Here's Why a 2.5L 986 Porsche Boxster is NOT a Complete Waste Of Time (Review)

[@institutmorningkiss]

I have a pristine 1997 986 2.5. For reference, I've previously owned more sought after Porsches, including 997.1 GT3, 997.2 GT3 RS, 987 Spyder, 996 Turbo S, 993 RS, 964 Cup, 911 RS 3.0 recreation... So, why do I own a base 2.5 despite having the means to afford more "prestigious" cars ? Because it's quite possibly the most engaging, endearing and rewarding sports car I've ever driven. The back-to-basics nature of the car is a breath of fresh air, because the basics in question are so well judged. Everything important is as good as any other Porsche : steering, gear change, throttle, brake, driving position, width, rigidity, ride, agility, adjustability. The relatively low grip and viceless chassis make the car so approachable, and the low power and torque are a positive feature, making it possible to indulge in the car with abandon. The thrill of a 986 2.5 resides in making the most of the available go, having to keep the eager engine on the boil and working to maintain through corners the speed gained on the straights. The gears are nice and short (that is so important in a sports car), shorter than on the 2.7, and the engine eager to rev and tuneful (especially with the de snorkel induction mod and Crios exhaust mod). The genius of the base 986 resides in offering engagement and driving thrill that can be totally accessed any time any place, without scaring other road users or risking one's licence. Buying this car was a revelation. For all these reasons it's a car that I'd still have in my stable (and drive very often) even if I were a billionaire. If you love driving, please go try one ! You're welcome :)

[@leechampion6538]

I get what you what you are saying maybe, I never gelled with my 3.2. I recon had I shed 50 / 100 kg from it and fitted it with skinny tyres I may have “got” it a bit more.

[@windowseat7334]

Having driven many many Porsches, including GT3's, turbos, air cooled, water cooled etc..... I honestly think the original 2.5 boxster is possibly the most pure and enjoyable sports cars of modern times. It's light, its direct, it's analogue it's not full of nanny electronic trickery and it's pure. It's not so fast it will have you worried about your licence and yet it's fast enough to be able to push on and enjoy the perfect balanced handling at sensible speeds. Top down, the howl of a flat six engine behind you and all for around £5k. One of my all time favourites.

[@danielthomas8507]

i just bought one so glad to hear this..cheers

[@tuckermyrick2609]

How is it? Asking cuz I’m looking into them

[@christianwagner2849]

I would say the 986.2 2.7 is, but yes, you're right

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

People need to remember what Porsche was about in the first place. This car is more of a Porsche than any GT2 RS, or even a 'normal' modern 911.

[@anthonyfmoss]

Well done for saying that mate! So true.

[@chrisdavidson911]

Historically, the porsche which is the best to drive is the cheapest one

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

@@anthonyfmoss Thank you, Anthony. This being said, I do think of buying a brand new base level Cayman as a gift to myself in some years time.

[@brulaapgaapmeester8234]

@@anthonyfmoss What exactly is 'true' about it? Porsche have been making 911 racing cars for ages, the GT2 is just the roadgoing version. So Porsche have been making sportscars and racecars for a long time, so the GT2 is just as much a Porsche as a Boxter. Of course, if you put the Panamera's and the SUV's into the mix, he has a point.

[@aaryeshg.6526]

Base level Boxter for me is like a 924 or even the 914. Both of those cars were designed as the Porsche for everyone. Nothing wrong with a car designed for mass market appeal. Porsche wouldn't exist if they didn't try making cars other than a 911.

[@roadmantop3769]

It is a stone cold classic, no bells or whistles, flat 6 engine, the pragmatic interior is all 90’s style. If you know anything about cars and you have driven a nice example of these 2.5, you come to the conclusion that you came to. I have one, and when I want a chipper cruise about I take the keys over my faster 911... today the sun is shining and mines going for a spin and I will enjoy every inch of the journey. You cannot buy a better car for the money #fact.

[@EliasTheHunter]

No bells or whistles, eh? My MR2 Spyder or NA Miata would beg to differ..... 700lbs adds a considerable amount of weight over those! I do enjoy my 2000 Boxster S, but it makes too many luxury-oriented compromises to be considered a bare-bones sports car.

[@roadmantop3769]

@@EliasTheHunter the early 2.5 has no air con, no cruise control, no amplifiers, no heated seats, it does not even have a glove box, that is the definition of no bells and whistles in this particular case. My car weighs 1105kg and has 214bhp, this is like me comparing my old 1990 MR2 to your spider, except my MR2 was scrapped back in 2002 ( 12 years old ) for being a rust bucket. The Porsche on the other hand is 23 years old already....

[@EliasTheHunter]

@@roadmantop3769 wow, that is pretty bare bones! I’m surprised by your weight claim, but I’ll trust you on it. My 2000 S has more options than I’d care to have: more weight, more to go wrong. But still a hoot!

[@manfromanotherplace2548]

A classic? Not yet, but it will be, and I agree that the less equitment and extra specs, the purer it is. The more you overload a 986 with stuff (and thus weight) the more it becomes like ....well a GT carof sorts. A sports car should minimalistic, raw and stripped of all things not needed. Well, that is my take on it anyway. A well sorted 2.5 will give anyone a thrill, if they take the time to get to know how to dtive it. I wanted an S because of the extra power, but after trying a lot of S, 2.7 and 2.5 I went for a 2.5. Yes, the S is faster in a straight line, but on small, bendy roads (where this car belongs) the difference is minimal. Would like the 3rd air intake from the S though. Just to be 110% sure will driving around town in summer. The stock brakes on a 2.5/2.7 are very good. No need to add the extra weight to the car, that the S brakes does. Same goes for the 6 speed gearbox. Dont get me wrong here. The S is great. But personally I dont think I get so much from an S that I would pay the extra money. As for the IMS the pre-2000 cars (which is the 2.5) have a better bearing than the later ones. Then again later cars can of course be fitted with an upgrade bearing. But it is expensive. When the time comes for the Boxster to be a real classic, I think the price gap between 2.5 and S will disappear. In the world of classic cars the first and original serie is (almost) always the desired one. Yes, the S is still a 986, I know, but extra power is not the same as extra money with classic cars. First generation standard cars are usually what collectors what. The Jag E-type is a good example. Same goes with the various 911 cars. Well, that is just my 5 cents! Buttom line is that any Boxster is great. And the time as a laughing stock is beginning to end. Buy one now. While you still can afford it!

[@EliasTheHunter]

@@roadmantop3769 bare bones, yet still heavy. It’s unfortunate, really.

[@carstenlamping8515]

This 22 year old 986 looks and sounds better than the actual base flat 4 718

[@niwouackermann8517]

Agree 100%

[@thepodbaydoorshal]

Sounds better but doesn't look better. Let's not get crazy here.

[@devandrasimanjuntak1646]

@@thepodbaydoorshal if only the 986 had a Cayman version and the facelift 996 headlights.

[@aaryeshg.6526]

@@thepodbaydoorshal I maybe in the minority but I like these headlights. Even the 911 GT1 and Carrera GT of the time had a similar style of lights. I will say however that the facelifted 996 with those pointy lights are a bit odd.

[@carstenlamping8515]

@@aaryeshg.6526 Yes , you are absolutely right. + The first 986 has a pure design. The 718 however has too many sharp edges .

[@iSkully99]

how can anyone say this is the worst porsche when the cayenne, macan and taycan exist.

[@stumo8681]

Nothing wrong with a Taycan, The others are vw/audi's

[@nadeemm429]

Nothing wrong with the taycan, but I really don’t like the Panamera

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Have you driven a Taycan? I've not heard much negative stuff about it from anyone who has. The Macan is meant to handle nicely, the Cayenne is too fat and both of them are just pointless. Neither is a sports car, so both are for people who want to do more miles in a Porsche but not in their sports cars (which aren't the most refined things...), but the Panamera is far superior to both for that, although it too is very much not a sports car.

[@Steve-K.G.]

Price. Too many people look at cheaper and dismiss it straight away. If you're a true car person, and you drove one of these you would 100% appreciate the fact that it is an amazing car for a lot less. Not everyone who's into motors will agree, but a vast majority will.

[@sjoroverpirat]

@@ApothecaryTerry saying that the cayenne is just ignorant. Need something to tow the car to track.

[@brianalder3793]

I have a Porsche Boxster s love driving it, wouldn’t change it

[@hbguitar]

Finally someone who speaks sense- my rather simple view is- it’s still a Porsche and I’d rather drive that than a fiesta 🤣

[@justinmckeown9029]

986’s are so underrated. I drove my buddy’s 986 base and almost regretted my 996.

[@jehl1963]

Here in the US, a 944 base is going to cost you about $1000 more than a base 986. Sure it's a case of supply and demand, but having had both, I'd take the Boxster any day.

[@justinmckeown9029]

@@jehl1963 I’m stateside as well, and 944’s are starting to get silly money. I have a 924S, but agree, a Boxster is the better way to spend your money. Even a base Boxster will quickly outpace a non-turbo 944.

[@niwouackermann8517]

These are actually brilliant to drive and the 2.5 is quite reliable and the lack of torque actually makes it feel asif it's rev happy. Not the fastest or best build, but feels soooo sweet to drive.

[@iantownsend500]

Nothing wrong with a 2.5 986 Boxster. Good looking car in my mind, sounds great & enough power to have fun. It’s a Porsche it doesn’t matter if it’s old or new it’s still a Porsche.

[@MichaelWilliams-rd9ke]

Nice review: just shows you should never listen to bar-room "experts" and key-board warriors who've never driven the bloody thing!

[@Pete-z6e]

Where’s the fun in that though?

[@MichaelWilliams-rd9ke]

@@Pete-z6e 😂 .....although I have to admit, it is probably something of which I'm guilty 😂

[@TimFerber]

True, I liked the boxster forever (I'm a huuuge roadster fan) but in the internet you just hear: ehhh slow, silent, blah blah. But then I drove the 987 boxster and I'm in love with the car definetly my dream car to own one day, but i think by the time i can buy one it's gonna be the 981.

[@phillipjones6848]

Have owned an 04 Boxster for a year now and am delighted with it. Always a pleasure to drive without all the electronic aids of more recent cars.

[@Sahibsinghchohan]

2.5 was my first ever “proper” sports car back in the day. Still have fond memories of it to this day......this video makes me want to go out and get one and relive the days of when I had hair on my head!!!

[@Fee.1]

How old are you?

[@Sahibsinghchohan]

@@Fee.1 42 years young

[@sholehan]

Ref the power output, a 2.5 litre Boxster has more power than a 3.0 911 super carerra, and umpteen variants of 911 that came before it. Superb cars.

[@jehl1963]

Actually the car's output is within a couple of horses of the original Carrera 2.7 RS. And a Boxster 2.5 is good for about 150 MPH, which is enough to hold your head up in the left lane if you happen to be travelling on a stretch of the autobahn which doesn't have a speed limit. Hardly slouch performance. Each succeeding model goes up from there.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

They're relatively slow cars by modern standards though- my old hybrid had 200hp...with the engine turned off (that engine having about 300, so admittedly that was a silly hybrid). The Boxster has Fiesta levels of power. Anyway, point is, it doesn't really matter that it's a bit slow. A good chassis and all that means much more than straight line performance. I looked at replacing aforementioned hybrid with an F13 M6, which of course is crazy fast...but also boring as hell to drive (most disappointing test drive of my life to be honest). Ended up with a 981CS which is anything but boring! Fun > speed.

[@wadimek116]

@@ApothecaryTerry Well on track its still quite fast 250hp, mid engine 1200kg with excelent center mass makes amazing times, If you try it with todays tires it will be still faster than any new cars.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

@@wadimek116 I assume you meant "faster than many new cars" rather than "any new cars" - in which case, typo, fair enough and I do agree. Still, having daily driven a 3.4L 981CS for 3 years, I can confidently say the Peugeot 308 GTi (1.6L hatchback) I'm driving now would *SMASH* a 986 round any track. That's what I meant by it not being fast - many common cars are faster. It's not a bad thing though, the reason I bought the Pug was that I was bored of cars I couldn't push on the road, a 986 is slow enough that you can use the performance, that's good. Anyone who wants 0-60 in 2s is a moron, why is that good? Oh yay my neck hurts, my tyres are ruined and I proved that I'm a great driver by pressing a pedal...pushing a car is fun, faster cars are for people who want to get home quickly so they can brag about how fast their car is while being happy they spent less time in it because it's not enjoyable. *There are many valid reasons for buying fast cars, I like them. It's just that "being faster" isn't one of those reasons. Also it's not unreasonable to argue the 308 is too fast anyway (until I looked, I thought they were "just" Focus ST fast, but nope!) still, I wanted the spec, I'm a hypocrite, I'm ok with it 😄 That's a long way of saying this: I wouldn't call the 986 fast, because it's not a compliment. The 986 is a proper Porsche, it's a great sports car and being not too fast is a very good thing in that case. In the hands of a good driver, it's very much not slow, but I don't think that really matters at all. Anyone who wants fast buys a chipped Golf R, people who can drive prefer a 986 😁

[@AlexanderLapajne]

I purchased a used '00 Boxster S after having owned an Mk2 GT3 clubsport. I decided I needed to downgrade my car obsession a bit and I had never owned a convertible before. I test drove a S2000 (supercharged) and 986 Boxster S on the same day and just fell in love with the Boxster. This is AFTER having owned a GT3! I had the Boxster for a year, took it on a vacation in southern Europe, and daily drove it. After that I realized how good the Boxsters are and bought a 987 Boxster S (an '07 with the 295hp engine). The 987 Boxster is a big step up from the 986.

[@klwarhouse]

As a hobby mechanic, this is how I tackle engine reliability issues. I owned one of these 986 boxsters. After buying the car, I then bought a second engine from a wrecking yard. Now while I'm driving the boxster as absolutely as hard as I can, I'm also tearing apart, rebuilding, sometimes upgrading the second engine. Then once the engine in the car goes, or I become impatient, I'll swap engines. Now I'll have a fully rebuilt engine to use, and a second engine I can now rebuild, then sell. This isn't the cheapest thing to do, but with the sale of original rebuilt engine, it covers alot of the cost of doing this. I also never once worry about something like a IMS bearing,etc. I've done this sort of thing with a E36 M3, C4 Corvette, Z32 300zx, Z32 300zx, etc, etc.

[@buildindian8169]

I bought one for my wife a few years ago, it drives ok, looks good, durable and hugs the corners as if it’s on rails.. So far we have changed only one fuel pump..

[@leebuckles2364]

Love my 2.5 boxster it's a great sound above 4.500 rpm and fantastic to drive with roof down or up never seen a yellow 2.5 before thought they were on the 2.7 or the s and mine only has 16" alloys

[@nornibres]

I just purchased a 2004 Carmona red metallic base Boxster with a 5 speed manual and a full saddle leather interior. It's my 7th car and 2nd Boxster.(2009 S with PDK) I always wanted a 986 even though a certain segment of Porschephiles look down on them. They don't seem to have a bad rep here in Canada. I was blown away by how well it drives, the howl at 7000 rpm, and the build quality. The power is fine, it is completely acceptable and a lot of fun. If you're on the fence about buying one, I would just do it before the masses rediscover this great drivers car. Thanks for the video James.

[@Speedwelltuning]

The 2.5 is a great car, with shorter gearing than the other variants it reacts really well to a lightweight flywheel and acceleration really improves. Reduce some weight and put some Koni suspension on and you have a wonderful sounding, great driving sports car.

[@andybroer651]

I bought a '99 Boxster with the 2.7litre motor for my son. I bought it from a friend for $4k USD with 97k miles on it. I replaced the top with a glass window version and serviced it, but otherwise it has been a great little car. My wife and I took it on a road trip from Silicon Valley to Paso Robles in CA's central coast for our anniversary. Great little car! Handles well, 217 bhp gives stronger performance than the 2.5 and the ride is very compliant yet still sporty! We have the all leather interior (silver car and black interior) that looks classically German. I also love the engine note, much better than a 911 sounds. I can hear the intake honk! Reminds me of my 308 Ferrari GT4! A steal second hand.

[@ovenorway]

I have owned one for 6 years now. Traded up from an MX-5, like so many others. The 2.5 Boxters are pretty gutless below 4000 rpm, but wakes up after that. But as you said, you got to work it...

[@danielthomas8507]

i got both but having trouble saying goodbye to the mx5

[@piers1966]

Great video and review. I’ve had 10 older 986 and 987’s and they are brilliant cars to own and most of all drive, currently have an 01 2.7 and it puts a smile on your face every time - these are 2/3 of a 911 and although bar room ignorance has always been an issue when you actually drive one you know! good to see so many boxster lovers in the comments.

[@sh010272]

Had my 2.7 986 for ten years. It’s a 3rd car, always makes me laugh when people say cheap car, no power etc. If you live in the real world... and I do. It’s perfect for the average Joe. Most keyboard experts have never owned one. If you are wanting a great real world car. I highly recommend.

[@RoderickVoordouw]

I have the same, and an 110hp MX5. To me the 986 is a rather fast car. And no torque as Jay says.. It's all relative if you come from the Mazda ;-).

[@gsw8734]

Most keyboard experts can't drive!

[@edykhan6618]

I bought a 986 2.7 year 2002 a week ago , quite random buy as I didn’t need a car I have a Range Rover sport as a daily driver . But it’s a beautiful machine and very glad I bought it . Can’t wait til the summer

[@RoderickVoordouw]

@@edykhan6618 Obviously you have great taste. Enjoy the Boxster!

[@danielthomas8507]

@@RoderickVoordouw we have the same taste in cars mate , i own a 986 2.5 5spd and a 91 mx5...both anmazing cars...cheers

[@stephenkean4748]

anyone else remember the boxster ps1 game? 😁

[@minatormyth]

😂😂 oh yes I do. I also remember when you bumped into another boxster the driver would shout out " my boxster!!" 😂😂

[@_TheElMan]

Wow, had forgotten about that but loved it at the time.

[@LEEROY_UK]

Yup ! 😂

[@tanner1ie]

"Go, go, go!" 😃

[@CptFlasheart]

Porsche challenge 💪

[@nickrichardson7451]

I’d always look at the base model as in your own words “at National speed limits” it is actually really good. Increasingly it is quite hard to find roads that a free of traffic and where one might exceed the speed limit! I think more info on Porsche running costs would be interesting for us non-owners. Like yourself I have an oldish 69,500 miles Ferrari, & I’m awaiting your realisation on your 550, that they can cost unexpected bills! Mine has had £4,000 on electric gremlins in the last 6weeks! I’ve thought of having an oldish Porsche too, but tales of expense with IMS & RMS etc are killers! I always had old Ferrari’s since 1982, and they do need money spent on them. But the enjoyment comes from the times they drive wonderfully in the same way you just enjoyed the old Boxster. The buying is only part of the expense story.

[@Legaumaisdsts]

The 1997-1999 Boxster 986 has a 96.20 (2480 cc) engine which has the original double row bearing and has no problems. From 2000 to 2002 were M 96.22; from 2003 to 2004 of M 96.23; the S from 2000 to 2002 for M 96.21 and from 2003 to 2004 for M96.24. who have the IMS problem.

[@march3769]

@@Legaumaisdsts IMS problems are well overstated! Change oil regularly. Don't let the car sit for too long. Drive the crap out of it!

[@evrensokmener6768]

I had a black 1998 one. It was a childhood dream to own one. I purchased mine for £4k in 2012. It's not a slow car. It is faster than a ep3 civic type r. Its handling is brilliant. Great car.

[@wildwest5436]

Love my 99. Same sentiments! My comments with people talking trash about the Boxster is, "Dont knock it until you try it!"

[@mr.terwilliger5728]

I have a 2000. It’s a great car, 5 speed is a little frustrating on the highway. But otherwise it’s a fantastic cat. You can tell they truly engineered this car for the track

[@HOG883R]

Great video. I own one 2004 2.7L for 18 months now, and just love it! As you said, really good on corners, fast enough to have some fun without going crazily fast (and losing your license), and so far very reliable. Have had any issues, and as a Porsche fan I am really pleased with it. Don't think I need more power, a 911, a 'S' version, whatever. Not too bad on fuel as well. Mine does close to 25mpg in the city, and around 33mpg cruising at 70mph. 😊🤘👍

[@bobgieser2943]

I have had my 2003 Boxster Base for 5 years. I really love this Porsche. I always wanted a Porsche when I was young, but could not afford what I wanted. I was 69 years old when I saw my 03 Boxster in a dealers lot, in USA. I bought it within a couple days. It was not taken care of by the last owner, but I made up for that and never was upset or regretful for buying this car with 95,000 miles on it. Nice video you made here and keep up the good work.

[@simonodell2103]

In my experience the only people who mock a boxster have either a) never driven one or b) never owned one .I used to think like this until I drove a 2.5 years ago .I now own a 2000 986 3.2s (4 years )Fantastic car and prefer it over 996 and older air cooled models both of which I have driven .Snobbery plays a massive part in the Porsche world unfortunately.

[@jerrys.]

For a bit of perspective the Ford Sierra Cosworth of which I have fond memories had 205bhp and I guess a similar weight the 986. The 4x4 Sapphire version was bumped to 227bhp to offset the extra weight of the awd transmission. No one called them slow or under powered.

[@thesilentgametestr]

people have higher expectations from cars like porsche which is probably why. no car with 200hp plus is slow. some just expect supercar feel 😆

[@Nord_Mann]

Nice little runabout for uncomplicated drive moving joy👌🏻

[@VinceWatches]

Very professional and exact review. I own a 2.5 for 10 years now and still enjoy it!

[@RickBeacham]

I love driving the s2000 and the Porsche Boxster with these cars you can really feel the road and the balance is great.

[@aZeddPrattFilm]

My daily is a NA Miata and this is my next car. I just love the design and feels great to drive. The yellow is amazing along with the silver and red.

[@aZeddPrattFilm]

@@Sto950 way too much $$ but maybe one day. If I’m gonna pay $30k I’d rather it be a ND

[@papatorr3669]

@@aZeddPrattFilm Whaaat? Pay $30k for a Miata? Have you looked at the Porsches you can buy for $30k? I'm not going to trash talk my '95 NA, it is the best Japanese economy sporty car of it's era. And I even took it to the Tail of the Dragon this past summer. But it doesn't do one thing better than my Boxster, unless you're looking at MPG or some economy car feature. And as fun as a Miata is, the Boxster is Funner! Ditto for my NA vs my Z3. That's why my Miata is regrettably getting sold. All three keep going up in value!

[@bobopet2]

I have one and it's brilliant dude It has enough power It is very reliable... I changed the IMS bearing seal and it s all ok

[@jackpirie7583]

This specific car is actually for sale on gumtree at the moment. Absolutely brilliant road that one up to glenshee ski centre too

[@adampirie25]

Yeh it’s a cracking road, great views along the way as well

[@91amh]

Drove an early 2.5 like this the other week… a 1999 with 130k and could not believe how good it was, by any standard let alone given the age and miles. My findings were the same as yours, what a sweet car!!

[@EnglishroG]

Most driving in the UK takes place between 20mph and 85 mph, 204 horsepower and a 0 to 60 time of 6.7 seconds is more than adequate for that. A fine little car and original low mileage examples will start to appreciate soon.

[@veemacks7255]

Bloody loved mine when I had it, late '90s. I'd had way more powerful cars before it and after it, but it remains strong in the memory as being a joy to drive.

[@aviationlba747]

What did you replace it with? If you don’t mind me asking.

[@veemacks7255]

@@aviationlba747 kzbin.info/www/bejne/apnLq62EZpdmeKc

[@aviationlba747]

Very nice! Can’t go wrong with a Merc.

[@bollandj]

Great to see another review praising the 2.5. Love my ‘98 in a rare colour. (Ocean Jade). Drives more nimble round corners than the 3.2 being lighter as well.

[@nornibres]

Love that colour. Never seen one offered for sale in Canada. I'm currently looking at a Zenith blue 98, another great colour. Porsche offered some great colours for the 996 as compared to the boring palette of choices for the current 718.

[@sokgso]

I also enjoy my 2.5 Ocean Jade 1998 with the «Trend Package» (exterior color trim on roll hoops, gear knob, door trim, and cluster trim) 😊

[@jvanegas14]

It's a little sad that the 986 is so overlooked. It basically saved the company back in the 90s

[@soundsheavenly]

Superb video, thanks for sharing! I've always liked the original Boxsters as they are more fun on a twisty road for the average driver than many hard-core cars. At their current values, they are absolute bargains ;-)

[@grahamsmith2022]

Jay,if it comes between this,badge engineered Volkswagens "S.U.V's",Cayenne's and the Panamera I'm grasping for the Boxster like a man grasping for a bottle of water that's been in the Sahara for 2 days,there's no pretentious bollocks here,it is what it is.

[@russcattell955i]

Yes, overpriced VW's with an identity crisis.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@russcattell955i Depends on what you mean by overpriced, compared to its competitiors they certainly arent that bad. When the first gen cayenne turbo launched, it had no competition. One could of course say its been downhill from there... Its all relative really.

[@CarsWithJB]

Great review - it’s looking increasingly classic by the year, values seem to be reflecting that too 👀

[@hawkinsjd11]

I have had my 2003 Boxster S since 2019-03. It is a superb car. I have spent more money than I should have, but the car is properly sorted and some tasteful updates have made it an absolute joy to drive.

[@stefanbadass5357]

"Good Colour Too" says the man with exquisite taste in shirts...lol

[@resnonverba137]

Quite. Not a good advertisement.

[@augustortiz]

I have one of these with a full bilstein coilover kit, h&r sway bars, exhaust and 997 C2S brakes. It’s definitely the most fun car I have driven. Even friends who have much higher hp sports cars loved driving it and agree it is a riot.

[@Martraul-CoramDeo]

I’m a proud owner of a 987 Boxster. The Boxster is what saved Porsche from going under, a true Porsche vehicle.

[@martinsadventures3691]

I have a Dec 03 2.7 Boxster owned for over 8 years 😊 road trip down to southern Spain and back what a joy would never let go 😊 and yes it’s a proper Porsche puts a smile on my face every time I take it out 👍

[@disturbingkreationz]

Great video even 3 years later mate.

[@IkenOuse]

200 hp / 1250kg and you drive it hard it will take a turbo NA / NB or NC MX5 to keep up .

[@alphaboy1872]

I loved my 2002 Boxster S 3.2 in Artic Silver. Extremely reliable fun car. Best bang for your buck! It was the start of my car fetish. I moved to a 987s 3.4 which i loved even more. I sold that and now in an Alfa 4c looking at a McLaren 570s. It never ends.

[@yueibm]

Common things that go wrong on these: water pump with plastic vane separation / impeller separation from shaft, coolant expansion tank, HVAC vent flaps that disintegrate and blow out chunks of foam, easily clogged water drains, water leaks that require new immobilizer + programming, door locks that break internally, ball joints on lower control arms, ignition modules that crack, seat belt buckle switch, starters that retract too slowly and grind on the flywheel, convertible top mechanism gears (made of nylon), convertible top plastic windows that crack, air/oil separator, IMS bearing and seal (actual statistics debatable), later cars have front trunk releases that fail, shift cables that may detach from the transmission linkage, 2nd gear partial engagement on 6 speed (S trim) transmissions, clutch switch malfunction resulting in no start, battery drain, jammed ignition switch due to worn steering wheel lock mechanism, motor and transmission mounts, headlight internal lens overheating (halogen models). I've had all of these issues between a 986 and a 996, and a few of these issues on my 997. Less common but serious issues: cylinder wall scoring, cylinder wall separation (D-chunk failure), timing chain / guide / variocam wear (not very common).

[@march3769]

They are amazing cars! Porsche has been making mid engine cars for a long time. In my opinion - the Boxster is better balanced than the 911 and handle so much better! Mine is a 2000. Still looks and drives like new!

[@AndeeLuxee]

Sold me. This will not be my first or last sports car purchase but this video is the reason it will be my next. Thank you!

[@alexandervanwyk7669]

What do you know James, was my first impression. You guys climb in a car and review it for 10 minutes and think you know it all. All respect, you know nothing! I drove my little 97 model now for over a decade, from 100k to 250000km's. What a dream car. Strong, tough and completely reliable. Perhaps one of the best (simple, tough, reliable economic, dirt cheap) little sports cars, would not be far off to the truth. (I owned to date 48 cars) Via you tube, even a (stupid) mechanic like myself maintains it very easily. I'm a (poor, stingy) perfectionist. On cross country rides I only once maintained 230kph in a Porsche Club convey run. Often I just cruise at 200 when conditions permits. What an simple vehicle to maintain. Cheap. (scary perhaps if you depend on w/shops) Since I have it, I serviced it myself. Easy. I only use synthetic oil. Still to date it doesn't burn any oil and its always super clean, never blackens. Mine is 'decatted'. I run with 19" 275x30's rear. (Ult max) IMS issues are the biggest bullshit on the planet! I even confirmed it at my local Porsche dealer. Since 4 years ago, I only reconditioned starter motor, cleaned throttle body, replaced engine and gearbox bushes, all (Coni) shock absorbers and coil springs. Easy as pie. (Got new w/bottle, clutch-kit, belt & pulleys w/pump, thrmstat/h etc just incase I will need some day because I can't see parting with it. Had some issues with door handle cable that broke, refitted some micro switches of roof. Fixed easily, thanks due to You Tube. Plastic window starts to crack. Me and my boys participate frequently in track race days with P Club. Awesome fun where you can enjoy safely all of its 200 horses all the time. Over and over. Still immaculate after 23 years. This, my friend, is the requirements you should have in order to review a good second hand vehicle. Note the safety factor when you say low power, low revs at 6500; the benefit is DURABILITY for decades to have guaranteed fun. Sorry for my critic, thanks for your review though.

[@Voiceofreason99ify]

Spot on buddy - brilliant car. Had mine over 15years .

[@marvinsamuels1237]

I’m so torn between a 986 2.5 or 2.7 and a MX-5 nc 2.0 roadster or RC! I thought the 2.5 would be a little underpowered, but in reality all I want to is own a Porsche and experience that flat 6 engine note and typical Porsche ride/handling balance while I’m still young enough to do so. Having driven (and thoroughly enjoyed) an ND and NC MX-5 already, I think you’ve helped me make up my mind. 986 it is!!

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Enjoy it!

[@ukwan]

I absolutely loved my 2.5L 986, it was a fantastic car, it was a lot quicker down a country road than you might give them credit for. Not a dragster by anyone's standards though.

[@augustortiz]

I agree a lot of higher hp cars had trouble shaking me off on mountain roads, that being said it really was dead slow on the straights.

[@LushmanGB]

Great vid, I have a 986 2.5 boxster and in my opinion the thing that let it down are the tip tronic gears can feel slow to respond. The previous owners did not really care for it much putting the cheapest tyres they could find so it understeers dramatically. I have decided to keep it and show it some love. I do prefer the s2000 I had.

[@JohnAgustinScuderia458595]

How is your ownership experience so far? I saw one for sale in yellow and the same tiptronic transmission as yours. I am really really tempted to buy one! 👀

[@LushmanGB]

@@JohnAgustinScuderia458595 hi John, I sold mine last spring as I was buying a house. I loved driving it but it had some niggles. If the alarm does not work walk away or you’ll need a new acu and ecu. Also check for leaks and ensure the carpets are dry and the drain holes in the back are clear.

[@JohnAgustinScuderia458595]

@@LushmanGB Thanks for the feedback! I am just worried about the Bearing Issue that some of these cars have. 😅

[@LushmanGB]

@@JohnAgustinScuderia458595 the 2.5 is one of the lower risk ones. Mine had 150k on it so I would have expected it to have gone before I bought it

[@greencapella]

Great review James! Love and respect your opinions on cars. I have a 987 S boxster and love it! The best car for the price and would only replace it with another boxster or 911

[@theworldsyourlobster1583]

This is the start of the evolution of the latest GT4 and SPYDER 718 , mid engine rear wheel drive normally aspirated flat 6 manual if it wasn’t for the 986 2.5 boxster in 1996 we probably wouldn’t have them now ..

[@Nounooon]

Bought one of these, a base 986 from 98, for 3.5k€ in early 2015 and ran it to the ground as my daily until earlier this year. I only did oil, tires and brakes maintenance, nothing else. Many things went wrong over the years, cosmetics issues, roof becoming manual, suspension squeak, AC not working, window being blocked, speakers not working, spoiler not working, but it never ever left me stranded. It a nearly killed me on a mountain road when the power steering fluid pipe exploded mid turn leaving oil on my rear tires, but it then worked without power steering for over three years. I’ve sold it for parts to a garage as it seriously overheated leaving coolant on the ground and white smoke, but learnt that he managed to do quick fixes and sold it again for the price I had bought it for. Great car, fun car.

[@zupperm]

Hey man I just want to say thanks. I've been looking at your car videos for ages and just brought home a 1998 2.5 Boxster.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Congratulations, enjoy it

[@evansanchez4767]

I had a 98 boxster just like this. Base. 5 spd. No options. Had zero problems at 180k miles it got totaled.

[@oldrrocr]

Great vid!. You forgot to mention that if you do your homework and hold out for a "clean" one, it won't cost you much more than one that has been "driven hard and put away wet". Now I will go out and drive either my wife's Miata or my pristine RX7 convertible... and gloat a little.

[@David-dt2md]

I admit I was always something of a 911 snob and could never see myself owning a Boxster. Don't get me wrong, I was never part of the "it's not a real Porsche" crowd and am always happy when others are happy. I just wouldn't own one, just not for me. Life intervenes, kids come along, and the reality is I am never going to be able to own another 911. A friend who happens to sell cars called me up and said I needed to come drive this Porsche they had just taken in before it hit the lot. It hadn't been cleaned up or prepped for sale yet. Driving it reminded me a bit of my r53 GP and r53 JCW cars. Just fun to drive. They never fail to make me smile when I am driving them and every ride is an adventure - even to the grocery store. That '99 Boxster never hit the lot.

[@brettc9647]

Thanks for the Boxster video. I have enjoyed mine for years!

[@neli5p]

There was LOTS of go in my 2.5L 986 ... fantastic car!

[@84SebaT]

I got myself a 2000 2.7 and I love the car. It's timeless!

[@CapitulationTrader]

F king great, simple, and honest review. It’s a fun car that has unavoidable costs to own. Disclaimer…Owns or owned 993, 996, 987, 997. Cheers all!

[@AntoniusTyas]

I mean, it's not exactly a looker, but when you're the one driving you don't really care. Especially when it drives like a Porsche should. Pity it will cost me GBP30k here.

[@8359s]

IMS is not big of an issue, the issue is bad oiling system :(, it can't cope with more than 0.8G, the X51 package for early 996 was helping but this is the only non Turbo non GT engine that was semi ok. I was able to reliably pull 1.2G in 944 on coarse concrete course, I would kill the Boxster that way, I know example of a car that engine failed on serpentines in Alps because of that.

[@nikolaslarson6891]

Lovely car. Still affordable but slowly getting into the classics range and price class. 200 hp are perfectly OK for me.

[@nornibres]

The thrill of acceleration hides an awful lot of sins.

[@peterkirton4580]

Good review. I have owned 2 Lotus Elise, and 3 Porsche Boxsters. The 986 S Anniversary model I owned from new and did 108,000 miles in it which was plenty powerful enough for me, third gear was good anywhere between 20 mph and 106 mph. Wonderful car.

[@amishgamer9780]

Bought me a 2002 2.7L 5 spd. back in June, and what I can tell you is that every time I drive it, I have a smile on my face. This is my first Porsche and my first manual, which i learned on this car. Cheap insurance, maintenance isn't terrible and you can honestly do a lot of work yourself if you do your research. My advice is if you want a car, no matter what it is, go for it, because were all gonna die one day so might as well have some fun while you can and take some risks.

[@peterk8845]

Thank you, great and straight review!! 100% confirm your experience. Enjoying my 1997 2.5 since 1999 (Silver with Boxster-red interior).

[@josephtdi8764]

It’s still quicker than the majority of cars on the road aswell from 0-60

[@JohnAgustinScuderia458595]

Just saw an ad today the price is very reasonable and that car is in this exact color very very tempting to get one! 👀

[@tylerthornton3107]

That car saved the company. That car with some reasonable mods is an excellent little race car. Beautiful hips and proportions with a mid engine.. Enormous bang for the buck and same Porsche quality. It’s the next big thing!

[@TheYjmfan]

I used to own an older 911 Carrara I now own a 2.7 Boxster and it is far superior to drive than that was I’ve owned it nearly 4 yrs apart from the normal running costs haven’t spent a penny on it great car I just love my one with its hardtop on.

[@motorheadscottie456]

I own a 97 2.5, and honestly i wouldnt remotely say its underpowered. It lacks torque in the low end … but when that motor winds up she MOVES. Not to mention the car is cheap to maintain… cheap to repair… costs less than a NB miata but handles better and has more power. Not to mention the better comforts such as power/ heats seats…power top, abs, digital climate control, on board computer read out, staggared wheels with factory 4pot brembos front and rear. Honestly. Its hard to argue for the price today.

[@allannicolson2607]

I have a speed yellow year 2000 3.2S 986, with GT3 nose and wheels, along with Porsche MO suspension set - I believe all from new, with 85,000 miles and good history. It's not even close to the fastest car I've ever owned (and not on the same planet as my current or past bikes), but I'm more than happy with it. I've had several road legal hill climb cars that would leave most Porsche or Ferrari products breathless over give and take roads - anyone car drive fast in a straight line, but the boxster is a beautifully put together sportscar with more than enough power for the times we live in, and looked at in isolation is simply a great all round car, and neither need it be expensive to run if you do your research, and know a decent garage, although I'm to do most of my own maintenance, and know where to get parts.

[@purplegod4_pokemonGO]

Great video, I'm going to take my boxster to next level by putting a 996 turbo engine and manual trans with much more as well.

[@parvinkukar1259]

Great vid, before buying my cayman 987 I did strongly consider the early boxster and there is so much choice. Only addition advice would be there are so many ropy ones out there and although tempting at a low price avoid them and go and spend a couple of £0,000’s more and get a good example

[@lastname-Nm]

What a gorgeous lil car That might be the best color on it ever

[@martingregory5955]

I just bought one at 59yo and a dream car. I love it! Its a 2.7 and amazing condition but I'm in NZ so no rust issues here just like my BMW. Should you buy one? well only if you have heart for cars after all I have a BMW and know its needs and deliver them and serves me well. Being an ex BMW bike mechanic, I know the german mentality with high regard. If your heart yes then do it but with eyes open as will break

[@GuardsRed996]

As far as I know the 2.5 isn‘t affected by the IMS issues and that makes it quite a good deal.

[@christophsoltau4662]

Yes, but..... high mileage, age, poor servicing and you can't be that sure. My advice: change oil and filter regularly and cut the old one open to check for little steel flakes. Think glitter. I've just changed my IMSB at 184000km, 98 Boxster 2.5. Original dual row bearing, still in one piece but heavy pitting of the balls and cage very loose. Very glad I did it. Reasonable DIY job. Check youtube channel Burners Garage for tips including diy s for the custom tools.

[@brandonkarcher23]

@@christophsoltau4662 I'm thinking of buying a 2002 2.7. It already has a lot of miles on it, around 160k miles, and it's in pristine condition. Since the IMS issue apparently only affected 8% of the cars, do you think if it was going to have problems with IMS it would have by now?

[@christophsoltau4662]

@@brandonkarcher23 At high mileage consider it a maintenance item to be replaced whenever the clutch is being done or the engine is out the car for other work. The biggest cost is in the labour involved in removing parts to get to the bearing If the rest of the car is neat and the oil filter is clean of metal debris the don't stress about it. Ask if the cam chain pads have been replaced and have the cam deviations checked by a knowledgeable shop. These pads wear out and replacement is an engine out job. From what I've read, the 2.7s are sweet engines.

[@brandonkarcher23]

@@christophsoltau4662 Thank you. Although I think I am probably just going to get an SLK 32. It's actually cheaper.

[@paulkayser7553]

Great review as the 2.5L Boxster is a fantastic car. I have both a 97 Arena Red version and a MX5 NC sport so it has the 5 speed. I would agree with your comparison but the Boxster is the one I would pick. I also have a 996 Turbo X50 and a 996.2 GT3 and although of course both are amazing cars for the windy roads around here where I live the Boxster is most times my first choice to take out for a early morning ride.

[@tomasabraham5651]

Hello I own mx5 NC 2.0 with bilstein and it is superb! I am thinking about to go for a Boxster but I am not sure if it is step up... My NC IS tuned 180hp, its perfect, but I think Porsche is another level...but never drove it... I am affraid that I will sell NC and will be dissapointed with Boxster... It is much better than mx5???

[@grahamnutt8958]

Another enjoyable review there and reminded me of a time when a PB wanted to take on my Camry V6..... We parted company with mutual respect - that's all I'm prepared to say 😆. Before anyone asks...... no, the car was sold many years ago lol.

[@andrewweaver8420]

I own a Mclaren 570s, Bentley GTC, Porsche Cayenne S and Range Rover Sport SVR, and... a Boxster S.. The latter is 2010 and its the best car I have ever driven. Its fast, great handling/mid engine, more powerful than the 2020 models (I took it 275kph with roof down), comfortable with plenty of interior space, and is practical with front and rear storage. Boxster S is also cost effective, even new...What more could you want!!

[@MDQDZINE]

Never understood the supposed hate for this model. I Love mine and get complements on it all the time. And let's face it, it is a known fact that it was the 986 that saved Porsche. If it wasn't for this car, there most likely be a Porsche car company today.

[@RussellMiddleton]

Great review. Got a base 2.7L 987 and think the power is just about perfect for the public road. Quick enough to get in a good rhythm on a winding road, slow enough to hear that glorious engine note for a few seconds at a time. Like the owner, also used to have an Elise; on the perfect road on the perfect day it was sublime, but the Boxster is fun in a far greater range of situations. Also running a Golf R for sensible stuff. It's really hard to use the power on anything other than motorway on ramps, and the steering feel isn't on the same planet as the Boxster.

[@brianiswrong]

I recon £10'000 spent on a nice boxster S manual is the sweet spot. Save £1'000 a year to a " fun or fix fund" and expect it's running costs for tyres,brakes,fuel and insurance to be above a " ford". Now a boxster with nice clean calipers/ discs and alloys is going to look the part on the drive ,and not disappoint on a drive.

[@dylanh1978]

Great review. I think they're getting better looking by the day aswell.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Just bought myself a '98. Am sure it will make a fun driving summer. To be wrapped in either pale yellow or the 917 blue/orange livery. Cost me all of £2000 👍

[@willwatson9573]

Bought a ‘97 Boxter as my first car for $3,750. Unfortunately it’s time to let it go so it’s up for sale now, but I’m glad to see there’s other people out there that appreciate them.