Herbalism and Mining Guide

[@Goldzen_tv]

1:45 Goal of the build 2:21 Gathering Data - Herbalism 2:50 Why gather herbs 3:20 What herbs will be higher in demand 3:48 What zone to focus - Herbalism 4:32 Lets talk about skill 4:43 Secondary stats 5:47 How does the math work 7:33 Rare Reagents 7:47 Why do we need rare reagents 9:17 Overloading 15:01 Rich and lush nodes 15:49 Gathering Data - Mining 16:12 Why gather ore 16:40 What ores will be higher in demand 17:24 What zone to focus - Mining 17:44 Tools and accessories 18:31 Mining specializations 24:26 Herbalism specializations 29:03 Planting those seeds 30:01 Tips and tricks 34:40 Racials 36:04 Routes 39:52 Conclusion 40:30 What I will do week one in the war within

[@Dezarius]

awesome for doing this. but pls include this in the discription too. this way youtube implements it in the video itself

[@mohamadhoz2109]

such a nice and clean guide without yapping 20min about a book

[@Goldzen_tv]

Yep every video I watch these days on professions is basically a glorified ad. Your life changes once you learn about how money works and how it affects your decisions.

[@kingd1486]

Doesn’t mean much coming from a person that wants to consume a lot of effort for free; I’m sure you go to work daily and don’t work for free

[@RichardSanders-h1f]

And you are the best creator for gold making I have found. I watch many of them, but your videos give way more detailed explanations and the "why" behind things. I'm sharing your videos with everyone I know.

[@eddiehor5255]

totally agree

[@Goldzen_tv]

Wow, thanks! Richard I thought very similar before I started the channel.

[@Goldzen_tv]

I'll keep providing you guys with info as I go along the journey.

[@kingd1486]

Understanding the “why” without being told explicitly is better for your future in gold making in order to understand how to find other methods that aren’t advertised. Any method on KZbin will get nuked inevitably

[@scottsharwood9465]

Easily the best guide on this topic yet.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Onya Scotty always hitting me with the kind words.

[@kushkhanolkar9632]

Awesome guide. Great visualizations and love hearing your priorities on the skill points, makes it much less overwhelming!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Thanks hope you learnt enough to get started and make some gold in TWW.

[@bobrocktnt]

Best video so far for gathering guide video i saw Great work!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad it helped!

[@positiveliving.]

This is the best guide I've see for Herbing and Mining from all TWW content providers on KZbin. Keep it up.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Wow, thanks! - very positive ^.^

[@khasset]

Thanks for the guide. Very clean, especially you put these screenshots with all builds on 1screen + tips and tricks. I personally think you shouldn't be so worry about timing when doing such quality guide with lot of information! Keep doing it man!❤

[@Goldzen_tv]

Kind words thanks I try my best.

[@rozeyrosehip]

great information, engaging commentary and enjoyable and interesting visuals. thanks for your hardwork! I'll be sharing with my guild, for sure!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Well thanks for the kind word yes please share to anyone you think will get some value from it.

[@patrickc795]

Thanks for all your videos Goldzen, they are great quality and in depth, great to listen to while farming herbs and ores 😁Love from a fellow Aussie

[@Goldzen_tv]

Nice good to know I got Aussie viewers also a pleasure

[@thomasdouglas9562]

Nice work on the guide. Like others have said, one of the best on the subject. Solid, good information and straight to the point and NO paywall BS. Wish you the best of luck in the xpac. Will be recommending this video to my guildies.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Onya mate appreciate the love.

[@iswahyudiasmar9209]

thank for this comprehensive guide

[@Goldzen_tv]

Looking back with hindsight it is completely difference but thanks I'm glad you got something from it

[@nickliao7727]

Great stuff King Goldzen!~ Appreciate the effort to assemble this guide!~

[@Goldzen_tv]

My pleasure!

[@Kyroshi]

I am at 25% or si and needed to pause, to leave a comment. I mean just look at the ratio of views and comments. You quickly see how qualitative your content is. The whole approch is just well thought through and the effort which you put in, is seen quickly. I am so thankful for your content and would wish the youtube algo understands this, too. Highly appreciate your work and I will be looking up a lot of videos in the future. 🎉 TWW will be my first goldmaking expansion and I always enjoy content creators which I can follow for my focus tasks

[@Goldzen_tv]

Thanks man - War within will be my first expansion where I focus on gold making mostly. Happy to have you on the channel any tips or tricks hit us up in the comments.

[@zp8lu]

Amazing guides. Your content, presentation, and videos just slap. Thanks so much for sharing. I only found your channel today and I'm so glad I did.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Welcome aboard! :D Slap that's a new one! I like it, yeah i'm still new to the content creation scene, might take time to grow i'm not in any hurry - organic growth is the best option.

[@forwardstream914]

ty dude for your work! its realy helpfull! you are awesome!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Happy to help! - Hope you learnt something feel free to add to the convo via the comments section in future videos.

[@dazlock4491]

Your videos are evolving and getting better each time. Keep it up.

[@Goldzen_tv]

I appreciate that! using the iteration process will net a better result only factor is time.

[@Kelastov]

Great video mate. Glad ive found your channel.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Welcome aboard!

[@Uncle_Benji]

Keep going! Great job!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Cheers Benji

[@refik121]

Nice guide man helped a lot! Keep up the good work!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad it helped!

[@bubblebuddy8815]

Your content is ALWAYS so good. Thank you for putting the effort into creating those helpful slides. The soothing background music is always so nice and calming too

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad you enjoy it - btw it's 432 Hz frequency so it should appeal to everyone except evil.

[@randcome]

great guide. thank you.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@rossduffin3935]

Great guide goldzen! We spoke briefly about finesse vs perception vs skill on beta - yr slides on that are great! (Im another aussie btw). A few observations - 40% of spawns are camouflaged so that phial is so worth it. There's an alchemy treasure in hallowfall that gives null lotus (worth getting when you're getting all yr knowledge point treasures). Caves are great for rare spawns - too much time for most and not as relaxing as flying..but good if you can stealth as a druid. The ability of druids to remove poison is good too. For ez-mine I found if the terrain is hilly if you max distance above them you wont get bombed. There's also a few spawns in hollows where the bombs don't spread. All the best for launch.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Ahh yes howya goin mate it was a good chat on the beta server. That phial will be fetching a pretty penny then, I believe you to be right about the advantages of druid stealth - druid master class - Thanks for the comment are you on Frostmourne if so ill see you around for sure.

[@rossduffin3935]

@@Goldzen_tv Im on khaz - but think we sorta linked.

[@Zw33dDreamZ]

Thanks for the hard work, appreciate the concise video!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad it was helpful! - Now get back to farming Null stones :D

[@VUZ3EL]

well worth the time to watch! tyvm

[@Goldzen_tv]

Thanks mate any time :D

[@AsTheUniverseFades]

Between you and Manthieus I feel I am covered for professions this expansion. Didn't have time to check the beta at all this time around, so thanks for your work!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad to help! - I just want to provide insight and knowledge as it comes to me. Feel free to add in future comments, i'll aggregate the consensus

[@rozeyrosehip]

interesting comment about making it harder for bots. I had not thought about that, but I totally support it.

[@Goldzen_tv]

They probably wouldn't announce it publicly definately behind the scenes they are thinking about it. Gathering will be way more lucrative going forward. Bots ruin the game economy

[@PokeCao3]

Nice video, although not very punchy, this video has everything a Gatherer would EVER need to succeed in The War Within. Fantastic video once again, you have earned yourself a like and subscriber sir, keep it up, I love your passion!

[@Goldzen_tv]

thanks mate

[@seionne85]

Great video thanks!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad you liked it!

[@javierodinson]

Thanks man, your info was very well explained and thorough.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TheDefirion]

i'll probably spend the first couple of days just farming before starting my levelling, thanks for the guide!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Tweezy thanks

[@dariasraven]

Thank you for the amazing content that you do! You make all of us better players. One note on the Hallow Fall herb farm, that can be done in party's. I tested that one too. So if you have 10 seeds and I have 10 seeds we can both loot the 20 nodes. I would love for Blizzard to make this solo only. One caveat is that once you don't have a seed in your bag, you can no longer see the nodes. The seeds are warbound so at least we can't sell them like in Legion.

[@Goldzen_tv]

That's super interesting I never even considered it, I also just remembered I didn't cover mulching tbh i think mulching is not worth touching the equation on the top mulch doesn't seem like its worth it. Thanks again

[@dariasraven]

@@Goldzen_tv in Legion we could sell seeds on the AH and we would make groups with 200 seeds each and farm the one spot with "soil". It was wild.

[@geewill]

Love your guides m8. Thanks 👍

[@Goldzen_tv]

Glad you like them!

[@SamMathewsOfficial]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Goldzen_tv]

You bet!

[@knappieboy]

I've been bouncing between you and manthieus and it's making me want to start tww on my dual gatherer instead of my pali that I've been maining since 2005 lol.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Follow your goals, I encourage you to write down what you plan to achieve week 1 and try and achieve it. I want to make enough gold to fund my alt army minimum setups might take me awhile but i'm in no rush.

[@knappieboy]

@@Goldzen_tv Thank you for all your time put into this

[@HatefulXP]

Great guide, been looking for this. Sadly KZbin search won't show me this video!!! Had to watch another video and this was under related.

[@Goldzen_tv]

The algorithm works in mysterious ways - Unsettling but good to know so thank you.

[@b3r028]

"withholding knowledge is bad omen" 🔥

[@Goldzen_tv]

Alot of people do this out of their own greed.

[@bobbanks8525]

I look forward to my Rubiks Cube Node in the next expansion. That stealth stuff OP didn't know that.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Same but still Ai's will win out.

[@ajukraizy]

Hello Goldzen. Love your videos. Im a casual player, and will have about 3-4 characters in total. But for my main, what do you think of a combo with Tailoring + Inscription ?

[@Goldzen_tv]

I recommend Alchemy/Engineering on your main along with a dual gatherer to support it. The RnG with both early game and being consistent with it will get you all the recipes faster than people juggling multiple alts. Discovering the profession tools for engineering if you get lucky can net you solid crafting order demand. For the other 2 characters I would make a JC for vials and a BS for Engineering support.

[@ajukraizy]

@@Goldzen_tv Engineering, ive allways thought this is kinda annoying profession. You dont recommend inscription even though that was your nr1 income in Dragonflight?

[@Cinematicpopcorns]

thanks for your work!

[@Goldzen_tv]

No worries mate tweezy!

[@icedraggon17]

insta like , thanks a lot for all the work

[@Goldzen_tv]

Thank you too! Mr Ice Dragon

[@gaminggotreal9291]

Great quality, waiting for Tailoring Alchemy 😊

[@Goldzen_tv]

Starting them today will post this week sometime.

[@bikeomatic8005]

its a rather short time perspective to farm 1st week and sell, big money are in profession crafts, you might gain week 1 from gathering and high mats prices but then youll be week behind all the crafters who will be making big bucks and getting few fold return on week one investment

[@Goldzen_tv]

Well lets test that theory shall we.

[@knappieboy]

I believe Manthieus is also going full gather mode on launch. I think it's the winner. You'll not only capitalize on the early prices but you'll have a back log of low quality mats to power level all your profs.

[@bikeomatic8005]

@@Goldzen_tv well I levelled my main purely by gatherin ore and herbs in df. Wasn’t into making gold at a time, so by all means I didn’t minmax or anything. Just exped till 70 like this. Wouldn’t even kill anything. I think i made 5-6mil. Picked up jc/insc/bs/tailo end of s2. So prices per craft were 8-10k (15k) if I got lucky. That made me another 12m until today. But I missed the bonanza period where people were charging 50k or prolly more for crafts - while I was picking up herbs. So don’t know if this is such a winner. I had plenty of clients for crafts and thats just replying to them looking for crafter inbetween m+ etc. so not even spamming trade all day.

[@knappieboy]

"The Artisan's Acuity reagent cost for rare and epic Profession tools and accessories may now only be provided by the customer for crafting orders." HUGE buff to mining and herbing =)))) Ores and herbs should retain value for much longer

[@Goldzen_tv]

Oh yeah i'm counting on it, so good for the economy - we have to consider how the bots go this time around. I see tremendous demand for all materials for a long time just looking at the professions and consumables. Fun times ahead

[@L0rks]

Thank you :)

[@Goldzen_tv]

Happying Herbing!

[@he1ge]

Great video! Do you have a list of what zone to farm for what node?

[@Goldzen_tv]

Rotate between the 3 underground zones 1 hour in each will be alright.

[@GabrielJudeL]

Hey mate, great video! I watched it till the end :D I had a couple questions and I hope you can help provide some clarity. 1) You reckon Aqirite and Ironclaw nodes are just as common as Bismuth especially in the areas you mentioned? (i.e: Ringing Deeps) 2) How hard are null stones and null lotus to come by? Reckon we should first put all our kp into the increased chance of null lotus or stone when herbing or mining bismuth or mycrobloom? 3) Reckon it's worth the effort to "shuffle" AA from alts to make full deck blue gear on day 1 or it's just not worth the time and gold required for it? 4) Did you test to see if Perception does increase the chances of null stones and null lotus or Perception only affects the rare reagents such as crystalline powder etc? 5) Does the Phial of Perception stack with the Darkmoon Firewater that gives Deftness or they don't? Appreciate you reading and answering the questions mate!

[@Goldzen_tv]

1) I meant they are more prominent in those areas. 2) They come naturally no need to rush 3) Not worth 4) I did test it perception gives more rare's 100% - didnt mention it in the guide. 5) Not sure on that one mate.

[@GabrielJudeL]

@@Goldzen_tv thanks for your time to answer it! I appreciate it!

[@Dezarius]

are these numbers at 2:30 and 15:50 with fully geared and skilled or are you missing KP and blue gear?

[@Goldzen_tv]

I didnt have fully maxxed points at the time. It was just to roughly demonstrate the frequency in which to expect the reagents dropping for you.

[@Dezarius]

@@Goldzen_tv okay ty :)

[@gab5215]

Crazy work 😮 thanks you !! I have a question. Would you say that it will be more efficient to stay level 70-71 and start to farm asap, or to finish the campaign and then start gathering ?

[@Goldzen_tv]

Personally I will get my main to 80 then farm another 4-6 toons to level 80 via gathering. You will level to 72 in like 2 hours just gathering nodes FYI - no rush but you are stronger at lower levels

[@Miyahr]

Insightful video. always thank you for sharing 👍 I have a question. I have a dual-gathering dracthyr alt and I also made druid dual-gathering alt as insurance. Druid can save 40 KPs in botany. so Druid can start priority 2 or 3 first. What do you think about Druid (Prio2 or 3) vs Dracthyr (Prio 1)?

[@Goldzen_tv]

I think your 100% correct, but I believe your time horizon is short, when you think longer term it changes but still end of the day its up to you mate.

[@Miyahr]

@@Goldzen_tv time value. ty 🙏

[@positiveliving.]

One question I have: Once you have picked up all your skill ups for the week do you think that Deepgrove Roots and Null Silvers will continue to be collected or were these only implemented for beta testing of gathering? If this is the case it will take many weeks to skill up on the regular weekly pick ups. The Roots and Silvers went a long way in quickly filling up our KP's. Some people seem to think that blizz will continue to allow for these to be picked up but it seems to me that this will not be the case.

[@Goldzen_tv]

Your right they had increased drop rate for the beta servers. The catch up method is a great addition for people who join later they can still compete. Just means going full sweaty on launch week might not be the best thing long term now that i'm thinking about it.

[@SuRpriiZeGaming]

Do you plan on streaming the launch at all

[@Goldzen_tv]

My internet connection is not capable of streaming - So negative. One day for sure

[@decreetgames609]

Hey, been watching most of your guides last few days and just wanted to give you a shout out to keep the work going ! Could you tell me an estimate of how much time you spend farming herbs / ores to gain the amounts showed in the video?

[@Goldzen_tv]

I believe it was 8-10 hrs not accurate just a guess. I was getting catchup knowledge the whole way so the numbers are not realistic at all. Either way gathering is going to be a sure win. If your patient and consistent.

[@RichardSanders-h1f]

Do you think dual gathering herb/mine will make more gold than a tailor (boomie) specd in cloth finding doing 2x4s in the first few days of the launch?

[@Goldzen_tv]

hands down the 2x4 tailor will make more gold simply because there will be less people doing it than dual gatherer's - I reckon go for it.

[@he1ge]

How is the XP for gathering? Decent way to level?

[@Goldzen_tv]

I plan to level two dual gatherer's to 80 just gathering herbs and mining nodes. The 25% exp bonus and warmode helps for it to do decent enough.

[@zimtv517]

BTW which zone do you think would be the best for farming herbs and mine?

[@Goldzen_tv]

Best for gold Hallowfall/Azj-Kahet but harder. Easy to obtain will be Isle of Dorn less interactions there But less valuable materials. Personally I will rotate between all of the zones 1 hr each the swap otherwise I will get bored tbh.

[@Jarlan23]

Do you think it'll be worth farming renown at all for the +10 Mining/Herbing points?

[@Goldzen_tv]

Nah your going to get renown 12 quite passively over time. Save your energy for farming nodes

[@Thadeka.]

if u could only have one gathering wich one wouldu choose?for me i just play 1 char Main i have enchanting and i prefer some gathering to kill time in que.FOr long term does mining or herbing wil be better

[@Goldzen_tv]

I would go skinning/enchanting then and do the daily rare skin spawn in the ringing deeps, and join 2x4 skinning farms in the group finder.

[@Thadeka.]

Thank you for good advice,one more question. When u look at herb and mining, wich one u see that wil be more revelant and in demand with rare materials. Mining one has more recepies but herb has one for flasks

[@gloomshadeo]

Got any plan for how to get all your alts to 80?

[@Goldzen_tv]

Level them up the old fashioned way - Use Zygors + Time maybe timewalking when it comes about.

[@pcxPOT]

Ay Bro, what kind of mount was that in the end?

[@Goldzen_tv]

probably the new engineering mount.

[@ddrweb_]

Yo brother.. don't forget about the sky golem, that at least helps with herbalism also darkmoon firewater

[@Goldzen_tv]

I did mention the Sky Golem further into the video, I'm unaware of Darkmoon Firewater will look this up asap. Ty

[@devinwatrous2239]

how expensive do you feel that the matts will be? especially for rank 3

[@Goldzen_tv]

Rank 3 in my honest opinion will be technically more scarce than rank 1 and 2 which if I know anything about supply and demand , then they will be more expensive how much exactly only the market knows this I can assume 20 times more expensive than rank 1

[@rafamaster42]

Great guilde, all other gold youtubers just focus on crafting and do gathers ones with 30% effort. Does Phial of Truesight comes from trainer or is it harder to get like rep ?. Mine potential suggestion is since mycobloms are most common if you spec fongus forager you will get most null lotus, depends on price it could be biss talent

[@Goldzen_tv]

Specialization in Mycobloom for increased chance is wise but I wouldn't do it until i did all my 3 priorities first. I assume Phial of Truesight will be an experimentation recipe. Thanks for watching Rafa

[@rafamaster42]

@@Goldzen_tv also your 1 recomendation is go for fundamental that is perception and flying but since first week you only ger like 50-60 skils you wont be able to get plethore witch is like 75 skill. Dont you think first week rank 3 mats will be most in demand?

[@rando44]

I plan to level my main which is a Death Knight to 80 first, I then have a level 70 Tauren Druid from remix that I plan to use for Dual Gathering (Minning/Herbalism) so is there any restriction or issue with me gathering on a level 70 instead of an 80 apart form mobs being dangerous around me?

[@Goldzen_tv]

No restriction once your level 80 has unlocked adventure mode. Which happens easily by clicking the telescope. It makes sense for me to level my main also perhaps 5 alts first then go farming or make 3 more dual gatherers and go hard.

[@rando44]

@@Goldzen_tv Would you recommend me using my 70 druid and going Adventure mode and just gathering for the first few days after Early access? I am also planning on leveling a few alts that I want to play during the M+ season as well but then I have like 20+ other alts I will sit at level 70 in the main city and just spam Alchemy/Tailoring and will also use some to funnel Profession equipment to my main characters. Not sure if that is the right idea but like you I want to get ahead on the gathering in the first few days/week and not having to level my gatherer would save me a lot of time, does this plan sound decent to you?

[@NavidMardukh]

😚👌

[@Goldzen_tv]

Cheers Navid!

[@Goldzen_tv]

Mignon brother

[@blaaablubber]

nice guide - its pronounced "ir-ra-di-ated" (irradiate) by the way :>

[@Goldzen_tv]

Thanks I struggle sometimes.

[@Uncle_Benji]

If you are planning to create a website for your guides, for example, a personal blog, I can help... Judging by your attitude, you've probably already thought about it...

[@Goldzen_tv]

Yeah not my style unfortunately Benji. Glad to know there's someone out there willing to give me and hand but in all honesty the viewership and support is all that I care for.

[@atufbrandbusiness3581]

for the algo

[@Goldzen_tv]

The elusive algorithm - I will stay pure and never sway

[@zimtv517]

Bro your guide was so good, you deserve more Like and Subs...

[@Goldzen_tv]

Wow, thanks! I appreciate all the genuine comments I receive there's no need to ask people to sub and like my videos, I prefer honest feedback and comments above all else. Otherwise it's just too plastic.

[@abdelkarimnouar]

Nice guide like always 1 thing do you have discord that we can join

[@Goldzen_tv]

I do but i cbf working it out, perhaps i can add it and the community can run it perhaps.

[@t-f9733]

@goldzen_tv do you have a discord server or are you just posing on youtube :)?

[@Goldzen_tv]

KZbin for now if I ever get the discord working ill let everyone know.