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Is foreign aid actually a giant scam? Each year, the global north takes a net total US$3 trillion from the global south. How is this happening? Anthropologist Dr. Jason Hickel explains. “Poor countries don’t need charity, they need justice.”
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@pinkcat5011
@pinkcat5011 4 жыл бұрын
"A Global Apartheid" "Colonialism never ended. It just changed form" "Poor countries don't need charity, they need justice" Jason Hickle just keeps throwing more and more hot dialogues
@AMAZING-bi6ib
@AMAZING-bi6ib 3 жыл бұрын
explain the justice
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly if any country is engaging in colonialism it is China.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
Literally stealing countries resources, writing loan shark loans, exploiting people.
@ogeo.8966
@ogeo.8966 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanhartnett79 so you want to write off the evil of colonialist and imperialist governments just like that?
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@@ogeo.8966 no. I am saying that foreign aid at least tries to do something. Now it depends on the nation France generally will provide security assistance but you have to allow drone strikes with no accountability, no apology and no payment for mistakes. China will steal your nations resources if you don’t pay them. The US will want free trade and sometimes measurable progress to democracy,
@sonasworld8982
@sonasworld8982 2 жыл бұрын
We couldn't agree more, we have seen firsthand how the Charity and Westren AID has destroyed Cambodia over the last 40 years
@donaldestevez3288
@donaldestevez3288 Жыл бұрын
You are correct and America should stop all internal AID to Cambia and all the 190 other countries we Americans support every year with now over there trillion American dollars handed to 190 nations . With out Free America the world starves and falls into tyranny much worse than ever.
@chinmayadhiman3358
@chinmayadhiman3358 3 жыл бұрын
I've read your book... Im just speechless
@GoddessGebrina
@GoddessGebrina 3 жыл бұрын
Which book pleases?
@dounialani7056
@dounialani7056 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoddessGebrina the divide
@GoddessGebrina
@GoddessGebrina 3 жыл бұрын
@@dounialani7056 🙏🏾
@tuja464
@tuja464 2 жыл бұрын
I have been giving a lot of thought about this issue to find out why. Now I have come across with this author on you tube. I like to read this book badly. May be I can buy somewhere
@jeankern2646
@jeankern2646 Жыл бұрын
Everybody should read The Divide. Eye opening.
@thegreatburt9005
@thegreatburt9005 3 жыл бұрын
Superb. Watched this video whilst waiting to find out about UK's commitment to foreign aid budget. A shocking and disgraceful history that needs justice rather than aid.
@alilaomondi
@alilaomondi 10 ай бұрын
I'm in Kenya and I can see that individuals who receive aid in the form of maize flour for example are given a mindset that they need aid and saving and that aid is a part of the human need. This individual might even be a very productive sugar or tea farmer (export products) but believe that in some way or another, a person from the North is supposed to intervene in their life otherwise there is no life. This mindset was forced upon us by the British with a gun in one hand, so I understand why we have it. I'll admit, some in the Global North do some things at an advanced rate but we don't need them in terms of food production. It's almost as if some humans love being needed by other humans. It's a narrative we love putting on. I am fighting this
@lilybaytoday
@lilybaytoday 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work. This is incredible. Why aren't there more views?
@carriemunnick9980
@carriemunnick9980 3 жыл бұрын
Are these issues similar to the ones that keep rich rich and the poor poor here in America? In the last 2 years I've seen a huge increase in homeless people near my house. I'm not talking about a few here and there, I'm talking about thousands.
@ConstructiveMinds100
@ConstructiveMinds100 2 жыл бұрын
Yes gred, Greed, GREED, G. R. E. E. D
@rayanswar1765
@rayanswar1765 3 жыл бұрын
i'm so impressed ! that was a great vid
@JamesAlexander9090
@JamesAlexander9090 8 ай бұрын
This is the best video to cover the current events with 911, Saddam, Gadaffi, China and African nations well.
@dervesK
@dervesK 4 жыл бұрын
He's so right. There it becomes crime to be rich in next decades
@virgill2452
@virgill2452 Жыл бұрын
would be nice
@everynamewastakenomg
@everynamewastakenomg 2 жыл бұрын
Global minimum wage is absolutely the way to fix this problem but in reality it is never going to happen. The rich countries don't want to risk losing their position in the world and the corrupt governments in African nations couldn't care less about the people of their country. It's the same old story throughout human history. Everything happens due to greed and a hunger for power.
@omarpineiro3184
@omarpineiro3184 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I agree with Trump slowing and almost stopping “Foreign Aid”. It helps no one but the elite globalists.
@apricotcomputers3943
@apricotcomputers3943 3 жыл бұрын
and ironically you have idiots from the global south not even realising that Trump is on their side... which goes to show the poor are so inept they end up tieing their own noose.
@karlwheatley1244
@karlwheatley1244 Жыл бұрын
@@apricotcomputers3943 "and ironically you have idiots from the global south not even realising that Trump is on their side... which goes to show the poor are so inept they end up tieing their own noose." That is hardly the case: Trump wanted to cut foreign aid AND keep exploiting those countries in the ways the US has done for decades. Trump also exploited the poor and middle class in America--his COVID bill was largely a giveaway to the rich and corporations while Biden's COVID relief bill largely benefited the poor and middle class.
@ianrichardson386
@ianrichardson386 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I loved the video. Currently doing my capstone research paper on this topic. Are you able to link the sources you used? Especially the ones that have to do with an inverse flow of capital from the Global South to the Global North. Thank you!
@ManuelPrenza
@ManuelPrenza 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get the links
@beama999
@beama999 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@GGgg-vl7qi
@GGgg-vl7qi Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I'm currently doing a research paper on this topic for my undergrad, do you have any sources I would be able to access. Kind regards from an IR bachelor student.
@ScottHaley12
@ScottHaley12 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Hickel - right on the mark, AGAIN. KUDOS! Keep on truckin', man. p.s. He's also found on Twitter.
@siminnouri9306
@siminnouri9306 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your hard work
@shekharchowdhary
@shekharchowdhary 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@chesikagunarathne4620
@chesikagunarathne4620 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@leilagarbouj9598
@leilagarbouj9598 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this solid research with accurate figures very useful and deep. I also liked the concrete recommendations
@TT-ft5cx
@TT-ft5cx Жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING VIDEO 🙂👍
@apricotcomputers3943
@apricotcomputers3943 3 жыл бұрын
Colonialism never ended! EXACTLY!
@patbona1963
@patbona1963 Жыл бұрын
Foreign aid is unfortunately often like Mafia protection.
@matigon550
@matigon550 Жыл бұрын
Excellent message, thank you
@maqib466
@maqib466 3 жыл бұрын
Good work
@MotherCoconut.
@MotherCoconut. 3 жыл бұрын
Compelling video. Can you provide references for the data used in the descriptions?
@ConstructiveMinds100
@ConstructiveMinds100 2 жыл бұрын
The whole internet and history books. Don't forget to open your eyes.
@tehsinkhan4864
@tehsinkhan4864 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@maliandek
@maliandek 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! brilliant!
@jermainen7846
@jermainen7846 3 жыл бұрын
Really good information. Can I ask / suggest you provide the sources of your facts and more importantly figures. Ie the 5 trill going from south to North. Thank you
@kennethyoung7564
@kennethyoung7564 2 жыл бұрын
Read his book "the divide." I do think the situation has had some improvement with technology innovation, but colonialism is a real thing, and that systemic issues are pretty entrenched. Solutions lie in the hands of the people, not governments.
@GoddessGebrina
@GoddessGebrina 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully laid out in 6 mins....
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
Well researched article but still off the right track.
@CosmoShidan
@CosmoShidan 11 ай бұрын
Mutual aid is the way to go. Local groups are banding together to combat global capitalism to realize post--scarcity.
@Bharatvarsh45
@Bharatvarsh45 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this process. How are the developing countries not reacting ? How new Power balance equation evolving ?
@gtenhave
@gtenhave 3 жыл бұрын
Are there videos like this that dive into all these topics individually and in depth? Like, wto, coups, aid etc
@nafoo33
@nafoo33 8 ай бұрын
hey I know this is an old comment, but I'd absolutely recommend reading the divide by Jason hickel (the guy in this video!) extremely eye opening and goes into each of these points in so much more depth
@TijanaRadnov
@TijanaRadnov 9 күн бұрын
Great video. We need more similar, educated content to be informed, all of us, especially ordinary people from developed countries.
@thodan1212
@thodan1212 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your video! Really well explained! My whole subject which I‘m studying makes now sense. Somehow they missed to teach these basics about postmodern colonialism...
@ByCd
@ByCd 2 жыл бұрын
So accurate
@Puehromahne
@Puehromahne 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have sources?
@Caktusdud.
@Caktusdud. 3 жыл бұрын
Yes its everywhere Eg For over 50 years has this been happening but why do we still see no change on the media Becuase it hasn't We are a racist society I myself have big plans to change it
@przemekgodlewski5497
@przemekgodlewski5497 3 жыл бұрын
He has writen a book called divide about it.Its pretty gud puts me in mind of chomskys work.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
3:30, the us contributes 30% of the funding.
@robynmcsharry9611
@robynmcsharry9611 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Plan International?
@evolvemalesafrica256
@evolvemalesafrica256 4 жыл бұрын
WoW
@rileyreezy5974
@rileyreezy5974 3 жыл бұрын
wow.
@frankiejere3994
@frankiejere3994 2 күн бұрын
Wooow 😢
@evanahmedrahat1996
@evanahmedrahat1996 3 жыл бұрын
that.s great....but what can we doi
@ramzan271
@ramzan271 2 жыл бұрын
foreign aid is a way to keep the machine going for labour and refugee intakes is the way to make a nation consumer for their goods or suppress a nation further through inflation and higher standard of living. all investment policies. refugee conventions, IMF loans and foreign aids all part of investment for rich countries.
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
Yes, but are the citizens of the western countries benefiting from this, or are the elites the ones who benefit?
@justarandomgirllol7428
@justarandomgirllol7428 Жыл бұрын
1:15 why is inequality increasing if aid is increasing? 2:10 5:06 5:29 6:03
@matthewgeary4318
@matthewgeary4318 Жыл бұрын
Why is something not been done about this?
@RaMenace888
@RaMenace888 8 ай бұрын
Because power is in the hands of the business class. It's in their interest to for things to remain this way.
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
Why would the global elites change a change a settlement that's beneficial to them?
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly even aid for self reasons is still good if it does good.
@kennethyoung7564
@kennethyoung7564 2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe creating a culture of dependency on western institutions is good? Many people in India are focusing on mobilizing the poor, and decentralizing power to focus on community autonomy.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethyoung7564 not necessarily. But it needs to be used to build up a countries ability to do for itself
@ckn56
@ckn56 2 жыл бұрын
The whole point is that it doesn't do good it's "aid" in name only. Take for instance the huge "aid" given to Israel which largely goes to purchasing US Weapons from, you guessed it, domestic American weapons manufactures. This sort of "aid" is archetypical.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@@ckn56 not necessarily always. But I tend to be very suspicious of military aid
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Of course many of these nations are being taken advantage of but this video is so biased. Life expectancy, literacy, infant mortality, income, etc. have been improving in the global south for decades. This inequality narrative is missing the big picture. However, I agree foreign aid is false advertising but I wouldn’t say I disagree with the giving itself. It serves to benefit the interest of the nation giving, to include for national security purposes. A large portion of that foreign aid is given in the form of arms and ammunition.
@ByCd
@ByCd 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment is full of lies and incongruences
@salokin3087
@salokin3087 3 жыл бұрын
Arguing that tarrifs and subsides are "progressive" is just dumb
@mitgraduate
@mitgraduate 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that the USA gives Israel $10 million a DAY?? What a waste. Think how much that money is needed here in your community!
@caldavies7824
@caldavies7824 10 ай бұрын
Yes, the north have secretly kept the vast empires and are extremely rich, while people in their own nation face extreme food and energy poverty, having to decide wether to eat or heat, have to agonize if they can afford to have a child while trying to pay vast taxes and rent, all this while being held up as people that are given a plantation and ships when we reach adult hood, the points made in this video vastly overlook a lot of things, like how the UK still gives aid to India even though they are very developed and even have their own space program or the fact that the Gulf States are wealthy beyond any factor of measuring to northern nations, or maybe look to the east where china is the new colonial influence with the one road initiative, blaming all the woes on the past gets people no where
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see a study on where all the wealth from the south actually goes. It seems from the video, that the countries in the north benefit as a whole, while I have the creeping suspicion, that it is actually the elites at the helm of the corporations and the NGOs that benefit. If you look at western countries, they too are being plundered by their elites. So it's not that westerners benefit, but that the global elites benefit. Even the ones IN the global south.
@Marquis-wj3eh
@Marquis-wj3eh 6 ай бұрын
Really interesting video
@stepanpytlik4021
@stepanpytlik4021 Жыл бұрын
How exactly is my country, Czechia, exploiting "the south"?
@calioumarx4289
@calioumarx4289 Жыл бұрын
This video never ever say east europe block so wat u talking why ask no since questions
@nafoo33
@nafoo33 8 ай бұрын
- EU member - fair international trade deals - no exploitative ex colonial governments interfering in politics
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
"Country" is too blurry a term here. Are the citizens benefiting, or are the elites benefiting? All western countries are experiencing nonexistant wage growth and skyrocketing debt.
@stepanpytlik4021
@stepanpytlik4021 4 ай бұрын
@@calioumarx4289 Czechia is central Europe.
@RayLRhodes
@RayLRhodes Жыл бұрын
Where did he get the statistic that 85% of people live in the Southern hemisphere?
@nafoo33
@nafoo33 8 ай бұрын
he never said that. he said that 85% of people stay in the Global South (also known as the developing world)
@troyhayder6986
@troyhayder6986 3 жыл бұрын
Let's give foreign aids to Africa... Good thing I'm on h WiFi plus... How can I donate???
@SwitzerlandEducation4471
@SwitzerlandEducation4471 5 ай бұрын
❤❤
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure it's fair to portray the situation as the northern countries benefiting from the global economy, as opposed to the global elites benefiting from the global economy.
@nugnug393
@nugnug393 4 ай бұрын
Don't you find it intriguing that you won't easily find a comment saying the exact oppposite to what you're saying? It's almost like the global north has more time and resources to comment under a youtube video. I have no ill intentions writing this, but I hope that it mnay have peaked your curiosity.
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
@@nugnug393 If you look at the way things are going in the global north, while they are on average richer than those in the global south, you won't find many indicators showing that the situation is improving for people there. But who has benefitted over the decades is the global elites. I hope I have peaked your curiosity.
@nugnug393
@nugnug393 4 ай бұрын
@@polybian_bicycle oh mb, I misunderstood your comment. I thought you were saying that the north wasn't profiting off the south. But they, but only the top 1%. Cheers mate 🤝🏻
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 Ай бұрын
Global North countries do benefit from the exploitation of the Global South, but yes the capitalists are the ones who become the richest off that exploitation. But by proxy, many Global North citizens are unintentionally getting benefits from extraction and exploitation of Global South like slave labour for producing Smart Phones and chocolate. I'm not saying we are bad people for having Smart Phones or chocolate, but the SYSTEM that enables that is unjust, unhealthy and unsustainable. Capitalism is cancerous. Cannot continue for long, unchallenged, if we want any sort of healthy, sustainable and just society to live in the future. For solutions we can look not just to Jason's work, but also Kate Raworth and Richard Wolff, but also deeper to Peter Joseph and The New Human Rights Movement and MIchael Tellinger with One Small Town Contributionism.
@mandyshanks2327
@mandyshanks2327 9 ай бұрын
Bulgaria is in Europe and in the Northern Hemisphere. It feels third world and the Country is very poor. Many older people in Bulgaria are on the edge of starvation, villages have died, many roads are unmade, very little sewage treatment, very little potable water and the young leave for work elsewhere. I find this rich North idea is too simplistic and very unfair to those are who have allegedly impoverished the South. Also, I know South Africa very well and the truth is that incompetence, greed and corruption of every sphere of the government and down, is what has impoverished the life of South Africans. So bleeding heart think tanks need to be honest about reality.
@nathanielibrahim3492
@nathanielibrahim3492 9 ай бұрын
I don't think the lines between global north and south are rigid, and they don't have to be to be useful: The G7, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium, nordic countries, Australia, and New Zealand are in the global north. India, Pakistan, Indonesia, all of Africa, and most of latin America is clearly in the global south. Where eastern Europe, Russia, the southern cone, even Latin America fit in is a bit more debatable, and depends on where you draw the line. In fact, it's probably quite blurry, with EU countries together exploiting the third world, but poor EU countries being exploited by rich ones. Bulgaria is absolutely richer than most countries, but no one is saying that Bulgarians live like Canadians. Also, why are you so sure that it is corruption that causes poverty, and not the other way around? You won't have to bribe an official if that official has a decent wage and there is money to set up surveillance and secure systems to prevent/deter corruption. If most people can meet their needs, they won't be forced to steal to survive. These problems are caused by poverty, and it is a vicious cycle, but the cycle started with colonialism, and is maintained by neo-colonialism.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
2:04, China is worse
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Dessal I am pretty sure committing active genocide against Muslim Uighurs and harvesting organs from prisoners who oppose the government and banning protesting against the government is wrong and way worse than whatever American did in the past present or future
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Dessal got it you are either brainwashed or a troll,
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Dessal let start with the first one, genocide against native Americans most died under the English, French and Spanish. So not true. Disease killed most, the harvesting black peoples organs is almost certainly not true unless you have a source. China has supported dictatorships as well.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Dessal it isn’t propaganda. You can see the detention camps from space. And there seems to be ethnic cleansing happening as well.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Dessal now the last part is exactly what you accuse me of doing so.
@Oldideas6476
@Oldideas6476 Жыл бұрын
How can you use there power to balance things
@royblackoncrack
@royblackoncrack 4 жыл бұрын
Money is a western construct.
@gediminasmimas7638
@gediminasmimas7638 3 жыл бұрын
So is it good or bad
@salokin3087
@salokin3087 3 жыл бұрын
"It was a deveplomental mircale" When and where? African breadbaskets collapsed after kicking out their colonialists
@edeneynatey9682
@edeneynatey9682 3 жыл бұрын
It's better to be free and hungry than to be a slave and full
@bindukopparapu2795
@bindukopparapu2795 3 жыл бұрын
They collapsed because of mass collectivisation.
@rileykaiseeker4294
@rileykaiseeker4294 3 жыл бұрын
They collapsed because of racist, marxist dictators.
@nomercynodragonforyou9688
@nomercynodragonforyou9688 2 жыл бұрын
More like because there weren't programs to uplift their Black workers in that industry
@overit537
@overit537 Жыл бұрын
TF are you talking about? Gaddafi he was developing his country until NATO/U.S. assasinated him. Nkrumah also assasinated by Western sponsorship. Sankara also assasinated by Western sponsorship. Because the Western world was like "how dare competent African leaders develop their countries we need to get rid of them before their progress destabilises our continent". It's clear you don't know anything about Africa or African history so I suggest you shut up.
@AniMageNeBy
@AniMageNeBy Жыл бұрын
5:39 That is untrue. The pareto distribution clearly demonstrates that it's a natural way that hierarchical systems function, and there is ALWAYS going to be a hierarchy in everything people, or even nature, does. You CAN NOT have a 1% of the richest that encompass 100% of the populace: that's just impossible. What the pareto curve demonstrates, is that in EVERY situation where there is a free vying for resources, 20% of a given populace will get 80% of the resources. This is true for ALL humans activities, but also is noticeable with trees/forests, rivers, and even the stars. Aka, it's close to a natural law.
@karlwheatley1244
@karlwheatley1244 Жыл бұрын
"What the pareto curve demonstrates, is that in EVERY situation where there is a free vying for resources, 20% of a given populace will get 80% of the resources." But in a civilization, there are all sorts of rules that reflect out values, so the degree of inequality is a matter of social choice--Scandinavian countries for example have much lower inequality than America does.
@AniMageNeBy
@AniMageNeBy Жыл бұрын
@@karlwheatley1244 It has been demonstrated that in every civilization the Pareto-curve is and remains observable. That even goes for communistic and socialistic countries, and yes, even the Scandinavian ones. So it's not a matter of it being the fault of capitalism, as the left always claims; ideology or moral values has no effect on the Pareto-distribution. It's not dependent on; it's a universal phenomenon, and we can see it with trees, rivers, stars, etc: those also follow the Pareto distribution. In fact, in essence it is a power law, and it's universally observable everywhere. While one can debate whether it holds the same weight as, say, the law of gravity, one would be hard-pressed to show any evidence of the argument that "our values" and "social choice" negates the law of gravity, so I think the principle of the argument doesn't fly at face value. There is no way one can curb the Pareto-distribution without also limiting - constantly, because otherwise it will naturally evolve to that distribution again - the "free vying" of a free market. So one would need a constant restraint on the wealth generated by the free exchange of goods and services, as well as curb the mechanism of veying for it with limited resources available. But then another problem arises, as the researchpaper "The Trade-Off Between Ex Ante Pareto and Ex Post Egalitarianism" demonstrates: "Let us suppose the spectator is an ex post egalitarian and prefers certain equal outcomes to unequal outcomes. That is, the spectator prefers the equal outcome (2,2) to either of the unequal outcomes (5,1) and (1,5), even though the total payoff is higher in the unequal outcomes. This implies that prospect A is preferred to prospect B in both states of the world, w1 and w2. The principle of dominance therefore yields that prospect A must be better than prospect B. However, for both worker 1 and 2, their expected payoff is 2 for prospect A and 3 for prospect B. As all workers receive a higher expected payoff from B than from A, prospect B is preferred to prospect A according to the ex ante Pareto principle. This situation shows the impossibility in evaluating distributive choices involving risk." Meaning, any society whom would forcefully try it (long term) would create risk aversion, having a lack of innovation, and become stagnant. Which is exactly happened with the USSR; it completely collapsed because of their pursuit of total equality and trying to curb the Pareto distribution, 80 years after they started their "revolution". Grantes, the scandanavian countries fair better, because they still have some capitalistic free market, and aren't really socialist, as many lefties claim. But the principle of the matter remains the same: the more egalitarian a society becomes, the more it stagnates. They have a good life, yes, but on borrowed time. Also, the very concept of egalitarianism and equal distribution as the ultimate goal is quite nonsensical, and only exclaimed by some ignorant lefties. The fact is, less inequality says nothing about your overall wealth. You are aware wealth inequality is measured by the gini-coefficient, right? Are you aware that in the top ten best scoring countries, you find great examples like Algeria and Afghanistan? Because, yes: they are very equal. Equally dirt poor, that is. The difference between a rich guy in Afghanistan and a poor guy is one of the least in the world... yet, do you feel like moving to there, as equal as it is? I doubt it.
@karlwheatley1244
@karlwheatley1244 Жыл бұрын
@@AniMageNeBy "It has been demonstrated that in every civilization the Pareto-curve is and remains observable. " For SOME variables, but not others. Also, it's not always 20-80 for different variables, it often varies on either side of that mark. So the Pareto principle is a vast overgeneralization. "There is no way one can curb the Pareto-distribution without also limiting - constantly," Wonderful, we WANT to limit wealth inequality and income inequality because they are nasty societal toxins that increase a vast array of social dysfunctions plus political corruption. It is simply impossible to have a healthy society with levels of wealth/income inequality as high as those found in the US. As for your examples, you've cherry-picked and apples vs. oranges comparison or rich vs. poor countries. What if we compare OECD nations? There we find the highest Gini coefficients AND the highest S90/S10 income decile share are Chile, Turkey, Mexico, and the US--countries with a lot of social dysfunction and political turmoil/corruption. The lowest on the list are Slovenia, Norway, Iceland, Denmark, Czech Republic, Finland, Slovak Republic, Belgium and Sweden. Guess which countries consistently score among the very happiest in the world? Those Nordic countries with low inequality. Guess which countries consistently score as having the highest degree of freedom and democracy? Those Nordic countries with low inequality. As for the hypothetical rational man decision example from some econ article, those are notoriously off-base. First, rational economic man been disproven--that's really not how people make decisions, and certainly not just with two variables in mind. Second, empirical research shows the reverse is true, you get more innovation in countries with low inequality and high economic security. Fear and insecurity spawned by inequality and a weak social safety net stifle innovation, which helps explain why, on a per capita basis, the US now ranks as pretty mediocre on scientific innovation for a wealthy country. Sadly, a lot of the "innovations" we do have seem centered on how to make the rich richer and others poorer and less secure. Take care.
@AniMageNeBy
@AniMageNeBy Жыл бұрын
@@karlwheatley1244 "Wonderful, we WANT to limit wealth inequality and income inequality because they are nasty societal toxins" Must be why socialist and communist countries always perform so well. ;-) I never understand people arguing for this, while, time and again, it is shown socialist countries are WORSE of than capitalistic ones. From the USSR to Mao's China to, as latest example, the socialist paradise of Venezuela: they all failed miserably. Yet, those clear examples that history is rife with, never seems to pause the leftists. Cherry picked? My friend, it was you whom made a plead for equality and a lesser gap between the rich and poor. My point was, that that says nothing and isn't a goal on istelf, since everyone can be equally dirt poor - that's why Afghanistan is damn equal. Equal in poverty. Which proves "equality" isn't really the issue, but overall richness is, and then you'll note that capitalistic countries outperform socialist ones, every time. That corruption isn't beneficial to a countries' economy is true, but has no bearing on the subject: socialist countries often are corrupt too. Idem with your claim that economic security is beneficial. However, there is no economic security in a socialist country, because socialism is a political and economic system in which property and the means of production are owned in common, typically controlled by the state or government. Socialism is based on the idea that common or public ownership of resources and means of production leads to a more equal society. And it sort of does, because everyone gets poorer, so the gini-coeficient gets lower, indeed. But it doesn't elevate your populace out of poverty, and claiming it has economic security, while one has to compete with outer businesses and countries, is false. That has shown to be completely faulty. It doesn't work, and it never has. Your claim that more equality leads to more innovation - contrary to the researchpaper - which you conveniently dismissed, of course -is not substantiated by facts. According to CompTIA, in 2022, the US tech market will represent 33% of the global market share - or approximately $1.8 trillion. The European technology industry is a dwarf in comparison to America's FAMANGs- - Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Google and Netflix. In almost every metric of innovation, the pales in comparison to the US. Another hot-bed of innovation now is China, since the death of Mao, when they ditched communism (at least de facto, though they still pay lipservice to it). China became largely capitalistic, and yes, that lead to more inequality *but it also* lead to a higher medium income for ALL citizens, compared to during communist times. And that's the point I'm making: what counts is the average wealth and living conditions of the populace, NOT whether you have billionaires in it that are far richer than the rest. Billionaires are the result of capitalism, but the same capitalism also makes everyone richer. There is no two ways about it: being equal says nothing about how good people have it, since you can be perfectly equal when everyone is dirt poor. At least you should acknowledge this undeniable fact.
@chrishoman4890
@chrishoman4890 3 жыл бұрын
almost had me then u started speaking.
@vancecrow3909
@vancecrow3909 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but a little biased in failing to criticize, or even mention, how the behavior of the South contributes to global inequality. If we accept the notion; the North is bad the South is an innocent victim, we are doomed to continue the unfair cycle this clip is trying to address. .
@sindhusadineni
@sindhusadineni 3 жыл бұрын
By all means, please enlighten us to these "behaviors"
@Caktusdud.
@Caktusdud. 3 жыл бұрын
It does a bit but it can be justified by our intervention Somalia has pirates so they can survive it's in the south global economy so it's a poor/developing country
@khalimblank
@khalimblank 3 жыл бұрын
These countries are corrupt because Western powers actively oppose any democratic governments or powers that arise within them. There have been many instances of enlightened nationalist southern leaders who are undermined or outright removed. This creates a power vacuum for corrupt leaders who serve the western agenda to enter. The west creates the conditions for corruption and then blames the Countries themselves for it. Its awful really.
@Caktusdud.
@Caktusdud. 3 жыл бұрын
@@khalimblank so basically the west majes these countries corrupt to make an excuse to be shit to them
@dounialani7056
@dounialani7056 3 жыл бұрын
Read his book the divide I’m sure you’ll have a change a heart.
@jonathanplanet
@jonathanplanet Жыл бұрын
You need to talk to people like Joe Rogan, jordan Peterson and others who will give you a platform to talk and be listened
@nugnug393
@nugnug393 4 ай бұрын
Peterson wouldn't dare have someone educated than him on his platform. Kinda like Ben Shapiro only debating 17 year olds.
@hardware199
@hardware199 7 ай бұрын
2:43 This is just wrong. This guy doesn`t know what he`s talking about.
@cheruzaleming
@cheruzaleming 6 ай бұрын
Kindly explain why...
@polybian_bicycle
@polybian_bicycle 4 ай бұрын
​@@cheruzaleming No idea what they had in mind, but one explanation could be that the poor countries mainly provide resources, which are low in the value chain, where as richer countries use these resources to turn them into more valued commodities. So most of the value is added in the refinement of resources. But still, the resources lie at the bottom of the value chain, so it's a bit of a poor argument.
@noahwilliams8996
@noahwilliams8996 3 ай бұрын
Prove it.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 3 жыл бұрын
Neo colonialism is stupid. Using resources for cheaper labor is not necessarily bad. It creates jobs and it is better than no jobs.
@karlwheatley1244
@karlwheatley1244 Жыл бұрын
"Neo colonialism is stupid. Using resources for cheaper labor is not necessarily bad. It creates jobs and it is better than no jobs." The point is that those countries in the global south would be richer, have better jobs, and just overall be better off if the US and other global north countries hadn't exploited them.
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 Жыл бұрын
@@karlwheatley1244 somewhat true. Although I suspect with chronic corruption, bad governance and weak institutions I doubt any of these countries are in a place for success.
@karlwheatley1244
@karlwheatley1244 Жыл бұрын
@@seanhartnett79 Gee, and why do you think they have weak governance and chronic corruption--and guess who has been meddling in their affairs for centuries?
@seanhartnett79
@seanhartnett79 Жыл бұрын
@@karlwheatley1244 some of it is the US. A lot of it is the British, French and other European colonial empires.
@MountH212
@MountH212 Жыл бұрын
@@seanhartnett79 Only the leaders you put through coups
@alexjohnson9200
@alexjohnson9200 Жыл бұрын
Traitors are disgusting.
@kanchhediachamaar9289
@kanchhediachamaar9289 11 ай бұрын
The interests of the rich in poor countries, such as billionaires in China and India, are aligned with those of the Global North.
@aphroditewhy442
@aphroditewhy442 2 ай бұрын
Then the interest of the rich in every country is to blame? so we have to remove all the rich people in the world? starting from the richest in your family?
@kanchhediachamaar9289
@kanchhediachamaar9289 2 ай бұрын
@@aphroditewhy442 If you would please read my comment, you would find that I simply said that the interests of the rich in China and India are aligned with those of the Global North. I said nothing about blaming the rich, or removing the rich. But I can do nothing if you are intent on removing the rich in your family. I am sure the police will find you.
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