Herman Li explains the ZP Theart situation.

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Toshineko4270

Toshineko4270

6 ай бұрын

Herman Li from DragonForce has been asked about ZP Theart leaving the band. He explains the situation more in his livestream.

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@haraldeptor9338
@haraldeptor9338 5 ай бұрын
ZP in dragonforce was the best music every made
@Leodachef1
@Leodachef1 5 ай бұрын
I still listen to their old songs regulary. They had a melodic style and symphony, very unique and unmatched.
@haraldeptor9338
@haraldeptor9338 5 ай бұрын
Me too and I agree!@@Leodachef1
@italo-r1n
@italo-r1n 4 ай бұрын
I too, the musics of Dragonforce with Marc is great, very great. But the musics with ZP in my opinion are another level
@user-ku6pp1hl6p
@user-ku6pp1hl6p 3 ай бұрын
Nah. Their music with Marc is their best
@tyreekmurillo4524
@tyreekmurillo4524 2 ай бұрын
my favorite zp era songs are fields of despair, disciples of babylon, and heart of a dragon
@burymeband5410
@burymeband5410 2 ай бұрын
Id love for DF to release an album with both Marc AND ZP on vocals. Would be incredible.
@ObviouslyKieran
@ObviouslyKieran 6 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I never thought he'd actually address it, even cooler that he's open to a possible reunion.
@maxwellleatherman
@maxwellleatherman 5 ай бұрын
@@Ben.B Where does this info come from? Is there an interview/article or something?
@eta3580
@eta3580 5 ай бұрын
And i waiting ZP return again Love this band and his voice
@YoursTrulyThe1Pony
@YoursTrulyThe1Pony 5 ай бұрын
Me too I'd love at least a reunion with ZP, Fred, Adrian, Dave, and Vadim
@GenericDragonForceFan
@GenericDragonForceFan 4 ай бұрын
@@YoursTrulyThe1Pony I mean if not Vadim, at least Shaz
@JordanHiscott
@JordanHiscott Ай бұрын
To have Marc and ZP on a song would be a dream… sounds possible to I reckon 2025
@SHORYU616
@SHORYU616 2 ай бұрын
Damnit Herman I need more context than that. It has always killed me to know why my favorite singer of all time left my favorite band of all time! "Insurmountable musical differences" isn't enough lol I would love to hear the full story. I understand it may be some ugly memories for these guys, but as a fan I'd love to know. Vadim explained a bit more in his "Why I left Dragonforce" vlog and I'd to hear everyone else's version. We need a big production Dragonforce documentary Pronto! Lol !
@DreamQueenScream
@DreamQueenScream 2 ай бұрын
ZP Theart is harder to find than Carmen San Diego these days! But this sure does give me a slight hope for the future of a possible reunion tour one day ❤
@FalconFox100
@FalconFox100 3 ай бұрын
You can rag on ZP all you want but he never lip-synced and used playback unlike Marc
@notimeleft1
@notimeleft1 Күн бұрын
I would love to see a collab with ZP and dragonforce. Especially on tour, have both him and Marc perform classics together like fury of the storm, through the fire and flames, and more lol.
@Toshineko
@Toshineko Күн бұрын
That would be super cool to see for sure
@MiskonceptioN
@MiskonceptioN Ай бұрын
If anyone can make it happen, it's Rich Smith. He is/was the drummer for I Am I (ZP's band) and was the drummer for Marc's solo album. I reckon he's got a good enough rapport with the two singers to at least suggest the idea of some sort of collaboration
@jedicouncil66
@jedicouncil66 4 күн бұрын
This was beautifully said. I also really want Vadim back as well.
@BloosML
@BloosML 5 ай бұрын
Hay pocas cosas que me hicieron feliz de verdad en esta vida. Este clip es una de ellas.
@thaddeusyoung6061
@thaddeusyoung6061 4 ай бұрын
I'm gonna give my 2 cents on the Hudson v. Theart debate and if ZP would be open for collaboration or reunion with DF. For Hudson v. Theart, Marc was everything DF needed in a singer. Consistency and the ability to perform live. After ZP's voice began to fail from smoking, drinking, and a refusal to train his vocal cords, they had to downtune. Marc, while very rough in the beginning (one of the first tours he was in was one of the worst in dragonforce history, some hard to find accounts of the tour exist, but I can't find them, and all video has been removed by Herman.) Marc eventually got his legs and became a worthy frontman. But, Marcs voice doesn't particularly fit DragonForce's style of metal like a glove, very apparent with his solo album Starbound Stories, which really fits how he sings. And do I think ZP would agree to a reunion or collab with DF? Plausible, but VERY unlikely, the very reason he left was because he started to resent the music he and the band wrote, thinking it was all too samey, but maybe, he could have changed his perspective following his departure from Skid Row, who knows right?
@Toshineko
@Toshineko 4 ай бұрын
That's a very good point.
@cunt5575
@cunt5575 13 күн бұрын
Nahh ive seen dragonforce live up front 3 times. Marc sucks.
@maftykyle7398
@maftykyle7398 Ай бұрын
although ZP is getting old and condition not as good as early days, but his voice is still remarkable and beautiful
@jreynosoxtrm2004
@jreynosoxtrm2004 5 ай бұрын
yeah I remember watching that stream and it kinda still sucks to hear that ZP left dragonforce long time ago. (also thats me the "new subscriber" lol)
@darkxuxa
@darkxuxa 5 ай бұрын
He didn’t say anything we didn’t already know. They will never get into the real details of it because it’s personal. What’s more of a shocker is that he said they would be open to collaborating with him again in some means. THAT is incredible.
@REFLEXLWD
@REFLEXLWD 6 ай бұрын
He's basically telling us that ZP changed throughout the years. He parted ways with multiple bands and there's obviously a reason for it.. I assume he's really hard to work with in the long run.
@falloutfan6649
@falloutfan6649 2 ай бұрын
The former members of ZP’s I Am I project said he was extremely difficult to work with. Plus Skid Row kicked him out and never even recorded an album with him he basically was just a touring vocalist then they cut him with seemingly no explanation
@stellarcubicbeam7760
@stellarcubicbeam7760 21 күн бұрын
Maybe do a duet with Sue Metal and ZP with original Dragonforce members playing? Fury of the Storm.
@ryanmcdaniel8574
@ryanmcdaniel8574 5 күн бұрын
They improved with marc
@geovani60624
@geovani60624 3 ай бұрын
what situation? it hints to the implication like something happened and he is adressing it?
@danielseaburg9763
@danielseaburg9763 3 ай бұрын
ZP himself said ''musical differences'' - so i'm assuming he wanted to move onto maybe more progressive than just speed. (kinda like a Dream Thetre vibe) but Sam and Herman wanted to keep what was working. Which makes sense.
@geovani60624
@geovani60624 3 ай бұрын
@@danielseaburg9763 this was like 10 years ago, why "address" it now? I was thinking of maybe he said something new but zp has like no online presence
@Kimitri
@Kimitri 4 ай бұрын
Someone can tell me what was happened with ZP?
@Toshineko
@Toshineko 4 ай бұрын
Basically, ZP had a different musical opinion of DragonForce, and thought that their music were probably too samey or not original anymore. And so, he quit to form his own band.
@fenderorgibson9233
@fenderorgibson9233 26 күн бұрын
Where is ZP now? I couldn't find any of his update last 2 years
@Toshineko
@Toshineko 26 күн бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. ZP himself hasn't provided any updates himself ever since he was on his I am I band.
@fenderorgibson9233
@fenderorgibson9233 26 күн бұрын
He could be died or something because no one get any updates about him. If anyone can get the info from his band member I think it would be great to post on social media. One of the best singer that I ever listened
@Komintepanatbra
@Komintepanatbra 10 күн бұрын
@@Toshineko He was touring with Skid Row until Erik Grönwall took over, although he parted ways with them too a while back. Haven't seen or heard anything since.
@NoFutureZine
@NoFutureZine Ай бұрын
Marc is great but ZP is a virtuoso
@sensacionsombria5125
@sensacionsombria5125 4 ай бұрын
now explain the Vadim situation
@herdavaian
@herdavaian 4 ай бұрын
Vadim is Christian Dragonforce is Power Metal Band
@geovani60624
@geovani60624 3 ай бұрын
@@herdavaian that was never a problem before
@nerfherder4444
@nerfherder4444 3 ай бұрын
I saw a video Vadim posted on his Facebook some years ago, where he addressed it. The main issue was he felt like the music business as a whole was going under, and that he wasn't getting paid enough to keep touring since he's a recent father. On top of that (now there is some assumption here) the people who make money off of streams and music sales are the songwriters, and Sam is pretty much the sole writer of the band, which would leave Vadim little to nothing from the band income. The money stuff on top of him feeling conflict being a dad and a hardcore Christian now amongst a band of "non-believers" led him to leave the band, since he felt out of place along with the financial struggle.
@geovani60624
@geovani60624 3 ай бұрын
@@nerfherder4444 makes sense, good for him
@falloutfan6649
@falloutfan6649 2 ай бұрын
@@nerfherder4444it’s also worth noting Vadim said he felt like his input on music was completely ignored by the rest of the band and that he felt like they really didn’t care about him coming back to work after sitting out the Reaching Into Infinity cycle
@Benjawin6671
@Benjawin6671 5 ай бұрын
Did he just... hint at ZP possibly returning in some fashion??? I really hope so.
@oshikuru09
@oshikuru09 3 ай бұрын
I was curious on google the other day and the most common thing was him not feeling like Dragonforces vocals were respected. Which is fair really, at the time we just wanted fun guitar noises and someone screaming something about "FAR AWAY"
@demayoexperience6646
@demayoexperience6646 3 ай бұрын
DF albums were better with ZP
@diegoalarcon2758
@diegoalarcon2758 Ай бұрын
Marc es mil veces mejor. Quedate en casa ZP, no vuelvas a DF
@trick3511
@trick3511 2 ай бұрын
honestly, i like zp more at studio, but live he is full of shit, so my conclusion is: marc wins live, but zp wins at the studio
@GuillermoSmyser
@GuillermoSmyser 5 ай бұрын
Marc is the best thing to happen to the band other than the success of TTFAF video and then Guitar Hero. Marc is a professional, he takes care of his voice. They haven't had to down tune the guitars for him and live he sounds like the album. I prefer the sound of his voice as well, but even leaving that out, Marc is great.
@TerminatorZXY
@TerminatorZXY 5 ай бұрын
Marc is not any more professional and he doesn't really take care of his voice the way you think he does. But yes, they haven't had to down tune the guitars for him live, they instead started using playback for Marc which is much worse lol. ZP was better both live and in studio.
@FalconFox100
@FalconFox100 4 ай бұрын
You know Marc has been lipsyncing since 2014, right?
@FurbyParade226
@FurbyParade226 4 ай бұрын
Big no. Marc, up to the point he joined DF, was some guy that sang at a few bar gigs, & was chosen simply because he was local. Which makes the whole 'worldwide audition' in 2009-2010 completely redundant. ZP was featured in Metal Hammer. He had the chops & the backing. Marc sounds like he's struggling in just about every note he hits. There's a video of Soldiers of the Wasteland live I watched & he couldn't hit any of the notes. At all. Marc's harsh vocals though are killer. His cleans hurt my ears though.
@ghostface9171
@ghostface9171 4 ай бұрын
Marc speaks during solos that shit is cool if done right but he does it annoyingly
@DannysHauntedJourney
@DannysHauntedJourney 4 ай бұрын
Marc has not been lip syncing. There's a video of the most recent tour where he misses his cue to go back after the Soldiers solos. No vocals play, and he comes in when he genuinely sings. You can even hear the backing vocals of Alicia and Billy live with no Marc. 100% no lip syncing. Can't speak for everything else with certainty, but Marc has grown so much over the years, the man has total control of his voice. If you're a true professional, you can nail it every time.
@MaverickMustaine
@MaverickMustaine 4 ай бұрын
No thank you ZP. Marc is by far superior
@Toshineko
@Toshineko 4 ай бұрын
Understandable.
@garicito69
@garicito69 3 ай бұрын
Hahahaha no, Although your opinion is respected, the reality is that zp in terms of voice and essence was a unique thing and not. ZP was superior and a fan who has been with them since 2008 can tell you.
@TallerVRS
@TallerVRS 22 күн бұрын
Obvious rage bait, there's not 1 DF fan who prefers Marc over ZP
@99Gara99
@99Gara99 26 күн бұрын
We can't stand you other vocalist, let's be honest
@raygus999
@raygus999 Ай бұрын
was real great with ZP in the band, and I really thought you never could replace him and keep the sound. But you did and Marc Hudson is just GREAT in his role. I sometimes listen to ZP's new band I_AM_I. Really good. Not Dragonforce good, but still real good.
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