Here's What It's Like To Road Trip A Nissan Leaf

Kyle takes you around in the 2020 Nissan Leaf SL Plus 62kWh for a day full of driving. The main objective is to see if thermal throttling "Rapidgate" affects the charging speed after multiple DC Fast Charging sessions.
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[@donnolin2032]

It was refreshing to see a report on the Nissan Leaf that didn’t dismiss it just because of the DC charging issue and low range. I have a 2018 Leaf 40 kw and find it perfect for my situation. I only drive about 250 miles a month and charge at home with a level 2 plug. At an affordable price of $37,000, comfortable ride, solid reliability, good build quality it is a wonderful around town non-polluting car. Not everyone needs, wants or can afford a Tesla. .

[@bdeithrick]

People don’t know what they want. The LEAF suit 90% of people 95% of the time. They are all talk. N wallet. Chademo works a treat first time every time.

[@exambly]

Picking up a 19 SL plus 13k miles for 18k tomorrow

[@ceylontea5877]

I see Ariya for 33k in USA

[@cadriver2570]

17:29 that guy on the cell phone staring at the Electrify America charger.. Such an iconic scene..

[@wolfman9999999]

Yeah, EA has issues to solve

[@user-oo3uj5ku9r]

DEAD

[@mikecarter2737]

Yeah, I can turtle our Leaf going up a mountain road on a 105° day after 100 miles and a DCFC - big deal. I can also drive it carefully, start fully charged, drive 60mph (NorCal roads), NOT use freakin' B mode (regen heats battery), use LeafSpy, and I can go 450 miles before cratering the charge rate. To some degree, the car reflects the personality and patience of the driver.

[@JE-zl6uy]

I'm debating about taking my LEAF on a big trip from Long Island to Canada, trip's about 580 miles... And ABRP has me doing 7 charge stops. My only major concern: would that cause too much heat to the battery and slow my charge, or as others say, leaving it in D-Mode on highway (while dropping efficiency slightly) would keep the battery a bit cooler? Or should I just rent/borrow an ICE?

[@mikecarter2737]

@JE-zl6uy We've owned/leased 5 Leafs by now; not a one of them, even the Plus, could make that trip without significant cool-down periods, like a day hike. Or Winter with reduced speeds. Or 2 days. Others may have different opinions.

[@wolfman9999999]

We did a 1300 mile trip in our former 2019 LEAF SL Plus. 90 degree temps, plus repeated DCFC sessions had us down to as little as 11kw on the DC chargers. They're definitely a regional car, not a trip car.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

As much as people talk about cross country trips in a ev. A very small amount of people actually do it. I am 56.5 and have never done it. I drive at most of the time in my city or state . 250 mile round trip is the max kind of trip .

[@wolfman9999999]

@@markfitzpatrick6692 Most of my driving is close around. It took 11 months to discover the issue with the LEAF. Still, We do travel, and others who do drive on long road trips need to be aware. We traded our LEAF in for our 2020 Bolt to alleviate the batter issue with the air cooled battery

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

@@wolfman9999999 I know I just get tired of the Tesla owners thinking everyone travels across the country when they don’t and that is a fact .

[@terryrodbourn2793]

Yea but CCS/DFCF chargers are very few in number in Northern States of Expressways! So States(NYS is one) taking it so seriously that they are putting chargers in their State!

[@wolfman9999999]

@@terryrodbourn2793 EV infrastructure is still very much in a growth phase. There are only a few areas "out of reach" to a non Tesla EV. Say you buy an EV this year, but you don't take a long trip till next year, the DCFC infrastructure is going to look substantially different than it does today.

[@krantea]

Respect to Nissan Leaf. They held the fort for EV's while Tesla was working hard in the background.

[@douglasalanthompson]

They are still a great value play when you include the pile of incentives. In some states you are getting into a new car for less than 20K or a 0 down sub $100/month lease.

[@tony_25or6to4]

But they did damage to the reputation of all EVs with the battery degradation. The public believes you have to replace an expensive battery every 5-7 years. They may have permanently damaged Nissan's reputation by not having a affordable battery replacement and continuing to use air cooling on the next generation. I know several Leaf gen1 owners that will never buy another Nissan. They all loved the car, but hated the range, degradation, and Nissan corporate.

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@tony_25or6to4 they opened the ev doors to thousands across the world. Not all of us had a bad battery experience. Our 2013 did great for the 6 years we owned it before we upgraded to a Plus.

[@tony_25or6to4]

@@douglasalanthompson are you in a cold climate? Leafs did well in Canada and northern Europe. Or hardly ever fast charged and maintained proper charge (20-80%). The Leaf suffered a lot in southern California and Arizona, and where people had to use DC fast chargers.

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@tony_25or6to4 Chicago. Its cold enough. Even with DC charging, I rarely go over 6 heat bars. UK and Eastern European Leafs have done extremely well. A number are over 200k miles now with original packs.

[@dgmcginty]

I found a new 2019 SL with 62kWh battery for $13k off MSRP plus the federal tax credit! It was in Orlando, FL

[@Pete.Bernfeld]

Interesting you mentioned the UK a couple of times. I live there, and am on my 3rd Leaf. 30KWh, gen 2 40KWh and now Leaf Plus. Long trips in the 30KWh were possible but were an adventure. The 40KWh was a better car in terms of equipment (Pro-Pilot etc) but there was a problem rapid charging. The dealer updated the software after some initial denial there was a problem, and after that it was better but not as good as the 30KWh on multi-rapid charge trips. The Leaf Plus is better, although due to Covid I've only been able to make two road trips. The first I retraced part of the route I took in the 30KWh from my home in Hampshire up to the Orkney Isles (north of the Scottish mainland). There were some differences so it wasn't a direct comparison, on the full trip I was three up plus luggage, and on the Plus trip it was just me. I drove at 60MPH on the Motorway (Freeway) for a direct comparison. The 30KWh gave me about 100 miles range with a 'just in case' reserve, the Plus gave me a range of 220 miles with a similar reserve. The real difference was in the 30KWh you'd approach a charging station and wonder if you should stop for a quick charge or press on another 30 miles, in the Plus I'd approach a charging station and wonder if I should take a 'rest room break'. I did 192 miles/3.5 hours in one hit, and on the original trip I had made two stops at that point. No real problem with thermal throttling as you put it, I reckon you'd do 550-600 mile trips (in the UK) without worrying about increased charging time. This side of The Pond that counts as a long trip, so the Leaf Plus does what it says on the box. In 'The Colonies' you go in for longer trips (bigger country, obviously) so maybe the lack of active thermal battery management would be a problem. For trips involving just one rapid charge en route, the Leaf is simply great. More than one rapid charge and you might need a bit of patience. Tesla 3? I priced one (in the UK) before changing to the Leaf Plus. Basically £10K ($12K) more expensive on the road. For me not worth it, and being honest not really affordable. Great video, by the way.

[@tenwatts2378]

100% correct. I have a 40 KWH Tekna. I just ordered a 62 KWH Tekna. I would never drive more than 500 KM in a day. I grew up in the US and now live in Sweden. Even there in the Northeast I would never drive more than 600 KM a day. I prefer to smell the roses. Heck I even find charging to be a relaxing affair. I grab a coffee and work a bit. The gas stations are looking more and more like airport lounges. Heck I can charge at home and I still have a monthly charge subscription :) Finally the cost of a Leaf lease in Sweden is like half a Tesla Model 3 and the terms are much worse.

[@stevo4728]

I like you park next to the “No Parking. anytime” sign😃😃

[@andrewhillman9632]

Our Leaf is the local car and a new Explorer is the road tripping car. It’s a great combination for us, our family.

[@wetzel82]

Thanks for the vid Kyle. I live Tesla’s but it’s always interesting to see other EVs too

[@berthogendoorn722]

I have to say I love the CHADeMo plugs, go in easy, never had any give me trouble (2019 Soul EV) while many, very many CCS have the locks broken off (2020 Soul EV 64KWH), to bad they did not have a more robust lock mechanism on the CCS. Most of Canadian providers have 100KW CHADeMO (67KW charger speed on my 2019 Soul EV, just rockets to 73%), Rest in peace CHADeMO !

[@chrisw443]

Chademo isnt going anywhere anytime soon

[@pioneer7777777]

Just got my new SL Plus for $23k out the door after taxes and incentives. At that price it's a killer value. It was a used dealer car that had never been titled, only had 800 miles on the odometer.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Great value!

[@douglasalanthompson]

Fantastic. Half the price of a M3.

[@larryspiller15]

@@douglasalanthompson half? M3 starts at 35k. That is a killer value for a leaf though.

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@larryspiller15 Sorry was comparing to the SR+ with delivery, taxes, and a color will quickly cost you mid low to mid 40s.

[@larryspiller15]

@@douglasalanthompson dude you really going to add every unnecessary option to paint it in the worst light while we are giving the leaf all the discounts and incentives. I don't believe that the 23k was pre tax either. We also don't know the tax rate in his state so its 35k to 23k. No playing favorites.

[@encellon]

Interesting how charge stations charge by the minute instead of by the kWHr. Where the charge rate can vary between -say- 29 and 48 kW ... the price can vary by a factor of two. Not that it's big money as an EV owner, but nobody driving a gas-power car would pay twice as much for gas on hot days versus cold days.

[@bentonmelvin8477]

A youtuber from North Carolina. Thats rare! Hello from New Bern!

[@hermanwooster8944]

This wasn't clickbait at all. Loved every bit of it. It's a shame that the Leaf doesn't have good thermal management and the price is rather steep, but otherwise it looks like EVs are coming along very nicely.

[@williammoberly848]

Great vid ! Funny my 2010 Prius has that same rear view mirror ! My new 21 Model 3 DM should be here soon ....

[@AIMLL]

About to watch it, thanks for keeping us entertained through all of this! (Also is it possible if you can review Kias EVs, Lexus,etc? Have a good one and stay safe)

[@enthusia492]

Kia only has the Niro and Soul EV. Not many were delivered to the US yet and are hard to come across. Lexus produces no EVs in the US. The only EV they produce worldwide is the UX300e, which is only sold in Europe and China.

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@enthusia492 and Japan plus its also Chademo based.

[@AIMLL]

@@enthusia492 Oh, thats strange. I saw a Lexus ES 300h for sale in the U.S

[@enthusia492]

@@AIMLL hybrid =/= electric

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@AIMLL the Ux300e is coming to Australia now too.

[@Necrotron]

Honestly, I really think you should have done a full on road trip in it, even with the heating issues. If TFL can review the EV Mini through an interstate trip (which is insane) a proper 400-ish mile road trip on a Leaf Plus can be done

[@mikecoffeen7991]

I miss my 2019 Leaf LS. I charged it for 3 years only on home level 2 and had no degradation. I now have an EV-6 which is great but there was a lot I liked about the Leaf.

[@gerhardk98]

2019 40 kw Leaf owner, I have only once hit the red battery temperature and that was after DC charging from 30% to over 90% because I wanted to avoid one more charge stop. Generally I fast charge from below 20% to 70% or so and while battery temperature rises it doesn’t go into the red. Seems the top 15 to 20% of the charging really accelerates heating of the battery.

[@JosephMicheal-eu5mc]

Thanks for the awesome video

[@natehill8069]

Speaking of driving distance in the UK; they should have plugin stations inside the "Le Shuttle" chunnel trains so you could fast charge as you cross (under) the English Channel. Its not like the train doesnt have big electric power already onboard.

[@KyleBrightman]

Those new EA units are the same as the Cincinnati charging station, agreed that they are big and impressive looking.

[@TeslaModel3Adventures]

We had a nightmare time with our brand new Nissan e-NV200 40kWh & rapidgate. It was utterly useless on anything other than single charge long runs. Ultimately we had to sell it at a big loss, because Nissan wouldn't accept that they'd mis-sold the car. We were pulling 17kW on longer runs. Anyway after a trouble free year in a diesel BMW, we've ordered a new Model 3. I'm sure it'll be a different experience compared to the Nissan. Been watching your Model 3 Summer road trip videos... getting myself ready for our collection in two weeks. All the best 👍

[@jameshall5314]

I love my 2019 Nissan Leaf sl plus

[@chrislewis6049]

Was surprised that you lived in Rocky mount! I do too and just got a leaf plus!...

[@cooldadyo]

I have a 2021 Leaf and when plugged in at home I hear a Fan kicking in 😎😎😎

[@joeaverager]

Watercooled charger components? We know the battery doesn't have any watercooled parts.

[@whiterave6115]

I have really enjoyed your Mach-E, ID4 & e-Tron long distance driving videos. I have learned a ton about EVs, thanks for your videos!!! I am looking getting a cheap (under $6k) EV car. I want to drive the cheap one for about 1 yearish, before I jump in with both feet on a new EV. I would like something that can do Level 2 charging, and has a range of 70-80 miles. Would you recommend a Leaf or something else? Also how many miles until the the battery goes bad? Thanks for any assistance you can provide

[@Chrisb8s]

I really appreciate your real life approach. Driving a car 1,000 km is not really a real world case. I have an older model S. I never really charge it past 75% and even on days where I make a lot of runs and errands (here in Phoenix ) I never really get close to running out of juice. People always worry about long distance charging. On road trips even with my model S we take the volvo wagon (mainly because charging in California is a pain in the a$&).

[@ericbarnett852]

I'm buying a honda clarity plug-in hybrid. Can you do a review on one. That would be very cool.

[@daviddufresne7049]

So I just traded in the Yoder-toter 2019 Chevy Express extended for a Nissan Leaf. Did not find of the CHAdeMO phasing out until last week. I believe the regen is disabled on the Leaf during Cruise Control. Just did an Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Pennsylvania and return. Going mostly all 2 lane scenic roads. Thought mileage left system failed, too many miles left. Free Charge on Pymatuning Lake that borders OH & PA, toity break & learn new Gimble from my son. Off to NY and Lucille Ball Park on Lake Chautauqua has 2 free chargers. Decided to go to Lake Erie, did my 1st CHAdeMO in Westfield, NY, Red Leaf there failing to get it to work and left. Worked going thru my phone app. but started with 70% already, 15 min and cutoff. Up to Erie Coast, Barcelona lighthouse, then east to Presque Isle. 3 sets of 2 free chargers here. Just tested it for a short time. Decided on Interstate return due to high levels of deer hits last year. I-79 - I-80, Ohio Rts 11 & 62 home. On that getting less than advertised compared to much more than advertised. Slow speeds due to construction left me believing the cruise control the only difference. Your testing this online might be a project for you. Dave from NORUSTSTUDIOS & Eltosuper.

[@ronb4633]

Thanks for the video Kyle, what I also believed about the leaf. Well made, nice features, charging sucks. For an EV that's kinda important if not only a city car. You were saying only Tesla offers a charging planner. Can you comment on the charging planner of the Taycan.

[@joeaverager]

There is also the "A Better Route Planner" app. Really spectacular.

[@joshjacobson9846]

I’ve been casually interested in the Leaf ever since they did a preview event around 2012 or so outside a mall I worked inside of. The Ariya is high on my list to replace my Rogue. Disappointed that it is on such a delay to release.

[@abbaby555]

Interesting that even with no thermal management for the battery pack only one has had a fire... I was really surprised to read that information when I looked it up.

[@nicholasstephen1616]

great vid

[@brianmellinger7981]

Just purchased a used 2020 Nissan leaf plus 62kw battery started with an Internet price of $23,000 ended up Being $28,000. My second leaf is still own a 2014 Nissan Leaf 24kw 21:19 battery. Enjoy driving a both, But 2020 is my favorite now.🎉

[@arseniov.7809]

Hmmmm really looking at the Leaf s plus and Kona Ev (I like the Leaf size but then the Kona has more range in comparison) longest drive I believe I’d ever do is 170 as far as a trip goes, climate here is hot most of the year 100+ most of the summer. I do 120mi a week for work commute and then some few odd miles for in town errands to the grocery store

[@GordonHudson]

I think the thermal load in the 62 kw/he battery is spread across more cells than in the 40kw version. This means that the heat is less of an issue.

[@entrancemperium5506]

The 62kwh-he also has a different architecture (400v instead of 200v for the 40kwh) which generates less heat and a better chemistry.

[@tony_25or6to4]

So, just like the first generation... it's a good car, except for range, charging, and battery thermal management.

[@CNCBuddy]

Wow, that charging level is painful. Add to that if you were going anyplace warm and had to sit in the car for an hour while it charged, you would want to run the AC too. So end result, it can be done depending on how much pain you are comfortable with. This car fits the "Drive it every day, rent a car when you want to go on a road trip" model.

[@Johnwillbegone]

I am looking to buy my first ev. I'm thinking 2016 Nissan leaf or 2016 Kia Soul. The more I look..the more unsure I become. Any thoughts, opinions would be greatly appreciated. I'm in Canada.. so winter driving is a consideration. I have to make a decision soon.

[@nevco8774]

Kyle, are you living in Colorado or North Carolina or both? How do you live in Colorado and are so many times on track in NC? Amazing!

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

We are in Colorado. But we film content way in advance so that’s why the change in scenery. Although we will be traveling back and forth often

[@terryrodbourn2793]

Man I would buy the Leaf if it came with a CCS port on it!

[@shaungo1631]

The single most important info, what is the average miles per kwh on the trip. Also, what is the total charge time? You did not provide any of these.

[@bdeithrick]

All ChaDeMo charges are flawless. They killed off the best standard. No f’ing about with handshake and plug pins

[@robcossin4690]

One of the final video's from NC?

[@CrankyOldNerd]

What is this tesla to J1772 you speak of? I wasn't aware one existed.

[@dxsnap]

Question 🙋‍♂️ Why not a two battery alternating system with cooling? While on battery 2 and battery 1is depleted your charging battery 1 back up

[@joeaverager]

The battery is very large. Your idea might work well on a vehicle with a big chassis like a truck. There isn't room to put two batteries in a Leaf without requiring frequent charges. Also, once the battery heats up, it can take all day to cool down so in a very short time, both batteries would be hot. Watch the Bjørn Nyland Leaf roadtrip videos. He does Leaf roadtrips in Norway (frozen) and Thailand (sweltering hot). Just about the most extreme conditions possible.

[@VotecEV]

I swear my Leaf S Plus burns more juice using basic cruise, not blue cruise. Might test it on nearby freeway here. Cruise off, return, repeat w/ cruise on. I can start at either Foxconn or Ultium Cells up my street. Ultium has new CHAdeMOs paired w/ CCSs and several 1772s. Not online yet. In NE Ohio where I-76 and I-80 meet. Stop in if ever in my area for a local tour.

[@jamesburns2753]

Why does the fully loaded model leaf get less mileage than the base model with the same battery pack? Is it because of the wheels/tire combination?

[@Tom-cn4cm]

I love the exterior design of the Leaf, but you'd have to be crazy to spend more than $25,000 for one.

[@I_know_what_im_talking_about]

Yea but base models SUCK. The top of the line spec is Always worth it in 10 years when your car is STILL not outdated.

[@genegoodwin8925]

I like Nissans and I like the looks of the Leaf, but I live in rural America, SE Ohio to be exact. For grocery shopping the Leaf would be fine, but we doctor in Columbus and the trip is ay least 220 miles. We need more range than the Leaf provides. If the Leaf had a 350 mile range I could see owning one.

[@brianmartin3263]

The Tesla Supercharger network is as easy as pumping gas. Just takes a little longer. 😊

[@BaconatorJames]

Kyle, would you (or your subscribers) agree with my opinion that Lexus are the most reliable ICE cars available today? My parents have had a '98 LS400 and now a 2016 RX350 & these cars can't be killed. A '95 Honda Accord the family owned is still the most reliable we've ever driven, but Lexus, consistently, have been the best built cars we've ever used. My uncle has several Audis, BMWs, Mercedes and a Bentley (he's a collector) & Lexus is so much better quality.

[@douglasalanthompson]

You need the S+ for a road trip. But 85mph, real Leaf drivers keep it to 70mph. Good comments from Ben. He also unintentionally leveraged a secret by opening the hood during charging. That 2020 charging is smarter than my 2019, which I have seen 55KW at 10 temp bars. You likely get a better overall charging time starting lower. Xpeng G3 and Lexus Ux300e just launched in Norway with Chademo, so standard not quite dead yet.

[@kens97sto171]

You can't run at 70 mph in many places here in the US you will get run over. Speed limit in most of the Southwest is 80mph and everyone is going 85 to 95. The same is true and much of the rest of the country even if the limit is only 75 everybody goes faster.

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@kens97sto171 depends where you are. The speed limit is still 55 here in Chicago. Outside the city, it tops put at 70.

[@kens97sto171]

@@douglasalanthompson Definitely true. I used to live in a state where the speed limit was 55 all over the place how annoying. Most of Texas 75 to 85 mph limit. You can run 10 over with not much problem. Most of the center part of the country is similar. Very little police presence and reasonably high speed limits. this is one of the problems that I have when thinking about electric vehicles as my next car. Running at 85 mph it's a significant dent in its range. You can get some absolutely smoking deals on Chevrolet bolt EV and the Nissan leafs. but there is no way I could only Nissan. We get 110 112 f temperatures where I live. The thing would be thermal throttling every damn day.

[@bdeithrick]

Real leaf drivers drive max 62 and normally 55. 70 will heat And blow its beans

[@flolou8496]

You can find this starting in 2024 (used under 60,000 miles) for 15,900 at many dealership's, but will it hold up in SothWest from May until September in day temperatures over 105 degrees? (based on this video it does not seem very well,)

[@tameradman1]

Thinking about buying an electric vehicle for my son to commute to university with (60 miles each way). Could use the $7500 tax incentive as well… which electric vehicle would you recommend for an 18 year old (reasonably priced)? Thanks!

[@THOMASGPII]

I am in the market for an EV. The 2022 Nissan Leaf S is the lowest MSRP mainstream EV. Not counting NEVs. It is one of the few EV to use a ChaDeMo charger port. Do they sell r make a ChaDeMo to CCS adapter? Also, the 2022 Nissan Leaf S is hard to find. Other trims are easier. Thanks. If I am wrong on any of the above, please let me know.

[@ram64man]

It’s a shame so much work has been put into the suv, the leaf has been kind of forgotten, compared to the id3/4. It feels old , since the suv offers ccs they should have swapped eu and us models as well, we also know a test mule using the 64kw liquid with 4x4 is possible. With zero choice on interior colour in Europe , and hybrid display, door cards from the mk1 and a battery motor setup 5 years out of date, Nissan please update and give a full redesign

[@JeanPierreWhite]

As a Tesla driver with CHAdeMO adapter I'd like to see more than one CHAdeMO at EA stations. They can always take the cables out later and convert to CCS when the standard really does die.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Yes that would be great. Also turn the power up too 100kw since the new leaf can take that. The ccs/chademo station can do it since the ccs side is 150 kw it would not be hard to change.

[@cadriver2570]

It's not a easy conversion iirc. Tesla should really just sell a CCS adapter for their customers.

[@hdrobbe8990]

If you try to rapidgate, it will. DCFC at 80%+, drive at 80-85 mph? Yeah...

[@fireballfitness170]

I appreciate the video. 25:10... The hotter the pack the quicker the degradation so the leaf just doesn't love the road trip..

[@billh4301]

I never see info on Nissan free charging when I watch multiple EV reviews? I just bought my 3rd Leaf. 2015 and 2018 I put 30,000 miles on and never went over one bar past middle for heat range. The 2018 Nissan gave 2 years free EVgo charging. The 2020 I just bought gave me $250 EVgo charge balance on my card. The area I live, San Luis Obispo has multiple free type 2 charging. So for about 3.5 years of Leaf ownership I only paid for charging maybe 3 times! And like mentioned I got $11,000 incentive and will get tax credit for the 2020.

[@abcd-fx9bw]

Kyle can you pls do a road trip in Alberta, Canada. Love from India

[@abcd-fx9bw]

@Aswin Hanagal But the Truck drivers are crossing the border. That to from Ontario that has the highest covid cases, least are in British Columbia.

[@abcd-fx9bw]

@Aswin Hanagal I am saying dyring summer, who wants to go there in winter and get stuck in snow.

[@joeh6632]

Abrp (A better route planner) is an awesome route planner

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Absolutely!

[@JohnLumapaskeith]

Hotdamn that Lex!

[@kathleenbartolomeo5546]

What can Leaf owners do about the lack and discontinuation of CHAdeMo chargers?

[@Lesiba2]

I worry that if the car doesn't have a battery cooling system, the car can potentially catch fire if it gets extremely hot and that is a hazard to the owner. Cooling systems in electric cars must come as standard, otherwise people will not buy into the electric car frenzy

[@Hogtown1986]

Google Leaf battery fires. I’ll save you time - you won’t find any, and it’s been out for 10 years. The water-cooled Bolt has been recalled due to battery fires.

[@davidburns5988]

That should have copied something from the web site but it didn’t. What Nissan say is that it has ‘battery safeguarding technology'

[@eddietim]

Where is the 70mph range test video?

[@BeechSportBill]

What was the orange plug?

[@toddboucher3302]

I shocked that Nissan put out of date ChadMo dc charger. Where all the new chargers are combo. The air the battery in today’s age is also crazy. Even the S plus is about $33,500. We’re still thinking about one of my wife really likes it but I just think it’s really out of date it’s really too bad because they really had an opportunity when they redesigned the car to do it right become a real competitor with the corona but the range is low to get those battery issues so I believe it’s subpar

[@73_de_CJHall]

I wonder how many people will ever realize anything close to the full $7500 tax credit because they don't have that kind of tax bill at the end of the year.

[@azspotfree]

So what happens if you are driving with the AC running on a very hot summer day and the battery overheats? Does the car stop running?

[@bdeithrick]

AC has nothing to do with the HV battery pack

[@gerhardk98]

@@bdeithrick compressor is powered by the battery pack so it adds anywhere from 500 to 1250 watts to the power demand.

[@markjeepingful]

Does base model get same range?

[@mikelipke9404]

what is the charging time? what is the travel distance? I was really interested in buying an electric car but it doesnt make sense. I heard it takes 2 to 4 hours to fully charge the EV. so we are talking around 8 hours to go 250 miles. owners correct me or convince me its efficient to get an electric car. plus it costs about 50 to 60 dollars to fill your gas tank in 5 to 10 minutes, but if it takes hours to charge your EV what are you doing during that time? eating at a restaurant? sleeping in the car? what if there is a line of cars waiting for the charging station. do you get a hotel room?

[@I_know_what_im_talking_about]

😂 how about you simply don’t take a 250 mile trip in your EV. 👍🏼

[@timpalmer5805]

You imply chademo is finished. Well in the UK we can have Car to Grid and use the cars battery to power the grid or our homes chademo can do this CCS cannot.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

CCS can soon!

[@bdeithrick]

Come to Ireland and road trip a 40kwh around the coast. That’s shkill

[@kyqorioskygo8999]

Is a full EV or hybrid as a whole more economical?

[@bdeithrick]

BEV is most economical

[@mustafanaji6591]

GREAT NISSAN.

[@benkalika3131]

0.15 per KwH...Is that lower because chademo, or the fact it is a 2 year old video? Have charging rates risen that much in 2 years?

[@joelee1195]

8:30 can the leaf use CCS chargers? Is there a converter? I noticed 1 Chademo and 7 CCS chargers.

[@julesslim8229]

I've had cars which would overheat if I drove them normally, praying for easy straights and no red lights so I could get home. Then I grew into adulthood and expect better of my cars. Is there even a fan to push some air through the battery? Just Say No to uncooled batteries for long drives. This looks like a local daily driver but not an only car for sure.

[@hdtravel1]

I love EV roadtrip videos - give me more

[@jgeorge6081]

Did I see right. Did that say $0.15 per minute? That kind of pricing says Go Away.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Were have you been most public dc chargers are more than .15 cents per minute. Evgo is 27 cents per minute. Most states that have kwh pricing on electrify america and green-lots it is .30 or .31 cents for members.

[@larryspiller15]

.15 cents per minute is steep when you can hardly do 40kW

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

@@larryspiller15 that is the prices if you dont have charging at home or want to go places that is what it cost. Like i said ea has switched to kwh pricing so it can be cheaper on a slow charging leaf. I paid1.67 for 5 kwh on ea last night

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

You like that thumbnail lettering huh! Dude Efacec only needs to update some comms in the units. Glad to see them gone if the replacements work. Good video man!

[@davidburns5988]

The UK web site states ' What this technology is it doesn’t say.

[@mts982]

How do you not get speeding tickets, or is that the speed limit in that area or cops dont care?

[@AvtoWow]

Sheetz FTW!

[@Solkre82]

Such nice cars to have stupid thermal problems :(

[@roodick85]

15 cents!!!?? My local charger is 30 cents lol but it's still super cheap

[@71johnf]

I owned a 2018 Leaf for a year before switching to a Bolt. The Bolt felt like it was 3x times better on a road trip - if that tells you anything! I'm sure the difference between a Leaf and a Tesla would be staggering.

[@eltzrothm1]

Chademo is the mini USB of charging. Not micro USB, mini USB. Or it's the HD DVD vs blu ray

[@lynyrd65YT]

Happy to see Chademo go away. That and hopefully the third-party Tesla CCS1 adapter being developed are the kick in the butt Tesla needs to support high power third-party charging.

[@douglasalanthompson]

Hey, us Leaf owners need Tesla (and their adapters) to hp support the standard. Thankfully Chademo is still expanding nationwide.

[@sandpine]

@@douglasalanthompson I'm doing my part. I bought a Chademo adapter recently for my Tesla. I don't see it going away just yet. Still plenty of new stations coming online with Chademo.

[@douglasalanthompson]

@@sandpine if you look at Iowa, Michigan, and Nebraska DC infrastructure, its expanding very quickly now.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

@@douglasalanthompson yes i get tired of kyle and tom saying they are going away when that is not correct. Current leaf owners still need it and older leafs still need it. All the new chargers in my area have both ccs and chademo. Kyle is wrong wrong wrong.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Love the debate! I’m all for dumping CHAdeMO and focusing on CCS. I know many feel differently. We should perhaps coordinate a round table discussion in the coming weeks on this through Zoom. Anyone in? Send me an email if you’d be interested in joining a zoom discussion about the future of chademo - [e-mail]

[@pluggedev8464]

Like the styling from the outside, sadly the interior looks 10 years old. That and no thermal management on the battery is unacceptable, seriously Nissan even Chevy has that in the Volt and Bolt

[@Plexipal]

Did you park right next to a sign that says “NO PARKING AT ANY TIME”?

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Usually

[@mraliff933]

How I wish this car is cheaper in my country. It’s over $140k. A Tesla model 3 cost over $300k because of tax.

[@davidradzieta6458]

Never a problem for us. Just stop charging at 80%

[@christianseiler1250]

Use ABRP

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Love ABRP!

[@JeanPierreWhite]

No parking any time