Here’s how the Fiat X1/9 was Italy’s first cheap mid-engine sports car

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My Old Car

My Old Car

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In this episode I provide the history of the Fiat X1/9, a two-seater mid-engine coupe with a removable hardtop, which was originally designed by coachbuilder Bertone. Originally designed with the North American market in mind, it missed an important regulation soon after its release by requiring large unsightly bumpers to conform to the U.S. requirements for 5-mile-an-hour crash worthiness. Although sales were good for the first few years, by 1982, Fiat's overall sales had dropped enough to force them out of the North American market, however Bertone took over production and worked with Malcom Bricklin to continue imports. However sales kept declining enough that the X1/9 was discontinued by 1989. I also explain in this episode how it got the unusual name of X1/9.

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@skipast75
@skipast75 Жыл бұрын
That was a triumph TR7 in the fall guy… you can tell by the shape of the pop up headlights.
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist Жыл бұрын
First thoughts, exactly. TR7.
@kevindalton2285
@kevindalton2285 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Epic fail
@jamesreckling6697
@jamesreckling6697 Жыл бұрын
Looked like a TR7 to me.
@lanceharrington4475
@lanceharrington4475 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a TR7 or TR8 by the headlight shape.
@garydale3233
@garydale3233 Жыл бұрын
TR seven ….
@stevec821
@stevec821 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the car that crashes in the Fall Guy, to me it looks more like a Triumph TR7 than a Fiat X19 due to it being front engine, rear drive & the pop ups are a strange triangular shape rather than square 👍🏻
@wilw9607
@wilw9607 Жыл бұрын
Yup! TR-7.
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 Жыл бұрын
Indeed it seems to be!
@mankind8088
@mankind8088 Жыл бұрын
TR7 ALL DAY ALL DAY
@lash9400
@lash9400 Жыл бұрын
Can spot the mug of a Tr7 a mile off.
@allenwayne2033
@allenwayne2033 Жыл бұрын
Yep, spotted that immediately.
@bryana1942
@bryana1942 Жыл бұрын
I know a mechanic, who specializes in Italian cars, who has an X1/9 in his garage. I’ve even seen it run! Always liked them myself.
@ninocaruso6850
@ninocaruso6850 Жыл бұрын
That wasn't a Fiat X1/9 they crashed, it was a Triumph TR7
@electropunk42
@electropunk42 Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. I owned a TR-7... unfortunately.
@RJLightning68
@RJLightning68 Жыл бұрын
@@electropunk42 what was owning a TR7 like???
@tucker8594
@tucker8594 Жыл бұрын
A friend had one when I was in high school...loved cruising around in it, a totally fun car.
@khylerin70
@khylerin70 Жыл бұрын
The X1/9 was under rated. What it lacked in power it made up for in handling. It felt fast when it wasn't sometimes because it was like a rollerskate. 😂😂
@wmalden
@wmalden Жыл бұрын
As a high school senior in 1974, I lusted after this car. I ended up with a 1974 Civic instead.
@PRH123
@PRH123 Жыл бұрын
74 civic was an awesome car too...!
@nutandboltguy3720
@nutandboltguy3720 Жыл бұрын
74-78 was carburated 1.3 w/4spd, 79 was carburated 1.5 w/5spd, 80-89 was EFI w/5spd
@gregorycarroll6121
@gregorycarroll6121 2 ай бұрын
Mine is a 1980 and is carbureted. It was built in March 1980. The cutover to fuel injection was sometime after that.
@davidh7339
@davidh7339 Жыл бұрын
1:30 - That looks more like a Triumph TR7.
@marshallr4797
@marshallr4797 Жыл бұрын
I had an orange ‘75 model in high school-neat car.
@AFExploration
@AFExploration Жыл бұрын
1.46 you made a comment about the fall guy car flipping over being a X1/9 but im sure its a Triumph TR7, keep up the great content though 👍
@TheJetJONES
@TheJetJONES Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The X1/9 and the 128 had the same platform, but: The 128 was FWD, while the X1/9 was RWD
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 Жыл бұрын
So Toyota copied Fiat to make the MR2.
@pervertt
@pervertt Жыл бұрын
Visually, this car has aged very well. It still looks fresh and distinctive in a world of me-too shapes.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
Interesting! How about subsequent sporty FIATs like the FIAT Coupe (designed by Chris Bangle of BMW fame) and FIAT Barchetta?
@melxb
@melxb Жыл бұрын
i agree it looks sick
@jefferysmith3930
@jefferysmith3930 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh….Fall Guy. Definitely a Triumph. They did several of those tarted up cheaper car swaps as I recall. And the classic 70’s-80’s bail out of the car about to crash sequence
@manthony225
@manthony225 Жыл бұрын
They trashed a 65 or 66 Mustang as a replacement for the Mustang II on Charlie's Angels😮
@ncampopiano
@ncampopiano Жыл бұрын
Triumph TR7
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 Жыл бұрын
1:45 That's a Triumph TR-7.
@homernoy
@homernoy Жыл бұрын
Yup. I noticed that immediately.
@damieg82
@damieg82 Жыл бұрын
Agreed... easy mistake to make I suppose, but it's definitely a Triumph
@chewybunz
@chewybunz Жыл бұрын
Very informative! It's Lahn-cha, by the way.
@brassmonkey7566
@brassmonkey7566 Жыл бұрын
I remember being amazed by how tiny they were compared to every thing else on the road at the time. Late 70s early 80s gas was .99 cents per gallon and the cars were still Large!
@dotlaj
@dotlaj Жыл бұрын
Yes they are tiny but still have a place for luggage.
@Iamthestig42069
@Iamthestig42069 Жыл бұрын
Bertone, mid engine, small wheelbase. It’s a budget lancia Stratos.
@natesteiner5460
@natesteiner5460 Жыл бұрын
They smashed and flipped a TR7! X1/9 didn't have a muffler under the floor.
@padroooo
@padroooo Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pat, a great documentary of the Fiat X1/9. I was in Italy for two weeks in the mid 80's. Gas was going for over $4 a gallon the and I noticed Fiat was king in Italy.
@goofyleo3869
@goofyleo3869 Жыл бұрын
It was $8/gal in the 90's and I didn't see ONE X1/9 or Ferrari when I was there.😐
@leonardocilento786
@leonardocilento786 11 ай бұрын
Price of the gas in Europe is usually waaaaay higher than in the u.s. s That's why small economy cars are preferred overall
@DinsdalePiranha67
@DinsdalePiranha67 Жыл бұрын
I know a guy who at one time owned THREE X1/9's - two for the street, the third for racing with SCCA. He also had a Lancia Scorpion. Guess he had it bad for cheap mid-engined Italian cars...
@QuincyPittmon
@QuincyPittmon Жыл бұрын
Funny you posted this episode. I was thinking about this car the other day. And go figure, I was out driving and a very clean, red X1/9 pulled up next to me. I didn't get a chance to ask the driver the year, but I'm guessing '79 or so based on the bumpers. It was in excellent condition. I was surprised, I hadn't seen one in at least a decade or two. I always loved these when I was a kid. I'd see them around town from time to time. Same goes for the Porsche 914. Although the Porsche/VW has held it's value a bit better.
@NeilSnapePhotography
@NeilSnapePhotography Жыл бұрын
When I was in high school I had a brochure of a green X1/9. Later I happened upon a green one exactly like the brochure in excellent condition. I bought it, put on low profile mags, P7 Pirelli tires etc. Lots of repetitive repairs ! It was slow, but the weight balance was so good! On coastal roads from Vancouver to San Francisco it was a lot of fun living on the edge of danger. Truly painted don the road.
@staric4863
@staric4863 Жыл бұрын
The car in the stunt in this Lee Major's serie is a Triumph TR7.
@the_greenwood551
@the_greenwood551 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the car in The Fall Guy was a Triumph TR7, also interesting you didn't use that episode from the MythBusters were they crush a Fiat X1/9.
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that Malcolm Bricklin was more famous for bringing Subaru to North America. As for the X1/9, of course it would rust away. At the beginning of the video they're driving it across a salt flat! Finally, I would love to find a modern Fiat 124 Spyder with a blown engine... so I could put the Miata's powerplant into it instead. Gorgeous looks with a reliable powerplant. Best of both worlds.
@giantgeoff
@giantgeoff Жыл бұрын
Fiat tried that ,. It was called the Lancia Scorpion.
@ouijabored45
@ouijabored45 Жыл бұрын
i believe the car they wrecked at 1:32 was actually a triumph tr7, judging by how the pop-ups end slightly before the bumper
@johnstapler5956
@johnstapler5956 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved those cars. I think they're gorgeous. Thanks.
@dedeborya9015
@dedeborya9015 Жыл бұрын
that red flipped car looks more triumph than fiat ....
@Johnsmitty1971
@Johnsmitty1971 Жыл бұрын
I loved going to full service gas stations with mine. Quite few attendants walked around the whole car trying to find the fill cap. It was a fun car to drive.
@curbowman
@curbowman Жыл бұрын
This has been one of all-time favorite car of all times!! I used to see one here in Caracas, Venezuela, and it's amazing how small it really is. And yet, it was (and maybe still is) much more safe in a colission than most bigger cars.
@puebespuebes8589
@puebespuebes8589 Жыл бұрын
Weight is the number 1 enemy
@g1sokool669
@g1sokool669 Жыл бұрын
Bought a new one in 1974. I have never owned a car that was as much fun to drive. I have never owned another car that was as unreliable as the X 1/9.
@bikerroel5284
@bikerroel5284 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1977 X 1/9 for 12 years. It was a great car, handled wonderfully in the snows of Montana, the city streets of DC, and the wet weather of the Netherlands. Unfortunately, the car did seem to come "pre-rusted" and 4 years in northern Europe didn't help with that issue. The engine had over 100K miles on it when the rails failed and the body bent when I jacked it up to replace the brakes. Sad ending to a great driving car.
@djflashlinx5150
@djflashlinx5150 Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity in regards to extending its US lifespan, need more power!!! Wasn't aware price had more than doubled in a decade. I personally owned a 74,75,79,82 X, a Fiero GT and now a 93 Mr2, addicted to the midships.
@markbowden7238
@markbowden7238 Жыл бұрын
Very tuneable motors Lampredi dohc, sohc
@slikrhodez3336
@slikrhodez3336 Жыл бұрын
"Triumph TR7! The shape of things to crash!"
@BEasay
@BEasay 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 Жыл бұрын
I had a buddy in Waco, Texas with an X-1/9. It must have been a '74 model. He loved it. Frankly, I was never much of a fan of its looks, but I never told him that. 😇
@timstrobel9220
@timstrobel9220 Жыл бұрын
I loved when I was in high school and wanted one
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it have been cheaper for the producers of The Fall Guy to wreck a Fiero than to put a Triumph TR7 body over a FIAT X1/9?
@johnbee7729
@johnbee7729 Жыл бұрын
Ummmmm - the car in the clip looks more like a Triumph TR7
@generaldissaray4109
@generaldissaray4109 Жыл бұрын
to be fair, when i was a kid in the 80's i had a matchbox x19 and tr7 and i always thought they looked super similar.
@fritsvandenbroek2795
@fritsvandenbroek2795 10 ай бұрын
I also had this Fiat X 1/9 for years Unfortunately, I am already 87. greetings from Holland.
@Schumanized
@Schumanized Жыл бұрын
There are a couple here in 🇵🇷 still running. A black onr and a green one.
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, My Old Car, but you got the "Fall Guy" scene wrong. 1:19 You're right, that scene didn't smash-up a Fiero, but it wasn't an X-19 either. It was a Triumph TR-7. Back in the 70's there were three lower-priced wedge-shaped sports cars- Fiero, X-19, and TR-7.
@jsembler1
@jsembler1 Жыл бұрын
Very excellent Silver Streak clip at the end!
@doug6191
@doug6191 Жыл бұрын
Mazda's 929 deserves a spotlight
@johnmohanmusic
@johnmohanmusic Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the original Datsun 240Z!
@misssummersalt
@misssummersalt Жыл бұрын
I recently worked for a dealership in Australia which was selling the Abarth Prototipo. It's currently dressed in a bright orange paintwork which really shows off its massive scorpion tail-like air intake which stands tall right in the centre ABOVE the passenger cabin!
@jennifermontgomery4521
@jennifermontgomery4521 Жыл бұрын
First! And also I want this car! Ive been binge watching you for 2 days now.
@calvinthurston1441
@calvinthurston1441 Жыл бұрын
A buddy when I met him had 2. One was a mostly stock being restored and the other was a full fledged race car with a cage and fire extinguish system with custom fenders molded off some porsche. It was a thing of beauty but he had broken his legs in a motorcycle accident and couldn't drive it. His mom ended up selling it or scrapping it or somthing without telling him as it was in her backyard. Major bummer to lose both of them!
@tirebiter1680
@tirebiter1680 Жыл бұрын
FIAT was building the 128 , an affordable car with a the engine in the front and front wheel drive. The X1/9 was created by putting what was under the hood of a 128 behind the seats of an X1/9. Therefore it could be sold for a fraction of the price of other Italian mid-engined sports cars like Lamborghini's and Ferrari's. If you had a choice of a Toyota MR2 or an X1/9, you would buy the Mister 2.
@louislepage5111
@louislepage5111 Жыл бұрын
Neat looking cars , unfortunately total rust buckets here in Ontario Canada 😊
@woongah
@woongah Жыл бұрын
The Runabout also reminds me, a lot, the final Lancia Stratos
@davidleecock7754
@davidleecock7754 Жыл бұрын
Triumph TR7 got rolled, genius!
@vidiupload4174
@vidiupload4174 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The X1/9 was a nimble, great handling, good-looking car that was surprisingly safe, especially for its size. If you could adjust to the steering wheel distance and angle, the angular gauge cluster, and the four anemic hamsters running on the treadwheel in the engine compartment, you'd be very happy with it.
@markbowden7238
@markbowden7238 Жыл бұрын
I did exactly that, went through everything, modified whatever needed : seat, steering wheel, driving position, controls, diff, motor, lights, suspension, everything.
@hardankles3382
@hardankles3382 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! Awesome video!!!!! Being in the Fiat Club I have many friends with these cars!!!!!
@althunder4269
@althunder4269 Жыл бұрын
The car getting rolled and wrecked looked like a TR7.
@peregrinemccauley5010
@peregrinemccauley5010 Жыл бұрын
Owned four Fiat 850 ( 903 cc ) Sports Coupes . Superb handling and performance and probably one of the most beautiful cars ever made .
@TheJetJONES
@TheJetJONES Жыл бұрын
8:52 Another Fun Fact: The Fiat X1/9 and the Yugo are distant relatives 🤣
@Aptnumber9
@Aptnumber9 Жыл бұрын
In a few episodes of DALLAS in the early 80s, Charlene Tilton's character "LUCY EWING" drove the Fiat X 1/9.
@letsride2057
@letsride2057 Жыл бұрын
X19 is a mid engine design with a muffler at the very rear running transversely. At 1:39 you can see a single muffler at almost mid car.
@tinfoilhat1619
@tinfoilhat1619 Жыл бұрын
So interesting! It would be cool if you can do cars that were used/popular in movies from the 80s.
@CarlosGuzman-bq8fr
@CarlosGuzman-bq8fr Жыл бұрын
Great episode 😂❤ loved it. I loved The fiat 850. Almost bought one. Fiat 1/9 is 😎 🆒️
@Pillowbiter84
@Pillowbiter84 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video for Saturday night.
@kifhurlbut
@kifhurlbut Жыл бұрын
I saw what you did there, with the flames over the Fiero's engine compartment! 😂
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
I loved these as a kid !
@Bod8998
@Bod8998 Жыл бұрын
That's a TR7 Actually that got smashed
@reinatycoon3644
@reinatycoon3644 Жыл бұрын
Great video man. This car looks amazing imho such unique character to the car for sure. Too bad it was so underpowered. They should have put a 2 rotor engine in the car to keep the light weight but have more hp. Imagine if this thing had a 170hp or more naturally aspirated rotary engine with it's 2225 lbs weight. It would have been a affordable pocket rocket.
@chuckwhitson654
@chuckwhitson654 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a tr-7 in fall guy. I rode to school every day in one as a kid
@goofyleo3869
@goofyleo3869 Жыл бұрын
And I KNOW you never saw over the dash! Hell; even the driver had trouble seeing the nose of the car. That hood just sloped away out of sight. Thank Christ for the pop-up headlights to let you know where the front ended when you had to parallel park.
@frankbalazs8816
@frankbalazs8816 2 ай бұрын
I have a Beautiful 2002 Red Corvette targa top with 40k original miles!!! I STILL WANT A X 1/9 !!!❤
@PRH123
@PRH123 Жыл бұрын
Used to see quite a lot of these in the late 70's and early 80's in high school, they were very popular in the suburban dc area. I think it was the onset of the high quality japanese sports cars that they couldnt compete with, just like the british sports cars, that disappeared around the same time.
@aipo86t
@aipo86t Жыл бұрын
I wanted one so bad, but it didn't fit. I had to settle for a 128/3P.
@djverhulst
@djverhulst Жыл бұрын
What we did in europe was swap out the poor quality italian made parts for German quality stuff from Bosch ,, other alternator, starter, distributor ignition, better plugs and wiring, then you would have had most of the problems, and scrapped that emission crap before the first service check even though we had less strict regulations than in the U.S.
@tsbrownie
@tsbrownie Жыл бұрын
Had 2 friends in school that had these. Both rusted out behind the rear window within 3 years.
@hglimshire8356
@hglimshire8356 4 ай бұрын
I had a 75 X 1/9. Great when it wasn't in the shop. Actually wish I still had it
@Iskelderon
@Iskelderon Жыл бұрын
That thing always looks like the Japanese improved it into the first generation MR2.
@Bentsi2002
@Bentsi2002 Жыл бұрын
I own a fiat 850 spider, tiny reliable car, so slow but fun.
@grunkohlaktionar7474
@grunkohlaktionar7474 Жыл бұрын
Please do an Episode on the Mitsubishi Diamante
@BlackBeard-1680
@BlackBeard-1680 11 ай бұрын
A cool car to do an episode on would be the Opel Manta, which was an import sold through GM Buick
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 Жыл бұрын
The car that was in the fall guy crash scene that blew up was a Triumph TR7.
@thedeadstig123
@thedeadstig123 Жыл бұрын
That car exploding was a triumph TR7......
@dcanmore
@dcanmore Жыл бұрын
they trashed a Triumph TR7 in the Fall Guy clip.
@gud6y
@gud6y Жыл бұрын
Failed Attempt at Italian Transportation! Loved these though!
@rjscott6116
@rjscott6116 Жыл бұрын
That was a tr7 buddy. A Triumph.
@derekcolvin9944
@derekcolvin9944 Жыл бұрын
I came so close to buying this car in 1981 after I graduated high school but it was $2,000 more than the Mazda GLC I ended up purchasing
@Afrocanuk
@Afrocanuk Жыл бұрын
If I had the choice, I'd choose an X-19 over a Fiero.
@Checkmate1954
@Checkmate1954 Жыл бұрын
I had a Brand New1973 Fiat 850 Sport Spider. Quick and fun.
@dalesmth1
@dalesmth1 Жыл бұрын
I had three of these. A 73, 78, and and 86 that I bought new off the car lot in 91. Toward the end, they had a hard time getting rid of them.
@jamesstuart3346
@jamesstuart3346 Жыл бұрын
Up here in the Canadian Rust Belt these cars lasted about one winter
@danielboguse4249
@danielboguse4249 6 ай бұрын
That's a TR7 and the radiator was up front. The side scoops directed air into the engine compartment.
@timcarlos
@timcarlos 5 ай бұрын
Since the radiator was located in the front of the vehicle, the cited scoops in the sides of the car didn't direct air at the radiator.
@TEDdotcom
@TEDdotcom Жыл бұрын
Loved the episode. Always liked the X1/9. Learned a lot about its history. Didn’t know about the Bertone takeover. Thanks!
@geminihi-fi7939
@geminihi-fi7939 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this because I just left a garage that had 3 in it all running fine.
@OYisit
@OYisit Жыл бұрын
On the Fall Guy chase scene they rolled and flashed a Triumph TR, just look for RWD underside shot.
@supercarspotingbyronboudre4733
@supercarspotingbyronboudre4733 Жыл бұрын
Great Vid! I had a 74 silver X1/9 Loved it!
@Jim-re3sr
@Jim-re3sr Жыл бұрын
You know why i haven't seen an X19 on the highways in 40 years? It was a Fiat
@krill6969
@krill6969 Жыл бұрын
Why is this unlisted.
@MyOldCar
@MyOldCar Жыл бұрын
This is not scheduled for public release until later this month. I provided an unlisted link to my brother (Dennis O'Meara) since he provided me some info to include in the video, so I wanted him to see it in case I got any info wrong. I will soon be switching it back to scheduled status (which will block it from view before the release date).
@MarcVetovious
@MarcVetovious Жыл бұрын
You sure that wasn’t a TR 7 FHC in the fall guy?
@wagonpassion4137
@wagonpassion4137 Жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same
@tolik5929
@tolik5929 4 ай бұрын
I had two of those growing up . Absolue junk , but a ton of fun to drive . Could turn on a dime . You might be able to get it to 95mph , if you red lined it , and were goiing downhill . On the plus side , if you rolled it , it was VERY sturdy , having a built in roll cage ...................yes I am talking from experience .
@marktuyet
@marktuyet Жыл бұрын
Had a 76' 128 . Started rusting about a week after I bought it.
@anthony_rivera4735
@anthony_rivera4735 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the Ford Explorer sport trac pickup
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