HERE IS YOUR DCS 2.9 OPEN BETA UPSCALING CHECKLIST - This Makes It Flyable While We Await The HotFix

"Ignore the man behind the curtain" moment as I had a Typo on the Thumbnail and step one slide...oops, sorry about that. Thanks for watching!
After watching this video, go to the FAQ page in the link below. The end of the video has a link to @Jabbers video on 2.9 DLSS that I found helpful and it was nice to see him covering DCS content again. Most importantly, share tips on what you discovered that helps in an effort to help the entire community. And as always, if you like, subscribe, and share, it will go a long way to getting this information out to those who need it the most. Cheers!
~ Juice
2.9 FAQ: forum.dcs.world/topic/335368-...
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[@rogerlavender01]

Thanks for this video and the one on settings. It was a great help.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Glad it helped! I'm testing the process now of flying all my maps in different conditions to build the shader cache if I'm using that term correctly. I'll have to do it when the next patch comes out, but it will be a good test to see if it helps.

[@Yorickkinda]

Excellent video, I’m going to do that shader deletion tip and see how it improves, maybe the VR performance will continue to improve over time whilst it compiles everything together

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

"Ignore the man behind the curtain" moment as I had a Typo on the Thumbnail and step one slide...oops, sorry about that. Thanks for watching!

[@callsignnictmere465]

Thanks for the DETAILED instructions. I would have never known otherwise. 👍

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

After doing the changes, let me know. How works for you.

[@davidhermosilla6942]

Another great video! thanks! Now I have to go for the nvidia update and check!!!

[@november5945]

This is needed! I've been head down in the graphics, I couldn't even tell you what's new as far as everything else they changed😂

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Wait, you’re right…where did I put that changlog again?

[@november5945]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP there is a meme in this somewhere😂 What she thinks he is thinking about, what he is actually thinking about😂

[@bulletstop100]

I did not know to delete those. So glad I did. Thank you so much Juice!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Glad I could help! My problem is I learn stuff and then I forget it a year later lol. What were we talking about? 🤪

[@lwrcfng4497]

Juice, the last portion regarding allowing time for DCS engine to sample the terrain (and also for different time of the day,at be applies to different seasons, too) for purpose of creating representative FXO files so that the needed cache is already there in both folders. I made the habit of deleting the shaders within both FXO and Metashaders folders where ever I change resolution, and also BEFORE performing any game updates. However, I never connected the dots that the it will be wise to fly around and let the game sample out the scenery presentation for purpose of shoring up shader CACHE for quicker performance. Legitimately beat explanation. I'm sure this will help countless when they tried it all, so to say, but can't seems to address their game stuttering. Cheers, and thank you!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thank you to for adding the information. I wondered why mine seemed to improve as time passed. Good stuff.

[@mikekitchen9413]

Awesome video. ALL persons about to install 2.9 really should watch this. I've put a link up into the forums to say as much

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Share it, thumbs up it, help others see it. BUT, everyone needs to really learn DCS in's and out's to really understand how powerful this simulation is, and it's only getting better. Thank you for ringing in sir. ~Juice-Actual

[@glennkamers]

Thanks for the info.

[@Wilko601st]

Thank you for this I had no idea about the files and will have a tinker later 👍

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

No problem 👍

[@Wilko601st]

​@@AIRWARFAREGROUPjust to add used DDU to remove all Nvidia drivers and following your set up. I have to say everything looks alot cleaner. I'm currently now loading missions on all my maps to give it some data 👍

[@homeworxchannel4120]

You are the man! I have never heard of deleting those files!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

So glad to spread the word. Share this with others and research it further. Everyone makes the DCS community better!!

[@TheRaptorXX]

Nice one Juice! The 'Robin Hood' of the DCS community!! 👍

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Oh yeah! Rob from the rich, and keep for myself 😉

[@bigandy234]

thank you very much great improvement

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Glad it helped...it's not for everyone...Commodore 64 users seem to be having the hardest times.

[@FACrazyCanuck]

Thanks for the vid. When I was growing up it was “Radar Love”, not Mustang love. 😉

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Right on! Me too...I'm a mid-1963 model.

[@FACrazyCanuck]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP ditto.

[@byronswart7017]

My tip. Don’t upscale unless you absolutely have to! DLAA on its own with a perhaps a smidge of sharpening will give you the best picture quality possible, no problems with SSS enabled and minimal ghosting. If you struggle with performance, then start upscaling with DLSS and bringing in the sharpening as desired. Hope this helps for some.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I might add, or if you really have the ability to do so, it really depends on your system capabilities. GALT tried to run the DLAA and had some really bad issues. He and I went through in dialed in his system last night, he now has good performance on his semi old laptop with VR.

[@Pricklyhedgehog72]

Does your wife know about, Nick? There's a bromance going on...

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

No, but like her, he just tolerates me 😜

[@kaz5707]

appreciate the vid!

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

Is there a checkbox to enable multithreading? I was under the impression it was automatic. Great tips. Going to fly for an hour straight in all maps/conditions and multiple planes. We shall see...

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

So prior till 2.9, launching the DCS shortcut launched you into regular 2.8, and you had to select the multithreading shortcut from the bin folder. Now they have flip-flopped and launching from the DCS shortcut launches you if you’re running open beta or have elected the open beta on Steam. On Steam, you have to go and activate the multithreading one, but in the standalone it’s automatic, unless you go into the bin folder and run regular. Would that sound confusing or what?

[@Rogeroverandout61]

Hi Juice, have you tried the AH-64D ? Or any helicopter, not sure wether it’s because you’re flying slower but the stutter is really bad. I’ve done everything you suggest and I’ve flown on multiple maps but still the same to the point I’ve given up for now. The Viper is fine but again the speeds are faster, there is slight very marginal stutter but you can live with it, but not so with the Apache. 😢 7:03

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thanks, I'll give it a try...I have not yet. Apache is next.

[@johngray3449]

Don't the rotors cast shadows, try turning that off.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I have a video coming out that I shot yesterday that shows me in the Apache on the Mariana islands map with the settings that I’ve been showing in my videos. It’ll be out in a few hours.

[@Rogeroverandout61]

Hey Juice still looking into this as I’m still not happy with the Apache, have you heard or tried CPU parking, apparently this improves the stutter. CPU parking is apparently something Microsoft use to aid battery life for laptops and is not required on PC……apparently. I’m no expert just thought I’d put it out there. Thanks 👍

[@harrysmith1986]

Take it your running the merlin sound mod, do you have to re install it when you update Dcs to 2.9? Cheers

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I have the E19 Mods for Mustang, Spitfire, Hornet, and Viper and they go in my Saved Games folder so I didn't have to do anything...it seems to be working okay. Are you using the same? Check out the sounds in the SPIT OIL CHANGE VIDEO from a couple of days ago.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Porn for Warbird Lovers! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmSQgJuqm92XnZosi=vMp4ymRrFJp8IyDs

[@airgunner8371]

Ive got the settings bang on! After many hour's of experimenting however barrel rolls just do not feel smooth with some juddering. NOTE TO PILOTS. If playing and you have tweaked settings in the NVIDIA control panel make sure you restore the settings back to default. It made a massive difference and i gained back 50fps

[@davidjames7382]

Damn really? I just adjusted settings several days before the update came out. Have a rtx 4080 OC edition. I fly in vr and openxr. Was making the adjustments for vr and gpu.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I hear OPENXR is the way to go and SteamVR not so much...thanks. The shaders/fxo is probably the biggest tip I got during this.

[@davidjames7382]

@AIRWARFAREGROUP I wonder if I need to delete what you recommended Juice. I haven't even been up in the air yet ( until I move into my new place first week of November).

[@Haribo211]

@@davidjames7382 Fxo and Metashaders purge is pretty much a must whenever a big DCS update gets released, especially one that has anything to do with graphics. I tend to do it after every single update anyway, just as a precaution.

[@davidjames7382]

@@Haribo211 ok thanks sir

[@bukhariali71]

That’s some great advice. I just tried it using FSR since I don’t have a RTX card. It freaking looks amazing apart from the ghosting. So if I just do solo flights like it’s MSFS or Xplane then it looks photo realistic. But otherwise it’s a no go for me right now. I guess I have to eventually upgrade.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

What are your hardware specs?

[@bukhariali71]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Intel i7 9750 GTX 1660Ti 32 GB RAM 1 TB MVME SSD TM warthog stick/throttle and TM Pendular Rudders TrackIR

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thanks, an RTX 30 series GPU might help a bit. I build on average every 4 years and I always try to get what "just got replaced" on sale at the end of the summer. Like my 2018 build, that was after using my 2011 build with upgrades for 7 years. I bought the EVGA 1080Ti for $649 in 2018 to and it rocked well, still is as my daughter's PC. My 2022 build was exactly 4 years later and I bought an EVGA 3080Ti right when the 40-Series GPU hit the market. I'm thinking that will take me to retirement in a few years. I'll tell you about my retirement plan...someday.

[@bukhariali71]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUPI bought it in 2020 when Covid hit. It has served me well and runs DCS at mostly high settings @ 1080p res but it is showing its limitations now.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

And you have to realize that DCS is special. It’s not like any other simple video games like war, thunder, or IL-2 that give you very little cockpit interaction and ability to use all of the functions, or at least most of them like radar, MFD’s information, management systems, transponder, and the list goes on. So many people come to DCS World thinking it’s gonna be easy and it’s not. I learned the power of a PC in the ARMA days and now build my DCS PCs for the future

[@blimeythatwasclose]

I would add that I had all the stutters etc untill I unparked my cpu cores. The MT cores were parked but changed these to always on and now the game runs great.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Link me on Discord please. juice_awg

[@plazma1945]

Great video concise and to the point!

[@FamousLanding]

I am having issues even opening up the replay session. Have you encountered anything like that before?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I have not had any issue and I am using Replay Track Files for my videos. Tell me more about what you are experiencing...details?

[@iammorpheus7345]

Great video, I have one question. I deleted my metashader and the FXO sub files and now my game is not launching or will crash when selecting a flight mode. Did I miss something? Thanks again.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

right click your windows start menu, hit search and type in repair and one of the options that will pop up as repair. DCS World. Run that. When you deleted the FX oh and meta-shaders, you did it from the saved games folder, right not the DCS game files on the install right?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It does take time to load after doing that files removal...are you letting it load without hitting buttons?

[@iammorpheus7345]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP lol yep it was the game files from. That was my issue my fault. I Uninstall the game and re-installed it. Let's see if that works.

[@iammorpheus7345]

​@@AIRWARFAREGROUPhey thanks for the help it working great so. If I wanted to delete those files I would do it from the saved files correct?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yes. Saved Games DCS folder.

[@imod1957]

For Nvidia 3080Ti, should Studio or game driver be installed for DCS version 2.9?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I have 3080Ti and am using the latest driver from Nvidia for 2.9 with no problems.

[@imod1957]

Game Ready Driver or Studio Driver? Which of the two do you use for DCS? I would have liked that. @@AIRWARFAREGROUP

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Game ready.

[@nickgrey4136]

Very helpful video Juice, clear and concise. Many thanks and kind regards Nick

[@michaelgerson5267]

Where did you find the Miss Kandy skin for the p51? please....

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Our skin guy Cabi~ made it! Miss Kandy is my wife.

[@michaelgerson5267]

share?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Check out our community tab in a few...I'll see what I can do.

[@michaelgerson5267]

Thank you

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Dear sir...check this out and Thumbs it UP. As soon as they are finalized, I'll put them on our AWG User Files where you can get lots of our stuff. Missions, Checklists, and More. kzbin.infoUgkxE5eBihalY1jmrnjZqg-k_ziUA1wLr5fo

[@Nick-xe2hu]

The Mustang howl is awesome

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Love the DCS sound but I’m using Echo One Niner Sounds. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4SZfoiafrmUndUsi=K1TUUUyo0sMMUakU

[@crowson1073]

Is the Normandy map not available on the 2.9?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It is available for all versions.

[@crowson1073]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP oh ok weird, I couldnt access any Normany map on 2.9 but latest update its back. Thanks for the reply, have a good day.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Happy Flying!

[@Sirderpingtonthefirst]

Can i do any of this with my GTX 780 TI or am I like screwed?

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

You can delete your FXO and meta-shaders but you cannot take it. Vantage of the LSS as you do not have an RTX card. There are other options for super sampling that you can choose that are still in the game. It’s not locking you out.

[@Virtual-VMF-214-Black-Sheep]

Yea was bummed when I found out it’s tied to rtx. Which I do not have. Next up figure out the in game radio voip. What a pain it’s been.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It’s gonna be nice when the radio is working, but it’s not where it needs to be for me to switch from SRS yet. One the full functionality of all the Hornet radios is it model jet for the new VoIP

[@Virtual-VMF-214-Black-Sheep]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP exactly. We got it working in p47 but it was fiddly. And couldn’t switch channels. I want it to work bad but it has to be easier to use. Just join and tune radio and it works. Sadly it’s hard to get everyone on srs when larger group event is held so we stick to discord mixed in.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It's perfect for WWII radios and most other aircraft.

[@davidjames7382]

Cool Juice! Wonder how everything work with a RTX 4080 OC edition gpu?? Lol😊

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Show off! LOL

[@davidjames7382]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP lmmfao

[@davidjames7382]

@AIRWARFAREGROUP I received a great deal on the 4080....right before the prices jumped...there was no fricken way I could justify to pay for a 4090.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

That sounds pretty sweet. I got one of the last EVGA 3080 TI’s right before they stopped making them at about 800 bucks. I thought about the 4090 but my local fire codes wouldn’t allow it.

[@davidjames7382]

@AIRWARFAREGROUP lol! Yeah I agree..almost $2k for a 4090 and most of them ( back in August) were out of stock. Think I told you, was able to get the 4080 oc edition for $1100 ( and $100 off). Still has 16gb of VRAM for 4k ( if I ever go that route). I also shared your video on several squadrons on Discord..to get your channel some views.

[@gamertank1987]

its an AI Learning addon so it will do as it must so it learns then do as required

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Thanks for the input 😉 much appreciated!

[@tonyascaso6254]

It's 2023, why do we have to go through these gymnastics? My 2.8 ran beautifully, smoothly and fast!

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It’s quite simple…So we can get to 2024 and beyond. You can always go to 2.8 over at Stable DCS.

[@cowansimstudio]

​@@AIRWARFAREGROUPCheek of this. Sounds like a moderator on ED Forums 😂

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I think many people accidentally found DCS world as they thought it was a video game. I think it clearly indicates in the open beta that it is an experimental build just like you can do for DayZ and other games. But when time moves on, and new things become available in the industry, you can’t build those behind closed doors and not give access to the public. The public has the responsibility of owning up to their decision to either download open beta or stable. It’s probably the highest form of maturity in the gaming community.

[@Gunfreak19]

I found I get the best effects by simply turn off DLAA and DLSS, but turn on all the shadow effects. And I have about the same FPS as before the 2.9 patch but it looks even better than it did. DLAA takes 10FPS from me, DLSS quality gives me between zero and 5 FPS extra but looks worse. so I just turned it all off, but turned on SSS and added secondary shadows etc. and it looks great and I get the same FPS as I did in 2.8 without the highest shadow settings.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Seems like what I expected...people with different PC capabilities and preferences will have different desired settings and results. FPS really isn't an issue unless it's too low. I could get 180 FPS all the time, constantly, if I turned down my settings and raised the MAXFPS settings in my graphics.lua file within DCS. But for the VR users, I'm sorry, I don't feel your pain. The really benefit of MT and all of the changes we are just seeing coming (but wait, there's more) to be released later in 2024 will be for the future of DCS World, not the past. I do apologize if I seem insensitive to the "gamers" following our channel, but the main reason I came back to DCS was because it's moving into the direction that drew me to the platform in the first place...it's not a mere video game is why I love this software. ~ Juice

[@dishdoggiegaming7254]

So with 2.9 and being ME (not well informed most of the time lol) My first learning lesson on FACTS of DCS 2.9 is the game is only running DirectX 11 and can not use DirectX 12 so you get No M.T. DirectX 12 ability You get No Ray Tracing and DirectX 11 does not support DLSS 3.0 Frame Generation. I have a 4090 and only play in VR on a HP G2 (OMG I am still testing every way to run DCS) to this day. I still can't say for sure if I feel better for DCS or My hipe of what I thought it would be was My Issue being not well informed most of the time. You can Run dxdiag from start button search to check your DirectX version on the 2nd page make sure you have No Problems with DirectX it is Backwards Compatible with 11 if you have 12 Don't worry about the version.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Running great for me at the moment. Yes, very true...DCS World is on DX11 and I spoke with (ED) Ben yesterday on that very topic. EDGE was written before DX12 so I'm not going to complain to Microsoft for doing this to us. It is what it is and we will survive.

[@yhdez85]

For the stutters you might want to try “unparking your cores in Windows”

[@rc3754]

And that means?

[@CAL1MBO]

Total bollocks

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I did that in the past but I’m hearing it is a windows 7 legacy issue??? Have to check more into it.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

After researching Win11 unparking cores, I realized that the millisecond needed to automatically unpark isn't a concern for most users. If you have adequate RAM, GPU power, and a decent system on SSD, the time it takes is not a factor for me. I can see how it might help others...thanks for the tip.

[@mastergunner309]

This will help delete those files safely and backup all your controls and configs prior to an update

[@mastergunner309]

Guess my link got removed. Just search for Witching Utility DCS

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I'll see if I can find it...didn't get any links...I'll check waiting for review section. Thanks.

[@ComdrStew]

Not using DLSS and get stutters on other planes, like the refueler. I guess that is what is getting fixed.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Stuttering is not related to DLS S.

[@ComdrStew]

@AIRWARFAREGROUP What I figured since I still had it with DLSS off.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Message me through ED Discord if I can help troubleshoot it.

[@Bronco-1776]

It's a shame ED didn't think about updating DCS for the people who dont have a RTX graphics card

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

They posted their FAQ page the same day for everybody to read.

[@Bronco-1776]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Well...I'll probably be or I can see myself packing warbirds in soon. It's become too expensive to keep up with...to buy top hardware in order to be competitive. Us guys with less than stellar Graphics cards can't spot a 109 until it is already on our 6 .....and it's getting old. The guys with top machines are calling out bogeys and bandits all over the place and I'm going, 'where, I don't see anyone?' .....Your right, DCS is "special" If I can't afford to fly DCS I won't fly at all.

[@davidjames7382]

Whats great I didn't have any files in metashader but had fxo files. Deleted all fxo files. So it should be good to go

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Yep, just make sure you read the FAQ and mess around with your settings. It doesn’t work the same for everybody. But definitely fly around for a half hour or more to get the shader cache loaded.

[@davidjames7382]

@AIRWARFAREGROUP I will and thanks. I won't be up in the air until the first week of November. So I have some time yet. Spudknocker had a video out as well. Hopefully ED will have a "bug" fix update by the time I do my move

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

We'll it's Open Beta for a reason...the bug I know of isn't related to the update, but I'm having no real issues with it now. It will get dialed in over time. Recommend you go 2.8 Stable if it gives you any troubles.

[@davidjames7382]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP i dont have the stable version even installed lol

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

For some, it's a must.

[@jarentz]

I would think your system with a 3080Ti and a 1440p monitor would not need DLSS. You’d probably get decent performance and better graphics without artifacts by just turning it off.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

Probably so...I'm getting 10-15% more FPS with it on, but I'm not a big FPS nut as long as I'm getting no lower than 60s with everything maxed out if possible. Thanks for the tips and what an amazing time to be in to digital combat simulation. My Commodore 64 is rolling over in it's grave right now.

[@dougroberts3840]

Ok, ok, I subscribed, got tired of hearing you beg.....LOL

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I'll sub on yours...look for Sexy Grandpa 69 soon LOL

[@Dexter01992]

Despite my bottleneck being my 3080 (in MT my cpu runs at 25%), the DLSS is making barely any difference for VR usage. -.-;

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

🫡 I wish I knew what all that meant 😊

[@northblue8216]

...and you forgot to turn up the volume for the engine. smh.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

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[@Flieger5000]

I was considering DCS, but I gave up. Too demanding, buggy, and not enough ww2 aircraft and resources.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

It’s definitely not for everyone. What’s your go-to favorite for WWII these days?

[@Flieger5000]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP IL-2 was my all-time favourite.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

IL2 is a must for WWII gamers who want the period experience and multi-airframe enrichment at a decent price. It’s not so hard to get started, set up controls and gives hours of eye candy and fun. I’m not experienced with it but I imagine it helps keep the kids away from the DCS community.

[@Kevin-sg5xc]

Step 1: Own an NVIDIA card Step 2: Don't own an AMD card

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I should pin this comment...classic!

[@Kevin-sg5xc]

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP haha. I'm just salty cause I have an AMD card 😆

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

😜

[@prodigalglenn]

Hey buddy, great video. thank you . Hope you are well. Can you give me a resourse as to how to determine whether I am running in multithreading? I have the same rig as you.

[@googlyeyedbeast4238]

It will say multi threaded preview, bottom right of the main screen when you launch the game.

[@AIRWARFAREGROUP]

I guess steam users have to check the option in the launch profile. But are you running standalone and if you’re running 2.9 open beta, the default launch is multi thread. The shortcut that is inside your bin folder is now the standard shortcut.