Here's how a 17-year-old Toyota Sienna holds up to the NEW 2021 Hybrid Sienna...You'll be Surprised!

[@Diggin00]

I have a 2004 Sienna for my commuter car. 270,000 miles and I can’t believe how well it still drives. Driver seat looks like it has 10K miles on it. Second gen is solid

[@TobyCostaRica]

My dad put 400k on his 04, and sold it for $5k after. Interior was beat up too. Felt way more solid than my 2021.

[@dhowar]

I guess you changed the timing belt at 100k miles. Did you ever change the water pump. I changed the water pump on my 2007 Sienna at 97K. The only thing. 3.5 liter

[@bobstorr4986]

@@TobyCostaRica Probably due to the tires...Toyota puts crap tires on their cars.

[@jedinlow5884]

It’s seems most older Toyota’s last a long time I have a 2000 Toyota Solara and that things runs like a beast with mileage at 201,987

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

@@TobyCostaRica we have a 2008! 312.000. Miles! You can't even hear👂👂the engine on! Solid great VAN

[@Tarkov.]

Someone at Toyota needs to be told that the Sienna doesn't need a speedo that goes to 160.

[@wileecoyote5749]

It's in Pesos

[@marcmiyamoto]

Yeah why doesn’t it go up to 220??

[@ballisticmissl7919]

In the UK here we have the much smaller, cheaper minivan called the verso with a 160 mph speedo. The fastest model does 118.

[@gundymetre7571]

ikr, it needs to be much higher

[@darius3235]

@@ballisticmissl7919 There's also the Avanza in South America.

[@nickknee3515]

Now I know why I still see tons of these old Siennas on the road, them things are loaded.

[@Xander1Sheridan]

minivans have been luxury cruisers for a long time. These ones don't have many features compared to top of the line ones. There is a reason the top of the line minivans are now all $50k.

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

i am Vietnamese and in Vietnamese plazas you will literally see these vans everywhere

[@perryrbx]

They last a TON. Very durable.

[@ballisticmissl7919]

In the UK, mpvs (minivans) have never had a luxurious status (probably one of the reasons they are disappearing so quickly). In continental Europe, there is one luxurious mpv called the Renault espace. You can configure it to be over 70,000 euros. But that's really it

[@GanDtech]

Friend has a XLE it’s loaded af

[@madcowusa4277]

2006 owner. Great van. Inadvertently received it over time after kids grew up and wife basically took over my car as her own. Use it for my rentals these days because it carries full sheets of plywood and drywall plus tools. Took me 3 years of ownership to notice the hidden arm rest storage - I store my wallet or firearm in there as thieves would simply pass over it. About 8 years ago my kid lost her tablet and it has been an unsolved mystery ever since. Well, past summer I was vacuuming up construction debris in the van and found the long missing tablet in the hidden drawer under the passenger seat! I had no idea it existed. 221,000 miles now, running great, and btw tablet still worked and it was hilarious watching the old videos stored on the device.

[@juanumana7461]

My 04 sienna has 324k miles.... still running strong.. 🤟

[@Oilers007]

How’s your sienna holding up? Just got an 08 love hearing about people’s high mileage siennas

[@KirkKreifels]

Forgot to mention that the new Sienna drives worlds better. Strong brakes, Handles great in corners. CVT is smooth and responsive compared to the 5 - speed. BUT the v6 is smoother and less vibration under medium load. Both are quiet, especially the hybrid when not being stressed. Hope this helps!

[@peterruedig4647]

Unless the 2nd gen has new shocks, springs, rotors and pads, that could very well be due to age. I recently replaced all of those with OE parts on mine, and it feels incredible, tighter and smoother, just like a new car

[@KirkKreifels]

I'm replacing rotors and pads this weekend. It does need new struts. That'll be next

[@dudeonbike800]

@@peterruedig4647 even so, the biggest flaw on the second gen were indeed the brakes. I just remind myself I'm not in a Porsche when it comes time to stop. And yes, I've maintained & replaced brakes & suspension as necessary. The brakes are marginal at their best.

[@troystocker6179]

@@dudeonbike800 I installed a set of Akebono brake pads on my 04 XLE, it stops better now

[@vlrdmtr]

Curious, why did you pick FWD ?? I like you own a 2008 Sienna AWD - XSE , only difference is I reserved a AWD. The salesperson asked me why AWD , his opinion was the FWD is the way to go .. Any thoughts??? I want to change my mind before too late :) Thank you!!!

[@jlam6449]

People always give me looks when I say that I low key love my parent's 04 Sienna XLE Limited that they bought new before I entered high school. I got my permit in it, we toured universities in it, helped me move in/out of school, helped me w/ multiple apt moves as an adult, road trips, home depot runs, etc. etc. And it currently has only 80,000 miles for a 17 year old car so it's going to last till we go extinct. Thankfully I have a 440i 6MT w/ an exhaust to redeem my street cred but I will always adore that van.

[@surfside75]

Love my pearl white 05 customer optioned 1owner Sienna. So fast but now that I removed the second row and pass side jumper seat .. This thing is getting converted into a camper using nice light weight birch and pine. Bar sink, hot water, wood floor, fridge etc.. Wish me luck, the floor is going to be the hardest part!!😔

[@kenny6281]

do your parents want to sell their sienna lol

[@NikitaUSA]

@@surfside75получилось ?)

[@nf1369]

SECOND GENERATION TOYOTA SIENNA GANG LET'S GOOO!

[@peterruedig4647]

2nd gen still looks aggressive and sporty, 3rd looked fat and bloated, 4th gen looks best, just a little fussy. Still will keep my 2nd gen forever

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

My dad sold our 2013 Toyota Sienna SE to use my uncle's 2007 Toyota Sienna CE since it was free and yeah my uncle died that's why we're using his van...

[@jonkrispeterson6678]

Had a 2004 Sienna XLE AWD. It was pretty good. We drove 182k after 11 years. Did well in the snow, and I think it is still driving. Cons? Automatic doors wouldn’t shut in winter all the way in winter, and car would beep while driving, rear bumper tabs failed driving down the interstate, and we were dragging bumper down interstate, had to temp fix with duct tape, seat heaters failed, passenger window failed. Replaced with 2015 Highlander. 150k repair free miles. Nothing has failed yet.

[@yes8032]

Honestly the old sienna looks like a 2008 car which is a good thing

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

Another car that's aged well? 3rd generation 4runners, in nice shape they look like they came right off the lot. I think they have aged better than the 4th gens

[@gavcom4060]

well because the 2008 sienna IS the 2004 version

[@Poopsticle_256]

@@gavcom4060 Well technically they facelifted it in 2006

[@jxmar_]

@@Poopsticle_256 and gave it a significantly more powerful engine

[@jimmywilliams9754]

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv l n. .m.m .

[@seikocitizenwatches]

I love the Sienna, mine is 2005 with 303K miles. Very comfortable for all around transportation and great for long trips. This van is among the most reliable vehicles out there.

[@jimbob4456]

We still have our 2005 too. An LE. Very comfortable. I can drive all day in it. New car seats seem harsher. Or I’m getting older. I found a 2005 LE with 61,000 miles. I wanted to buy it soooo bad. Wifey says no. 😢

[@cutehumor]

change oil and drive it until the engine blows.

[@hedgehogthesonic3181]

No transmission issues on yours with 303,000 miles?

[@seikocitizenwatches]

@@hedgehogthesonic3181 transmission, engine & AC have been working perfectly since new and Dealer says it some transmission leaks but I don’t see any thing on the ground so I’m not concerned. Incredibly the suspension is still original although dealer recommends replacing struts but again, I don’t see the need for replacing struts yet because it still handles great and no tire cupping or uneven wear found. No electrical issues and fuel injection issues, it still has the original fuel pump. Seats are soft and cushy and in excellent condition. Paint is acceptable but still original. Dealer replaced the dashboard free of charge in 2015 at around 200k miles because they found a small crack on passenger side and said it should not crack after 10 years or 200K lol 😂. My favorite road trip vehicle because of its 400-450 miles range between fill ups and there’s so much space for people and luggage.

[@hedgehogthesonic3181]

@@seikocitizenwatches That's very impressive, Siennas seem to be among the most reliable cars made by Toyota, What about the mpg?

[@drticzon]

I have the 2006 Limited Sienna AWD, which is considered the best year for this Sienna generation. It has only 78K miles on it (99% freeway miles). It comes out only for a long trip. Otherwise, it sits in the garage under a cover. It has gone all over the western United States. it one time saved our lives as we drove down a steep hill that had black ice in Lake Tahoe. Last month I had the original brakes from the factory changed on the front, but the Toyota dealership said that the rear brakes were barely worn and do not need to be changed. Service is always done at the dealership and the service advisors all admire my Sienna. My Sienna did not come with “Fix a Flat”. It came with only with run flat tires, no spare tire.

[@WLDefisher]

Love this guy's enthusiasm about the old sienna. I just got a used 2012 sienna since the family is expanding. I was bragging about all it's features and reliability to my friends haha

[@lifelonglearner5170]

I like the 2021 Sienna. I have another Toyota hybrid and the quality is the best. My 2004 Sienna with 190K won’t die so I have a hard time moving to the newest generation Sienna.

[@AB-nv7bz]

Only 100k miles to go. LOL. My parents were so upset when their 2004 sequoia got totaled last year. Still have the 2004 Avalon though. Still the best highway cruiser i have even rode in (that includes my 2016 S6), handling is terrible but its a cruiser.

[@mschrage618]

I just bought my ‘06 FWD LE. 250k miles, one owner, garage kept, for $1,000. It’s gonna be my new daily driver/weekend getaway rig. So far it’s impressed me.

[@bbwalk100]

Keep up the maintenance and your Toyota Sienna, can last up to 600,000.00 miles. A youtuber, post a video (2021), of her 2004 Toyota Sienna, with 601,000.00 miles.

[@Bum_Hip]

The efficiency of these two minivans has doubled over the past 17 years. From 18 mpg, up to 36 mpg. Plus, adjusted for inflation, the new van is $10,000 cheaper than the old one. Overall, I’m pretty impressed with the advancement.

[@morganwheeler7417]

Hah, the efficiency stayed almost exactly the same for 16 yrs and then doubled in one year.

[@zimmejoc]

but did you see the average on the screen when he was showing the speedo area was only 23.6? It's at 7:17 where you can see it.

[@allenfsanchez9572]

wait till the maintenance costs for the hybrid come in, or when one of the batteries breaks down outside of warrantee

[@Mshi-]

@@allenfsanchez9572 they'll never understand

[@TobyCostaRica]

@@allenfsanchez9572 Toyota hybrids are some of the most reliable Toyotas made. Taxi drivers push Prius/hybrid Camrys hard and fleet data shows usage to 300-400k no problems in NYC taxis. If you ever ridden in a NYC taxi you’ll know that’s severe duty 300-400k

[@yes-mf7ql]

We used to have a 2008 Toyota Sienna Limited, which we then got rid of in 2019 and upgraded to the 2020 Lincoln Navigator. But seriously, that Sienna literally held up through anything, and was so damn fast.

[@Zuiyo1974]

Lexus needs to hook you up. It does not compute that such a Toyota / Lexus dedicated enthusiast and journalist can't have one Lexus in his fleet.

[@eivis13]

I've once heard a joke about Toyota and Lexus vehicles. A Lexus is just a Toyota with better soundproofing. Rather than giving him a Lexus i think they should make his Prius into something more comfortable (softer seats, more leather/faux leather, better stereo, suspension upgrade, rattle fixes, etc.)

[@farhanhussain5937]

@@eivis13 nah Lexus is not an upgraded prius. It's much more than that hence it competes with other luxury brands.

[@埼玉はぱ]

Well, he promotes the Korean brands now which is the competition, so I don't think Lexus should have to do anything for him.

[@andyleo8418]

What kind of "journalist" would he be if he took free stuff from brands?

[@dontcare563]

@@eivis13 Maybe you heard that BUT most of the people saying that never owned a Lexus and can't afford them!

[@noobie7522]

I have an 05 Sienna XLE Limited Mirage Blue and I can’t express how good of a van it is.

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

It's got a rubber timing chain. Expense to replace. So we went with a 2008. Steel chain

[@stevenaberg513]

My daily driver is an 04 Sienna LE, 2wd. 274k miles and counting. Did struts, tie rods and sway bar links at 240k, other than that, just oil changes and brakes. I love it. It’s comfortable, its fast, it’s good in the snow, it can carry full sheets of plywood, and it gets 24 mpg. I put 120 miles a day on it commuting to work and back, and the interior looks the same as it did in 2004, nothing has worn out or broken, even the power doors work fine. It was well designed and well built, as a Toyota should be. All that to say I don’t think we’ll be saying the same thing about the 2021 Sienna in 17 years, which is a real shame.

[@amysolley4268]

DAMN RIGHT the old Siennas are bad ass though! I still love mine.

[@surfside75]

I'm converting mine into a camper van😁

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

@@surfside75 I heard you need to cut the seats bolts out. To remove them😯😯

[@surfside75]

Not on mine. '05 limited 7 seater. Removed second row and the right side of the rear bench. Kept the left side as a love seat😁

[@chaldeathebrave3743]

*Great video man !!!!!!!* *I have a 2004 Sienna CE and it has been driven for 240,000 km. I got it in November 2018 and we are 6 members. This van .. if it is not a grace from God, then I don't know what it is! It drives us everywhere and never let us down in terms of reliability and holding up to the extreme cold Canadian weather.* *My uncle also had a 2004 Sienna CE. Bought it for $4,000 CAD, owned it for a year and then sold it again for $4,000 CAD to a friend that insisted to buy it for any price.. lololololollyy* *Thanks for the upload. I am a 22 years old Iraqi resident who loves the Japanese cars. When I saw this Sienna video is 5 days old, I said I must say something. I said a lot of things haha.*

[@wl9399]

Stay safe and all the best to you and your family.

[@DavidisNice]

I haven’t gotten into the new Sienna but I bet that 2004’s quality built is better.

[@wildkatz84]

2004-2006 was Toyota at its peak.

[@williamtippins3651]

My 2012 has been problematic ......

[@rslager4]

We have a 2000 sienna with 282,000 miles, runs great. Everything works just fine.

[@lyndapillaca1381]

I have a 2005 sienna that we are the only owners. Has almost 300k miles on it and doesnt burn any oil and still drives great. Best car ever!

[@jonny-mj5jl]

you ever change the transmission fluid ?

[@ryanperkins1594]

My '04 XLE Limited AWD has 197,000 and running strong. Looking to convert the old girl into an overland camper soon.

[@jushirocketyushi4343]

i have a 2007 sienna at 260k miles and runs perfectly good the slide door is now partly auto but asides that functions perfectly

[@JediSuPhu]

Sad to see the newer model loses so much of the utility that the old model had. I've taken the seats out of our 2000 Toyota Sienna and hauled lumber and other materials many times over the years for home repairs.

[@madcowusa4277]

4x8 sheets in back with tailgate closed. 10 '+ long boards easily fit diagonally inside with tailgate closed. 16' 2x12 lumber on roof rack for short distances. Also put a 32' ladder up there once. This generation of Sienna is a beast. Wheel barrows, table saw on roller stand, 12" chop saw on stand, 1700lbs of rock veneer stone, roofing, concrete bags. Rains here a lot and Sienna keeps everything dry and secure vs. my truck.

[@mikelang4191]

I was intending on making the same comment. I have a 2007 with 238000 miles on it and it's still going strong. Looks like I'll hang on to it as long as I can. The fact I can haul 4x8 sheets of plywood or drywall or a couch, bed, dresser with the rear door closed is fantastic. I've even hauled a piano laying on it's back and my John Deere riding mower with the seat removed. Not being able to remove the second row ruins it.

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

@@madcowusa4277 It's a work horse

[@johndean8135]

Good video. Just let my 04 Sienna go recently as it just turned 360,000 km, yes that’s km, as l am in Ontario Canada. This van dealt with the salt and snow and crap weather we get here, and NEVER let us down. It was the LE so had mid row captains chairs, and was awesome for travelling with another couple. I needed a truck, and l saw this 2014 Tundra with 350,000 km on it, so obviously it was highway driven. Have had it six months and not a worry in the world about it. I do still miss the Sienna, she took good care of us for 17 years, and is still on the road. May find ourselves in one again some day, but l will look for one that is a few years old. The new one you had there did less for me than your dressed out 04. I swear they were built better. Ours came from Tennessee when we got it. Cheers, and thanks again for the good info.

[@KirkKreifels]

Thank you for sharing your story! The old siennas were special

[@jlkhawaii8542]

"she took good care of us for 17 years and is still on the road" got me all choked up in tears, shows how great a van she was and still is.

[@hukmai]

My family still has out 2007 sienna with over 250k miles, sure it chirps on start up and the power side door lost its slide but the ye'ole sienna is still running strong!!

[@metricdeep8856]

The abundance of cupholders are so you have a secure place to put the last 3 days worth of unfinished coffees.

[@CJ-fh5xq]

We still have our 2006 Toyota Sienna Le that we brought new. It has 180k miles and it's running pretty well. Downside is it eats tires extremely fast, sliding doors needs some persuasion to close, and transmission needs to be flush because it's slipping a bit.

[@chrisb3017]

Really enjoy the 2021 Sienna, the gas mileage and tech is fantastic, but the seats being non removable is a deal breaker. I’ll be keeping my 2014 Sienna it’s a great van and payed for.

[@mikelang4191]

Agree, I've often considered replacing my 2007 Sienna with a new model but not anymore. No removal second row no more purchasing another Sienna.

[@kovalenkoihor4325]

@@mikelang4191 Oh yes. I was hesitating condidering my 2008 to replace with 3rd gen or 4th gen. But no removable seats, which is crazy

[@caningrepair9781]

I have 2004 limited AWD with 190,000 miles on it I love it

[@LDaw_96]

Your 2004 is fancier then my 2006 but I love it. Hauled tons of kids for years. Now that they are grown and gone I have moved them to college and back and to college again. Not to mention hauls from Lowe’s and Costco. It has served us very well. Now I’m converting it into my camper van. Plenty of living to do in my Siena. ;) I’d be way more interested in upgrading if all the seats came out of the new one. I want ALL the access to the cargo/camping space.

[@wl9399]

My story and my plan is exactly the same as yours. Mine is 04 base trim, she has served us well. My kid just graduated this year, no more university move, house reno is done, I am about to retire, so I am going to convert the van into a camper.

[@nabeelmohammed2781]

Old is gold! I just subbed now you’ve helped me so much with getting a van! Just a note I wanted to add - 2004 was the first year of the second gen - it’s truly testament to Toyota’s perfection : they were creating some truly magnificent cars during that era. We’re just losing that emphasis in 2021

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks man! 2021 is the biggest change since the 2004 came out. Once the sienna has a prime option, it will be nearly perfect

[@nabeelmohammed2781]

@@KirkKreifels I couldn’t agree more with you on the DVD system - it’s honestly a great family experience where everyone is able to bond together and have a good time : I don’t believe in individual entertainment screens haha

[@bobstorr4986]

There’s a delay before the lift gate will start to open when you use the kick sensor, to give people time to move out of the way. If you try and kick it again too soon you’ll end up just closing/canceling the opening sequence.

[@brianaschino4903]

Wow so nice to see yours is still running like a champ!

[@CaptainAnytime]

I’ve got an 04 highlander and thing is built like a tank just like the sienna. Great cars.

[@ttinnovations3310]

=) I have a 2004 Toyota Sienna Limited AWD also, 111, 000 miles and every thing still works, ( put Lexus GS 18" wheels on it 245/50r18, drives way more stable and converted all the lights to LED)

[@jhikaru]

206,000 miles on my 2010 Sienna and just replaced the wheel bearing. Super solid van with regular tires and fluid maintenance.

[@khoayeuha]

Same here 2009 Sienna 240,000 miles. Just changed wheel bearing, tie rod, sway bar link as well. Got it aligned. Super smooth. I went ahead and cleaned the throttle body/maf sensor as well.

[@InvestBetter.]

If you got a 21 Limited with AWD, it would probably have the same features as far as wood, soft touch materials, and AWD, more power and twice the MPG. This kind of shows how excellent the 2004 was, and Toyota tried to reproduce that with more power and double the MPG

[@KirkKreifels]

A more fair comparison would've been to the limited or Platinum. Got to play with the cards I've been dealt 😂

[@alvinsimba734]

That 2004 sienna looking back... got more for less whereas today's cars pay more for less

[@jimbob4456]

Yep

[@HN-gj2iq]

39K was a lot of money in 2004, today not so much.

[@CsalbertCs]

The 2004 Sienna is 54k adjusted, he mentioned that in the video. Compared to the newer Sienna he tested which is 46K! I won't lie and say that the new Sienna has it's issues, but with the right mid cycle refresh they'll figure out some of the smaller details (more headroom, better build quality and fit and finish, removable second row seats, more power for the hybrid and hopefully the 12.3in infotainment found in the new Highlander).

[@cbkenison]

You mean more power, safer, quieter, and way more MPG in the newer?

[@hedgehogthesonic3181]

@@cbkenison More reliability too on the hybrid one, due to the simplicity of the planetary gear set that Toyota uses in their hybrids, just 2 electric motors and a few gears, no pressure discs, clutch, fluid valves, none of that.

[@rozsahegyi67]

I could do the same exact comparisons with my vans; 2004 LE, 2022 LE awd. I love them both The hybrid platform is just different, but in good way. I love the fact it runs only when required. I get 33 mpg highway and 40 mpg city. Yes things may feel cheaper in some ways but in the end 99% of all vehicles end up recycled in 20 years. You put the money in the moving components and in areas where it counts. I was born in 1967 and have a excellent account of all the cars throughout the years. Cars today are huge improvement of the past. I can live with cheap carpet and few squeaks, for great gas mileage and advanced safety features. I never thought for second when I purchased my 2004 that I would own it till now and have so few mechanical issues. You can reflect on the past, but not on the future. I will be upgrading my 2022 when the plug in comes in. The gas you save can make up for maintenance in the long run.

[@wl9399]

I also have a 04 sienna, FWD, my van has a cassette player. :) She gets oil change every 5K km, that's about it. Family vacation with our dog every second year, kid activity like pumpkin patch ride, swim meet, ham radio swap meet, taking old furniture and appliances to recycle depot, numerous home depot trips, kid moved to university back and forth etc. We never have any issue with this van. Absolutely love my Sienna. Yes, the gas consumption isn't as good as the latest one, but for $ 35k plus tax and higher insurance for a new one, once i deduct the gas expense differences, that is easily equivalence to 15.000 gallon of gas. My desire of getting a new van immediately cool off. Even my van doesn't smell good, after spending 3k on water pump, timing belt, new sensors, transmission fluid flush, new set of new tires and brake This baby is good to go for many more years. By the way, I even plan to convert this van to a camper, keep using it as a "multiple purpose vehicle".

[@bechtoea]

A few features you missed on your 2004. -Middle row passenger side can be put next to the left seat or it can be put over to the right side. The console can be put between the rear seats and an OEM cup holder can snap into the floor between the front seats. Or, you can go to eBay and buy a 2nd console. The removable consoles allow for long items to be hauled between the front seats. -The hard backed seats are good for when kids spill something or kick the back of the seats. -The 3.3 has only 205 when running on 87 octane but 230 when running on premium. In 2007 they introduced the 3.5, which delivers over 260HP with 87 octane. I am not a fan of the new Sienna. It's a better people hauler, no arguing that but it's not much of a van.

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks for adding your insight!

[@SchmittycocoPop]

I got an 05 an still chugging along. It's beat all to hell but still really drives nice. Yours is in good shape. Cheers!

[@zackgugert8749]

A full spare tire is an option on the new Sienna and most of them are built with them. They're installed in the driver side rear where the "Fix a flat" is located.

[@stephanlevesque7632]

A spare tire is available on the 2021’s, it’s a $75 option I do believe

[@questioner1596]

Unless you go for a vacuum, which takes the same place in the side wall.

[@nelsontubig9644]

Adaptive cruise control on a 2004 sienna amazing I thought only high ends and exotic only have this feature at the time.

[@immabadgamer]

most exotic cars don't have adaptive cruise control system's LOL even the new ones don't.

[@adamk9652]

The 3MZ-FE is a great engine. Had one on my 04 Highlander Limited and it flew.

[@SimornM]

My mom had an 05 limited v6 until she got in an accident due to someone popping a tire and losing control and hit her....basically total loss. Bought it brand new with 12 miles on it too. Replaced it with a 15 Rx350 and it just doesnt feel the same. Miss our Highlander :'(

[@adamk9652]

@@SimornMI miss mine too. My 04 was my grandfather's that he gave to me several years ago (he also bought it new) . After a accident where it was almost totaled out back in late 2019, it never drove the same. Ended up putting at least 4k into it up until July 2020 when the transmission failed. We threw in the towel and donated it to charity. Ended up with my mother's 2012 HL Limited and she ended up getting a CPO 2018 Lexus Lx. I still miss my 04 due to the nostalgia of it being my first car and, the smaller form factor. Also the aftermarket radio I got as a birthday gift was so much better than the Stock JBL GPS unit in the 2012 that cannot be swapped.

[@SimornM]

@@adamk9652 i think ours ended at around 220k miles, I didn't really appreciate it until I found out that it's made in japan LOL something that can't be said about the rx (canada made)

[@troystocker6179]

I have a 3.3 l in my 04 Sienna, it's pretty quick for a box

[@SimornM]

@@troystocker6179 yeah the 3.3 is pretty quick, but my mom's 3.5 in the RX is waaaay quicker haha

[@stephaniemoore3779]

I'm buying a 2004 today and can't wait! Thanks for the tips and tricks!!!

[@paisa007]

Looked at a 2021 hybrid at $43k, decided that it was too much for a minivan. Purchased a 2007 with 59k miles for $12k. I am glad I purchased the older one. No car payment and the van is a dream to drive. Only thing wrong is the dash has cracks due to heat, common on the 04-10 models.

[@wattsobx]

where did you find a 07 with that low of miles for that cheap?

[@damilolaakanni]

IMO I would still go for the 2004. Simple exterior design, tried and true V6 engine, mechanical all wheel drive, simple and functional interior.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

The newer one is safer, less expensive (in real terms), and has much better mpg. With all that said I’d save the $$$ and get an old high highway mileage well maintained old one from the early 2000s. You can buy aftermarket infotainment systems. I can’t imagine driving without a spare or tach.

[@brucewayne2773]

I love my 05 sienna it's identical to yours limited awd. I use it to haul stuff so having removable center seats is a big plus for me. Love my dual glove box, hidden pocket doors, removable center console. It has been super reliable. Only issue as all Sienna owners knows is the cracked dash, which mine has been replaced. Heck if you are in California, I would buy yours from you. It still looks really nice. I passed on the 2012 to 2020 models( removable center seats but what is that big track bumps and lack of storage up front )because of these same reasons, and now 2021 they made it worse. I only wished Toyota made the new sienna just as practical in use of space . I don't know why the Sienna designer do not continue these practicalities , it's what I really want in a reliable mini van. Pretty sure people to buy the new Sienna understand these things and buy the van not for hauling cargo but more focused on people transport like you are doing with 4 car seats. Please Toyota, make the 2022 Sienna with 2 options, practical van for people like me to haul stuff with the removable center seats , removable center console, to start with and one for passenger hauling.

[@yellofury]

I got a 2004 XLE and it still runs pretty damn good. Paints faded, sunroof dont open but everything else works great. 186,000 miles there should also be a huge bin under the front passenger seat that pulls out too

[@naveenthemachine]

FYI Kirk the 2021 doesn’t come w a spare tire standard. However it is available on all trims (including AWD) for $75. Only negative is that It’ll reduce the cargo area

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

I always love to see these older vehicles. Love TFLclassics, MotorWeek Retro Review and this video!

[@eivis13]

Realistic review with a comparison to a previous model (not sure if the best, but definitely a solid one). A good thing for anyone buying a car.

[@jnbond]

Still loving my 2005 Sienna XLE Limited! Almost 190k miles and everything still working like a true champ! Few times I've considered getting the new but just keep feeling the newest needs a few more tweaks before I pull the trigger to buy.

[@madcowusa4277]

Recently parked my 2006 Sienna next to a brand new $50,000 Highlander. Vehicles appeared about the same physical size except the Highlander seemed kinda squashed down and with a ton of body scoops and angled lines. Didn't seem like much difference to me except mine has better visibility, a power sliding door and is stress free as I literally don't care about parking lot dents or getting in a minor fender bender - I'd probably laugh and shrug if the car got totaled.

[@bhavintoliabg4946]

Cars were really wholesome back then.

[@cgrscott]

Sometimes you don't notice how many 2nd Gen Siennas are on the road until you own one. That happened to me after I purchased a used low-miles XLE from a private seller.

[@nasanierulastname2997]

Plenty of gen 2’s running around, but I haven’t seen too many 3MZ-FE-powered (pre-2006) examples. 2005 LE AWD at 116k, bought new. Just has the aircon recharged and got new steel wheels and tires on it. I’m a college student and I think this van is incredible, on top of a certain amount of sentimental value having grown up riding that van. Wish the fuel efficiency was better though.

[@CWengrovius1420]

A great looking 2004 sienna. I’m glad to see it looks great after 17 yrs of driving it & it’s features as well. I love how you are comparing it to the 2021 Toyota Sienna in hybrid. That is so cool. I own a 2013 Toyota Sienna XLE, but I wish I had AWD as well. I love it lots & my nieces & nephews do as well. It works well with car seats & the LATCH system too. I love how you keep your kids in straps as long as possible. I did my nieces & nephews as well when they were all little til age 8 in 1/2 yrs old. Then into booster car seats for as long as possible as well. My younger niece & nephew are still in boosters today will be til there ready for the adult seatbelt. Which is still a few yrs away! Keep up the good safety with your kids. I live in Arvada,CO!

[@jlkhawaii8542]

Really interesting comments. Lots of people here in Hawaii are still driving 2004 Siennas. A taxi service bought their 2004s brand new and now have 500,000 miles on each of them and still running smooth.

[@TheoPhilpot]

wow a 2004 with adaptive cruise control! so innovative

[@davidkaminski615]

That driving position in the new van looks really claustrophobic and I like the thicker sidewall tires of the older van.

[@jpsalis]

I have a 2006 sienna XLE myself, such a great car. I've had some issues with the radio system, but it runs fine. That gas mileage though, good lord.

[@farukcarushi4983]

I’ve got the same exact vehicle. 250000 miles, still going strong. I love it. My overall mpg is 18.4 though, Kind of bad.

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

But it's a heavy safe van. Worth the extra gas

[@Psichlo1]

That's impressive mileage considering the model year. I have a 2014 Sienna and it just hit 180k miles. Other than the A/C compressor and normal maintenance like oil changes, brakes, a battery, it hasn't had any issues. I have been thinking about getting a new Sienna but I can't rationalize the price, and I can't say that I am a fan of the only hybrid option. My V6 Sienna has enough get up and go to get on the highway and I am just not that sure about the weight of the vehicle and the hybrid engine, plus maintenance costs.

[@injuredtabletennisplayer1474]

Seeing your old Toyota brings me back. I traded that one for the model in between your old model and the present sienna. I rented and was able to drive a 2023 Sienna on a recent trip in Alaska. Loved the gas mileage. Not the acceleration or the non flat smaller cargo space with no 2nd row seat removal. With the strength of your review and lack of availability of Toyotas in general (to say nothing of the outrageous markups) I’ll be keeping my old sienna a while. Maybe a different dealership. I purchased 10 Toyotas or Scions from them in the past but no loyalty to past customers.

[@tdgdbs1]

Still driving my 99 Sienna; can't kill the thing.

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

i really like 1st gen

[@funwithfurryfriends9258]

Me too, '99 Sienna with 217,000 miles and runs perfect!

[@susanpoisson3082]

I *just* traded in my 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited AWD - it was IDENTICAL to yours. My dash cracked a *lot* more than yours did, unfortunately. The slider door cables being on the exterior of the vehicle was a huge design flaw in that year - mine broke, so I had manual sliders for the rest of the time I had it. Mine was an excellent van for the 5 years I had it - from 135,000 miles to 175,500 when I traded it in. It had finally reached the point of not being practical to keep repairing the things that were wearing out and breaking on a regular basis due to age.

[@mmytacist]

My 2006 Sienna just passed 200K miles. Smooth and quiet as ever. The body work has taken some bangs, and the paint is fading and peeling off the glaze. But I'm not selling! My spare is under the vehicle, not in the back.

[@kapkap2342]

2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited, 168,759 miles

[@Mark-jd1jx]

I have a 2010 sienna 250k miles, amazing car not getting rid of it anytime soon.

[@OriginalGabriel]

2008 Sienna with 200k and still going strong; and an after market head unit with Android Auto. They really dropped the ball with the non-removeable seats on the new version

[@bobstorr4986]

But they have airbags in them now so...it’s a heck of a trade off. They can still be removed if absolutely necessary though.

[@Mike-fj2ln]

There's a good video on removing the seats, and it's not bad. Removing the seat tracks, which still are 2" above the deck is much tougher, though.

[@diecastcarsmodels5496]

Woah the old sienna had a lot of cool features

[@JESHLESS]

Ikr

[@jimbob4456]

Still got my 2005 Sienna. Still runs like a champ. We looked at a new Sienna. The seats were uncomfortable for us. We are weird. Would of loved to have got another Sienna. Ended up with a Highlander. Oh well..

[@jxmar_]

It’s just as nice! If not nicer cuz the highlander usually has better materials than the sienna

[@peterjeffery8495]

Old Blue, my 2004 Sienna still wags its tail and likes to play catch. Yeah its getting into its late teens but I have absolutely no reason to stop driving it. This car had a few first-model-year quirks like wonky seatbelts and a sparetire that couldn't stay where it was put but overall its been a real gem. It gets used like a pickup truck and as a multi passenger wagon..its all good!

[@danielponder690]

just discovered this channel, love Toyota and Lexus cars. My cousin's 1999 Sienna is still holding on...sadly new ones are SOOO expensive.

[@jxmar_]

But filled with Sooo much tech and safety features!

[@captainamericaamerica8090]

@@jxmar_ Too many. To go wrong

[@Lichohedge]

My uncle just got a 2005 sienna le with 155k miles a month ago and man that thing is so comfy i love it. the interior is in excellent shape and looks pretty much like new. the only one minor problem it has is that the automatic door doesn't fully close all the way and leaves a very very small gap, so he just turns off the power door and opens/closes it manually instead. other than that the minivan runs excellent and is a very comfy ride. i also have some family members that have/had 3rd gen siennas and those are also great. haven't been in one of the new ones yet but maybe some day.

[@jimmylabb5868]

The 2004 Toyota Sienna xle limited awd was an amazing minivan!😄

[@mudpuppy318]

We have a 11 LE AWD and I'd have a hard time going from our 266HP V6 AWD to the new 2.5 hybrid FWD setup.. specially when there's next to nothing wrong with this one even after 225,000 kms

[@Mynameisgus94]

I went to test drive the new Sienna. but after watched you, I bought the 2005 Sienna clean limited fwd 💰. I can’t see myself writing checks every month for the next 6 years for it.

[@taylornorth3637]

I LOVE my Sienna. I have the 2016 and absolutely love it

[@giofromtexas2679]

I still love the woodgrain and leather combo on steering wheels and gear shifters! Feels so nice to the touch. Too bad Toyota has done away with that.

[@zachs.9600]

This is a great channel. Knew I’d see the day you had 100k. Been here since 5k

[@KirkKreifels]

Thanks Zach!

[@AHMEDMOOSAJI]

@@KirkKreifels been here since like 200 subs Really great to see how this channel has grown

[@zachs.9600]

@@KirkKreifels I remember watching some of your early streams and talking about Lexus. You were still LexuriousKirk then. I think that’s what it was

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Well equipped vehicles from the past usually hold up much better, if the stuff still works.

[@thekays385]

Kirk: “Hey everyone how’re doing” Me: “Go---“ Kirk: “ON MY LEFT I HAVE A 2021 ALL NEW, ALL HYBRID SIENNA”

[@bradpeek5799]

Big difference for hybrid vs. gasoline, especially regarding dependability. My money says that there is no way that new van lasts 17 years like the 2004. Almost certainly a new $5k-$10k battery pack will be required before then.

[@trevorweinstock4867]

Most hybrid battery packs (especially from Toyota) aren't nearly as expensive these days... $2k-$4k, which is paid for in a few years by the better MPG.

[@MusafirsSoul]

You made me fully in love with 2004 sienna. I am so much in temptation to buy it right away..

[@stillincarlsbad5633]

Hybrid (Atkinson) motors from ALL companies tend to have more blown head gaskets due to the hot/cold cycling of the engine. Very tough and having a blown head gasket at 120k-150k is not unheard of. 2005s are still on the road in spite of neglect. As long as there were regular 5k-mile oil changes, (and other fluid changes like transmission), they're very bullet-proof. I own a '18 Prius hybrid and regularly get a minimum of 60mpg per gallon over a whole tank. The last car I really wanted? An '05 Sienna. After finding one that had great maintenance records (minus no oil change records in the last 20k miles), it turns out it damaged the engine and the dealership would not agree to let me have it checked by my own mechanic.

[@peppersmith]

Awesome, The '21 is so much Sportier. But hey, still + & - on both. I wish they kept the 300hp v6 would have been sweet. Stay Safe, Be Safe!!!!

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

I’d rather have the old Sienna. I can’t drive without a tachometer. No spare and alloy wheels=stranded.

[@KirkKreifels]

You have to pay for a spare tire on the new Sienna just like you had to on my 2004 awd... Since I bought mine from the first owner, he bought the spare haha.

[@tduong4318]

You can have the spare for $75 on any trim, not like in Canada you can't even get one but only on the LE

[@AndrewSnape-fj7qg]

Why would you want a minivan in the first place

[@furious4tom827]

You know what's funny, my family actually has similar vans too, we have a 2005 XLE Limited & a 2021 XSE

[@kimroth7868]

One of the favorite things about my 2006 Sienna is the armrests !!! They can lock at multiple angles(rather than just a 90* angle)...and are comfortable. I've heard they were only available in 2nd generation sienna's from 2004? through 2010. Anyone have a newer sienna(post 2010) that has this type of armrest? Love my sienna but looking to replace it....with another 2nd generation Toyota sienna. I really don't like the center console area of the newer sienna...would make me claustrophobic...and the seats in the older Toyota's are much more comfy. To each his own, I guess

[@luisguevara7402]

I have a friend with 450000 miles in it and it still runs like new

[@isaacsmind5575]

I think a more apt comparison would be with the 2021 Limited or Platinum, considering your 2nd XLE Limited was $10k more adjusted for inflation.

[@x3i4n]

I have a 2004 Sienna LE. Fucking love it. Im about to leave for 6 months in the car to do a vanlife trip. Climbing and running in the USA. Hype!