Hermitcraft Season 8 Recap: Short & Experimental

Your questions answered about Hermitcraft Season 8!
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Hermitcraft Season 8, and Xisuma's plans for Hermitcraft Season 9. What was the best Hermitcraft season, and which was the least favorite or worst season? The animations by th3pooka are mentioned, and whether the storytelling is forced or natural within Hermitcraft. Cameo by docm77 in the chat, talking about his experiences with Hermitcraft Season 8.
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Let's talk about Hermitcraft Season 8!
0:30 Poll Results: Was Hermitcraft 8 your favourite season?
0:40 Least favourite Hermitcraft season
2:01 Working with a Minecraft build team
3:38 The thing that really hurt me this season...
6:18 I don't want to be perceived this way...
6:37 Rather than the negative, look at the positive!
7:51 I stepped outside of my comfort zone
8:58 What was my favourite Hermitcraft season, and why?
9:47 Short season: Was that always the plan?
10:50 Was the big moon planned before season 8?
10:58 Hermits uploaded less this season?
11:15 Being a part of big storylines
11:57 Hermitcraft Season 8 was a lesson for me
13:25 Short season: What happened to resetting chunks?
14:23 Need to shout out Rendog and Docm77 for this season!
14:48 Stoneblock is a knee-jerk reaction
15:17 Forced or Natural Roleplay
15:42 Standing still, or trying new things?
17:17 Forced or Natural Storytelling
18:28 Favourite Hermit Build in Season 8
18:52 It was an experimental season
19:27 Custom textures - what worked, what didn't work
21:46 Proximity Mod (Simple Voice Chat) & Adaptive Render Distance
23:20 Xisuma's plans for Hermitcraft Season 9
23:56 Look to the future!
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[@coolcatcartoons]

I think that the Hermits need to find the perfect balance between scripted and more normal gameplay. I think Season 6 and 7 were great examples of this: Some great shenanigans and storylines which felt very natural and still left plenty of times for great builds, interactions, etc.

[@eg_manifest510]

the more natural storytelling is better, because it makes the series more interesting while still feeling like friendly shenanigans that happen all the time normally

[@FlourishPorridge]

I think Hermits can go as far as they like to tell a story, but I think the story should feel natural and should be told because it's a good story and because it fits. Just because you can do it doesn't necessarily mean that you should do it. Some of the more heavy roleplay and scripted stuff may have felt disorienting but it was good at surplying variety to the season. If "the main storyline" this season was just another re-hash of the civil war (as the mycelium resistance vs HEP plot kinda was) then Hermitcraft would be more stale and boring. Instead we have Derpcoin, the Hermatrix, and big moon storylines which are all experimental, fresh and new. I think these sorts of storylines shouldn't be avoided completely in the future just because they were fairly jankily executed the first time around.

[@Edoorardo]

Yeah, Im ok with them role-playing, but this season felt too scripted compared to previous seasons

[@ARCANODESINE]

@@FlourishPorridge tbh i felt like those were a bit too much

[@jebkerman7199]

@@FlourishPorridge Honestly I felt that the hermatrix storyline was incredibly well executed and the finale felt like something out of a real sci-fi show and I really liked that and I was perfectly fine with the RP. I mean if some of the hermits like doing that they should keep doing what they enjoy not to mention that we really need more good sci-fi nowadays as most of the larger corperations keep pumping out nothing but garbage

[@slapstickers]

If you dislike roleplaying dont feel pressured to do it. I both enjoy hermits that do it and hermits that don't, and it definitely became too much to handle this season. My favorite hermit is Etho and he doesnt even touch roleplaying at all so I think just do what you're most comfortable with X :)

[@phamanhtai2824]

same with Tinfoilchef, I really like his content cuz it's relaxing, not as fast paced as the other hermits (their content is nice too but sometimes gotta change things a bit)

[@casguldentops984]

Same, that's also why I enjoy Mumbo a lot. It seems like he's not reallhy invested in the lore but then one day he just decides to create a cult for funsies, or when he became CEO of boatem he only used it to sometimes mess sime things up. But he functions perfectly fine outside the lore.

[@h3nder]

>Etho rp'd half of half season with the Turf war.

[@dee2007]

Learning what you don’t like is Important and helps you better define what you do enjoy and what you do well. You do you xisuma !! I love the diverse gameplay of all the hermits… it’s an extraordinary community!

[@collinhartman9591]

I didn’t love X’s season 8 quite as much, because it just didn’t feel quite right to me. Now I know it was because it just wasn’t him

[@alexmilo]

My “issue” with S8 was how the Hermits never really “lived” in their bases as much as they did in previous seasons. Most of them only just finished their bases and some didn’t even. I really loved the builds this season and it’s a shame to not see them being used and lived in to their full extend. Just seems a bit pointless to spend months building a home and then not live in it. The ending was absolutely spectacular though.

[@PixlPlayer]

I agree all the big bases felt like empty decorations more than homes

[@frostyskeletons8950]

I was so disappointed to say goodbye to the bases right when it felt the season was getting into its swing. I wanted to see Midnight Alley in its glory, The Factory Tour, The Horse Race, etc. so much potential went unused it felt like

[@oklol7799]

Bingo!

[@oklol7799]

@@frostyskeletons8950 i completely agree

[@Tim_The_Dim]

@@frostyskeletons8950 yea, I was looking forward to trade wars between all the factions and seeing which group got the most money

[@BigLesbian]

My problem with season 8 was that it felt that everyone was still burnt out from the last season. I really hope they take a proper break between seasons this time!!!

[@dominikzajkowski8242]

That's exactly what I was thinking

[@urbanfrog]

took my words straight from my mouth, it felt like a lot of the "big" hermits decided to start project that had way to big of a scope and those project dragged on for so long in season 7 that it was clear that they needed a very long break, which they just didn't give themseleves. my hope for season 9 is that it will be more "small", instand of everyone doing a giant build of their own, maybe invest more in the small stuff, and create minigames or just anything original that just shows creativity and fun! (altough i have to say that the decision to make the main island so small in this season and forcing everyone to interact with eachother more was probably the biggest saving grace of this season and i highly hope that they will continue doing that in future seasons)

[@killerkitten7534]

Exactly my thought. I was shocked how fast season 8 started after season 7 ended. Felt like they barely got a break before the next season started. Then they just got burnt out because there wasn’t enough new stuff to do. Mostly because of the update delay, but still.

[@cokie4760]

@@killerkitten7534 yeah, same. season 8 started before i even realized there was a new one out.

[@Booklat1]

Big Word here. Everything that went wrong with S8 were the things that were going wrong since 7 (maybe even 6) but worse 6 was a huge season, followed by another season almost instantly. 7 must've been hard for hermits because it started real slow but then minecraft got the huge 1.16 update. I feel that with season 8 they had to really work hard to milk content out of a game that they were probably getting tired of (not just of the game, but you know, being on the same loop over and over again)

[@bellzaroo]

to be completely honest, i don’t mind whether there’s roleplay/storylines or not. just as long as we still get moments of just unplanned goofiness between the hermits. i’m here for all of it.

[@derrickstorm6976]

Love the irony, that roleplay by its nature doesn't have anything unplanned, or improvised, as to put it

[@joelcarterramadge183]

I would rather less role play too. Unless it was purposely sarcastic.

[@kyleswenson8815]

Yeah full blown preplanned storylines I feel is a bit much for Hermitcraft, part of the appeal to me at least is just the feeling of friends having fun. Spur of the moment things can turn into great rp but going full on rpg mode doesn't feel right to me, and this is even coming from a guy who plays dnd for fun. It just doesn't feel right for Hermitcraft

[@CyclesAreSingularities]

i feel like boatem did a great job! the meetings we're awesome! i feel like the voice mod helps with unplanned RP

agree. best parts in general was people playing together

[@chrisashwin8548]

I enjoyed the colabs between the hermits. However the downside of this was, when you then go to watch another hermit video, you would find you have already seen most the content already.

[@mariaelisabethcole3163]

Yes, we watched a lot less different hermits this season actually because of this! Good point! 😊

[@jameslangley5724]

Especially with boatem, I felt like I was watching the same video 5 times every week, maybe it would have been better if they'd have done a joint video for the collabs or agree on one person to post it

[@alittleofsomething]

There are some things the boatem crew for example was posting and cutting differently. For example, if you just watched Grian's finale, you'd never know why he had half a heart.

[@pyrohawkrthedrunkinaussy9882]

This is the reason i only watch 3 hermits. Then at the end of the season ill go back thru other hermits channels to see what they have done.

[@ImJBlu]

Yeah for the boatem crew I would watch a meeting once and then skip it in the remaining videos

[@WalleyeGuy4]

I personally prefer the raw, unchanged personalities of the hermits (which is why I watch) and the Role-Play kinda removed that so I'm in the same boat on the role play aspect.

[@Mr_Reaps25]

I liked how the boatem hole did it, they just messed around with the moon, blow it up, cult, ext. It is something they would do

[@smthidkman]

I love the way they make the roleplay look like not even scripted like how when the blocks levitate they were like "ah well, the blocks to fly now"

[@bdbhai9308]

In season 8 was the best one

[@madlad5675]

I think the issue with season 8 is that instead of feeling natural like a lot of the story lines from s7 it felt very forced and unnatural

[@tayloradams3993]

I enjoy it when the characters come from skits, like Grian and Scar's characters in the Mycellium Resistance. They were more like half characters, half the real people behind them, and it was great.

[@judiinpe]

I like better storylines that just kinda appear as the season goes, like season 6 demise, the myselium war on season 7, or the tree war between Mumbo and Grian at the start of season 8 than planned storylines like the moon getting bigger. Also something I really enjoy from hermitcraft is the fact that it is mostly vanilla Minecraft, with only some “quality of life” and commodity changes like the proximity chat mod, the rain thing, or the multiplayer sleep, changes that don’t heavily change the game, and help hermits both in game, and with creating content, unlike most smps and letsplays currently. I really hope that doesn’t change in the future

[@spacenoodles5570]

Yea I agree that unscripted storylines are much more valuable

[@aa-tx7th]

agreed. the massive mods, ads, and build team garbage should have never happened

[@plasma2808]

What the heck???? I forgot all about demise. I can’t believe that was 2 seasons ago

[@imrlyunoriginal]

Yeah, when the storylines are clearly manufactured it just feels a lot less sincere to me

[@coyotesvods3841]

Yeah. I enjoyed the hat mod as well at first because it was clear the hermits were having a lot of fun, but really that's also the most important part of Hermitcraft to me - that it's really just friends having fun. Stuff like the civil war or the mycelium war had that energy of just friends having fun with it (same with the hippie/time travel thing in season six even though that was definitely more scripted) and things just evolving from interactions, whereas stuff like the moon thing almost felt like some people were "forced" to address The Moon every episode and stop their builds and stories to do moon things. There were still some fun moon storyline moments, it just felt a bit more forced and a little less of the Hermitcraft I'd started watching for.

[@-ElysianEcho-]

I tend to like the stories that emerge better than the ones that are created, the mycelium vs grass stuff for example, it seemed to just be friends messing with eachother and having fun

[@staccatopeony]

I felt towards the end, the turf war felt a tad forced, like they were trying to recreate the original civil war. I think hermits work best when they're just having fun and don't purposefully try to recreate what they've done before

[@truthhunterhawk3932]

Do you guys think that Gem and Pearl enjoyed the season? Give me your thoughts.

[@-ElysianEcho-]

@@staccatopeony agreed, that’s actually when i sorta tuned out of it

[@krazyoldkatlady192]

I agree, I don’t like stories on an smp that are overly developed in advance

[@krazyoldkatlady192]

You could also be on the peripheral of someone else’s story. For example, you make a cameo or have a small part in their story rather than shouldering an entire story yourself.

[@bethg7026]

I’m not into the storylines myself, especially when they get really elaborate. I like just watching you guys make amazingly creative builds, lag out the server with redstone, collab with each other, and have fun with pranks and mini games.

[@MollymaukT]

I think Grian's wars are the perfect balance between having a storyline and just having the players being themselves and goofing around in the server (and doing fantastic builds all the while)

[@cuencaguy9799]

100% this. Some of it is entertaining, but I found it all a bit much. The moon storyline had some interesting parts, but other than getting a real ending to the season (instead of everything just petering out), it got tiresome and a bit much. I felt that it detracted from what I enjoy about Minecraft and Hermitcraft...all the things you mention.

[@followingsimon1344]

I loved 7 but I also think the scale of building in 8 was an amazing thing to watch and see. So many ideas and just wonderful all around to watch. Being a older guy I also really liked the derp coin concept and the staking element. The thought process of bringing micro transactions and crypto to a head was a great concept and totally agree with the comment about the success being evident in the outrage it drove. Hopefully that can be illuminated by the other hermits with their communities. Lastly, I watched a lot of you go out of your comfort zone this season and it was cool to see. Certainly has inspired me to do a little more building a decoration of my red stone contraptions. All around a solid season and I wish it had been longer but I get it. I sort of thought you would be moving the world to 1.18 and keeping it moving forward. For a while I though the moon would be responsible for pulling the landscape up and forming the new mountains but overall I understand why it ended. 1.18 is a completely new thing. I wiped my overworld to not have to deal with blended terain either.

[@Pyromanicat]

i completely agree

[@jcmaloney2124]

I'm relieved to hear this. The main reason I started watching most of the hermits was for the more natural and relaxed style of Minecraft gameplay and while roleplaying can be fun it's just not why I'm here

[@jcmaloney2124]

The style of competition and stoylines like Tango's decked out or Cub's golf course are more of what I strive to see in a multiplayer let's play

[@fish6926]

@@jcmaloney2124 decked out and elytra course is nice too

[@Sbeev]

I can relate to the whole not really wanting to do a storyline thing. I just like building stuff and that pretty much doesn't leave any room in my brain to figure out how to tie it into a storyline.

[@TheK1t3]

Same. Not everything is for everyone. X doesn't have to create his own storyline if he doesn't want to. And he can always join or collab with the other hermits when he feels like it.

[@polelot5824]

I feel that with the short season, everyone was still in the base building phase by the end of it, compared to longer seasons where they eventually branch out and work on other projects and focus on interactions. The closeness of the bases was nice, especially with the northeast bunch regularly interacting and 'provoking' each other. By far the best part of the season was the introduction of Prox chat. One of the best aspects of hermitrcaft is seeing all these great personalities interact and prox chat just allows that to be smoother and more spontaneous compared to text chat or having to hop in discord calls.

[@ScooterinAB]

I wonder if this is a consequence of base building. This is something I don't like about a lot of KZbinrs and bases; they have to be this massive impressive build that just ends up being an empty room full of chests. I liked what BDubs did I think last season where he just had a small house for a while and instead went onto to do other projects, You can still have the big builds and you have to get established before you can do them, but I feel like so much of the seasons focus on this giant base build that takes up a lot of time instead of moving on to other projects.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

It was the worst season because it was too short. They could have waited until episode 60

[@ScooterinAB]

@@oscarosullivan4513 That would have made it the worst season though because it would have dragged on. People were clearly burned out from the quick turn around between seasons and because the caves update the season was based around didn't come out. Making 60 episodes of something you don't want to make makes it worse than trying to be excited about 30.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@ScooterinAB Fine

[@asteroid435]

i just really want the proximity mod to stay, that made interactions really fun

[@duggie_4tw]

I’m pretty sure it’s staying. It was in season 7 and carried into season 8, so I don’t see why they would change that

[@swisscheese174]

I prefer the natural gameplay as opposed to scripted role play. Do what you feel comfortable doing, not just what the other hermits are doing. I really love it when you just be you! Best of luck for next season!

[@lachlanokeefe8020]

same. I loved season 5 because I felt like it was far more natural than anything after that. I think part of that was Grain, a massive and infuential channel, joining with his own love of planned/semi-planned stories. It felt like it meshed better in season 6 and 7 than 8, but I still didn't enjoy it as much as the raw, funny, awesome, unplanned interactions before it.

[@CB-lw7ty]

I feel like the problem with "YT Minecraft you have to do a role play" comes from that fallacy of "Minecraft is for kids" and so it's easy as a Minecraft creator to get stuck into that mentality of engaging kids, talking in silly voices, doing storylines, scripted events etc. Without realising that obviously alot of kids play Minecraft as a starting game...but its also 10 years old now and so alot of people in Minecraft now are 25+ who are more interested in the technical things within the game, building styles etc who want more grown up content as well.

[@lachlanokeefe8020]

@@CB-lw7ty yeah! I loved just watching the awesome contraptions farms, etc that hermits would come up with, and I've started watching less and less with the roleplaying stuff. I'd rather have the season 4/5, or 2/3 feeling any day.

[@CB-lw7ty]

@@lachlanokeefe8020 Im a mix of both, I don't mind the roleplaying when it feels like a joke that has just escalated (even though im very aware its a scripted thing) but that feels more natural atleast with 2/3 people interacting. For me the worst of the roleplaying is when you have people like Tango in character talking like "Oh ho ho its happy fun super sauce omg ho ho crazy"...like dude we know you're like 35+ and really technically minded you don't need to talk like a kids TV character to appeal to kids just really puts me off regardless how interested I am in their builds. Similar to Hermits like GeminiTay, Mumbo and Stress, I wouldn't mind watching them for their build styles but as an older viewer its just overly kids TV presenter territory that's too cringe character roleplay for me personally.

[@lachlanokeefe8020]

@@CB-lw7ty I agree. It just isn't as fun watching what looks like a scripted tv show made for kids as it is watching very technically minded, smart people collaborate and solve problems. At least that's what I've felt the change has been. but some roleplay is ok, and clearly they want to keep some of that so I think minimally it's all right.

[@57daysproductions]

Honestly, I'm glad you tried something that you ended up disliking, and were comfortable saying, "Hey, I didn't like doing this." Because as important as I think it is to try new things, I think it's equally important to be okay when they don't work out. I super look forward to seeing what comes of Season 9 from the whole crew, and I hope it's easy for you to sink back into your passion!

[@gbwvc223]

The thing I love about hermitcraft was the lack of scripted roleplay. There's a ton of other people that do that. Hermits collaborating and letting things develop naturally is what I think the magic of hermitcraft is.

[@camerongallagher8356]

thank you!

[@marli4442]

yeah this is why i liked watching the botem crew it amazes me that they made an amazing town and a kohisive? storey line just by messing around with boets this is my first season of hermit craft and i love it

[@pandanarian7625]

So you see, THIS is the problem although, this gives hc its charm and i LOVE it, Xisuma tried to follow a trend and failed, but he can't he wasn't built for this, the DreamSMP did it and it worked for them. But xisuma just can't, so even if i want the storyline, i get that he would not like it

[@zakaryan2004]

The whole season 8 was scripted

[@marli4442]

@@zakaryan2004 no the ending was scripted but not all yes some hermits where scripted but there are some that wasnt scripted

[@elrac7333]

The derpcoin storyline helped me explain scammy behavior to my 7 year old, so thank you for that. Also, it's almost heartening that so many younger people recognized that it was scammy, since that's what you were trying to portray. Season 8 was my favorite due solely to the proximity mod. It made the interactions so organic.

[@abandonedaccount123]

the proximity mod is amazing!

[@emmaparkin8543]

I was going to say the same thing - discussing derp coin with my kids was brilliant! So thank you Xisuma for trying something new. Xx

[@frimi8593]

I mean the fact the character’s name literally had “evil” in the name certainly helped with that lol

[@elrac7333]

@@frimi8593 you would think, but apparently some people still took it seriously.

[@frimi8593]

@@elrac7333 well that figures. I would imagine most people got the gist. Even more so if they watch the hermitcraft recaps too

[@cammoore___]

6 will always be the best in my eyes, with lots of individuality but also lots of Roleplay in Civil War and even Sahara in a way.

[@Smitology]

Not scripted either, although the civil war was very planned near the end, it emerged completely naturally. False stealing the 5 Grian heads from Iskall didn't do it with the intention of starting a civil war.

[@tartarustrommler5454]

The thing about the prank War was, that it didn't feel like roleplay. Sure, there was a story they were playing throug, but they did it as the players not as characters.

[@eddmower2297]

The ending definitely felt rushed as people tried to finish up their bases. It didn't feel like anyone had finished their base by the time the season was over, but I understand why. I enjoyed the lore and seeing a Derpcoin or two popping up in chests.

[@thomasw4422]

I like it when the bases are established and getting used. The season ending meant we missed out on that

[@amiiboacid4785]

The difference between season 8's storyline and the ones in 7 and 6 is that those storylines emerged organically from player interactions, as opposed to the moon which was completely pre-planned and was not impacted by any player actions.

[@filefolder3]

Yea, scripted storylines are just not as interesting because you know they are fake. When storylines occur naturally, I feel like there is an actual purpose.

[@samt3412]

I gotta agree. Area 77 did the Big Moon storyline but better in so many ways.

[@leab3647]

yes

[@fashnek]

Not true. Storylines in 7 and 6 were also often broadly known many weeks in advance.

[@amiiboacid4785]

@@fashnek Obviously they make sure they have consent before officially declaring war but otherwise it was all improvised and the causes of the war emerged naturally

[@redwilliams7894]

I'd say in order to get a great season of Hermitcraft, everyone should just do what they love/passionate about. You guys are way more energetic that way

[@EvanG529]

I prefer non-roleplay stuff. Also I though the whole point of everyone being on an island was that when you update to 1.18 there would be new terrain across the sea.

[@jayofthep]

Impulse mentioned that when they did the update in a previous season and moved away from the main area it split hermits and fractured the world so they opted to basically do the update and just have everyone start fresh together

[@Matt-ce8mr]

@@ShootBigBucks I don’t think they care so much about money that they’d lie to their fans for it. Also, I don’t think it would even make much of a difference in their views. Now I’m just curious why u don’t like the hermits?

[@LoonyMC]

Love the reflection here. Sometimes the perfect way to find out what you need to be at your best is ending up in a situation that turns out to be less than ideal. To me (re) learning what is or isn't my thing always causes a huge burst of motivation to do what I remember I do best. Have fun with S9!

[@roryturner4322]

Hey Loony!

[@Jo3sX]

Hope to see you on the server one day Loony.

[@maxwyse1982]

I think that he is a perfect fit.

[@jordythesheep]

Yoooo Loony

[@davidepretti4667]

little thought: the fact that there was no shopping district was actually very enjoyable. There are a lot of stuff going on the server and few people can actually follow everyone: the need of hermits to actually explore other areas rather than their base and the shopping district only, helped the audience to see different hermits' projects and actually be interested on different lores

[@cranknlesdesires]

I hope next season they continue with this, maybe with a bit more use out of the roads too

[@zirconiumzealot6613]

I definitely agree with this, the use of the roads and no-elytra challenges were also a pretty interesting take.

[@einsteiner2249]

It did limit people who didnt have enough time to watch like 4 different hermits to only 1 side of hermitcraft. I guess that's what hermitcraft recap is for though

[@SilentMeteorite]

HUGE AGREE! Was a little sad when shopping kind of got centralized in the later half of the season

[@crimson5689]

@@visiblur What do you mean? Other people did the same. There was big eyes Italian town and the swamp shops from gem, false, and stress to name two

[@iceygamingrulez]

I personally didn’t enjoy how it is becoming less and less vanilla but it seems like most people are enjoying it more, also i preferred having the combined shopping area, it just seemed to make more interesting things happen but i really liked how close everyone was together and the proximity chat is a great addition to the server.

[@JackiEEEEEEE]

I actually enjoyed the fact that it was less vanilla.. vanilla minecraft is good but datapacks mods and texturepacks make it way better and the possibilities are infinite

[@kafal6158]

I fully agree, I personally didn't enjoy the more story based aspects but maybe the newer fans loved it

[@Loifey]

@@kafal6158 as someone said it’s great but in smaller portions, not too much not too little

[@AlejandroS-mh5gm]

I actually prefer the way it’s not so vanilla. This does not hurt the game or the series, instead, it makes it better with more things for hermits to do and sell, so it’s not repetitive every season.

[@korosuh9609]

I personally like the non vanilla things because it does not change the way you play also i looked at minecraft in this way of thinking "oh that's not how i know minecraft" and i strugeled to accept new updates and such so i dropped that point of view

[@_taste]

I think the stories are great when they are used to give a background to builds. Like I really like the story behind Scar's Swaggon concept, but I'm glad that didn't determine his actions on the server, just his builds. I would really like to have seen some of those builds continue (Scar's mountain, Grian's midnight alley, Octagon), but it seems that a short season had benefits for a few people like you and possibly even boatem which suffered also from that really rare bug in Minecraft.

[@Eli-ou8sq]

what was the bug? i havent watched the full vid

[@_Unlived_]

Its funny how quite a bit of hermits managed to finish their bases, some sadly couldn’t finish before the end of the season and then there is Scar who hadn’t even started building his actual base yet. The Swaggon was literally his starter base just like his magical village in S7.

[@Smitology]

The swaggon will always be the true mega base in our eyes.

[@zeppie_]

I think that while storylines are nice and all, but I’m still watching Hermitcraft for the Minecraft gameplay and content creators, not the stories and characters. Roleplaying can bring a bit of excitement to the experience, but in the end roleplaying or not it’s still the Hermitcraft I love. What I see when I see roleplaying, is some people having some fun and messing with their friends. There are lots of ways besides roleplaying to have fun with your friends in Hermitcraft, and I think that doing whatever you think is fun is what’s most important to me as a viewer

[@adrianpaulochoa9825]

True i watch hermit craft for the genuity and originality of spontaneous encounters. One reason I don't watch the dream smp is because the story lines feel forced and the interactions feel pre-made. I watch hermit craft to see wacky charming stuff between different people.

[@konkey-dong]

@@adrianpaulochoa9825 I was never able to get into DSMP due to it being 'videos using Minecraft as a platform for roleplay' rather than 'videos of people having fun and making cool stuff in Minecraft'

[@urviurviurviurvi]

The addition of proximity chat was great, but I feel like it was much better when there was a shopping district. It allows for more collabs and it kept a fun, non-scripted storyline in hc season 7. While the small amount of roleplaying is fine, its important to keep a balance. Without a shopping district, parts of the continent can't connect with others as well, meaning less interactions and more of hermits trying to put in their own stories. But thats just my opinion and I probably could've written something better. edit: i realised this was written terribly, here’s what I was really trying to put across: say you only watch one hermit. You’ll see them walk into some shop in the shopping district and compliment the creator. or maybe you’ll see them walk up to a competition stand thing and again, talk about the creator or maybe others who are taking part. that might encourage the viewer to go watch the other pov, see that person’s general area and perspective. with a shopping district, for me at least, it feels like things in the server get more down to earth and less surreal. They may not interact properly but at least they acknowledge each other instead of only those who are in their vicinity, they are in war with or have invited them for stuff (cough cough, zedaph, cough cough)

[@Qudh]

I completely agree

[@atlasx_4718]

I agree, but perhaps with the knowledge of it being a short season (and majority story-based), a shopping district may have being to time consuming. But I do agree, having a shopping district with everyone in the same area creates a better atmosphere and more interactions.

[@J11_boohoo]

Completely agree, I miss the shopping district!!

[@hyplexz2304]

I'll be honest, I personally liked having separate shopping districts. It helped me see the hermitcraft world outside from the Hermits I watch (mainly Boatem along with Gem). I think that the separate shopping districts also allow for more interactions, but I dont mean more of Hermits running to Hermits, I'm talking about the pranks that result from groups trying to overcome the other. I personally hope the separate shopping districts stay

[@quickpik4121]

100% missed the shopping district

[@TheLazyBot]

I was pretty late to the whole hermitcraft thing, only watching since season 7 and mostly sticking to Mumbo, but 8 kinda lost me. I liked the charm of people just working on personal projects with the occasional collaboration/business deal, and I found that 8 didn’t have as much of this as I liked, and it lost me. I’d love to see how 9 turns out, maybe I get pulled back in

[@F4keOfficial]

I suggest you watch season 7 whilst waiting for season 9. If you want to of course. But it's great !

[@Smitology]

@@F4keOfficial Season 6 too, although it's pretty long.

[@F4keOfficial]

@@Smitology yeah I loved it too, the first season I watched from start to end, since I started watching hermitcraft during season 5 ^^

[@cuppajoe2]

I started in season 6 and, maybe it’s becuase it’s the first season I watched, but it was my favorite. With the whole Sahara story line, scars redstone shop, and just the shopping district in general I loved. I wish you guys could just go back to the style of season 6, it was so good.

[@mariotheundying]

I started watching since grian started playing, i have been watching his pov since the beginning (season 6), 6 and 7 were amazing seasons, 9 looks to be a blend of the 2

[@nicknack125]

I don't really mind as long as we still have genuine goofs happening between the hermits. It feels like there's an unsaid rule that if some hermit proposes a "plan" to another, then the other has to go along with it at least a little, instead of just going "haha no lol that's dumb" which makes for some great moments.

[@SakuraShirakawa]

The other hermits get this too a lot. Grian and others have had to countless times say "Don't worry about (such and such wrongdoing or destruction) we all get along and are friends so don't harass other hermits." It just comes from having such a large Hermitcraft fanbase comprised of so many great Hermits fanbases such as yours. Just always remember, just like anywhere else, like twitter, facebook, youtube comments, the negative are the loudest but smallest percentage of any group.

[@ScooterinAB]

I'm concerned that this is clouding everyone's view of things. Other than the Boatem trolling (which was still taken as good fun), I think a lot of the messing around in this season was pretty chill. Fun as the Mycelium War was, people (viewers) really seemed to take that too seriously which ended up ruining the experience. This was just people running around and messing with one another in a clearly fun way. But people (again, viewers) really seem to be taking offense to things, and I worry that this is resulting in a lot of negative outpouring to the Hermits. I hope that they remember that this is a vocal minority and don't overcorrect in the future because of it, thinking that far more people were upset than really were.

[@Epixx64]

Straight facts

[@advanceringnewholder]

Remember, the Bolsheviks (majority) are actually minority

[@Loifey]

Having everyone in groups close together was really fun because it was so many more collabs

[@ambriasaunders1869]

Oh no... Duo found me... I'll do my German lesson today, okay? (I agree, the collabs were amazing! I'm eager for the future.)

[@mendaciousphooka]

Hi duolingo!

[@playfulplushies8000]

I personally didn't like it that they were closer together because that would lead to more collabs. Its because many of the hermits episodes tend to come out very similar as they all contain the collab. For example, if the average episode is 20 minutes and 5 hermits collab together for 15 minutes all 5 of the hermits episodes end up being very similar.

[@NotTheWheel]

I absolutely agree with you Loifey that's what I liked most about this season too. Felt so neighborly and cozy.

[@Ignis79]

@@ambriasaunders1869 du lernst deutsch? Viel Glück

[@Sunnywastakentoo]

I didn’t watch much Hermitcraft in early seasons or newer ones but I can say that my less favorite bits were the story. I really just like cool Minecraft stuff. Meta stuff like a story can be neat but definitely can fail hard for me.

[@deusvult6920]

This is how I feel. The stories feel forced.

[@precisa_]

I feel that one of the major problems with S8's ending was that the expectation of a short season hadn't been set from the begging, and at the last few episodes it still felt like there was a lot still waiting to happen at that world, the moon sudenly crashing and detroying everything didn't feel like a natural conclusion to that storyline. By the end of seasons 6 and 7 everything felt concluded and there didn't seem that there were many ways for them to expand so the places they ended felt right (maybe they'd gone on for a bit too long but i'd prefer that to the season 8 ending that felt way too soon) But it's not only a matter of absolute size, the Third/Last life both felt like they lasted for the perfect amount, and they were far shorter than s8, but there was always a clear expectation of "this is a short series and people will loose their lives until everyone drops out". But in s8 the expectation was that it was going to be as as grand and last about as much as seasons 6 and 7, so by the end, it just felt unfinished,

[@galacticmechanic1]

I think scar's hat really made his character, if you are using custom textures again that's the way to go with it.

[@fungberto5562]

yeah, iskalls no fly club was pushing it imo and then the “no-no fly club” kinda just made the custom texture items get stale.

[@fungberto5562]

tldr, custom items should be used in moderation and not overused like i felt it was in season 8

[@bobthebox2993]

My favourite use of the custom textures was Scar's personalised hats.

[@mayas3422]

agreed!

[@MrSimpsondennis]

people were like "Xisuma is evil and trying to scam people, let's hate on him" meanwhile Scar ACTUALLY scams people and people love him for it. Don't let it get to you X, it's the internet, there will always be haters (sadly enough) :) But it's like any reality show, there's always a lot of viewers who can't differentiate between an actor and the persona they're portraying.

[@MsHalcyon2]

This, right here. I think part of why Xisuma drew fire vs the Scar example is because the tactics Xisuma used in trying to teach his lesson were extremely obvious. Scar's tactics on the other hand are actually fairly subtle. It's not quite as obvious on hermitcraft compared to for example Last Life but even the way he cuts together his videos is meant to make him look innocent. And a lot of viewers are young and not necessarily great at perceiving nuance, so they saw Xisuma's tactics but missed the lesson. They probably miss Scar's tactics entirely. There's another comment on this video from a dad who actually did use the Evil X storyline as a teachable moment for his son. If more parents had engaged with the content and their children that way, then I think Xisuma's goal would have been accomplished without the hate.

[@Cosmin1213]

My only complaint is that this season felt really, really rushed. A bunch of hermits haven't even finished their bases, there were no mini games, stories were abandoned etc. I do get wanting to start fresh with the new update, but I would have liked to see the moon story spun in a different direction, rather than ending the season.

[@quaruke9489]

Tango did a mini game

[@TimSwast]

The custom textures for hats were a wonderful addition.

[@pepearown4968]

I think they should be a one time thing, though.

[@bsidethebox]

I too really enjoyed seeing how different hermits approached the custom items front--Scar making the personalized Boatem hats as gifts, Beef making sellable food items that weren't necessarily better as food than the regular farmable items but were aesthetically "fun" (and then people using them as decor), the Derpcoin as an alternate unbacked currency, Tango using it for making a disguise and pranking... If they stick around I think it'll be like the armor stands - some hermits really love working with armor stands, some never touch them, and that adds a fun dynamic (yes, yes, and a touch of lag) to builds - but also to interactions between members of the server, with services to be sold and purchased and bartered. Although I have seen lots of viewers saying they liked or didn't like various aspects of this season (and previous ones), I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone say anything other than More Yes Please More to "genuine" interactions between hermits (genuine being perhaps not the best word but I can't think of a better one to indicate not roleplay related which is more divided). Collaborations, purchases and sales, favors and building together, building advice etc are all part of that and I can see the custom texture tool sticking around in some form because it does encourage/facilitate more interactions without dramatically un-vanilla-ing the core gameplay...but I doubt it'd ever be as "central" as it was this season, with most hermits eyeballing it's potential and trying it out in different ways.

[@shaunacall4685]

Loved Tango’s tree prank…hilarious!

[@OGchickentnt]

I really didn’t like the more forced storylines of season 8, I felt like it just got in the way of the more natural creative conflicts of previous seasons. Idk just me. My favorite parts of the season were the parts without the modified bits like the boatem/big eye conflict I thought was fun, but the moon just felt forced and annoying. I get wanting to end the season to move on to 1.18 though

[@ThePmso]

Yes. And the builds. I love the "caves" of Tango (Fifi's cave) and of Grian (Midnight Alley). The Impulse's factory is also cool, but it was really half done.

[@bdbhai9308]

I loves this season more than any

[@ciciflower9615]

@@ThePmso Impulse is making a series where he’s finishing his factory. You should check it out if you haven’t already

[@zman90]

Honestly I'm surprised that 90% of people didn't feel the same way as xisuma, honestly I never liked extreme storyline that hermitcraft season 8 was Season 6 and 7 had good storyline because it didn't make their storyline so extreme, it was something you could do in vanilla minecraft and it wasn't planned But season 8 felt too scripted and and didn't feel natural and it was planned.

[@opossauce]

i think when people say "forced" vs "natural" stories/roleplay, what they're really trying to say is planned vs improv. things like the civil war and the mycelium resistance were (as far as i know) mostly improv-- at least at first-- while things like the hermatrix and the evil x story of this season were planned.

[@Pip_Bear]

regarding the derpcoin story, the fact that people thought it was a scam was good (obviously not the hate that came from it). it shows that micro-transactions are scams and people not within it are hateful towards the creator.

[@hyperwater47]

True. It's just unfortunate that those people now feel negatively toward X, and might not look for his videos/Tweets where he can explain the moral of the story.

[@tung-hsinliu861]

@@hyperwater47 it would be helpful if other hermits help talk about these behind the scene ideas, plans, and moral of the story too. I can imagine that younger audiences won't get it, and probably it's important to officially address them to prevent permanent if not long term misunderstandings.

[@ScooterinAB]

@@tung-hsinliu861 Sadly, boneheads are going to be boneheads. Compared to how divisive the Mycelium Wars were, this was super tame. If someone is getting personally offended by it, they're not going to listen to the explanation. Let them leave and grow up a little.

[@NirateGoel]

@@ScooterinAB Doubt they will learn anything and they'll probably just be another one of those ignorant idgets that you wonder why they get a vote.

[@Pip_Bear]

@@NirateGoel yeah, but some people are just young and dumb. Some can grow up but the ones who dont are quickly told to p*ss off and then learn to

[@snailymitch]

Admittedly skipped out on a lot of Hermitcraft for this season except for Etho because of the roleplaying, not really the type of stuff I'm looking for personally. I feel like season 7 hit a nice balance between the RP and SMP aspects since a lot of it just sprung up from small pranks people were pulling. Anyways, if there's one thing I did enjoy about the season was the continental aspect and how everyone was so close and connected. Seeing people build roads and stuff between each other was fun to see. Elytras are cool and all but it's a shame how it completely overshadows that type of networking.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

My only real complaint was how short the season was. I mean right after one of your longest seasons ever you go into season 8... Add to that tons of hermits took time off for vacations, moving, health issues etc. It really felt like none of the plans really had time to be completed. Basically the hermits barely cared about the world they knew wouldn't last, it was hard for viewers to care about something they don't.

[@JacksonOwex]

If you look at the graph of the length of each Season 7 actually comes in the middle with 2, 3, 5 and 6 are longer than 7 was!

[@LectionARICCLARK]

Really appreciate this honesty and vulnerability. There was a lot that was excellent about this season. Proximity and collabs were especially great.

[@szzrhn]

I’m so happy to see that X is comfortable talking about this with his audience. A lot of youtubers might get caught up in the numbers and keep pumping out content that they themselves aren’t enjoying as much as they could. It was a great experiment to try changing the hermitcraft formula but if that doesn’t produce more satisfaction for the creator at hand then it probably is the wrong thing to be doing. Stay positive X we love all your content!

[@OscarEyri]

I agree! I personally prefer less role play

[@margustoo]

I think that the main problem with this season was that too many hermits focused on just building and doing some things with their neighbors and as a result there weren't many serverwide events, games and antics (tag games, civil war, turf war etc). Probably havings an expiring date and not having shopping district or some other area for whole server were the causes for that. As far as your Evil X storyline goes I think it was one of the strongest parts of this seasons, and you are way too critical of yourself and doubting yourself too much. You did wonderfully :) Not everything has to fit the storyline perfectly. Also I think that it was somewhat good that viewers felt like they wanted to defend other hermits from schemes that we see in MMOs, mobile games and in others. It shows that they care..

[@racool911]

There was Tegg lol, which was a tag game

[@lumara4654]

It’s great when people are passionate and interested about the storylines, but when it becomes something to fight and defend it’s not a healthy thing for either the creator or the commenter.

[@margustoo]

@@racool911 My point was that there weren't enough of such things.

[@brittn2410]

I think it is because this was a short season. Usually server wide events would take place after bases were finsihed and this time the moon literally crushed them right around when bases were being finished. No time for the shenanagins we all love.

[@messynessie4417]

Yeah, they never got to the fun part. I missed seeing them play and create games inside the game. I really missed that this season.

[@turbojake3457]

Season 8 was my favorite, not because of the roleplay but because I LOVED how you guys were always interacting with each other. You all lived right near each other. PLEASE keep doing that in the future because it made it so much more entertaining to watch

[@user-qn5fz2lo3e]

proximity chat was such an incredible addition, I've been rewatching old seasons and despite watching for ages it almost feels strange now to see hermits have to take a moment and organize a vc before jumping into conversation. It really just makes every collab feel so much more organic.

[@LordAJ12345]

Many people here flat out say they didn't like the roleplaying/storyline stuff. But honestly, what Doc and Ren did this season is the best thing I've ever seen on Hermitcraft. The builds and technical exploits were incredible and the storyline is what tied all of it together. I also loved Cub's Moon McGee news segment to name another example. I've played Minecraft and watched videos about it for over 10 years and quite frankly, I'm glad things are not stagnating. I like the datapacks, I like storytelling and roleplaying. These things can be so much fun, the perception that it's just something younger viewers want is odd to me. Obviously no hermit should feel the need to partake in these things if it's not their style. That's perhaps the issue with the moon arc, it dominated everything else. But I've heard tango speak on stream about how he enjoyes creating videos because it allows him to tell stories. I know Doc would never let an opportunity go for some overly epic roleplaying. This is not something that should be discouraged.

[@truthhunterhawk3932]

Doc wasn't that well last season, and he didn't really do too much except mine massive amounts of resources with that machine from Sci-craft. He really did shine this season. I didn't even know how good a builder he was! I loved that mix of absolute crazy technical and the really cool builds!

[@kakapofan6542]

I didnt like it because they were using roleplay to cheat. I don't think they are very good at acting either and those who can't ignore that like myself find it hard to watch. I watched 2 of Doc's episodes before deciding I wasn't going to invest in something I didnt enjoy watching. I don't like it when people pretend something is bigger than it is. I prefer sincerity over relatability

[@kakapofan6542]

I appreciate what X was trying because I found it sincere

[@frederickalberts]

And I was turned away from watching Xisuma, because I felt that the storyline he went for was not my thing - maybe partly because I have only watched Hermitcraft since Season 6, so I know little about Evil X. In conclusion I stopped watching Xisuma because I don’t like/understand the lore about Evil X.

[@truthhunterhawk3932]

@@kakapofan6542 Have you seen Empires Smp? Thats pretty good roleplay, and excellent builds! Fwip especially.

[@messydeskproductions4159]

I think stories feel more memorable when they aren't such a large component. It felt like this season was weighed down by stories. The parts I like the most about hwrmitcraft interaction is the goofy, unplanned things.

[@linsidious11]

Agreed. This season just felt scripted. Whereas say the season 7 turf war or the hermit challenges stuff felt organic and like friends messing with eachother.

[@roenais]

kind of sad to me that people keep trying to shift the conversation towards "hermitcraft shouldnt have scripted stories" when i think the point here is "X himself doesn't like doing scripted stories." if other hermits had a good time then that's great, and fans of their stories shouldnt be discouraged!

[@roenais]

i'm more talking about how a lot of the questions in this video carry a tone of 'stories bad' while xisuma keeps trying to say that its just not what he likes doing, which are different things. i totally respect if people didn't like the overarching story of s8 even if i don't agree. (and honestly i'm just glad it was over quick so the hermits that were stressed by it can go back to their usual content in s9!)

[@posty1131]

Season 7 was so good because the story lines felt natural like they started from the hermits just goofing around but slowly got bigger and shaped into something nice

[@klokar21]

The latest season was bittersweet, this season more than any felt like nobody really finished their bases, except maybe Geminitay, i loved what we got but i was pretty blindsided with how short it was, it felt like allot of "story lines" never got solved like doc and rens book adventures. We barely saw mainstays of Hermitcraft like Keralis, Iskall, stress and etho which was really sad. The evil empire felt a bit strange, but i liked it, boatem was amazing and i hope more hermits get together and build together because i feel that's the biggest strength of hermitcraft. Jo and cleo really only just got started on their mega base and i was really looking forward to see how it went. I really hope future seasons are not this short because season 7 was out standing and still ending earlier, i hope next season is a massive one.

[@phoenixvarietychannel4034]

What about cub, an insane biome. Agreed about Gem too. She had an amazing season. Boatem was an amazing idea and i rather enjoyed the idea of giga bases

[@seymour47]

Cub, Gem, the Botem crew, and Doc and Ren really did a bang up job this season. Etho clearly just didn't have his heart in it once it became clear to him the season would be short. I can't speak to Keralis as I don't really watch him. Iskall, on the other hand, straight up abandoned Hermit Craft for his Vault Hunters streams. I honestly wonder if he has any interest in being on the server anymore and frankly I question whether or not he should be. This is two seasons in a row that he has basically disappeared from the server for extended periods of time. At some point, you just have to wonder why he's even there anymore.

[@klokar21]

@@seymour47 yea i feel that, Iskall has given up on hermit craft which is a massive shame because vault hunters is something that just hasn't taken off, at some point you should know when to quite, hermit craft is what people want to see

[@phoenixvarietychannel4034]

@@seymour47 i tend to agree with you but iskall 100% IS A BUILDER AND I THINK HE MAY STILL be unhappy he couldnt finish his mega tree base. and knowing the season was gonna be shourt i dont think he had heart this season. he did have big projects outside of hermitcraft and i respect he focussed on other endeavors. ive loved all of his other seasons, this one didnt cater to him so he took a step back. maybe next season hell be back blowing our minds, one bad season shouldnt be judgement enough to say his hearts not in it. i think this short season ay have done him a favor so he could work on his ambitions aside from hermitcraft cuz this season wasnt for everyone

[@billsabado9393]

Iskall explained in a stream that he didn't feel like he fit in with the other hermits this season. Plus there were a lot of toxic commentary that didn't make things easier for him to want to put any more effort than already had.

[@mustard7306]

About the Derpcoin: I think what everyone seems to miss is the fact that, even if you were charging full price for stuff purchased with it, it's just another currency. Diamonds might be the more standard currency, but they only really have value if you need extra tools or armor; since the addition of Mending, you basically only really need about half a stack as long as you don't die in the void/lava (and even lava's not gonna destroy your stuff once you upgrade it to Netherite). The value of diamonds is close to being as imaginary and arbitrary as that of something like Derpcoin. So, it's no more a scam than paying in nearly-useless diamonds for something valuable like redstone components or concrete blocks is, which is to say it isn't a scam at all -- the value comes from the fact that people will use it for trade.

[@ScooterinAB]

Yeah. And I don't see the derpcoin being any different from people buying each other's stock and reselling it, or covering up each other' s shops so they can't get sales. It was so clearly a bit, and I feel bad for anyone who got upset over it. As for the diamond economy, it's one of the only blocks/items that can't be fabricated. I thought years ago about a redstone or gold economy so that diamonds could be saved for gear, but that would just get abused by some people building farms, making the currency valueless. Emeralds are clearly how for that reason, given how easy it is to abuse that. But in a game where you can spend hours and hours farming (manually or via automation), not currency is going to hold its value for long.

[@ScooterinAB]

@James Sturm No. People put value on diamonds in Minecraft because they can only be mined or found. They are not a renewable resource. They cannot be fabricated from nothing by way of a mob farm or villager treading. This has absolutely nothing to do with real world fuckery regarding diamonds.

[@ScooterinAB]

@James Sturm I have to disagree. Netherite is more valuable. It's just that by the time people get to that point, they have the ability to blast away to look for it. It's rare, but easier to find. Plus there's also the fact that calling trade in Hermitcraft an economy is probably not accurate, since the value of things is trivial. On other servers, the market means more, but I wonder how much the pricing actually matters here.

[@ScooterinAB]

@James Sturm Minecraft isn't real life. Stop applying real life logic to a game where you can punch a tree down with your fist and survive falling into lava. Yes, the diamond industry is a predatory crock of shit. But we're talking about a fantasy video game, not real life.

[@rplay1223]

I think season 6 will always hold a special place in my heart

[@AwkwardNinjaz]

I wish I could have seen more of the fall out after the derpcoin "crash" but I loved how some of the hermits embraced and some feared it. When storylines are involved people seem to forget as long as there is great content there are no winners or losers, I don't even play Minecraft anymore but look forward to checking in on the Hermitcraft server.

[@drewstaser9726]

It felt like the redstone side of Minecraft was lacking this season- especially with Mumbo, Iskall, and Impulse, but with generally everyone else because they knew they would not need a massive bulk of items.

[@snowfang5734]

But tango was crazy with all the ravagers redstone. That thing was beautiful

[@Grittled]

@@snowfang5734 not that complicated to be honest, but still a good one

[@chriskane482]

Doc practically broke the game this season with his red stone?

[@drewstaser9726]

@@chriskane482 I meant redstone in terms of farms and industrial districts. Not so much...what ever you would call Doc's season

[@RisokaOni]

@@drewstaser9726 I would call it redstone specially in terms of farms and industrial districts. Doc and Ren made some of the most technical farms and had an amazing industrial district this season.

[@annawingert5911]

It's really admirable that Xisuma used this opportunity to step outside his comfort zone, but I think he's doing himself a disservice saying he's planning to stick to his comfort zone. He's learned more about his strengths, and next season is going to take advantage of them!

[@molliebowling7029]

Personally, I loved the story driven season. Had a lot of fun viewing with my son. He's 10 and totally got your derp coin as a caution that some things may not have the value that they appear to have message. Don't feel bad about sitting out stuff in the future though. The best part of Hermitcraft is that everybody contributes to the season with their own projects and it all builds to a rich world experience.

[@DamionVander]

Whatever stories there are to be had in Minecraft survival, come about whenever you change something in the world. What you create . What you leave behind. That becomes a story. Your story! The history of you! When you go back to those places later, with a friend, build a couple of tents and place a crafted campfire in the middle. Sit that friend down and say to them, "dear friend, pull up a seat, have a golden carrot and a potion of slow falling. Now let me tell you a story of how this all went down."

[@brendanramsey8311]

While some may think his independence is somewhat extreme, I think Etho is really wise when it comes to continuously making the game fun for himself and keeping his videos exciting based on what is happening in them, such as his new modded series, as opposed to how he’s making them. I mention him because his way of playing is practically opposite to the way you played during season 8, with the added complications of the story and the community building and whatnot. When creators sacrifice too much of themselves, they lose some of what made people like them in the first place. I’ve been watching Etho since I was 13, and I’m 22 now. He hasn’t gotten stale. Anyone that tried to reinvent the wheel and overcomplicate the very form of minecraft youtube videos, got shallow and uninteresting (though I’m sure the goal was to become deeper and more interesting). The only gripe I have for Etho is his limited uploads, but it is necessary for the quality of the content. I think if you have to sacrifice content in favor of yourself, while the benefits may not be apparent, it will be beneficial to your audience. You enjoying the game is what people want.

[@Octoshark19]

i agree 100%, just wish he'd upload more often

[@sightninja]

I’m actually gonna mention bdubs here too - I think within the last few years bdubs has really gotten to know his own play style and lean into that. Doesn’t upload as often as some other hermits but each episode is always firmly a “bdubs” video ya know?

[@Nico_Peeko]

This is exactly me, I’ve been watching since 9 or 10 and I’m 20 now, he’s never changed (Of course he’s changed a little, but he’s still the same old Etho).

[@TimSwast]

The Derpcoin / EvilX story line brought a lot of fun and variety to this past season. Bummer that some folks sent some hate your way for it.

[@JenInMinecraft]

I enjoyed the satirical irony of it, too. It's probably something only older players and viewer would get. X is more on the philosophical side (just check out his existentially philosophical chat during his livestreams).

[@UnReaLgeek]

I'm surprised that the hate wasn't cryptobros screaming about how he structured it to make the "scam" obvious.

[@geshiku5018]

Season 7 was amazing, the whole Bee themed builds, amazing shoping distric and general cozyness made it my favourite season, felt like the perfect balance

[@bombshellblonde544]

I think Season 8 was my favorite season, with the caveat that I think there was a bit too much scripted stuff. The proximity chat was the best thing that has ever happened to Hermitcraft, though, because I think the strength of the series is interaction between Hermits. Proximity makes it so that reactions to each other and collaboration is very organic and natural. People rocking up on each other and startling one another or seeing something surprising feels much more authentic, and it adds a lot of novelty and interest in. That addition alone made it hands-down my favorite series. Thanks for adding prox chat to it. It really brought it to a whole new level of entertainment.

[@krazykoala7329]

I enjoyed season 6 the most, as everyone seemed to be having fun and less burned out. Nothing was really scripted, mostly improvised I believe. I would personally love another season like that

[@nottawa86]

same, infact imma go watch it right now. i really miss season 6! 7 was good too, but 6 was better.

[@krazykoala7329]

@@nottawa86 it’s so nostalgic bc I I watched it at the start of the first lockdown all within a couple of weeks. Everyone seemed so happy then I really miss it.

[@avian972]

That’s the same reason I like season 5, grian is a great addition but it definitely brought the target age demographics down and made it feel more immature (I don’t know how to phrase that well because obviously a Minecraft play through is going to be childish)

[@krazykoala7329]

@@avian972 i personally liked the addition of Grian, but then again I am 15. But I think he make season 6 interesting bc I’m pretty sure before that there weren’t really many server wide events. (Correct me if I’m wrong)

[@brandonplays702]

Yeah season 6 had so much. Honestly mainly to grian and I think everyone and every hermit can agree on that. A lot of the shenanigans and events were because of him

[@erlgjnerigneoifnroiueabgr]

i personally enjoy storylines and scripted roleplaying a lot, however, i felt like it didnt match hermitcraft that much. im always excited when something turns out to be bigger than just some builds or pranks, but on season 8 it felt like its happened "too often'." i've assimilated hermitcraft with a chill, building smp thats very "meta" - we know that its a game and if they ever tell a story, its not supposed to be immersive like a series or a movie, and the enjoyment of the game itself and hanging out building and having fun comes before a higher scripted fantastical arc. The big moon thing didnt grow on me (haha) ever since the start and it got more and more and more "meh" the bigger it got, because it was what everyone was talking about constantly. it felt like everything went to a hault just for this one very not meta roleplay, and thats completely fair, after all it was the ending of the season, but its definetly something i wouldnt like to see more than once. you said it perfectly when you say that you dont want to need to have a motive when doing something, you want to do it just because its fun, and i feel like thats the whole mindset when engaging with hermitcraft. i think everyone has mixed feelings about this one season, but im personally all for experimenting outside our confort zone even when it doesnt work out, because then we are absolutely sure of what works and what doesnt.

[@sebastiannitu6928]

Even though i love the roleplay aspect, it was too forced this season. I like that they also play the game, and not just make a movie. That's why i like hermitcraft a lot more than dream smp. Dream smp is like 80% scripted

[@Falcon532.]

When I first crunched the math on derp coin it completely baffled me when I realized how cheap everything was in the Evil Emporium

[@draugnaustaunikunhymnphoo6978]

I always liked having them build their bases and then see how things go on from there. Not end right when they finish their bases when I would consider the season to finally start beginning. Which was my plan on this season, but then it was seemingly so abruptly over.

[@opalwhisker]

I'm really sad that Xisuma feels like he got burned this season. I LOVED that he was one of the hermits that had a continuous storyline. I love that hermitcraft isnt super story driven-- i like seeing everyone mess around together and build stuff and have fun-- but i was hoping that there would be a few more storylines to follow. I think Moon Big was a great idea, have a big event that all the hermits can react to in different ways, but I really appreciated the effort Xisuma put in to Evil X. I'll be sad if this experience puts him off of roleplaying/story building entirely, but I also understand that its out of his comfort zone.

[@Flo-rj8tz]

I can appreciate the effort that goes into the storylines, especially with the animations this season, but I mainly watch Hermitcraft for the great builds and the more "natural" small scale interactions between hermits. That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy season 8, but in a direct comparison I prefer season 7 (only started watching mid season 6, so I can't really comment on the others). If this season went on for as long the previous one I'm not sure I would have stayed engaged for the whole time

[@abhijeetvdsh]

You really did summarised my feelings, look at Empires ... Ot started great and now players as well I lost interest in it

[@mrspeedysmax64]

Hey there! Post civil war gang too!

[@Loosehead1]

Season 6 of hermit craft had to be my favorite. That’s when u started watching and I lived how long it was and how much different stuff happened. From Sahara to Mumbo and Iskall end busting I lived every episode

[@ashe3945]

This season was my introduction to hermit craft so yes, bittersweet that it was so short and different from other seasons. I went back to previous seasons and was confused because the hermits didn’t seem into it as much as previous seasons which made me sad. I assumed this was an unscripted server and I loved the idea that the hermits were making their own little communities and eventually everyone would figure out how to put it all together for some interesting overlapping stories. I just enjoy watching the creativity and expansion but I don’t want to watch hermits just doing it to do it… it’s better when y’all enjoy it. And that, I think, is the biggest difference between this and previous seasons.

[@explodingpug8707]

i agree! I can tell that the hermits are burnt out and aren’t really into it this season. Now I just feel that they aren’t building their bases for fun, they’re just building it because it’s hermitcraft.

[@Wizard4k]

I’m guilty of only watching some of the quote “main hermits” such as Grian, Scar, Mumbo, and Bdubs so I missed out on a lot of the lore building and lack of episodes from the other hermits. Even so I thought this season was going extremely well until a couple weeks ago when stuff started to feel a tad bit rushed. I was looking forward to so many projects and ideas being fully realized so it was kind of a bummer seeing them end so short. Other then that I liked the whole moon plot even if it steered from vanilla and honestly steering from vanilla gameplay is fine in my book as long as it’s purely aesthetic and doesn’t affect the main game. (So stuff like custom hats and blocks floating temporarily) Also yeah maybe don’t go full on lore building in the future, I think most of us can agree it’s just best to watch a bunch of friends play Minecraft. It’s hermitchcraft! Not a Netflix original series….

[@ScooterinAB]

@@Bluestlark Yeah. I only added a few others because I wanted to see their side of things, but that was only for a few episodes. I watch BDubs, Keralis, Xisuma, and now some of Scar and Grian's videos. Anything more than that is mental.

[@powowbunnyb0081]

Honestly, I agree completely with this. I keep hearing people say that the moon story was forced, but it never felt that way to me because a lot of the interactions from it were still natural reactions and ideas even if the end was planned.

[@dracmeister]

The thing I like about Hermitcraft is that the stories usually are secondary and that it is still made clear that the whole bit is still "friends in a private server." I don't like watching other SMP series because some of them employ very forced storylines, where its less about playing Minecraft but more as people playing characters. I like the stories to be intertwined with playing Minecraft and have most of the players in the SMP to be just themselves-there is nothing wrong about playing a character, just don't make it your entire gimmick. Watching Hermitcraft makes me feel cozy, since its literally just friends playing on a server. It's the same kind of cozy when playing our private server. While the stories are fun to see get resolved, it never felt too forced, its more geared towards funny interactions than anything, like when you're in a big friend group and a situation causes 2 unlikely people in that friend group to interact and make the bond stronger.

[@realrabidraccof]

Role playing is not my thing. Although I can see how it may appeal to a younger audience. I just thought it was unfortunate to see hermitcraft change so much without any warnings. I felt like changing the target audience was a bit like disregarding the long-time viewers. I think role playing worked out great for Docm, he seemed to have very enjoyed it and its probably his best season so far. Aside from Docm, everybody else degraded the quality of their content with the whole moon scheme in my opinion. I must say, it’s a huge relief to see this video come out X. I’m really grateful that you’re gonna stick to your more genuine content. Keep up the great work!

[@Kristiroller]

I’m so sorry that this hasn’t been anything less than a positive experience for you X. I’ve been watching since season 6 and I’ve always loved hermit craft for what it was. I don’t know if I speak for everyone, but the entire essence of what I love about hermit craft is seeing every hermit create what they enjoy. ❤️ you didn’t deserve all of this and there are many many people who support and love you for you. I hope your next projects absolutely flourish!

[@aussieboy4279]

I feel like some hermits really didn’t do so well with the role playing while other Hermits excelled! All of Boatem and doc and ren were so fun to watch and each of them handled the storyline’s very well and just were so much fun. While others like X were good but didn’t feel as fun as the others. Im gonna miss this season mainly because of Boatem, they were such a delight to watch and I hope we get more stuff like that next season!

[@TomDetka]

I know it was probably just a tagged on idea but the idea of a multi player Giga base I think was not as fleshed out as it could be. I mean it could be awesome if rather than everyone having their own storage systems and such just one huge system that the players in the base could draw from. This might be especially helpful for hermits that have had a patchy season. Let redstoners red stone builders build without having to do as much individual grinding. Projects like Mumbo/ Iskal Pacific mall would be much more attainable.

[@samt3412]

@@TomDetka Unfortunately, the short season meant that the gigabase we got was the biggest it could be.

[@SirAdyUnleashed]

Being a 20 year old man with no nostalgic attachment to Hermitcraft and having only started watching since season 6, I thought season 8 was really fun to watch. And probably the best.

[@ScooterinAB]

Same. Nothing is ever without its flaws, but it's really disheartening to hear that there was SOOOO much backlash over it. If anything, I think the season was a victim of the update not coming out, since that was a motive behind a lot of decisions that were being made. With it not coming out, there was little point in continuing it, but I think everyone made the best of it produced some fun content. Hardly the miserable failure it's being made out to be.

[@nmh3863]

I'm only watching for the last three seasons as well and although a lot of Hermits didn't enjoy the early ending (reasonably so) I felt like the whole vibe of this season was outstanding. Like really lively and wholesome - and although the actual server-wide event was missing (still could have happend, had the season lasted longer, tho) the whole server felt really tied together and much closer than during previous seasons. Everyone on one continent, proximity chat, custom textures and sometimes adding a bit of epicness were really great additions and I would really like them to stay. I think we saw Hermits growing exceptionally outside their comfort zone, pushing Minecraft to its boundaries, e. g. builds that were designed past superficial aesthetics but creating a deeper impression as an ensemble, that's just incredible. In the end though, does all of this really matter? Hermitcraft I feel like is not about pleasing the audience. It's about minecrafters doing crazy stuff for fun and enjoying time among friends - who just happen to have an insane audience; and as long as that's the foundation for everything that happens on the server, it will be amazing.

[@ZeroOhClock]

@@ScooterinAB but the only reason we got Season 8 like it is is because it was short. Because of 1.18 not coming with 1.17.

[@ScooterinAB]

@@ZeroOhClock Season 8 was meant to be for the caves update. That is why they all stayed close together. It was cut short because that update didn't come, so everyone wanted a break. It wasn't a short season meant to fill in time. What happened was a because the update didn't come out on time, not because it was filler until it came out.

[@ZeroOhClock]

@@ScooterinAB they decided to make a short season when they figured out Mojangs plans. They planned to have a short season (9:47). Having a short season is something they have wanted to try out for a while. It also gave them the chance to get super experimental with what they can and can't do because they don't have the keep those expirements for too long. Idk what update you mean then? 1.18 did come. Do you mean specifically the wardens? I could be misunderstanding here.

[@justinnamilee]

Awesome wrap up video, wish I'd caught the stream, I'm sure it was full of great discourse. Can't wait for the next season.

[@connororella1968]

I have a very long commute to and from work every morning and I really enjoy turning on this channel and just listening to the things you talk about thanks for what you do you make my commute alot more enjoyable!

[@Cosmos0000]

Personally, I'm happy to watch the Hermits do whatever they want to do. If some want to do storylines, that's great. If some don't, that's also great. I'm here for all of it.

[@abhijeetvdsh]

Season 8 was heavy !! So much going on and felt incomplete ... Cleo's castle, scar's mountains, big eye district, etho,iskall,stress's bases, impulse's base, pearl's base, Diagon alley was fast forwarded and so many things that needed to be completed

[@xbit2011]

I couldn't say it better! I downloaded the season 8 world and almost nothing is fully done. The season was to short for anyone's plans.

[@pepearown4968]

@@xbit2011 Cub’s canyon was sort of done, but only on the outside. He still had several unfinished caves he needed to build.

[@angelabarefoot]

I don't often watch your videos, so I wouldn't consider myself to be part of your normal audience. However, my children do watch your videos. I thought the derpcoin concept was genius. It led to a number of in-depth financial conversations in our family - often at the dinner table - about related real-life topics (bit coin, etc.). I was surprised and delighted that a gaming video for entertainment could also lead to educational and informative discussions. As a parent, it was an awesome opportunity that I am grateful to you for providing. I know from this video that you got some feedback that surprised you. I'm sorry for that. I just wanted you to know that not all of the young Hermitcraft viewers saw the derpcoin experience as something negative. My family really enjoyed it. Thank you.

[@thunder_birdfps8294]

I enjoyed this reflection and I'm glad that at least now you know what you're comfortable with! I felt the same way about many things but Hermitcraft is just such a special community that I will always enjoy it. :)

[@ajbiffl4695]

One of my biggest laments about the end of S8 was that we didn't get to see the fallout of the collapse of the derpcoin... so much time setting up those dominos, no time at all to watch them fall. And I must say I appreciated very much what you were doing with derpcoin as a teaching tool, I found it very well put together - but all we saw was how it got set up, and none of the consequences. I think you got into that about how viewers were throwing hate at you about it - they didn't get the story because they never got to see the end.

[@analogbunny]

A highly coordinated season ending makes sense, as it lets everyone plan ahead, collaborate, and release at the same time. The finale was great. Everything else... I think letting things happen naturally with a "yes, and" attitude is best - like how the civil war turned out. The custom textures are great but only in small measures (maybe limit it to one or two per Hermit). The moment Derpcoin was introduced I got what you were doing - Doc and Beef did similar stories in S7 with loansharking and nobody minded. Not sure why. I think you did great work and should feel proud of your accomplishments.

[@irmaanubis]

God i love this channel so much its one of the few ones i still watch on yotube since getting a bit burnt out on minecraft content

[@Zauluton]

It was awesome to see your effort, even being out of your comfort zone trying with stories. There's always people that enjoy if they understand where it's coming from, and you even attracted attention from other major players in the community. Whether intentional or not, sometimes things get interesting when lore gets possibly found from the strong lore seekers.

[@mcgamerdad]

I enjoyed season eight, but I also felt that the "role play" became too much of the focus in some of the videos, especially near the end. But I understood why and still got a lot of enjoyment out of it. For me personally, the animation is fine when sprinkled in, but should only be used sparingly if at all. This is not meant to be criticism, at least not "bad criticism". I think you all did a great job, just sharing my preferences that others may not agree with. Which is fine.

[@tanodrea]

I was confused that the season actually ended. At the beginning Mumbo said anything built off island will be reset which maybe was the original plan or a setup within the story but it still would have been cool to see them expand out from the island after the update. Still I loved the wacky fun all the storylines became and it was a planned end instead of a sudden unexpected cut off to the season

[@Rimmic]

Man Xisuma, you are the coolest dude Ive seen no matter what you're aways trying to think about things on a different evel that I could never comprehend I love your so much for all the content you produce, and may I just say I love these Xisuma says talks, they give me a greater insight to the creater I love and how he is copying with things. Never change X, you are my role model, my entertainer, and my entire childhood wrapped up in a beautiful bundle. Thank You so much for all the work you do and even though it often times it gets unnoticed there is many of us out there that really can see how much time you put into your videos to other creators who are only looking to grow/cheat upon the algorithm.

[@paddy1144]

odly enough, the whole thing you did with the EvilX story line was what made me start watching you, and I went back and watched your previous seasons and I'm looking forward to see what you do in season 9. I enjoy most of the hermits, rping or not , but I do love it when you guys interact on the server and I can understand why some hermits need the rping while playing, it helps their content and keeps them going. Ive loved this season

[@captain_cx3375]

I think a generally longer season might balance the story/ roleplay vs let's play aspects of a season a bit more. But it is understandable why they opted for a shorter season this time. Also I thought the evil x story was great and quite educational but it is sad it wasn't always perceived the way it was intended. I do hope this doesn't discourage X from implementing other story features like this in the future if that is still something hes interested in :)

[@tung-hsinliu861]

Yeah people who blamed X for doing that is like hating an actor himself just because he plays a villain in a film. I really think the morals behind the story should be told to the younger audience(or anyone who doesn't get that), even hopefully with the help of other hermits.

[@ScooterinAB]

Sadly, it seems to have exactly done that.

[@powowbunnyb0081]

Absolutely agree. I think the story/lore wasn't the issue nor was it too "scripted" but the problem was that due to how short the season was it cause an issue with balancing the story with let's play like you said. Imo, season 6 had the exact opposite problem. I loved season 6 but towards the end it dragged on with no real story or goal and it felt like the end was disconnected whereas in season 8 the story really helped to lead to a clean (although rushed) ending. So really, I feel like this new season wasn't bad, it just needs more balance with the aspects that make hermitcraft, hermitcraft.

[@theoptionist8887]

the most important thing is that people have fun hanging with you and the hermits. i know this is a job but its also a passion . you do you and THATS what people who are into YOU are in to.

[@Talonman25]

I must say I truly respect and appreciate your transparency with how this season went for you. I had no idea it affected you this way with all the negativity. Props to you for seeing it through and growing from it. Much was learned from the Hermits and the Fans this season. Can't wait for the next, and many many more!

[@ElleKT]

For my two cents, I loved this season 8. The interactions between the hermits was the best part, as it always is. I think the interactions drive the "natural" storylines, like Civil War, the Mycelium resistance, the BTM vs. Big Eyes vs. RenDoc pranks. Zed and his experiments on the other Hermits in his Chamber. Joe and Cleo play off each other well too. Honestly, if you do what you love, and the love of that shines through, people will feel that and enjoy it.