Her plan WORKED after all. She CONTROLS GIMME now.

[@ArjunSingh-m2v5x]

The Supreme is reffered to as male. Also this channel shouldn't be so underrated!

[@IramShahid-nd2uo]

Wall yes lila is a girl not a man

[@rosekitten]

This is an incredible twist... I get behind this theory, and let me say why... So much from the Paris special, the London special, and each point you brought up just adds to this conclusion being the truth. It may be difficult for some to believe, but too much adds up. Just look at how she controls Nuru! Who else could therefore control the kwami's the way we see in the Paris special? In other theories, people believe Lila is 'working for the supreme', but what if she IS the supreme...? That just adds a whole other layer of intrigue! Working with HERSELF across time and space for ultimate power... Yikes. I should also add: I never got behind the idea that Master Fu was the supreme. Even in his past as a boy, Fu never wanted anything to do with the power or position as guardian; and he never wanted anything to do with the miraculous. So why, in this other universe, would his opposite self be this evil dictator who uses the miraculous to secure power and control people with them? It doesn't add up to me that he'd exist in a whole other universe as someone who desires to play with power and toy with people's lives on such a scale. Not that I couldn't see him as a bad guy, it just doesn't align with his established character and flaws; those are LILA'S core flaws (manipulating and controlling people for self-gain and power). I think people made this snap assumption because of his association with the miraculous and his position as guardian, that he MUST be the supreme, but forgot that he never wanted the guardian position in the beginning or any power at all; he wanted food, family, and eventually, his lover. His role as guardian was an unwilling one, a choice made for him. But here's what I DO think: even if he was 'evil' or not very good in this other dimension, I think it would just be that his more negative traits, like his selfishness, laziness, or indifference would be more pronounced, and he'd be unwilling to get involved where his assistance or possible knowledge was needed to help resist the Supreme, much like how he messed up and made a selfish decision that lost the miraculous in his youth in the primary dimension. All in all, my point is, I knew there was something deeper to the concept of the supreme, and I think you just NAILED it in this video! :D Excellent theory and sleuthing as always; I can't wait for more..! (sorry for the long comment again XD)

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

Wow..😱..Even I didn't think of this perspective of Master Fu... But it makes a lot of sense.. Thanks a lot for this insight!👍👍

[@Liora-x3h]

what I think is that lila probably sacrificed her current universe to go to a universe where she is the supreme. I mean like in her current universe she has multiple personalities and moms. If she goes to a universe where no on can defy her wishes and she can get all the attention she wants she can ultimately give up this universe where she is a nobody. This explains why after lila made her wish it was the end of the world or the entire universe of the current timeline.

[@Ultimate-tr7cp]

If you had a wish what would you wish for and what would you sacrifice Wait which special is coming after Miraculous London is it the Tokyo special and how do you think it is going I affect the story of Miraculous world!

[@Liora-x3h]

what I think is that lila probably sacrificed her current universe to go to a universe where she is the supreme. I mean like in her current universe she has multiple personalities and moms. If she goes to a universe where no on can defy her wishes and she can get all the attention she wants she can ultimately give up this universe where she is a nobody. This explains why after lila made her wish it was the end of the world or the entire universe of the current timeline.

[@mannyegarica12]

All this is just giving me vibes of The Flash season 2. When we go to Earth 2 and most of the good guys are bad guys and everything's all messed up

[@Gamingjay12]

Lila only had the butterfly miraculous for one day and made the wish twice😭😭😭😭

[@skibinr]

but why is the supreme called a "he"??

[@ArjunSingh-m2v5x]

Yeah!

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

I m not sure why...

[@oida10000]

My theory: the Supreme from the Shadybug Universe is an evil Fu, who wished for world domination and imortailty.

[@eddog6666]

Could it be that they don’t know the supreme is a female and just assumed it is a male? There are voice altering devices out there. And we know it is out in the world of Miraculous because of the fox miraculous who can create perfect illusions of the past and voices too seen in both Sentibubbler and Rockettears

[@Marinette74753]

or.....maybe lila sacrificed her womanhood 💀💀🤣🤣

[@NewsBeat-xn7op]

um there is something that makes sence in lilas sacrifice becuz if lila just wanted to make a wish she just needed to take the two miraculouses but she take the whole miraculous so did she sacrified the miraculous??

[@holmzltd.7819]

Nice one❤

[@bunnyhatzuicecream]

(3:46) The same Ladybug who also lied to the whole world that the terrorist Gabriel was the "hero" in the Season 5 finale, which somehow makes her a bigger liar than Lila.

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

It's the power of love..🥲She was just trying to protect her boyfriend 🥰🥰

[@bunnyhatzuicecream]

@@SoUThinkYouKnow I get what your saying, but Adrien at least deserves to know the truth of who is father really is. I'm ok with the power of love, but forgiving a terrorist is not the right way of doing it.

[@pahel-n2l]

@@bunnyhatzuicecream i get your point but there is a plot hole in it you know he plot Armour plus this can become a good storyline i write stories myself too and this is a good way to make same climactic drama plus Gabriel at least couldn't kill someone though yeah giving people nightmares isn't good

[@Illbeass]

you people are so annoying. 🤦

[@bunnyhatzuicecream]

@pahel-n2l I agree with you, but Season 5 made Gabriel really cruel & messed up. Also as a rookie writer myself who's currently coming up with Mario fanfiction, it's important for me to criticize the strengths & weaknesses of storytelling in many films & shows so that they can get the best advice from there fans & critics.

[@LeonMuli-n4l]

Lila is so heartless, right?

[@Oceanyfromagix]

So true like, she pretends to be nice and selfless even tho she is the opposite, lila is pure evil, try to change mind.

[@JayjayS498]

But it is a multi universe so it's lila gonna be nice in that world

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

Nah ..she can't be nice anywhere ever!

[@AshleyJohnson-dk7fz]

And to say chole was still evil as shady bug said so maybe she had chole in that wish to maybe she wished to not be affected by her wish but iDK

[@punamsharma3757]

This theory is really very interesting but I don't it's the way here. Paris special showed parallel universes and its not how they work Parallel universes are actually different universes which can be any possibility of what is not on ours. They can have almost same realities with some differences to complete different or opposite realities. This is what happened in paris special. The betterfly, clawnoir and shadybug are from there universe were of the opposite roles as, hawkmoth, ladybug and catnoir are. But the intresting that they they can change themselves as they humans too, which is what happened. Abd about supreme, he can be evil master fu(i read in a comment and it was a really nice theory) or lila(or whoever she is) But i believe it is was lila from the parallel universe who has sacrificed her universe( which what ladybug's universe one was going to do, but yes ladybug stopped her) I think the purpose with which paris special was shown was to show or at least give a hint for what wish lila made ( as it was written after London special) It was to show to what extent the wish from gimmi can be exploited

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

@@punamsharma3757 hmmm...nice theory there...it is possible...are you saying the blonde Lila is from another universe?

[@punamsharma3757]

@SoUThinkYouKnow no no I meant to say that she is the lila from ladybug's universe but she is going on the footsteps of the lila from betterfly's universe And through this I came to think of this too that the blue light which was shown at the last episode of season 5 could be supreme(the lila from other universe) That explains that why lila was so sure of her plan that it will work And that also explains that how she was able to think of such a smooth plan like this. I mean it looked like she so damn sure that her plan will work!!!(After watching her reaction at the end) It was because it did work in another universe

[@reviewsandtheories4941]

​@@punamsharma3757 It explains why she had a major freak out

[@ForStudying-s7i]

Gabriel Agreste is dead,but in this Universe he was already live

[@itsdax9409]

bro we know who is the real villain, aka master fu. He’s a reason why Marinette has mental problems. But for real, if the supreme is not Lila/Cerise it has to be Master Fu but instead of accidentally destroying all the miraculous is he maliciously steals them all

[@IramShahid-nd2uo]

I blieve that thore lila is manon from the future

[@karinaacuna3939]

It's spelled "theory".

[@eth1111]

then she must've spend an awful lot of time undeground cuz lila is like 5 skin tones lighter than manon

[@IramShahid-nd2uo]

​@@eth1111 she has many identites and her skin also darker just like manon maybe that theory right or maybe not but its high chances that theoy can be ture

[@KrystaValentina]

Because Chloe was always good in the marinate world she was just manipulated by Lila

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

She could have had that configured or something using tech....You know Lila is tech smart. She would have wanted to hide her gender like she did in the London Special. She only wore suits that hid her gender. With those suits, no one can tell she is a girl.

[@KrystaValentina]

@@SoUThinkYouKnow do u think we should create a group chat for all miraculous fans It will help make ur content better Instead of us talking in comments

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

Umm.. that's a good idea. Will think about doing that..thnx.👍

[@boymhd-if5bd]

But if that was true why did time tagger go back in time if ur theory was true he would have traveled through the multivers not through time.

[@Liora-x3h]

i mean in shadybug's world betterfly could use the multiverse with the help of alya's akumatized form. But lila in london special as well as timetagger used akumatization to go back to the past rather than using multiverses. Maybe because monarch was much older than lila even in timetagger she is still in her 20s.

[@boymhd-if5bd]

@Liora-x3h yeah but if the wish is what was said in the video it would be another universe not the same one bc she got back in time not traveled to another universe.

[@Liora-x3h]

@@boymhd-if5bd well first of she needed to know ladybug's real identity to receive the miraculous. If she succeeded we saw the universe in the current timeline completely disappear( which means end of the world). My theory is that lila sacrifised her current world in order to go to a different world where she is the supreme( probably shadybug's world). Lila in a different timeline to retrieve the miraculous could possibly be because she knows which timeline the miraculous holders r weaker than the rest. Maybe she tried to go to various universes but she got defeated like monarch when he tried to go to various universes in order to steal the cat and ladybug miraculous.

[@demonanime3179]

lila is still not even the supreme tho, you heard a man's voice at the Paris special tho, Lila isn't a man😂

[@jaylesy]

It's not really a compelling proof, because the voice was really disordered, and besides, Lila is great at hiding her gender, as we've seen in the London special, where Bunnix and Ladybug didn't know whether it was he or she.

[@st4rr_1234]

@@jaylesy bunnix knew. ladybug didn't

[@jaylesy]

@st4rr_1234 not confirmed, but most-likely

[@st4rr_1234]

@@jaylesy it's obviously confirmed?? she literally has knowledge of all the timelines including all the identities

[@jaylesy]

@st4rr_1234 I mean I know, but we don't know whether she stalked Cerise from her lair, though, I repeat, it's most-likely that she knows as well.

[@Death-_-machine]

Controlling gimme is controlling the 2 cat and ladybug 1s

[@JenikaGame]

there is a thing that i dont understand is in the episode timetagger ladybug still ad her old costume and in season six she changed costume

[@mxmchord132]

ladybug's costume only changes when she calls out a lucky charm, but that was only before they "grew up" in the episode "revolution". after that we never really got to see ladybug calling a lucky charm, because her next appearance was "bugnoir" and her suit didn't change after calling lucky charms because it was merged with the cat miraculous. so my theory is we will get to see the other pov of time tagger soon, before they change their costumes, but also in the season 6 trailor, the villain hits cat noir and his suit kinda goes back to it's original color, so that could be an impact, or maybe it reversed their power???? like perhaps in the New York special i believe, when ladybug entrusted cat noir to protect paris while she was gone, and cat noir went to newyork as well causing paris to get destroyed, there was no lucky charm called out in paris during the attack of the sentimonster to reverse the damage. does that make sense at all? bc idk if I’m just talking nonseense or I’m onto something. it only a theory hey

[@NikolaPali-w2y]

It makes sense

[@KrystaValentina]

But then y did Lila give Adrien and marinate the miraculous again in her world

[@KrystaValentina]

In her world

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

She gave it to them to destroy them since they are using it for evil. The Miraculous was slowly destroying them.... Didn't you see the purple veins on her face?

[@timmy_430]

So how Adrien and Marinette got the miraculous if Lila hated them so back Yes she destroyed her life but why gave her a miraculous too

[@SouhailAdal]

because if Adrien and Marinette use their miraculous for evil, it would slowly destroy them, so she manipulate them and make sure they continue to use their powers for evil until they die

[@Liora-x3h]

Maybe to gain her trust as the supreme and later on destroy her when she is the most vulnerable, even with her superpowers. As we know negative emotions can cause blunders.

[@yasirrasheed4675]

Sorry but i don't get it....... If lila is the one who is making the wish so the sacrifice should be done by lila how she can sacrifice marinette....... like Gabriel save Nathalie in the end of season 5 he sacrifice his life.......... So lila doesn't sacrifice anything from herself....... She doesn't owns Marinette

[@SoUThinkYouKnow]

Well... She probably didn't sacrifice anything. A selfish person can't sacrifice anything.

[@yasirrasheed4675]

Can you please explain this in detail that why selfish person can't sacrifice anything please

[@yasirrasheed4675]

@@SoUThinkYouKnow can you explain how much selfish person cannot sacrifice anything please

[@Illbeass]

you don’t make sense if lila made a wish to make the shadybug universe she could’ve sacrificed a lot like the good, the guardian(fu?), and more to become everything and control the miraculous. lila is a selfish person and she’d sacrifice everything needed to make her dreams come true she has nothing to lose in reality.

[@jacobweatherford4696]

She did sacrafice something she sacraficed the universe.

[@KrystaValentina]

And also y does the supreme have a manly voice

[@knoxie_q8]

I can answer that, if this theory was true, then the voice change is to completely hide the identity of the supreme a similar example is The Owl and Sparrow in the New York special