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Herbie Hancock on Miles: Don't play the butter notes!

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Dennis Sobolev

Dennis Sobolev

Күн бұрын

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@jongilbertson2106
@jongilbertson2106 3 жыл бұрын
Not playing the butter notes gives you less of a margarine of error.
@JiveDadson
@JiveDadson 3 жыл бұрын
I hate you.
@Hi-bb5lo
@Hi-bb5lo 3 жыл бұрын
🤭🤭🤭
@sexyhomeowner9345
@sexyhomeowner9345 3 жыл бұрын
@@JiveDadson I hate him too, and myself for finding his comment so funny, lol.
@Dan-sb2fb
@Dan-sb2fb 3 жыл бұрын
boooo
@nononono12345
@nononono12345 3 жыл бұрын
YES.
@caesarstrings
@caesarstrings 3 жыл бұрын
Miles: “Man, Herb looks depressed.” Wayne: “Lol go up all serious & tell him some silly shit.” Miles: “lol aight I got an idea.”
@MichaelCrutcher
@MichaelCrutcher 3 жыл бұрын
Except Miles didn't play with Coltrane and Herbie in the same band. I'm not sure Herbie ever played with Trane.
@davidadu8559
@davidadu8559 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelCrutcher miles and Coltrane were close, miles gave a soprano saxophone to Coltrane and he even played modal jazz with it
@danielkim7790
@danielkim7790 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidadu8559 Yeah, Miles and Coltrane were close. But what the commenter is pointing out is that Coltrane's time playing with Miles in his band (mid to late 50's) never overlapped with the period Herbie spent playing with Miles (mid to late 60's)
@davidadu8559
@davidadu8559 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielkim7790 herbie did play with both Coltrane and miles, if I can recall correctly they were all in the same band (l might be wrong, correct me if I am)
@danielkim7790
@danielkim7790 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidadu8559 You are wrong. As I literally just said, their time in Davis's band never overlapped. Coltrane left Davis's group for the last time in 1960 and Herbie didn't begin playing with Davis until 63 when he was only seventeen. Feel free to google it if you don't believe me
@davidd9976
@davidd9976 3 жыл бұрын
Herbie: "What key we in?" Miles: "Ghee Minor"
@claudio_gonzalo
@claudio_gonzalo 3 жыл бұрын
genius
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 3 жыл бұрын
Solids
@rexbenny1553
@rexbenny1553 3 жыл бұрын
You win.
@jackyoung8354
@jackyoung8354 3 жыл бұрын
I dont get it
@rexbenny1553
@rexbenny1553 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackyoung8354 Ghee is clarified butter.
@obbzerver
@obbzerver 4 жыл бұрын
Years later Miles tells him - "naw, that ain't what I meant man...."
@Hubtones1
@Hubtones1 4 жыл бұрын
🤣, laughed out loud literally
@americanedokko2782
@americanedokko2782 3 жыл бұрын
obbzerver - 😂
@nicklh186
@nicklh186 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@0prahTV
@0prahTV 3 жыл бұрын
"I said stutter, not butter"
@tanphuoc1833
@tanphuoc1833 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@aholesubs1557
@aholesubs1557 3 жыл бұрын
he actually said "play some better notes"
@XYBand
@XYBand 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@georgesoden
@georgesoden 3 жыл бұрын
No he actually said “don’t play the bottom notes”. Like don’t play the root etc
@4EverLearning757
@4EverLearning757 3 жыл бұрын
aholesubs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DavideDondiMusic
@DavideDondiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgesoden yes, let's leave them to the bass player, once and for all :)
@monsieurPessoa
@monsieurPessoa 3 жыл бұрын
Cant stop laughing :)
@lannetteamourose7335
@lannetteamourose7335 3 жыл бұрын
And after Herbie's solo Miles said, " I can't believe it's not butter".
@Hithere-ek4qt
@Hithere-ek4qt 3 жыл бұрын
- don't quit your day job
@lannetteamourose7335
@lannetteamourose7335 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hithere-ek4qt , you mean at Land O Lakes?
@fordcorrigan
@fordcorrigan 3 жыл бұрын
Parkay
@jaredwblack
@jaredwblack 3 жыл бұрын
Oleo
@davidhoar75
@davidhoar75 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@EmeraldMinotaur
@EmeraldMinotaur 5 жыл бұрын
You will never reach *level 6 ghost pepper jazz harmony* with butter notes
@Piotrek_Sanejko
@Piotrek_Sanejko 5 жыл бұрын
Just watched adam neely too hahahah
@jasonsteves734
@jasonsteves734 5 жыл бұрын
how then?
@richardsidler
@richardsidler 5 жыл бұрын
The Metalhead Otter to paraphrase: “if Miles were alive this would kill him!”
@mikea6710
@mikea6710 4 жыл бұрын
Butter notes are a sign of a weak man
@khdroid123
@khdroid123 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ChaunceyGardener
@ChaunceyGardener 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Miles said "play gluten-free notes" he was always ahead of his time.
@ripztubig4457
@ripztubig4457 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@benjaminwilkin2960
@benjaminwilkin2960 3 жыл бұрын
Butter is not glutenous
@espr7564
@espr7564 3 жыл бұрын
Ahead of his time? No he wasn't he was just fully overrated.
@benjaminwilkin2960
@benjaminwilkin2960 3 жыл бұрын
@@espr7564 you try doing something with your life
@ripztubig4457
@ripztubig4457 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwilkin2960 🤣🤣🤣
@lennyjay8390
@lennyjay8390 3 жыл бұрын
_"What does that mean, don't play the butter-notes?"_ *Introspective piano music starts*
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 2 жыл бұрын
full of butter notes I might add
@horrortackleharry
@horrortackleharry 3 жыл бұрын
Miles was actually trying to shake Herbie out of his depression: "Don't play the butt-hurt notes..."
@Mr-ep2qi
@Mr-ep2qi 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@simonduring-nicholson7228
@simonduring-nicholson7228 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@johnhenningfield4360
@johnhenningfield4360 3 жыл бұрын
that's a good one LOL
@johnaina8649
@johnaina8649 2 жыл бұрын
HA HA HA!!
@jonbohlen5624
@jonbohlen5624 3 жыл бұрын
Too be fair, Mile’s probably didn’t even know what he meant.
@Sobchak2
@Sobchak2 3 жыл бұрын
He did actually. Years later it turned out he just said _don't play the bottom notes_
@goodcoffeehelps
@goodcoffeehelps 3 жыл бұрын
Without that advice, Herbie’s career would have been toast.
@finntastiq1524
@finntastiq1524 3 жыл бұрын
Without the butter notes, he went on to jam with the world.
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is getting a little bit dairy.
@noahjames9457
@noahjames9457 2 жыл бұрын
You could say he was butter off with that advice!
@ryharuto
@ryharuto 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t play the “BOTTOM NOTES”. That’s why we have a Bass Player in the band to do that. Herbie misinterpreted the obvious but he took the scenic route to eventually do what Miles advised him of.
@vova47
@vova47 8 ай бұрын
That sounds more logical, though playing bottom notes now and again reinforces harmony.
@aerchys4779
@aerchys4779 8 ай бұрын
@@vova47But it provides stability to chords, makes them feel fuller and more stable. But the instability is good in jazz because it gives you more places to go after a chord without it feeling like a big change on ideas. At least that’s what I think about it
@janetownley
@janetownley Ай бұрын
But “bottom” sounds nothing like “butter”. Nice creative imagination though 😊
@Breakbeat90s
@Breakbeat90s 5 жыл бұрын
THE BUTTER NOTES GODDAMIT!
@peterkossits4794
@peterkossits4794 4 жыл бұрын
"Leave the 5th and the 9th to the blowers" is the way I got that same lesson.
@JoseGarcia-yh4tu
@JoseGarcia-yh4tu 3 жыл бұрын
why the 9th?
@peterkossits4794
@peterkossits4794 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-yh4tu Because on dominant chords, the 5th and the 9th can both be flatted OR sharped and it still sounds good. Blowers love to mess with those two notes. But if someone else is playing the straight 5th or 9th at the same time, it can sound really horrible.
@DanielKodiak
@DanielKodiak 3 жыл бұрын
Blowers? Winds?
@peterkossits4794
@peterkossits4794 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielKodiak "blowers" = "improvisors/guy taking the solo"
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-yh4tu The 9th is the fifth of the fifth, so not only does it add something fat and sweet to the root, it anricipates a modulation through fifths should things move in that direction. Now, I LOVE it. But I'm an amateur. I get to love the simple and easy stuff, and my friends are like, wow man you can totally improvise! No I can't. I've got a few simple tricks is all. Imagine skydiving without that parachute. You've got to go to the next level, invent the answer to whatever is playing out here and now. Musicians won't actually DIE if they fail to invent a fresh answer, but it's not a good night. So that's why the real musicians won't settle for the butter notes. I totally will. I'm just not in that class.
@slowkim2548
@slowkim2548 3 жыл бұрын
‘bottom notes’ lol. listened wrong but thought creatively.
@spacealienjesus709
@spacealienjesus709 4 жыл бұрын
These men are legends..
@IRACEMABABU
@IRACEMABABU 3 жыл бұрын
It's the same thing as Louis Armstrong once said : "i don't play all the notes of a melody, just the best ones". In teresting that this concept comes from two trumpet players....
@wangson
@wangson 22 күн бұрын
Thank goodness that we still have this absolute brilliant musician amongst us. What a talent!!
@ajcohen100
@ajcohen100 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Miles had a special insight into Herbie, or if he just said that to everyone around that time.
@jameshershberger8085
@jameshershberger8085 3 жыл бұрын
That particular piece of advice was probably just for Herbie. Obviously Miles had an incredible ear and mind for music. The advice he had for HH wouldn’t be the same advice he had for another player.
@Gk2003m
@Gk2003m 3 жыл бұрын
I remember Miles being interviewed about HH, and he said something like “I’d point at Herbie to take a solo, and I’d immediately regret it because he always had to play all 88 keys”
@giov7
@giov7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gk2003m LOL
@paulprice6330
@paulprice6330 3 жыл бұрын
Herbie asks Miles again about it. Miles: " I was high son"
@davidwhite2949
@davidwhite2949 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how Miles changed all the lives he touched
@guitarz99
@guitarz99 3 жыл бұрын
imagine being a super talent having mastered your instrument and being in a rut and music is your life, miles was a genius
@jazzygiraffe8589
@jazzygiraffe8589 4 жыл бұрын
Probably Miles ment ''bottom notes'' as in ''use Bill Evans' rootless voicings, don't use the fifth and root, use more tensions'' . Very ironic if you look at Herbie Hancock's story from that point of view...
@AntwhaleNearfar
@AntwhaleNearfar 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Legende No. Butter notes is a jazz term meaning the third and root of a chord, as they obviously indicate what type of chord it is.
@jazzygiraffe8589
@jazzygiraffe8589 3 жыл бұрын
Y.T. Sobriquet your argument makes no sense because the word butter note was only used to describe the third and seventh of the chord after Herbie Hancocks story.
@AntwhaleNearfar
@AntwhaleNearfar 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Legende Ridiculous. They said that long before his story. Wow how clueless can you get. “Don’t play the bottom notes”. Ha! Yeah sure, that’s what Miles said.
@AntwhaleNearfar
@AntwhaleNearfar 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Legende Herbie thought he said butter but he actually said bottom. Absurd. I don’t give a shit how raspy and whispery Miles’ voice was, Herbie Hancock can hear the difference between a Dsus4sus2 chord and an Amin7 chord without the root based solely on the context of the notes around it and you think he couldn’t hear the difference between the word butter and bottom spoken directly into his ear? Foh.
@AntwhaleNearfar
@AntwhaleNearfar 3 жыл бұрын
TacoTacoTacoTaco You must not be black. That all “makes sense” but butter is a black slang term, meaning smooth or The Shit (“Damn that ride is straight butter”). Miles wouldn’t use some corny and obvious term like bottom notes...he said butter meaning the chord’s “sweet spots”...i.e. the notes that clearly define its tonality. Smh.
@greatmomentsofopera7170
@greatmomentsofopera7170 3 жыл бұрын
Miles Davis was almost certainly whispering “don’t play the bottom notes”
@JustMenta
@JustMenta 2 ай бұрын
That's the power of really listening to each other while playing.
@adamcolbertmusic
@adamcolbertmusic Жыл бұрын
Not playing the butter notes allowed him to have a margarine of error
@Meshuggapeth
@Meshuggapeth 3 жыл бұрын
And the whole time, Miles actually said don’t play the bottom notes. Thank you for top notch piano music based on a mishearing
@princessalaina4589
@princessalaina4589 2 ай бұрын
I've always loved Herbie Hancocks music and mastery of the keyboard.
@annsophiefans1472
@annsophiefans1472 5 жыл бұрын
DON'T PLAY THE BUTTER NOTES
@honkytonkinson9787
@honkytonkinson9787 3 жыл бұрын
It means don’t get complacent with your improvisations. It’s really easy to get comfy and play the things you like over and over, but then it gets stale and you get bored, but sometimes you get stuck. I play multiple instruments and it’s nice to take a break from one for a while because I feel fresh when I come back and I can discover new lines. I’d get really frustrated only playing one instrument, but I’d probably be better sticking to one if I’d push through the boredom and stale riffs.
@JosephAraza
@JosephAraza 3 жыл бұрын
Then Miles looked at Kenny and said: “yo, you should play more I can’t believe it’s not butter notes”
@TheGrrson
@TheGrrson 3 жыл бұрын
Miles forced everyone around him to improve. He definitely knew the power of 'less is more.'
@DaveFury
@DaveFury 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I definitely hear him saying to not overplay the progression, and color up the notes that you do play. I think he also meant to "trim the fat", meaning to stay true to the song and to the style. I have found that jazz cats like Miles are really passionate about the music they write and play, and with jazz, there are "rules" (written and unwritten) to follow. That's what I take from it.
@jakemartin4305
@jakemartin4305 3 жыл бұрын
Its always the great musicians who make good musicians better 👍
@yukiko_akiyama
@yukiko_akiyama 3 жыл бұрын
'Don't play the butter notes' Gonna keep this in mind forever.
@derrickwest2576
@derrickwest2576 4 жыл бұрын
3rds and 7ths used in 🎹 piano butter notes .
@gopherstate777
@gopherstate777 3 жыл бұрын
People applauded the search and the honest attempt at expression and the art fullness.
@lovettboston
@lovettboston 3 жыл бұрын
Like when Monk would say, "Don't play the bullshit notes." It's pretty much the same as when a classical composer does "note spinning." In basketball, there was a play-by-play announcer who used the term "fiddlin'-and-diddlin.'" Just as there are intervals when you can have have great music without sound, there others when you can have sound without music--and that's even without cacophany.
@johnnyv1982
@johnnyv1982 3 жыл бұрын
Miles Davis watching this documentary, thinks to himself “ no no noooo I said hey herbie... you play “BETTER THAN MOST “
@kenwilliamsvoice
@kenwilliamsvoice 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, my father talked to me like that, starting as boy of 8 or 9. He'd say something to me without explaining himself. His tone said I was to figure it out. His body language and facial expression assured me he was done talking. Looking back 50 years I can say It' was a wonderful way of teaching and learning. I usually figured it out. Sometimes 20 years later. ; )
@thingsyoudontreallysee
@thingsyoudontreallysee 3 ай бұрын
cool
@davidreinhard6037
@davidreinhard6037 3 жыл бұрын
I literally thought this was going to turn out as having been Herbie just mishearing Miles having said "don't play the BOTTOM notes". Like maybe he was inhabiting too much of the lower register during his solos, thereby muddying it out, and he just wanted him to play higher so he'd be more in the lead when he solod.
@KevCo174
@KevCo174 3 жыл бұрын
His approach to playing is so sophisticated. I think of this often when I read some comment (and man are there a ton of them) on video of a song by The Who or the Rolling Stones saying "This is *real* music! Not like what the kids listen to today!" And all I'm thinking is "Man, that's three major chords in 4/4 time for three minutes. Have you ever heard jazz? Those cats would laugh at you calling that the 'real' music." Don't get me wrong. Rock music is my favorite kind of music, and I love the Stones and the Who and the whole roster. But it's so funny to think that millions of people think "Satisfaction" is as high as music can climb.
@lukmigindnuforhelved
@lukmigindnuforhelved Жыл бұрын
Rock: Playing three chords in front of thousands of ppl. Jazz: The opposite ;)
@cosmojairzinho14
@cosmojairzinho14 Ай бұрын
About the who...I have to disagree..pete townshend has some pretty tasteful things in his guitar chords..
@ericanderson7059
@ericanderson7059 3 жыл бұрын
The Maestro : " Don't play the butter notes " . The pupil : ParkAAAY . Listening to his mentor helped Rock it Mr. Hancock to stardom .
@jefflovelady4416
@jefflovelady4416 3 жыл бұрын
That quote belongs on a poster.
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 3 жыл бұрын
To me it is if it is the second coming...
@mattmoves5920
@mattmoves5920 3 жыл бұрын
There was this guy at the bass playing with Herbie back in the days, his name was Joe "Butter" Willis, and Miles saw that him was playing the exact solo all the time...
@aartmark
@aartmark 4 жыл бұрын
This is very timely for me to watch this. I've been making some soup and I forgot to put in the butter. Soup making is the time to put in the butter. MMMMMmmmm.
@bob733333
@bob733333 3 жыл бұрын
Brown it slightly.
@mackjigger6030
@mackjigger6030 Ай бұрын
Miles was a Taoist Master posing as a trumpet player
@anelkobalic1574
@anelkobalic1574 3 жыл бұрын
Its a checkpoint in life. Sometimes someone says a word or two that shapes the rest of your life. My friends told me you have a huge ego. After that i was on a quest.
@jikamos
@jikamos 3 жыл бұрын
Miles autobiographies reads FYI that Miles as young child in his way to school witnessed lynchings in his home town of East St Louis. I hope pple know how such negativity can affect a young child and I hope pple will try reading about one of the most documented musicians in the World. Blessings
@rontomkins6727
@rontomkins6727 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the ol' "I can't Believe it's not Butter" method of Jazz theory explanation.
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel 3 жыл бұрын
Miles said "Don't play the bottom notes"
@AnthonyElsetinow
@AnthonyElsetinow 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it came out later in an interview with Herbie, he said “dont play the BOTTOM notes”
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 3 жыл бұрын
Dexter Gordon's solo on The End Of Love Affair. That is a life lesson right there.
@williamarnold9744
@williamarnold9744 3 жыл бұрын
Two spectacular musicians creating a synergy.
@pillslifestylereviews6714
@pillslifestylereviews6714 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is also why Tommy Wiseau's The Room works. A lot of the scenes are missing the "Butter Notes" and therefore shocks you, but in a good way :)
@starchiiiiild
@starchiiiiild 3 жыл бұрын
lol Eric Andre show too
@MechanicalRabbits
@MechanicalRabbits 3 жыл бұрын
The Room "works" because it's so fucking bad its laughable. I don't think the analogy applies when comparing it to Herbie's playing
@randyjohnson8366
@randyjohnson8366 3 жыл бұрын
Miles was amazing.
@michaelgreen5206
@michaelgreen5206 3 жыл бұрын
Herbie is a virtuoso and so was Miles. Love their music!!!
@onlinerecords
@onlinerecords 3 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@dasse1588
@dasse1588 3 ай бұрын
Actually what he said was don't play with my butter knots from Pizza Hut
@hen263
@hen263 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Herbie is a vampire. He never ages.
@gentjazzfestival
@gentjazzfestival 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to have you at our festival in 2021!! Can't wait
@shlmel
@shlmel 3 жыл бұрын
"thanks Miles"
@AlexzygmuntH
@AlexzygmuntH 3 жыл бұрын
Clever. There is power in minimalism
@douglaspouch5313
@douglaspouch5313 3 жыл бұрын
Miles had just seen Last Tango In Paris.
@marcelobecerra5083
@marcelobecerra5083 8 ай бұрын
Uno de los grandes pianistas y músicos de su generación 🎹👏
@docfaceful
@docfaceful 3 жыл бұрын
Miles also told him"don't try to fatten up with whaling blubber runs...one of the best compliments miles said years later to hancock was "your not getting any blubber!"
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 3 жыл бұрын
In film terms, I equate this with not showing someone crying. That's the audience's role. Remember the audience. They're participating. Slang is the short cut to your brain. Don't answer the question, say something, either vocally or by a look that suggests the answer. And keep practicing. When a song writer writes a melodic line, he ain't done. He still has to write the complementary line, and still take it to the bridge. Think like they do. Not endless noodling, but a direction. Think Cannonball.
@druirving9142
@druirving9142 3 жыл бұрын
“Spread the marmalade thinly”...go and figure that one out.
@godbluffvdgg
@godbluffvdgg 3 жыл бұрын
As an OG, ( old guy)...:)...It breaks my heart to see this music laying near death, I remember when nearly every radio station on AM and FM were playing great music...We had so many great stations; Now; here in philly, only RTI after 6pm weekdays can you hear any deep jazz. I was more of a prog head, being a teen in the 70's...Jazz was a 60's thing but; only recently; ( the last ten years) have we been able to explore it...And Man, Herbie, Miles, Thelonious, Coltrane, Weather Report, Return to Forever...It's a lifetime of music...I feel sorry for anyone that listens to one single second of Rap, hip hop, tik tok, autotune, bubblegum, pop bullshit...That's a second wasted...
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 2 жыл бұрын
its out there, you just gotta find it yourself now
@chrischenpiano
@chrischenpiano 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Miles did not have a specific meaning in mind, but was using a random word to disrupt the rut Herbie was in and kick him into creative mode, which is what happened.
@elvislives-gl4rv
@elvislives-gl4rv 3 жыл бұрын
So, what we are saying is he was feeling down, but then Miles layed it on him and he felt allot butter.
@synthonaplinth5980
@synthonaplinth5980 3 жыл бұрын
Betty Botter bought some butter But she said 'this butter's bitter' If I put it in my batter, my batter will be bitter But a bit of better batter will make my batter better So Betty Botter bought some butter Better than her bitter butter, put it in her batter She put a bit of better butter into her batter, made her batter better
@chazzthepukeko5057
@chazzthepukeko5057 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@Kitties_are_pretty
@Kitties_are_pretty 3 жыл бұрын
"You have to listen to the notes he's not playing."
@Hithere-ek4qt
@Hithere-ek4qt 3 жыл бұрын
Gag - another bullshit comment
@fredsavage4925
@fredsavage4925 3 жыл бұрын
it was probably code for "get me better junk, piano man."
@cchase92
@cchase92 3 жыл бұрын
Miles had kicked H way before this time period
@bh8365
@bh8365 3 жыл бұрын
Some very humorous and insightful comments here. There's another short KZbin clip that shows Miles glaring at Herbie. Those comments are also entertaining.
@pauleady2385
@pauleady2385 4 жыл бұрын
Herb look great to be in his 80s I tell you......black really don't crack he looks like he in 60s
@jazzygiraffe8589
@jazzygiraffe8589 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Eady Are you sure this interview was done when he was in his 80s?
@pauleady2385
@pauleady2385 4 жыл бұрын
@@jazzygiraffe8589 Idk but I saw him on something last year and he doesn't look like he's 80 but he is
@TheTruthiest
@TheTruthiest 3 жыл бұрын
Black don't crack, black smoke crack.
@pearlblues3665
@pearlblues3665 3 жыл бұрын
So some of my BLM-inspired friends have said that I've "stolen" from black musicians I'm influenced by, or said "cultural appropriation"... but for some reason watching this video makes me realize that when you're a musician, your culture is music and nothing else, no race, no colour, just music. "Don't play the butter notes" could mean almost anything... but just trying to figure it out puts you in a creative frame of mind...
@jbird1130
@jbird1130 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest you take the time to do a little research. If you go read a few interviews, you'd find that Herbie, and especially Miles (especially in his famous 1962 Playboy interview) would disagree with you. Jazz, like it or not, IS the musical heritage of the African American community. That doesn't mean that you can't play it, enjoy it, or even contribute to the medium, but it does mean you need to recognize that jazz cannot be separated from its history. Look no further than the police beating Miles Davis in the head outside of The Birdland Club in 1959 to realize why he felt the way he did. Don't take it from me, but Miles Davis himself in his own words, "It's a lot of the [black] musicians mad because most of the best-paying jobs go to the white musicians playing what the [blacks] created."
@pearlblues3665
@pearlblues3665 3 жыл бұрын
@@jbird1130 I didn't say that Jazz wasn't created by Black Americans or that it isn't their musical heritage... but never mind... Having said that, I think Miles would agree with my original point that "when you're a musician, your culture is music and nothing else, no race, no colour, just music. " because he used both white and black musicians throughout his career, the only stipulation being that they were good musicians and in particular good at Jazz.
@jbird1130
@jbird1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@pearlblues3665 I agree with you on a lot of what you're saying! And Miles Davis, for all of his many well documented opinions on race, certainly valued skill and obviously loved Bill Evans. Where we disagree is that a musician's culture is only music, free from color and race. That may have been true for you, but it simply wasn't for many, many black musicians who often had to perform in venues where their own family might not be allowed in. Miles was at the height of his career during the Civil Rights movement. All I'm saying, is that in their own words, Miles and Herbie spoke EXTENSIVELY about what music culture was to them, and especially as it related to race and how that affected their life.
@jbird1130
@jbird1130 3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron I'm quoting Miles Davis. Additionally, where did I say anything that contradicts what you're saying? I said that people are free to play and contribute to jazz, but that you have to recognize its origins and where it was popularized. Everyone knows jazz comes from blues, and everyone knows blues originated from black musicians. I don't see anyone in this thread saying that they invented twelve tone equal tempered music and the concept of harmony, go to a ANY library and read ANY book on jazz and they'll tell you its origins. The syncopated rhythms of jazz cannot be found in Western classical (which I also love) anyways. All that aside, the history is the history, and liberal or not, whether I exist at all or not, the history is still there and hasn't changed, well studied and well documented by people you are never going to read, and Miles Davis's words about race and the origins of jazz are still there too. If your point was that black people didn't invent jazz because they're using Western instrument and a Western system, that's like saying America didn't invent the cheeseburger because the grill, the meat, the cheese, and bread were already invented. Sure, they might've, but its the total recontextualization that makes it new. Ironically, as is once again well documented, white scholars of music wrote that jazz music was amusical, grotesque, and artistically worthless at the time that it first became popular, often citing its rejection of the harmonic stylings of people like Mozart and especially Bach. No one here said anyone can or can't play it or even that anyone owns it, but facts are facts.
@superblondeDotOrg
@superblondeDotOrg 10 ай бұрын
go to therapy.
@supremelc3667
@supremelc3667 3 жыл бұрын
Play the margarine ones!
@c.thompson6638
@c.thompson6638 3 жыл бұрын
My jazz buddy stopped playing the butter notes. He's on a health kick and now playing margarine notes. I told him he should play I Can't Believe It's Not Butter to fake everyone out.
@guarddogrecords1
@guarddogrecords1 3 жыл бұрын
The purity of the search- awesome distillation of the art of jam. Woof woof. Sincerely, Guard Dog Records
@rykson161
@rykson161 3 жыл бұрын
Miles simply asked him to change ! It’s that simple ! Sometimes we need a little kick in the ass ,
@253goon
@253goon 27 күн бұрын
Don’t play the butter notes don’t play the easy notes
@traildoggy
@traildoggy 3 жыл бұрын
Miles had recently switched to margarine.
@Phlizz
@Phlizz 3 жыл бұрын
He actually said „don’t play the bottom notes...“ meaning leaving bass key out, so the band would sound tighter. Herbie confirms himself in a different video.
@C.Hawkshaw
@C.Hawkshaw 3 жыл бұрын
nice!
@batmandeltaforce
@batmandeltaforce 3 жыл бұрын
Theory... The Minor Pentatonic Scale leaves 2 notes out of the Major Scale. "That" is what makes it work with other "Modes" so well. I "think" maybe he may have been talking about those. Otherwise you have to be very careful where and how you use them to stay "Modally" correct. Sometimes you can include them and sometimes not, depending on the tune. One example of that is the song "Little Wing" - Jimi Hendrix. If you include the "Butter Notes", you MUST change "Modes" with the chord changes and if you don't it sounds funny. Maybe?
@MetalizedButt
@MetalizedButt 3 жыл бұрын
I think dont play the butter notes was code word for let’s do some cocaine
@colindowns6580
@colindowns6580 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t play the bottom notes!
@audiowanderer
@audiowanderer 3 жыл бұрын
Here is my educated guess... Don't play the butter notes must refer to don't insist on notes played too much on the keyboard. After lot of playing, a piano keyboard have some distinctive stains produced by the sweat of the player on his/her hands. This could be the butter to avoid, the most usual notes played on the piano.
@NahmakantaCamps
@NahmakantaCamps 3 жыл бұрын
don't play what you think they want to hear
@DJFLDJFL
@DJFLDJFL 3 жыл бұрын
This is really pissing me off. I've been incredibly frustrated since I watched this video. I believe my playing may be 40% butter notes. I have no idea how to stop without spending more time than I have. But all I can hear now is butter notes. 35 years I haven't really cared all that much...now it's all I hear. Thanks Herbie!
@nunchuk5doe553
@nunchuk5doe553 3 жыл бұрын
i need to vent because i grew up in the 70s and 80s when a lot of interracial love was going on.it left me angre
@fluidjazz
@fluidjazz 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch Herbies award winning performance of a song for you, I like to think the message was passed on to Christina Aguilera, because he subtly plays cords and runs that gave her less opportunities to oversinging the song as she normally does and made it one of her best performances. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGSnlWaGir-ontU
@dard4642
@dard4642 3 жыл бұрын
They cut this short. I've heard the rest of this story and, like many of the jokes here in the comment section, that isn't actually what Miles said. Miles leaned over just before Herbie's solo and whispered "Don't play the bottom notes." He learned that later that night but the revelation was already there and Hancock attributes the way he plays now to that misunderstanding.
@PinacoladaMatthew
@PinacoladaMatthew 9 ай бұрын
the 3rds.....too easy.... too rich...too good lol, in order words, too "butter" XD
@ypolchenko-freejazz-guitar
@ypolchenko-freejazz-guitar 3 жыл бұрын
.. butter goes to the trumpet, but bread to the piano.
@erickborling1302
@erickborling1302 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear more precisely what that sounded like.
@dulistanheman
@dulistanheman 3 жыл бұрын
Based on my breakfast, the butter is right in the middle of my bread.
@HeIsNakedLunch
@HeIsNakedLunch 3 жыл бұрын
Deductive reasoning, by Jose, I think he’s got it! But seriously, I’m trying to think of who’s ever given me any good advice and I can’t really think of anyone. Or, expanding the term, advice, into a practical nonverbal sense, advice, has come to in terms of good job opportunities: from learning to be a real barista to learning the ins and outs of the grocery business. Nowadays, though, I’m grappling with a transition from an out-of-work worker to an entrepreneur and business leader - while it isn’t actually overwhelming, it does feel entirely like a lonely world. It’s a tedium, I’m in - will I bite the dust or will I eventually get my proposal out to enough eyeballs and ears for flint to crackle a brush? I’ve been ready to bite it since 2012...
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