dam and reservoir downstream of zaporizhia then im particularly concerned about your two's capacity to be objective about news in general :S

[@ExhaustedWombat]

Man, I would have loved a fraction of the angry honesty raised about Kissinger to have made it to the discussion when fellow war criminal Colin Powell died.

[@janedoe-yu1di]

Yes, but Kissinger was far worse than Powell.

[@ExhaustedWombat]

@@janedoe-yu1di which is completely irrelevant to my point and not an excuse for giving him a pass.

[@corinnapetry65]

It's impossible to separate oneself, even as a paeon, to the manure pile that is money. I have separated myself from all interest in professional sports, which is just another big money business, for more than a decade. But the filthy lucre touches everything and it is, as expected, gross.

[@yikee7592]

The guy looks very Mizrahim, not Ashkenazim White European Jew. Cousin to Arabs.

[@dr.brysonsfamilymedicine2453]

I was alive during his shameful career. He is a war criminal.

[@blinkybit]

If you think these guys are not pandering to their own base then you're also falling down a hole. An absolute title like 'Kissinger sucks' is not going to be an intelligent discussion on the man's life and accomplishments. It's attracting an audience who wants to believe that he sucks so they can feel vindicated, meanwhile having never heard of Kissinger until 5 minutes ago .

[@mshepard2264]

the intelligence leak of the Nord stream pipeline intelligence should have been compartmentalized better and should not have leaked to some 20 year old gamer it is undermining our foreign policy.

[@JessSlimmer]

Tommy, so what are you drinking?

[@briancote8216]

B.I.H

[@mry5892]

Ton ton macoutes

[@crl7413]

What about LIV and the U.S. 2024 presidential campaign--FARA and Gail Gitcho, Harry Goodwin and Vivek Ramaswamy...

[@Wiggy8]

Dead or not, Hank was criminal.

[@gool54]

Henry Kissinger rise of evil