Here's What I Love and Hate About My F30 335i BMW

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EatSleepDrive

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@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 6 жыл бұрын
From a daily drivability standpoint these cars are wonderful. Practical/good looking four door sedan with a great engine/transmission combo. Tuning on the N55 platform has advanced so much in the last year or so and for 98% of enthusiasts this motor will satisfy. Great video!
@idrive335
@idrive335 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Omar
@chefjefe68
@chefjefe68 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 328i, ZSL, ZPP, 6MT, that I got new-to-me that had 34K miles and in 2 1/2 years now has 73K miles on it. I have been very pleased with it overall. My car doesn't have the lighting package, or the parking package. The stock halogen lights are absolutely terrible, arguably even dangerously terrible. I have added Sylvania H7 Ultrastar bulbs, which has improved it a bit, and I installed a Bimmer Tech rear camera kit to address backing up. I share your issues about steering and auto-stop-start. To be charitable, the steering feel is subtle, and in a turn I have no idea what the front tires are doing. My start-up ritual is: push start, push disable auto stop start, put it in sport mode. I would enjoy having it coded out someday. The N20 has good power and torque, good fuel economy, but lacks the wonderful sounds of BMW inline sixes. The injector clatter makes it sound like a diesel at idle. The 8AT ZF is a great automatic, to be sure, and, from having service loaners, I have experienced what you do when putting the car in Sport. Later F30s allow you to customize though i-Drive the settings for each system. Still , selecting a manual saves you all that. I drive in sport mode 99% of the time, the setting where it feels more like a proper BMW, and I don't have to fiddle with settings. In sum, as you conclude, the F30 is great daily driver that will give you some fun, good fuel economy, and a comfortable, dare I say, luxurious ride when you need it.
@b286guy
@b286guy 6 жыл бұрын
My 2014 F32 435i keeps the auto start/stop in the mode you had it in even after the ignition is switched off. Glad they made that change, although I think they did a pretty good job with the system itself. It starts back up quickly and doesn’t shudder like other cars out there.
@Tortelli-NL
@Tortelli-NL 6 жыл бұрын
Think the Euro cars will return back to "start/stop on" because of our stupid emision systems.
@user-so2rh9om6y
@user-so2rh9om6y 6 жыл бұрын
Bmw is really noticeable to me
@rafaeldomenikos5978
@rafaeldomenikos5978 6 жыл бұрын
Being an owner of a 335i myself I agree with a lot of your points. But firmer suspension really? The car is already hard enough some times for the daily drive.
@XMG3
@XMG3 6 жыл бұрын
you must not have xdrive correct ? There's no way 28mpg can be on a 335i with xdrive.
@carlhillman7724
@carlhillman7724 6 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2014 335 sport line and im also blown away by the transmission, and ive driven manual for the past 8 years.
@inspectorchicken
@inspectorchicken 6 жыл бұрын
A BMW 3 series touring with a big engine is a top choice for everyone who can only afford one car and wants to have a practical, sports/-ish car that looks good and runs as well as it runs long.
@LarRy-km1xl
@LarRy-km1xl 5 жыл бұрын
ESD, thanks for the great video! I've owned my very first and only BMW...a '13, 335i, M-Sport with DHP since late 2012 now with 89K miles. I would say the auto start stop was not an issue anymore after I had it coded to no auto stop start but I can I manually activate it if I wanted to (like when I'm running out of gas). To me the steering feel, weight and feedback is excellent in the Sport or Sport Plus mode with activated Chassis and Drivetrain setting with the auto ZF8 shifter in Sport (just a flick to the left) and with traditional tires (forget the run flats). It would have been awesome (perfect) if it could be permanently placed in that setting. My wife drives it too so she appreciates the comfort setting...we both happy :)
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 5 жыл бұрын
They're great cars. If i still had mine I would have done the coding as well to disable start stop. It's nice that's an option, I just never got around to it.
@bradgalbraith3677
@bradgalbraith3677 6 жыл бұрын
Great for content!!! Theres a ton of stuff to do!! I'm stoked for you the n55 is a great platform. Start with M sport front and rear bumpers then suspension!!!
@ThuanTran-nv9yb
@ThuanTran-nv9yb 2 жыл бұрын
I would think the stop and auto start feature actually puts more wear and tear on the car. There should be an option to turn it off completely.
@Mav0585
@Mav0585 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned my CPO 2013 335i for 4 years, I’ve only had minor issues, must just be luck of the draw. But I also maintain the car meticulously.
@willw3736
@willw3736 6 жыл бұрын
Suppose to get a rebuilt 2016 328i for 13,200 next weekend in excellent condition...wish me luck with it...it's my first BMW
@rukuscage9264
@rukuscage9264 6 жыл бұрын
Dont buy that lol
@hey1tsme
@hey1tsme 6 жыл бұрын
Why not ?
@HealthProductReviews1
@HealthProductReviews1 6 жыл бұрын
Dude Toyota is the way to go. I would rather get a 2016 scion tc. It will perform well and be a reliable car and I think it looks better too.
@vasme973
@vasme973 6 жыл бұрын
Health & Wellness toyota its for old ppl. In europe not much toyotas as its the hype in US. But i hear that bmw,mercedes, audis etc are not the same quality as in europe.i better buy french car then a toyota ore hondas
@ljones9599
@ljones9599 6 жыл бұрын
Health & Wellness if you think Toyota are somehow more reliable than a BMW within the last ten years, think again. Go take a look at some of the consumer reports rankings of BMW's vs Toyota during that time frame. Honda on the other hand, was fined in Jan 2016 by the federal government the largest allowable fine they could impose on an automaker, twice, for a total of $70 million. One fine ($35 million) was for under-reporting the number of mechanical problems that new Honda owners were reporting to dealerships, for the previous 11 years, but Honda management in Tokyo purposefully withheld the problems from our Fed. Govt. The second $35M fine was for Honda underreporting the number of deaths in their cars for the same previous 11 years. Don't buy into the Honda reliability hype because it's simply not true! This year they were ranked way down at like #18 in consumer reports auto brands reliability, whereas BMW was #2 or #3
@dskokos77
@dskokos77 5 жыл бұрын
I've owned f30 in sport line and msport. I despise the donut balloon steering wheel in the sport line, but like the red trimming.
@01wizmiles01
@01wizmiles01 5 жыл бұрын
i also own a f30 2012 320D and love it. its a manual 6 speed and have the option to drive it eco, normal or sport mode.
@Netalker87
@Netalker87 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I have the N26 F30. you can get the heavy steering by turning off DSC by holding the Traction Control button. Use at your own risk lol
@fadi_koka
@fadi_koka 6 жыл бұрын
I hate auto stop but I think you can code that to shut it off
@spiff56747
@spiff56747 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your complaint about the drive modes (RPM, fuel economy) would be fixed by a manual transmission. And the dealer coded mine to remember the setting for auto start/stop after turning off/on the car. It used to bug me a lot when I got the car, totally used to it now, maybe you can give it some time.
@Sh00fly86
@Sh00fly86 6 жыл бұрын
I would take the n55 over the 54 hands down without thinking twice.
@starcloud4959
@starcloud4959 6 жыл бұрын
- yeah its looking good for the n55 now.
@miguelhernandez728
@miguelhernandez728 5 жыл бұрын
Why tho ? I love my n54 lol
@franklampard6316
@franklampard6316 6 жыл бұрын
I had a 2001 3 Series for 13 years, and have recently driven a 2017 3 series, and I think people are making too much fuss about the power swearing in the newer models. In fact, I doubt most people could tell the difference.
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ 5 жыл бұрын
Frank lampard the E46 are the best 3er ever. I own a E46 316ti with more than 260 000km of abuse clocked.
@zrandy
@zrandy 6 жыл бұрын
Why does it have a European plate?
@aidenp5768
@aidenp5768 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the steering, the steering wheel needs a lot of setting because remember it’s not just you there are drivers that hate stiff mode and people who hate too soft modes and BMW solves it that way. Thank god BMW sells the 3 series for that reason things are adjustable but I agree on the rest.
@wisdomntshalintshali3296
@wisdomntshalintshali3296 6 жыл бұрын
Confession time. I came across your channel through your BMW M240I because it is one of those cars I would love to really have . I love BMW so thank you for this. Keep updating ! What ever did you do with that 500 dollar five series you took for the crazy tournament?
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! As for the 7 series, it's rotting in a field right now lol. We'll see if it makes a come back.
@sjwang40
@sjwang40 6 жыл бұрын
Why is this a confession?
@left_foot_brake
@left_foot_brake 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the 2 biggest problems can easily be coded out. Party on
@aljurajtung5481
@aljurajtung5481 6 жыл бұрын
About having to switch to Sport to get better steering weight, but at the same time putting you on a lower gear, does it let you change up manually at least? I personally have a dual clutch and never use Normal mode because it shifts too smoothly it's said to wear out the gearbox quicker. In Sport mode, it does stay at a certain gear when it could use the next one up, but it allows me to shift by myself to put it at the right cog.
@Tortelli-NL
@Tortelli-NL 6 жыл бұрын
You can manual shift the car, but it will go back to auto in 30 seconds or so. When you push the "gear leaver" to the left it will keep the gears (will shift down to prevent stalls or overrevs).
@Gearsandco
@Gearsandco 6 жыл бұрын
The suspension is not m sport and the sport line is just a little bit stiffer than the normal one
@Gearsandco
@Gearsandco 6 жыл бұрын
The auto start stop needs coding to remember the last setting
@whtshark691
@whtshark691 6 жыл бұрын
My understanding was that the suspension is the same in all the 3 series model, except that the m sport adds the dampers.
@michaelh4027
@michaelh4027 6 жыл бұрын
No. The M Sport suspension drops it 3mm. There is a passive suspension standard on other cars, and xdrive models. You can add 'MSport Adaptive' to any of the models to give it an adaptive suspension. Only way to get a firm suspension on an Xdrive model.
@kenbrand8972
@kenbrand8972 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video,thanks
@christianandolini8176
@christianandolini8176 5 жыл бұрын
Bro all that u mentioned can be coded with Carly Or go to Professional who ask for 10-15$ per coding thats it!
@anthonyvasquez8421
@anthonyvasquez8421 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 3 series gt m sport and the auto start stops is always off for me
@justthisguy1948
@justthisguy1948 6 жыл бұрын
Traded my 07 335i for an 15 335xi worst thing I ever done this is still a decent car but last gen was sooo much better
@daileypractice
@daileypractice 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos. You convinced me to buy my 2012 335i Convertible last year. Your interior/dash looks a lot different, and I’m only getting 19-20mpg. If I have a 2012, does that mean I have the N55 engine and it’s an F30? Last question, what phone apps do you recommend for update car systems? Thanks!
@ogshemul4190
@ogshemul4190 Жыл бұрын
E92 Generation Most likely a N55 engine
@Jim1971a
@Jim1971a 3 жыл бұрын
I like your shirt.
@DogtorC
@DogtorC 6 жыл бұрын
How is the steering compared to the m235i? I'm curious because it's also an electric steering...
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 жыл бұрын
The M235i's is significantly better.
@gregoryoakley4441
@gregoryoakley4441 6 жыл бұрын
Get a E90 or E92 335i, steering is hydraulic providing excellent feedback compared with new BMW's. Or just get a 135i.
@eloneatmyshorts
@eloneatmyshorts 6 жыл бұрын
EatSleepDrive I'm shocked you got this BMW. It's a larger much less drivers car than your short owned M235i; yes same N55 engine and ZF 8 speed but that's it! I loved my M235i but sold it for a different driving experience in a new Fiesta ST; the ST's steering feedback is so much better IMO.
@dantemontalvo8709
@dantemontalvo8709 3 жыл бұрын
Replacing a clutch and a battery is not a rollercoaster of maintenance.
@viliuspetraitis166
@viliuspetraitis166 6 жыл бұрын
In 2016 model theres no turn off when standing "feature" turning on again problems 🤷🏽‍♀️
@ssssahek
@ssssahek 6 жыл бұрын
Sucks about auto start stop but it can be disabled and it seems like there is a TSB where the dealership will do that for you: www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639035 However if they will not for some reason, coding you car yourself isn't actually that unattainable if you are good with computers. I've coded my car many times and some friends.
@sumiruddin3044
@sumiruddin3044 5 жыл бұрын
code the start and stop to remember thats what i done
@themza912
@themza912 6 жыл бұрын
turbo straight six right? what kind of power and torque will you get with a tune?
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 жыл бұрын
Next weeks video will have all the details with full dyno numbers before and after the tune. 👍
@WorldTravelerCA
@WorldTravelerCA 6 жыл бұрын
You’ve set an all about no connection to the wheels and that is one thing that BMW when away from and Cadillac still staying on the right track
@WorldTravelerCA
@WorldTravelerCA 6 жыл бұрын
ATS or ATS-V both handling is alive
@inikkor61
@inikkor61 6 жыл бұрын
How come if the ZF slush box is so good it's not used in M cars? Hmm...
@LP6704Murcielago
@LP6704Murcielago 6 жыл бұрын
inikkor They literally put it into the new F90 M5. They chose to stop using the DCT from the previous generation, and implemented the ZF torque converter automatic instead. “Hmm...”
@QQuaeE
@QQuaeE 6 жыл бұрын
it´s also on the new Rolls-Royce cars
@jan-philippholzmann188
@jan-philippholzmann188 6 жыл бұрын
why dit it got a german license plate
@RAJohnson713
@RAJohnson713 6 жыл бұрын
No paddles???
@lordmas2099
@lordmas2099 6 жыл бұрын
Why dont you just code the car so that start / stop is always off by default? use bimmercode to do it and other things
@brandonsalazar2547
@brandonsalazar2547 3 жыл бұрын
The car has a lot of body roll
@mikecandelora3628
@mikecandelora3628 6 жыл бұрын
This is why I only buy CPO BMWs
@cheezandwine139
@cheezandwine139 2 жыл бұрын
sport actually puts you Down in gear. not "up"
@koen2062
@koen2062 2 жыл бұрын
It still amazes me how much americans get stuck up around manuals😂
@DenisKudlik
@DenisKudlik 6 жыл бұрын
German cars built for the US market are lower quality than those built for the domestic market. Not all of them, but lots.
@James-iw4fz
@James-iw4fz 6 жыл бұрын
9:30 sounds like a automatic problem
@faheemasif5060
@faheemasif5060 5 жыл бұрын
standard bmw leather feels shit. former bmw 520d owner. my lexus is 300h leather feels miles better.
@cheezandwine139
@cheezandwine139 2 жыл бұрын
E46 M3. sad case.
@katzhunter4473
@katzhunter4473 6 жыл бұрын
Ah it’s not a manual it sucks! Boo! 😁
@Alex10daysago
@Alex10daysago 6 жыл бұрын
e92 was better.
@ericm8368
@ericm8368 6 жыл бұрын
I've driven a 2016 335d and 2018 230i as loaners from bmw and their steering even in sport + was absolutely terrible. Feels like a Japanese sedan. Bmw has lost their way and the e80 and e90 series was the last bmw with their famous steering feel. An electric steering and automatic bmw is no different to me than a Lexus or infinity. I would rather buy one of those and have actual reliability, not bleed money on repairs, have a better interior, and have almost the same performance. I have an e90 manual m sport and am willing to make the repair sacrifices to keep that car going as long as possible because bmws short of an m2 or m3 no longer have the characteristic steering feel. They are nothing more than a good engine riding on their own legacy. The handling and feel is gone. And if you want a fast automatic german cruiser might as well get a Mercedes since they've been doing that better for longer. Unless its an M, Bmw is no longer for enthusiasts. It is for status chasing posers.
@izmirdikili8069
@izmirdikili8069 6 жыл бұрын
That car is so ugly.
@DannysGarage
@DannysGarage 6 жыл бұрын
German cars make more sense when you think about the mindsets of the people that built them. German car engineers expect their owners to be obsessed with maintenance- when you do every recommended maintenance item exactly on time, you have a lot less problems. And the engineers expect you to fix problems as soon as you start seeing the smallest symptoms, versus letting them get bad. Germans love fixing and maintaining their cars, it's a cultural thing. Now when you give a German car to Americans, they neglect them and aren't as rigorous with the maintenance, and that's where the problems arise. I treat every part on my BMW's as a regular maintenance item because I know that nothing lasts forever, and that attitude has worked out well for me, given that I've been daily driving old BMW's with over 200,000 miles without ever getting stranded.
@Sh00fly86
@Sh00fly86 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's what's really going on.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 6 жыл бұрын
Danny's Garage what a crock of shit you said
@starcloud4959
@starcloud4959 6 жыл бұрын
I would agree.but do u have to be a bmw mechanic or can anyone learn how to maintain those engines?
@MrSupermanbe
@MrSupermanbe 6 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what is going on. Oil change after 5000 miles rather than the standard, any change in engine noise investigate and fix as the engines rarely change sound unless there is a problem. I suspect his one needs a water pump after watching the first video. He spoke about the engine noise and filling up the coolant. You wont know until its actually investigated. Danny has a good point. I have owned a few BMW's myself including the F30. Anyways he should change the steering wheel to the sport and the cluster to the 6WB. Its adds to the cosmetics and you forget the steering feel issue.
@Baasicstuff
@Baasicstuff 6 жыл бұрын
My fiat was The most reliable car ever for 60,000 miles and then I was hit by a bus. I would never recommend a total stranger gauge my experience with my Fiat as a historical reference of reliability. I was lucky as most fiats Volkswagens BMWs are a nightmare to own past 5 years
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 4 жыл бұрын
Those negatives are very minor. I'm picking one of these up, they are great deals now
@Travis73917
@Travis73917 4 жыл бұрын
How many miles?
@idrive335
@idrive335 4 жыл бұрын
How much how many miles I just got 2013 m sport for 16k at 89k miles
@Travis73917
@Travis73917 4 жыл бұрын
@@idrive335 I seen a 2014 fir that many miles ... did u get extended warranty ?
@OhItsReallyNoah
@OhItsReallyNoah 6 жыл бұрын
You take what I like about vehicle virgin, and get rid of the stuff I don’t. You keep it professional, and don’t go all clickbait. I appreciate it.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks man!
@mattxander12
@mattxander12 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the "it gets tuned" eventual video.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 жыл бұрын
It's in the works!
@Sam-gj3xg
@Sam-gj3xg 6 жыл бұрын
you have to do bench unlock I think, if not then go right to MHD and FBO. Easy 400 HP
@Sam-gj3xg
@Sam-gj3xg 6 жыл бұрын
Mike don’t get Cobb unless you get a pro tune MHD is much better
@georgedomse
@georgedomse 6 жыл бұрын
The Start/Stop is an easy fix, you can program it though the ODB port (I used the Carista adapter and app for mine), so the key fob will save your setting.
@sovannt8392
@sovannt8392 6 жыл бұрын
My Mazda 6 has auto stop too, they call it Istop. Annoying af. I just wedge a piece of paper between the button and hold it down , now Everytime car starts it automatically turns Istop off 😂
@NicholasMSmiff
@NicholasMSmiff 6 жыл бұрын
You can have Auto Start/Stop coded out to remember it is off when the car is turned off and back on. But, yeah, it should come that way from the factory
@zutubeguy
@zutubeguy 6 жыл бұрын
The dealer did this for me free of charge in a 535
@tommink2577
@tommink2577 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, my 2014 335i was obviously reflashed by the original owner. It would be incredibly annoying otherwise.
@starcloud4959
@starcloud4959 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah 'cuase that auto stop/start thing can wear out the motor.good to know u can get rid of it.thanks.
@MrSupermanbe
@MrSupermanbe 6 жыл бұрын
really? Have had mine with stop start not deactivated for over 5 years. I drive it daily and never had the motor wear out. not sure if anyone has complained of a worn out motor because of stop start.
@alpinaB12coupe
@alpinaB12coupe 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSupermanbe additional load on alternator, battery and most important starter
@bimmer4755
@bimmer4755 6 жыл бұрын
The newer f30's about 14 or 13 and above auto start stop option selected is remembered
@GaryDownes
@GaryDownes 6 жыл бұрын
Correct, my 2013 remembers if I've turned auto start on/off
@TannerJohnFilms
@TannerJohnFilms 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly my 2013 does not :(
@ljones9599
@ljones9599 6 жыл бұрын
My old 2013 335i Coupe turned off the auto start/stop as well and it persisted. Also, not sure if you're aware of this but back in 2007 when the 335i Coupe and sedan came out, there were several car magazines that toad tested the car and also like you noticed that the car had significantly more HP and torque than the BMW claimed 300/300, A couple of magazines went and had the car dynoed and the HP/Torque "at the wheel" was like 336/325. BMW has always been conservative and understates its power figures. BMW also reports their 0-60 times slower than any other source and its usually at least 2/10 sec slower than ANY other source including the mainstream auto press. Speaking of 0-60, the manual transmission is almost half a second slower than the 8 speed auto. I used to be a diehard 6sp guy, but technology marched on, and so did I.
@mhks68
@mhks68 6 жыл бұрын
Lane Jones You marched your lazy ass to an auto. Driving is driving and the “ Ultimate Driving Machine” means left foot and right hand. Automatics are for fatties who wanna text and gobble burritos on their way to work. I can drop the clutch and push the front end into a corner or gas it and break the 265’s loose in the rear. Cause my 335 is a manual.
@ljones9599
@ljones9599 6 жыл бұрын
mhks68 Actually, I used to be that way, and would only consider manual cars. 4 of the last five Porsches were manuals, as well as my first two BMW's. I learned how to drive in the mountains of Colorado where we lived growing up. Berthoud pass was where I first learned heal toe and I only was interested in manuals. Then I got smart and noticed that manual cars, at least BMW's, are slower than their automatic equipped versions. By a not so insignificant amount either.. That was a wake call. Also, not that I'm paying attention to gas mileage, autos get better mileage. I'm interested in performance, and for that reason, I kissed manuals goodbye.
@Big_M_T
@Big_M_T 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the “twin turbo” conundrum. Glad somebody knows the difference
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 6 жыл бұрын
When I was buying my X1, the salesman tried to tell me that it had a twin turbo lol I tried to correct him but he didn’t wanna believe me smh
@user-so2rh9om6y
@user-so2rh9om6y 6 жыл бұрын
mujjuman it's a twin power smh stupid salesman's
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 6 жыл бұрын
Malc B yeah man it’s a twin scroll single turbo which BMW called “twin power”. I tried explaining this to the salesman but he didn’t believe me and thought I was stupid
@timotatoe
@timotatoe 6 жыл бұрын
The best way to get sport steering without sacrificing fuel economy is putting the gear in "manual" and using the paddles/lever. I do it all the time.
@antoniocampos6627
@antoniocampos6627 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 335i and the best way to have sport steering while maintaining fuel economy is by throwing it into manual and shift it up to the 8th gear.
@danadams797
@danadams797 6 жыл бұрын
Two things about the auto start/stop: 1. If you want to keep it active, you can temporarily override the function by moving the shift lever over to manual. Then you'll stay in S1/M1 gear if, say, you're waiting for a gap in traffic to turn left. 2. If you want to defeat it permanently and you don't have the skills to code, you can get a Carly OBD port connector which will do it for you. I drive the ZF 8 speed in manual most of the time, so I'm rarely surprised by an unexpected engine off. We have some pretty long stoplights around where I live, so I keep the function enabled and leave the car in Drive when the oil's hot and I'm driving from red light to red light.
@mikezerker6925
@mikezerker6925 6 жыл бұрын
Your being pretty nit-picky about the things you hate about the car. For example, you love the fuel economy - well, the auto start-stop feature of the engine contributed to that 28 mpg rating. Why is adaptive headlights a mind blowing thing in 2018?? My 2007 Lexus GS had them!
@zahurrr
@zahurrr 6 жыл бұрын
"Loves great fuel economy on this car" - complains about one of the factors contributing to this fact; the auto start/stop setting (which is required by law in most countries/states).
@tonypetrecca1412
@tonypetrecca1412 6 жыл бұрын
2015 328 xdrive here. Great one car daily driver and dad taxi with enough fun on tap when I want it. Glad my auto start stop remembers. Agree with your thoughts about sport mode and the transmission. My workaround if I want the eager throttle and heavier steering but I'm cruising? Once I'm up to speed, slide it over to manual mode and up shift to a comfortable cruising gear on my own. Only problem is when I forget I'm in manual mode, exit the freeway, and can't figure out why I"m at 7000 rpm gently accelerating in traffic LOL.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 жыл бұрын
Great summary here. Such a great all around car, glad you're enjoying!
@Float1ngG0at
@Float1ngG0at 6 жыл бұрын
after 2013 BMW made all auto start stops more effective by keeping it off when turned off. in 2013 it will default back to on after every time you turn the car on. you can delete it with reprogramming the car like I did.
@000GunterGabriel000
@000GunterGabriel000 6 жыл бұрын
I drive a 2016 F31 340i M and do completely agree with you. The steering sucks big time. No feel at all! I had never a car where i felt so disconnected with everything as this one. I also agree on the limited options of customization. One thing i don't agree is the ZF. I don't like it. In Comfort mode it's to slow and the engine is not really responsive and in Sport mode it's not really fast either but hammers the gears that the whole car unsettles for a moment. Not my liking at all. What is indeed very good (for a Turbo) is the engine (in my case the B58) it really has lots of torque low down and delivers all the way until the red line. The engine surprised me actually, i didn't expect it to be so good.
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 6 жыл бұрын
000GunterGabriel000 I agree the B58 is such an amazing engine
@user-so2rh9om6y
@user-so2rh9om6y 6 жыл бұрын
Then get the M3 ?
@000GunterGabriel000
@000GunterGabriel000 6 жыл бұрын
I need a wagon and the M3 isn't available as wagon. Only alternative is RS4.
@user-so2rh9om6y
@user-so2rh9om6y 6 жыл бұрын
000GunterGabriel000 ..what year?
@000GunterGabriel000
@000GunterGabriel000 6 жыл бұрын
Malc B 2018
@kbbarton1
@kbbarton1 6 жыл бұрын
I HATE the auto start-stop feature. How much gas is it really saving? I can't imagine all the start-stop-start cycles are good for the engine.
@jordan605632
@jordan605632 6 жыл бұрын
Spartan Buff i believe it’s electric, but dnt take my word for it Scotty Kilmer has a video on it
@mdcohen
@mdcohen 6 жыл бұрын
E82, E90 would give you most of what you like about the F30 minus the 8-speed of course.
@g4m778
@g4m778 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Cohen and the fresh design
@inikkor61
@inikkor61 6 жыл бұрын
For less
@richiechou1605
@richiechou1605 6 жыл бұрын
The E90's ride quality is horrific and there are tons of mechanical issues. Not to mention the car design has aged poorly and its probably one of the uglier 3 series ever made. Oh and they're slow as hell versus the F30 across the range.
@Baasicstuff
@Baasicstuff 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a lot of cars, old Toyotas being the most reliable, next reliable my ford st. Had an old Nissan skyline, that thing never broke, also my old crx Honda was bullet proof!!!! German cars are not reliable and when they break, those dealers laugh at you or at least the mechanic does. I don’t know I think the prestige of BMW and all these German cars has been lost. I see high school students driving BMWs now I think a well-made car is a reliable, car parts that break easy.....it’s because they were not designed well or designed to last. German or not that’s not impressive to me. For 70k plus yea it will be nice it should be nice but is it really that nice? Wish Toyota made better sports cars
@_baller
@_baller 5 жыл бұрын
Cuz you didn't get the sport model
@DiPo7213
@DiPo7213 5 жыл бұрын
You can code the start/stop to be off with bimmercode
@winstoon
@winstoon 6 жыл бұрын
Review starts at about 2:00
@Kingsley83
@Kingsley83 6 жыл бұрын
The auto start/stop can be coded to remember the last setting, so it will stay off. You can do it via the Carly or BimmerCode apps.
@buckybarnes3803
@buckybarnes3803 6 жыл бұрын
They are still trying to figure out that oil gasket -- seems to be the eternal problem. Also it's noteworthy to point out that the 2012 is the first iteration of the new design and may have some bugs to work out
@Cops-R-Bad
@Cops-R-Bad 3 жыл бұрын
A BMW is like being married to a gorgeous woman that likes to have sex just as much as you do. You pay for her good looks up front, and you pay for maintenance of those good looks. Driving an F30 is ALMOST like having sex every time. Now, on the other end of the spectrum. Owning a Toyota Corolla is like being married to a Russian babushka. Cheap and reliable. Always available for the job, never complains, needs almost no maintenance. Trust me......I’m married to both
@juhthreef
@juhthreef 6 жыл бұрын
They fixed the auto stop start not persisting in the 2014+. You can get it coded to persist. I hated that stupid asshole feature, and if you think its annoying/biggest problem on yours trying it on mine! I had a manual and if I would go to start and roll without hitting the gas it would stop the fucking car.
@Mobilematt69
@Mobilematt69 4 жыл бұрын
auto start stop doesn't reset on my 2012 bmw 335i f30. Did they software patch it?
@maxnix346
@maxnix346 6 жыл бұрын
Sport and Sport+ do not allow 8th gear use. Aggravating as hell with no excuse You are correct; any BMW without M Sport seats might as well be another Corvette or Mustang seat. Automatic engine shut down upon stop can be programmed off so the default is engine always on. EPA is to thank for the stock configuration.
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ 5 жыл бұрын
Max Nix maybe because the 8th is overdrive.
@evanwilliams2602
@evanwilliams2602 5 жыл бұрын
Bro my 2011 328i x drive only gets like 19 mpg:/
@miketheman4341
@miketheman4341 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of ancient German cars are you buying? Try buying ONE good German sports car instead of three that are out of warranty!
@TheDragonDelasangre
@TheDragonDelasangre 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2013 Audi RS5 and am dealing with a similar love-hate. Its almost all love though!
@ttboy8338
@ttboy8338 6 жыл бұрын
Great Channel... Had to subscribe... Keep it up!
@travisl1759
@travisl1759 6 жыл бұрын
No way your getting 28mpg especially with the way your driving the car
@RaphaelNation
@RaphaelNation 6 жыл бұрын
I used to get 25 mpg from my e38 740il when it was newer. Unfortunately it was unreliable as it got older and the fuel economy declined, it sprang leaks and the transmission started to slip. I don't think the driving pleasure makes up for the frustration of having to fix something broken every week. No, I'm too old for that. I'd rather spend my weekends playing golf, or tennis or relaxing by the pool.
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 6 жыл бұрын
Raphael I had a used E38 740iL also, and your comment resonates with me. I’m older now and have different priorities. Can you believe it? My next car will be a hybrid lmao
@BonanzaBart
@BonanzaBart 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I bought the 2012 E92 335i M sport which I think has best of both worlds IMO: the new N55 engine BUT the legacy hydraulic power-steering and great steering feel. I also think the F30 seats are a step-back from the sport seats in E90/E92.
@melvinmorgan6155
@melvinmorgan6155 4 жыл бұрын
U should of driven a e92 335i n54 dct before u bought the f30
@dantemontalvo8709
@dantemontalvo8709 3 жыл бұрын
E46 is not even close to as smooth as the newer 3 series.
@waaromleefik2
@waaromleefik2 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, very nice video I liked it. But there are a few things I would like to point it.. Fact number one is you compare a 3 series family-sedan to a (e46) M3, a car that is made to be driven crazy. Because of all the driver settings, they are trying to make this car for more users. Like new drivers, sporty drivers, old people etc. And number two is if you want a car (especially German cars) to be nice to you, you have to be nice to them :D
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 жыл бұрын
They definitely require more care and feeding and, you're right, don't deal with neglect well.
@Trplsr
@Trplsr 6 жыл бұрын
looks like a European plate but he talks normal ?
@Joe-wl8hk
@Joe-wl8hk 5 жыл бұрын
Talks “normal” lmaooooooo
@RicardoMeleschi
@RicardoMeleschi 6 жыл бұрын
You can code the Auto stop/start function to be persistent, and many many other things. Have you looked into that yet? If not, the easiest way (if you have an iphone) is to use Bimmercode. If you're like me, and you want to understand what the codes do there are VMs available out there that let you do everything by hand but it's much easier to break things so be careful!
@Clutch2015
@Clutch2015 6 жыл бұрын
You can EASILY code the car to have it remember your auto start/stop setting. For example if you turn it off it’ll be off the next time you start your car and vice versa
@MalamIbnMalam
@MalamIbnMalam 6 жыл бұрын
Manuals are overrated these days. They do not hold any certain advantage in modernized cars.
@NothingButRye
@NothingButRye 6 жыл бұрын
Solid review! My brother and I are about to buy some german rides. Him a f30 335i like yours, and myself a 2011 135i! The n55 is a pretty awesome engine!
@pascutia
@pascutia 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have an F30 328i manual. Base suspension. I agree with you on most points. I believe you have credibility on this because you also owned an E90 328i. I loved the E90. The 328i/330i in particular. I loved the feeling of the car, the way the steering felt, the compact dimensions of the car, and the high quality interior. With that car, you didn't need the sport package for it to handle well. The suspension was so finely tuned in that car. During the first months of ownership of the F30, I was disappointed with the car. It felt cheap to me, and it was missing all the things that made the E90 feel special. I was ready to get rid of it, and then I decided to take it out on a drive on some twisty backroads. I started to push the car. I began noticing how light the front end felt, how eager it was to change direction at higher speeds, and the steering. In sport mode at higher speeds, it begins talking to you. Now, I still have my complaints with the car. Interior doesn't feel as nice, the run flat tires suck, and the body roll at lower speeds is incredibly annoying. I realized, however, that even though the car isn't as special as it used to be, it still feels like a BMW. After driving a bunch of other cars with turbo 2 liter engines, I realized how smooth and brilliant the N20 is. It's all about perspective. Yes, it isn't as fun as the Alfa Giulia, but that car doesn't come with a stick. And driving stick is super important for me. Also, the stop start system does suck. Thx for you video!
@sentoneYYC
@sentoneYYC 3 жыл бұрын
To those looking for a more recent opinion - I bought a 2012 335i Sport package on Dec 2020, car had 90k km now with 92k. Pre purchase inspection found no issues at all, no leaking on valve cover, oil pan or oil filter housing leaks, not even sign of issues. Overall the car was driven less than 10k/year since purchase. The only problem is that I broke the steering rack when I lift the car using the jack, it slip from the support lifting point and hit the base of the rack. The real break lamps tend to burn out constantly. car has PLENTY of power, and it has been reliable so far. I do expect the water pump and thermostat to tap out soon, but its an easy fix that cost around 300USD if you replace it yourself. Smooth engine pretty comfortable, and YEAH do purchase a sport package for the seats.
@richiechou1605
@richiechou1605 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest you testdrive the LCI F30. BMW addresses almost all of your nitpicks across the board. Steering is significantly improved, the chassis and suspension have all been enhanced (less bodyroll, lower centre of gravity etc), ride quality has improved, there's a ton of cosmetic changes like the new LED headlights (which has translated to other models like the new 5 series and 8 series) that make the car even more timeless, not to mention the new B48 and B58 engines are outstanding with more power down low in the rev range (and with better fuel economy). The F30 has the best reliability versus all previous 3 series (visit the forums...its been out for 6 years + and nothing crazy or major issues like the E90 generation) so while you may like previous gen models, they will produce more mechanics issues = more $$$ out of your pocket. Food for thought .
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