Here's How Different a Porsche GT3 and GT4 Really Are - 991 vs 981

There has been a theory that for a long time Porsche was afraid to put the 911 engine in the Cayman. Well, in 2016 with the 981 Cayman GT4, they finally did it. But how does the Cayman GT car compare to the tried and true GT3? On this episode, we find out.
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[@tonyrobertson4633]

I have driven a number of GT3s on track, and I own a 981 GT4. I love both, the power of the GT3 (any of them) is intoxicating, but on the road I think the GT4 is more forgiving, therefore you can drive it faster and you feel more confident. I was on a Porsche club rally where the leader was driving a 911T, second was a GT3 4.0 and I was third. On the straights the 911s we’re leaving me, but in the twisties, I caught them and easily kept up with them. I’d love a GT3, and maybe will invest in a 992 Touring package GT3 at some point, but until then I’ll continue cornering, and thinking that I could uptake that same corner faster the next time in my BLUKROK.

[@patrickodonnell6651]

The GT3 vs GT4 is a tough challenge; even if you ignore the price differential. I drove the GT3 and its an amazing car, particularly with the rear wheel steering when stomping on the throttle into a turn. But I chose the GT4 with PDK because I love the balance of the car and it still feels like a small track car to me (I loved that feeling with my 1988 911 track car). To me there is no winner. They are both magnificent. Thanks for this review EatSleepDrive.

[@henry3397]

Yeah the GT3 is amazing and such a great engine and drive train, I just wish it wasn’t rear engined. As someone who grew up with front engined 50/50 balanced cars, I am a heavy trail brake. The GT3 doesn’t like that much, it’s better at the opposite like you mentioned, stomping on the gas on exit.

[@jonitalia6748]

If you’ve played the first Assetto Corsa, which small track car do you think most closely approximates a GT4?

[@Fee.1]

It’s that free revving nature and sound that makes that GT3 motor insane. Cant be overlooked its intoxicating. the cayman platform deserves a taste

[@charliejg]

I'm a huge GT4 fan. Not that I'd turn down a 911 of any kind, but that weight distribution of the mid engine is the sports car sweet spot. Always loved the 981 in Sapphire Blue with the club sport package.... of course, ot available in the U.S.

[@ASRmann]

Lost you when you mentioned the GT3 is more of a long distance 'GT' car. I think you've misunderstood the concept of GT for Porsche.

[@galeriafuentes]

Lol

[@wushuhsu]

Every review complains about the long 2nd gear in the Cayman. Porsche claims they couldn't fit a smaller 2nd gear in the Cayman. That's just a lie. I don't believe the mighty Porsche engineering department can retrofit an entire suspension but can't change a simple gear size. Same for fitting the 911 engine in the Cayman. Aftermarket modders can do it, so Porsche can too. Charge greater than GT3 prices if you must. Call it a 911 Cayman if you have to. Stop holding back the Cayman.

[@gbass7328]

Love the the GT4! You bought your self a great car. GT3 motor is ridiculous. SO.........GT4 with a GT3 motor is what I'd love to see happen. Any videos on that build would be Epic!

[@henry3397]

Totally agree. The GT3 is a fantastic engine and drive train. I just wish it wasn’t rear engined :/

[@paolovispo]

Man i guess your wishes just came true with the new GT4 Rs

[@Redducati1199]

I came from a 991 C4S with X51 kit in to my 981 GT4, ok straight line the 911 has more grunt and I do love the grip out of a corner.. But the GT4 is so much more fun, it may be down 45 bhp but on the twisties the GT4 would wipe the floor with the 4S. Would I swap for a GT3? Yes, Do I think the GT3 is worth double? No

[@VentureAHighway]

I’d gladly take either if I get to drive it on those back roads you filmed on..

[@johnwhodat8135]

There are videos of Cayman spinning out at the nurburgring...so much for the balance.😂

[@benbustama3430]

They are both great vehicles! I loved my ‘15 991.1 GT3. Kept it for 54 months (longest I ever kept a car) but wanted to give the last 991.2 TT a try too. Love the Turbo, too. Ultimate garage is a Turbo, a GT3/GT3 RS &/or GT4/GT4 RS. Will keep the Turbo & add a NA 992 GT3 RS. I enjoy your vids... Cheers/B

[@yermailmain206]

You forgot an ap1 s2000 in your dream garage👍🏽🤣😂

[@mdodds51]

I brought a 981 GT4 Club Sport 2 months ago and just love it, so much fun on the track, the sound and grip are awesome.

[@EatSleepDrive]

Can't wait to take mine to the track!

[@713vinh]

You honestly can't go wrong with either car. Both are well capable of tracking and tight back roads.

[@DwainDwight]

Both great. I have a manual GT3. which I guess is the best of both. But I have two friends with GT4s and they are fantastic cars. can't lose.

[@stoss-11]

Just bought an F82 m4 and a 981 GT4 is definitely up next after watching this video gosh I love those Caymans!!

[@SonoCars]

Great video. Can you compare the 997 turbo to these cars from an ownership perspective. I know they are completely different but I can't figure out which one of these to pursue next. As always, eat, sleep, and Drive ty!

[@elijahtate4324]

“Every inch counts” that what she said 😂😂

[@johnwhodat8135]

😂😂

[@Matador_matty]

I love the Gt3 seats 💺

[@ogredani]

It's actually the same seats in the GT4 if you go for the bucket seats option (seats originally come from the 918). I have the 981 GT4 with those seats and they're fantastic!

[@Deceptionz99]

How does the gt4 compare to your 997.1s? I’m gonna be in the market for my first Porsche in the fall next year. Wondering if I should maybe look at a 981 cayman as well.

[@security_threat]

Drove a 991.2 Carrera T and a 981 GT4. The Carrera T feels just as special and much more comfortable on the street. The ground clearance is loads better! The GT4 feels like a serious track weapon that was made just compliant enough to be streetable. I didn't like the Carrera T farts on downshift though (but that's personal). You can't go wrong either way. But I chose the GT4 because I have a daily. I wouldn't choose the Carrera T if it's not your daily or plan on long road trips. Also if your spouse does not want to drive a manual I would just get the Carrera. (I ended up buying a 981 GT4 btw, my daily is a B9 S4)

[@Deceptionz99]

A Random Nonce thanks for the reply!

[@frederickcook87]

I’d like to know how the gt4 compares to his 997.1 on the road. We all know the upgraded gt4 interior is better

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

The GT4 has slightly more modern feel interior and a bit more refined. Steering on both is incredible. The suspension on 997.1S PASM is slightly softer (id recommend at least going to Eibachs pro kit). The motor on the GT4 is the same motor as the 997.2S (slightly more than .1). Shifting is little shorter on GT4, but you can throw a 997 gt3 shifter on any 997 and it’s an easy upgrade or you can do like I did and buy the Numeric, which is incredible. Also upgraded my steering wheel to a GT3RS wheel, which I like better than the 997 sport wheel. In my opinion the .1S sounds better but the .2 is a better engine and less potential issues/problems with IMS, etc. the GT4 is slightly easier to drive fast, but to be honest, I like the rear engine feel of a 911 and it just takes practice to get it figured out. The GT4 has much much better tires (Cup vs PS2 and much more modern). I’ve never been a huge Cayman fan, but I really like the GT4. At the same time, I am a little mixed about calling it a True GT car. It has the 7.2 engine and the 997 is really similar is size. I still feel like the 997.1 and .2 are incredible values.

[@GlennsCarCollection]

Good video. What editing program do you use?

[@samwisee]

Or get a GT3 manual, if I want a smaller car I would probably get a 997.2 gt3 over the new GT4, the older GT3 engineer doesn’t rev as high but it’s a proper Mezgar motor with 8400rpm redline and better gearing for the manual trans. I love how the GT4 and especially the spyder looked but I have a feeling that the gearing will drive me insane

[@lucagiogog902]

I own a 981 GT4 and I was after driving a 991.2 GT3 manual I was a bit torn on whether I wanted to trade mine car in. But I could not justify the extra $100k . The only drive my gt4 of mountain roads on the weekends love the car but the long gearing was a bit frustrating for the street . So I sent it to Sharkwerks and they did a perfect tune for it .. shorter gearing, light flywheel, LSD, performance air filter, tune etc. I spent about $22k but it feels perfect now . Highly recommend it if you are in my situation

[@sean911sc5]

I'm suck on the smaller 911's and have driven tight B-roads from the start. I know the GT4 would fit the bill (fun factor) as every time a drive a 981 my only complaint is lack of power. If the opportunity presents itself I would purchase a GT4. Keep in mind the fleet would still have to maintain a 911.

[@pjs12464]

YES!

[@BrianLouderback]

OMG absolutely the GT3! That beautiful noise... Who cares about a manual.

[@johnwhodat8135]

I have .1 gt3 pdk. I had other brand sports cars before with manual ..I'm getting a little old for that now. I prefer pdk now.

[@0to60_]

I drove a gt4 and a base boxter I need a 911 on my list now

[@GC987]

It's hard to appreciate these cars on a road where clearly driving much more rapidly than 60 mph becomes not only illegal but irresponsible. It's a shame in such a big country not to find faster roads on which to film where let's be honest, you can shift (with meaning) in 3rd & 4th gear. Accelerating in a 45 mph zone in anything but 1st & 2nd gear is almost an irrelevance. These cars truly come alive closer to the limit of traction and when song (above 4,000 rpm). I'm afraid whilst they are wonderful when driven slow or even if static, driving them at 6/10ths is somewhat of a disservice. In that respect your GT4 is more than enough car (& a wonderful choice I might add - Kudos to you) - I just wonder when the GT3 get's it's legs fully stretched (hopefully on a track somewhere).

[@is4life862]

Both cars are 👌

[@tRAWtrtv]

please do a gt4 vs 991.2 gt3 manual, or just do a standalone video on the 991.2 gt3

[@taforth]

The GT3 is the real deal imo. The GT4 is a great starter GT car though.

[@Peel5000]

I have owned a 991 gt3rs, seen many people trade their RS’ in for the 718 gt4, and I ordered a 718 gt4 for $130k when that money could buy a 2018 gt3. GT4 = better car GT3 = better engine

[@taforth]

@@Peel5000 that depends on whether you enjoy the still (ie less than in the past obviously) unique feel of the 911 (ie rear engined).

[@cmweek19]

Since you have owned a GT350 how do does it compare to the GT4 and GT3?

[@Fee.1]

I’d be curious what your thoughts are on the rotation points of the z4m & cayman GT4....driving them back to back elicited very different responses than I expected in many ways

[@smithiy69]

That gloves actually a great idea. Covids turning me into a bit of a germaphobe this year, I use a disposable plastic glove each time I fill up

[@mh0072]

Grow a pair. You’ll be Arite

[@ckneasel]

GT3 is a grand tourer...? Ok... 🙄😂

[@brianhimmelman420]

Bizarre comment I agree

[@jstoli996c4s]

Ikr? GT4 fanboy level 5000

[@joshohebshalom4676]

Great video! Maybe for future video/videos include what maintenance you do on the GT4 prior to the winter and before putting more miles on it..? I think that would be helpful for those of us looking into getting one of these and maintaining it ourselves like you.

[@johnadams2933]

Check bgb in Ormond Beach. The owner is a pro racer and has perfected the gt4

[@OvertakeVideo]

I went from a 997.1 gt3 to the 981 gt4 and I will tell you the clutch is WAYYYYYY lighter on the GT4 - like not even close - compared to the 997 gt3. I think for a GT car the gt4 clutch is actually light.

[@touringteg]

Do you miss the 997.1 GT3?

[@OvertakeVideo]

@@touringteg I really don’t-the gt4 is better in almost every way (only place the 997.1 gt3 had the gt4 was the motor-gt3 motor was a little bit more powerful and revved out a little bit more)

[@touringteg]

@@OvertakeVideo Thanks I appreciate that. I have driven 997.1 gt3 and had a recent ride in the new GT4. The 997.1 is quite hardcore and I would only drive it for spirited drives and special occasions.

[@OvertakeVideo]

@@touringteg yeah exactly it is definitely stiffer and lower. The gt4 works much better than the 997.1 gt3 as a dual purpose track car and weekend car.

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

I never understand the complaints about the 997 GT3 variants regarding the clutches. I drive a normal 997.1S and hopped into my buddies 997.2 gt3 and he even warned me and it really isn’t an issue. In fact I totally forgot about it on my drive. Is this really a “thing” for some people or is it just a bunch of internet hype that is something for people to talk about? Yes, the GT4 is easier to drive than the 3 in almost every way, but it’s also what makes it a bit less “special”, imho

[@sixpotshot]

I am not sure how many actually know that Caymans and Boxtsters (gen 981 at least) have actually bigger wheelbases than 911s (gen 991 at least)? They are inherently more stable at speed because of that and their engine location as well. I can’t deny I fancy any GT3 engine but the outstanding feature of the GT4 is that is one of those cars where there is NO weak link. The car is one of those cars without any weaknesses. It is the WHOLE car. There is not a single component that outshines the other (and here I recall my Z4 M Coupe - a racing engine under the bonet. But its chassis would leave me wanting every single time. I sold it and have never regretted it) The Cayman GT4 is a total and absolute immersion of solidity and of togetherness like a 911 can only dream of. And not even the long gears of its gearbox can detract from that as they have on its own benefits that no one talks about.

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

A long wheelbase is what you are basing the 911 vs GT4 argument on? Interesting (don’t look now but the 991.1S with street tires absolutely smokes the GT4 running cup tires on pretty much ever circuit). I guess if wheelbase is your thing, porsche had to go with 4 wheel steering to make the 991 GT3 cars “feel” more nimble like the 997 cars. Some people like that, others not so much. But the newer gt3 cars are unique in that they can calibrate the steering to feel like it has a longer wheelbase at higher speeds and a shorter wheelbase at slower speeds (tighter corners). Frankly i couldn’t give AF and just give me the 997.2 GT3RS and let me drive it how it’s meant to be driven.

[@syu4795]

Are you planning to modify the GT4?

[@EatSleepDrive]

Stay tuned.

[@razorworks111]

@@EatSleepDrive Recommend an ECU tune. I got mine from Softronic, and the change is very notable.

[@pjs12464]

You have $150,000 cash. Do you pick the GT3 or get the 991.1 turbo or GT4 and keep the rest of the cash? What is your pick based on your preferences?

[@EatSleepDrive]

For me, it's gotta be manual. So I went GT4. 👍 If manual wasn't a deal breaker I'd rather have the GT3 for the same cost. I think the value is in the GT4, which is why I bought one.

[@Msweet151]

@@EatSleepDrive With $150k, you can just barely get into a 991.2 GT3 with the manual. Can't quite reach a GT3 Touring though.

[@E28Source]

991.2

[@zuten88]

GT4 for me. It looks better. Don't care if it has less performance, it's an eye candy!

[@Jwdude123]

The manual transmission = Respect

[@meanvr]

Gt3’s 11.3 to gt4’s 13.1 is not close by any stretch of imagination.

[@weho_brian]

i cant tell the difference since i dont have either, can you sense the bitterness

[@thisismiller6957]

You lucky bastard.

[@yermailmain206]

Those cars are awesome. Would love to have one of those leaking oil in my garage in a good way🤣😂👍🏽 nice video incase I win the lotto

[@regibson23]

Well right off the bat one's a 911 and the other is a Cayman...

[@BboyMobster]

To me that pdk I couldn’t pass up. I am in love with the pdk transmission.

[@brucemackenzie4952]

Are not going to be much different when the 718 GT4 RS hits the streets.

[@marksanders2587]

Loved that

[@MrGlexin]

GT3 ALL Day

[@touringteg]

Now we are talking. I am between 997.1 GT3 or 991.1 GT3 pdk

[@E28Source]

touringteg I was in the same boat, buy a 991.2 instead.

[@jealva]

997.2 GT3

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

997.2 GT3RS. Screw the PDK

[@jstoli996c4s]

GT3 is a touring car??? 🙄 🤦‍♂️

[@moneyparhar]

Plus gt4 have carrera engine and GT3 have real GT engine.

[@mohdfazhrienazrien9294]

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[@mrgrey9584]

Gt4 is 100k less .. I’ll take the gt4

[@jackweta]

both slower than a 720s

[@beckyparry7877]

The materialistic stick excitingly brush because tooth untypically drop against a fresh trumpet. bloody, nippy improvement

[@kylemiller2440]

The quaint llama unfortunately share because uncle centrally push on a insidious vegetable. depressed, tearful quart

[@thomasle6936]

Bias review sorry buddy. Gt3 is king for a a reason. Gt4 is a great car, but if you had a Gt3 and not the Gt4 it would be a different summary.

[@EatSleepDrive]

Nope, no manual, no care.

[@SocialismSucks]

The GT4 is for the wife.