Here’s Rock-Solid Evidence That 1 John 1:9 Is for Sin-Deniers, Not Christians! | Andrew Farley

[@robinl6659]

Jesus + Nothing = Everything! Thank You for rightly dividing the Truth!👍👍👍👍

[@benkoops6815]

Finally! I've been in agreement with Andrew's explanation of 1 Jn 1:9. Pastors have treated me with disregard at times when I said 1 john 1 is a message to the lost in his hearing before he gets into loving one another. Once n for all. What shall we say then shall we continue in sin that Grace might increase, may it never be. No, we walk in the new nature, in God's glorious power instilled in us by his Holy spirit. Thank you so much Andrew praise God. 1981 good preacher named Jim McCotter explained this to 5000 college students and they got it right. My dear old dad who was raised christian reformed, had the habit of after every evening dinner he'd pray and Lord forgive us of our sins. I said Dad, come on once and for all he's forgiven us. Can you please pray thank you for forgiving us of our sins. We're more motivated to love God because of his grace and love than the fear of judgement then

[@djaconetta]

Sin is never an issue in salvation because Christ took care of the sin problem on the cross once and for all. But it is a issue for the Christian for fellowship and filling of the spirit reasons.

[@antheafearon1632]

The KJV I have gives the explanation that John’s readings have “already experienced conversion” meaning they are already saved, therefore, if that is what the KJV gives as an explanation, how can Andrew Farley be correct? I also have in my possession the Amplified bible which gives the same explanation as the King James Version!

[@mystery407]

I truly love Brother Farley's teaching. He understands that we are forgiven of ALL our trespasses ( past, present and future)(Colossians 2;13) and that Christ nailed it to the cross(Colossians 2;14). However, where we differ is that he does not rightly divide the scriptures (II Timothy 2;15). Although all scriptures are for us, they are not all TO US and were written for our learning ( Romans 15;4). This is why when Brother Farley interprets IJohn 1;9 " if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness ". It sounds contradictory to Grace. Because under Grace there are no works (Ephesians 2;8-9). Confession is considered works. You are saved by putting your faith in Christ finished work ( Read Romans chapter3;21-30). You don't lift a finger for salvation- just believe. But, if you rightly divide the scriptures, you'll learn which books are written for Jewish believers and other for Gentiles. This cuts down on a lot of confusion and you can truly distinguish between grace and law. Paul was sent to the uncircumcision ( Gentiles and everyone else) and Peter and the twelve to the circumcision (Jews). This is why they gave him( Paul) the right hand of fellowship ( Galatians 2;7-9). So, to be clear, I John is really a Hebrew epistle and we are not Hebrews. If you compare scripture with scripture, you will be able to see the difference in language used and teachings between Paul's gospel, Dispensation of the grace of God ( Ephesians 3;1-2) and the Kingdom gospel what Christ taught in his Earthly ministry along with Peter and the twelve apostles (Mathew 4;23).

[@YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726]

The Work of GOD is to Believe in CHRIST JN.6:28-29 a servitude with an inner desire and purpose HOLY SPIRIT led promptings

[@carolbattle8010]

Thanks for the message.

[@eddienegrino8348]

We are forgiven by faith in Christ eternally. We receive forgiveness when we believe. But if a person does something bad to you and doesn't want to say he is sorry, even if you want to give him forgiveness and reconcile, but he doesn't want it or doesn't care about you he can't receive it. We must maintain ourselves away from these typ3 of disrespectful people, no matter who he is, son or father. Luck 17 says if he COMES and REPENTS forgive him. We see in Corinthians the guy sleeping with his step mother, he said kick him out of the church.

[@soteriology1012]

I was taught that 1 John had nothing to do with an unbeliever getting saved but rather a new believer who believes s/he no longer has any capacity to sin or fall short of the glory of God. This is the difference between a state and a standing. A believer who believes s/he him/her self can no longer sin or fall short of the glory of God is either in a STATE of self deception ie. ,lying to ones self, which is a sin or is in a state of being able to justify ones self instead of relying on the fact that Jesus Christ has justified you when you believed. Yes it does deal with a form of sin denial AFTER you have believed instead of BEFORE you have believed. John tells us that we may hate our brother BELIEVER for we are not brothers or sisters of the unbelieving until they get saved. This is for the once believing eternally saved sin denier instead of the never believing sin denier. This is how we handle our sins after we are saved instead of before we are saved. It has nothing to do with either getting saved or staying saved and it has everything to do with staying filled with the Spirit and operating in the filling of the Spirit and waking in the Spirit after we have been saved. We of another persuasion of the interpretation of this verse call it REBOUND. In Basketball it is like how you may recover the ball after you have missed your shot. You are in denial that a Christian in the game of life ever misses a shot in the "Olympic games" of life. 1 Cor 9:24-28

[@YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726]

Amen HALLELUYAH… whatsoever is not of Faith is sin ROM.14:23 Salvation in CHRIST included … it’s not progressive!!! It is settled Finished 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 PS.119:89 JN.19:30 … therefore We Live Out from Our Position of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH ROM.4:13 GAL.5:5 ROM.11:6

[@arliegage1380]

Thank you so much🎉

[@n8branim]

"Bring out Mo'" 😅 Good teaching, thanks!

[@jsmathe1]

In Christ, we are no longer a slave to sin, we became slaves of righteousness as a new creation. We reckon ourselves dead indeed to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. If we don’t, we will continue to sin, fall and fail and live in a self defeating destructive cycle instead of receiving the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness to reign in life through the one Jesus Christ. We will expect to sin and won’t overcome or learn to be led by the Spirit which is not God’s design. As a new creation you’ve been recreated by the Spirit with a new divine nature that wants to please God and it’s not a nature that wants to do sin and get away with. It’s good to acknowledge our mistakes, receive the gift of forgiveness that is already ours in Christ and get back up and not get condemned / guilty but get anchored in the truth of Christ to live in innocence with a free conscience washed by the blood as a slave of Christ and expect to live right. You are united with Christ in union with Him as part of His precious body. Jesus already succeeded every place of our failures and struggles, so we live in utter confidence in Him, submitted to our new head Christ not under Adam. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Who the Son sets free is free indeed! You are free from all bondages and destruction that came through Adam by the law of sin and death! This is why Gospel is irresistible, life changing and so powerful!

[@stevencook4002]

“Mistakes” or sins?

[@LexHeroux]

Pastor Andrew, the Lord has really gifted you with teaching and teaching clearly to clear things up. This is edifying to me and to be honest, I don’t say that really often about people teaching scripture. I have fear that wells up with a lot of teachings. Thank you for reminding us of our identity in Him. I remember someone encouraging me once that I “love really well,” and while not perfectly, God has given me His love and so I can be assured that His life is in me! He ain’t ever going away!!!

[@orangeandslinky]

Calvinism simply asks why do some believe Andrew or why do most not believe what Andrew is saying. The theory is salvation is of the Lord. Someone asked John MacArthur, "how do we know if we are really saved?" John said, "well, if you can lose your salvation, you know for sure your not saved." Why? Cause salvation is eternal.

[@larrybedouin2921]

For such☝️ are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. {2 Corinthians 11:13-15}

[@jruthbarclay]

Amen!

[@ir.rajamalembangun6084]

Sins are only counted by the law.

[@savinggracechurch4112]

It's funny (not) that the new testament is worse than the old because under the old testament sins were taken care of once a year at the day of atonement. The church has taught a first Adam that is more powerful than last Adam! But by the One man's disobedience all were made sinners. But by the One sacrifice for sins many have been made righteous. Yes indeed Second Adam is more powerful than first Adam and in Him we have been made perfect forever!!!

[@YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726]

💫✨💥🙌🏽 HEB.5:9 HEB.12:2 it is of Faith… to Believe: A persuasion of Trusting and Believing in CHRIST by ABBA FATHER GOD 🌴💦🙌🏽💥✨💫 CHRIST is The Author of Our Eternal Salvation 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@inpursuitoftruth4905]

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. Which other parts of the LORD's prayer do you recommend we eradicate? Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. Psa 32:3-5 When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long. (4) For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah. (5) I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. Which other parts of the wisdom literature do you suggest we eradicate? Matthew 18:21-35 - "the parable of the unforgiving servant" will have to go as well, I suppose? Rightly diving the Word of God with a butchers cleaver!

[@stevencook4002]

Rightly dividing the word of truth means understanding that not every single passage of scripture is to us, since there are different teachings in different dispensations. Are Paul’s epistles for people back in the time of Christ’s earthly ministry? Is so, they really missed out on salvation. For the same reason, not all teachings during Christ’s earthly ministry are for us today.

[@MichaelBelievesinchrist]

I believe what you are saying. My question is, how are the ones saying lord lord regarding miracles, performing them in the first place? Don’t you have to have the Holy Spirit in order to do so? And if you have the spirit you are his. If any man have not the spirit of Christ he is none of his. So how does this make any sense?

[@michaelmelter2271]

There’s actually an example of people performing lying miracles in the Old Testament who weren’t believers like Pharaoh’s magicians. Also, it talks about how in the last days there will be lying wonders but they do not come from God. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10: “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

[@larrybedouin2921]

Good grief!

[@djaconetta]

If 1 John 1:9 isn't for the believer to get back into fellowship with God ,by confessing his or her sin ..then what does the Christian do with this nature to commit sin that is much greater than they realize. ? there is no other way.

[@savinggracechurch4112]

God is not judging us based on us or our obedience or disobedience. But instead through the new covenant (through the cross) Jesus was judged in our place. Under the old covenant the covenant was between man and God and man's ability. But under the new covenant it has been ratified between God the Son and God the Father. We are not even in the equation! And another thing Matthew chapter 6 and the Lords prayer dosent apply to us because those who heard it were Israel under the law. But this side of the cross "we forgive because we are already forgiven " Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 3:13 both say this!

[@johanpeters5528]

Amen 🙏

[@savinggracechurch4112]

You can't be out of the light as he is in the light. The covenant is between Jesus and the Father, not between you and the Father. That's why you can't lose fellowship!

[@djaconetta]

@@savinggracechurch4112 Excellent...You are right on the money. You have done your homework

[@jsbc1988]

If You are in Christ you are in Fellowship . Fellowship is Our union with Christ

[@soteriology1012]

If 1 John 1:9 is for unbelievers then what is the Gospel of John or John 3:16? 1 John says we can hate our BROTHER BELIEVER. 1 John is for those inside the household. Yes then what about the parable of the prodigal son and the elder BROTHER? They were both in the household. You mean if I am born again I cannot hate my brother believer? The gospel is the way to be born again and get into a RIGHT ETERNAL STANDING then 1 John is the way a believer gets back into a right STATE not a right STANDING. I john 1:8 is the NAZARENE & the CHURCH OF GOD or perhaps the TOTAL SANCTIFIED WESLEYAN who claims his SIN NATURE is burned away in an act of TOTAL SANCTIFICATION and believes he can no longer operate in the flesh or no longer has any power whatever to sin or do another evil deed. This is pretty much what DALLAS THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY taught their pastors from Lewis Sperry Chafer's systematic theology. Do you really mean that no believer can ever operate in the power of the flesh in which Paul states, "I know that in my flesh dwelleth no good thing."? Rom 7:18 If no believer can hate his brother believer then why are there so many Christian denominations? 1 Cor 1:12 What then were the Corinthians doing and why did Paul call them all without exception SANCTIFIED but CARNAL or FLESHLY? 1 Cor 1:2 If the gospel of John is the way an unbeliever becomes a believer and is born again receiving a new standing then how does a fleshly believer stop operating in the flesh and become spirit filled? 1: John has been described as the gospel of the believer. 1 John 1:10 describes a believer who has fallen into another error which may or may not be different than that of 1 John 1:8. If we allege we have not sinned we make out God to be a liar and His word is not operating in us. 1 John 1:10 may pertain to the one who alleges he no longer has the power to sin and fall short of the glory of God just like the one in 1 John 1:8 but this one can pertain to the Calvinist also. The Calvinist does not deny the believer's power to sin or do evil but rather he denies the power to sin and do evil outside of the sovereign eternally ordained will of God. Yes I have the power to sin but now the power to sin is the will of God for all who sin believer or non believer alike. Therefore when a believer sins it is not outside the will of God. Like John Calvin if I burn Michael Servetus, the Spanish physician, at the stake just outside of Geneva for his doctrinal heresies, I am not sinning because God ordained and decreed I do so and who cannot justify what God ordains and decrees which happens? It is an obvious error to believe everything without exception that carnal believers or unbelieving men do to men has been sovereignty ordained by God and therefore justifiable. If everything a believer does to another person has been sovereignty ordained by God then I can justify anything I do as the will of God. 1 John 1:8 is for believers in a state of self deception and 1 John 1:10 applies to believers in a state of self justification and the Arminian is in a state of self absorption.

[@suhfru2016]

You did not listen to the whole message. Or you listened with a preconceived mind. Be blessed

[@nevereux]

Where is the Bible saying that we’re forgiven past, present and future sins? Because i only found Rom 3:25 “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God”, which shows why we need 1John 1:9. Jesus’s blood cleansed us from past sins when we believed and cleanses us from present sins when we forsake them and repent, presently (say, if you stumbled yesterday). We’re being made perfect through sanctification, which comes with trials and errors (sins). Nevertheless, when the Holy Spirit comes, He convicts the world of sin (John 16:7-8). The extent of sin is never known until the HS searches out our hearts with a lamp, for we do a thousand things that we do not know that they’re sin. The sacrifice of Jesus is God creating/providing the entrance in His Kingdom, this is what was finished. On the other disturbing hand, Heb 6:4-6. Shalom.

[@kimwestwood8840]

Revelation of salvation will make you free from religious doctrine . The atonement for sin in the OT was made for one year, past, present AND future. How much more does Jesus cleanse us from? The book of Hebrews was written to believers who began making animal sacrifices. IF the passage you gave is about losing salvation, why does it say in Hebrews 10 : " 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected FOREVER those who are being [d]sanctified." We are the righteousness of Christ by the blood. NOT confession of sin. There are many sins we have forgotten, just as you stated. Are we to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal every one of them to confess ? How will we know we got them all confessed? I do hope you realize the absurdity of your conclusions which are not biblical.

[@nevereux]

@@kimwestwood8840indeed, “perfected forever THOSE WHO ARE BEING SANCTIFIED”, not all of us. Which is the same with Rev 19:7 where the Bride “has made HERSELF ready”. It’s not that we’re to obsess over what we do not know, but we’re to ask God to show us what we need to repent of that we do not think is sin. Because “without holiness (= sanctification), no one will ever see the Lord”, Heb 12:14.

[@nevereux]

@@kimwestwood8840also i’m not saying this might be your case, but just to be sure i am adding this. People generally call salvation what Romans 3 calls justification. We are justified when we believe (God’s righteousness is imputed onto us, we’re seen as saints and no more as sinners), it’s only the 1st step, for salvation comes in 3 steps (it’s all in Romans), namely: justification, sanctification (continually conformed into the likeness of Christ) and glorification (when we shall see Him as He is). So we are all justified, some are being sanctified, thus not all of us will be glorified. Run the race so that you might win, 1Cor 9:24. Even Paul longed mightily for the COMPLETION of his salvation, Phil 3:11. The race is to be glorified, but we’re not glorified unless sanctified (Heb 12:14), and how are we sanctifying ourselves (Rev 19:7)? Shalom.

[@kimwestwood8840]

@@nevereux Not sure what you mean by " not all of us" All who are born again are justified and sanctification is simply God's process of bringing trials , baptisms of fire on us to help us grow and mature. Being saved, salvation, is a one time event where we are given a new heart and sealed by the Holy Spirit. Our 2nd redemption spoken of is the joining of our bodies , new glorified physical to the spiritual. So I do not agree there are " 3" phases of salvation. Sanctification is not salvation Revelation uses language you cannot use literally always.

[@nevereux]

@@kimwestwood8840 Ok, not 3 steps, but 3 tenses (past: justification; present: sanctification; future: glorification)? Everyone is justified, but after this 1st step we have baptized believers clearly not undergoing sanctification, quenching the HS, Mat 25:1-12. These “imperfectly purified” are actually the lukewarm of Rev 3:16 and Mat 7:22-23, those who confessed Christ with their lips and live like the devil in the world, the Christians in-name-only, who have no splinters from carrying the cross. Ultimately, it’s the same principle as in Jer 18:10 “If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.”. God’s covenant swings open on the hinges of IF: “IF my people, if you obey, if you do, …THEN I will, i will, i will…”. But seriously, how can you ignore Rom 3:25 clearly mentioning that we’re forgiven of the sins “previously committed”, or “past”. Nowhere in the Bible is saying you’re forgiven future sins, but it’s saying to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”, Phil 2:12.

[@MacBook1ng]

Farley complicates things with his Hyper Grace nonsense. I know some guys sucked into his top-down theology which is very black and white. But God's mind and ways out of our reach. But Farley talks from a position of knowing God's ways. Living our daily lives is very gray. Confessing our wrong-doing is not "a bar of soap." Farley's formula is that "people struggle with sin" but the nature of sin means nothing on a daily basis. But the wages of sin is death. I have a friend who loves this idea. He has a child out of wedlock, she's three years old. His relationship with the mother is "more off than on." But they attend church together. He says he prays often how they should proceed as a family. He just wants an answer, "their relationship isn't right." Interestingly, Farley's Grace theology doesn't help my friend with his predicament. I don't know any sin-counting Christian bean counters with an innate hate and a score card. Who is this guy talking about? Not the average guy whose mistakes are real struggles. Farley is in the theological stratosphere while the rest of us have our feet on the ground.

[@genekirby9822]

He is only speaking truth!

[@chilidog73]

His theology comes from a study of the word through the eyes of a linguist. He is only rightly dividing the word and properly applying the scriptures to either non-believers or believers. Yes, the wages of sin is death. But not for a Christian. Jesus paid the price for our sin. And there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. I recommend digging deeper into Andrew's teachings. If you can get the simplicity of the Gospel, it will change everything. God bless.

[@MacBook1ng]

@@chilidog73 simplicity? Ever drive in busy traffic and two cars are driving crazy causing problems? Rubs everyone wrong, the peace and order of traffic flow is disrupted. And then the second driver catches up to the first. Farley’s brand of theology is simple… maybe for some people, but what about the self righteous overly entitled, or those with their heads in the clouds or stuck in the sand. Regardless, our “behavior” and “sin” absolutely rubs off on others under the umbrella of Grace. Are we magically shielded by repercussions? Our response, your sins are forgiven, brother! All gone? Wiped clean forever. But is the offender free from acknowledging the reality of their actions which means an explanation or confession, to prove or disprove, a denial or an apology… to anyone… or no one? Luke 17:1-4… Matt 6:14… come to mind. But the driver in the lead car, is your pastor, and the second driver pulls a gun and shoots him dead. Farley’s grace and the human experience aren’t mutually exclusive. Sin obviously can have tragic consequences within the realm of the human experience for the forgiven and unforgiven alike. Farley ignores how others are affected by our sin? And asking, receiving and giving forgiveness has a tremendous power to heal. James 5:16. Just as we “ask” Jesus, “receive” His Spirit, and experience or “given” God’s grace, in this life and beyond.

[@DosBlade]

Farley's not there to defend himself and I am not here to defend him. Oh pffft.. 1st John.. its easy search where John was talking to "Gnostics" see they believed they have no sin. Now go back and read it. Context. Its like reading where Paul was talking about willfully sinning? Yeah see Jewish believers in Christ when they sinned would go back and offer a sacrifice for that sin. Paul or really the sweet sweet holy Spirit told them there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Christ can not die again. To do that puts Christ to open shame. Look how many tell Christ ever day.. what you did on the cross was not good enough to cover all sin. For some reason YOU can sin as in that Christ never died for.. wow. Not going to keep going.. I have allot but you don't back up anything you say with the word of God. I am not here to talk about Farley.. I do not follow him. They will know you are mine by your love one for another. I give you this.. there is another preacher that is also know for hyper grace.. he has a HUGE Church. Saw him last year on TV.. sad because again he had to something he always said. We cannot freely sin.. sin repent.. He does not focus on sin.. nor does GOD. Christ already died for the sin of the world yet some believe they can sin as in Christ never died for. Paul told those Jewish believers when they sinned they would go and offer a sacrifice for that sin. He said there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Christ cannot die again. By doing what they were doing put Christ to open shame. Look how many seem to believe they are more righteous if they never sin. Anyone that never sinned again still could not enter heaven. I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but by me. You are in right standing righteousness not because you don't sin but simply because you believe in Jesus Christ THIS IS WRITTEN.. And you came to do what? Some day He will say to some (not us) if you have done it to the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me. If someone attack you they are attacking Christ. IF this man is in error. Don't talk about him.. pray for him.. you love him like you love Christ.. you love him just as much as you love mom dad kids or a spouse. Ooh if they miss it goof up sin.. shh we don't say a word we pray for them.. then turn around LOVE YOU JESUS

[@MacBook1ng]

@@DosBlade Farley’s head is in the clouds. Or maybe buried in the sand. It’s hard to tell. Wake up, people. Half truths is only half the message. Christ is full of Grace and Truth. But the devil is crafty. God desires unity among his people. The devil also has plans to unite the world. The wheels are in motion. Are we prepared?

[@orangeandslinky]

This is a big deal

[@timmysaxon-qe5of]

What a contradiction... you free gracers say that to be saved you don't have to repent of your sins, but here you're saying that 1 John 1:9 is for the unbelievers and it says if we confess our sins, I thought you didn't have to do that in the doctrine of easy believeism.