HeroScape Master Set TIER LIST

[@smileydog5941]

1:54 We call him Samuel L Jackson because he looks like Nick Fury with a Dash of Mace Windu

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

Yeah TBH I might be dating myself a bit with the MIB reference there. Morpheus is also fair. Blade for a non-negligible contingent of Gen Xers.

[@waynekautzer913]

I love that, but I'm pretty sure Samuel L. Jackson would have a plot armor speciality, though! 😄

[@scaperstory]

Raelin and Marro warriors are top tier, DW9K is D tier (for Deathwalker)!

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

I like the idea of renaming the D tier the Deathwalker tier. That may stick!

[@nicksnyder6370]

By the way the marro warriors have four figures and they are s tier however when you consider Delta points that most tournaments use they are more like c tier in that case but that's because Delta points purposely balances figures

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

Yeah I know they have 4, the 3 would be if you’re holding back 1 to make sure you can clone.

[@nicksnyder6370]

@@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom it's way better to have 4 to move and attack with than to rely on one cloning tho

[@Garenex]

Always good to see another Heroscape video come out(impressive background btw) and unit ranking is always an interesting topic. I largely agreed with your rankings, especially Krav and Rae, and the ones that didn't line up, make more sense in light of your comment about mostly doing large 3v3 games. So an AoE unit like DW9k is potentially more effective and the AE have more chances to drop. I was impressed with your analysis of the AE, as a lot of players think the best thing is to run up and use the grenades, when keeping at 8 range is often (though not exclusively) better. Most rankings out there consider units in light of tournament style games, so 1v1, 400-500 pts, which makes the AE more risky, as there's a good chance they won't drop. The biggest disagreement is probably the Marro Warriors. When played right, they are one of the best units in the game. Did you mention if you took non-RotV units into consideration? As the bonding options definitely change the value of many of these units.

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

Thanks for the background props! And yeah you nailed it for DW9K, in 3v3 he gets more chances to shoot into crowds. Sometimes the starting zones look like parking lots. My rankings are pretty much within a full pool of official units, primarily pre-D&D waves. After the comments I’ve gotten here and on Reddit I’m going to lay those qualifiers out at the beginning of the next HS tier video I do, for sure.

[@Garenex]

Knowing that, Grimnak maybe should be higher, as the Heavies/Grimnak army is one of the best in the game. And yeah, what units you consider and what type of games you play largely impact how good a unit is. For instance, Taelord isn't good at 500 points, but is immensely better in a 1000 point game.

[@waynekautzer913]

Agent Carr is more like Morpheus from the Matrix than Will Smith from M.I.B. 😄 So - do you have most or all of the Heroscape collection? I had all of classic 'scape until I sold it all. Now I am rebuilding my collection and I would say that so far, I've got around 10% of everything there is.

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

Haha you might have a point with Morpheus! I have at least one of all the official ‘scape units, and at least 3x of every common squad up until the D&D waves (I have 1 of each of those). Between the units and the terrain it fills up two 90-gallon bins (using hardware organizers in there, not just loose in the bins.)

[@waynekautzer913]

@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom That sounds like my old collection. I had ×3 or ×4 of all common squads (including D&D). I'll probably never have that much again. I'll get as much as I can without spending huge $$ (such as on axegrinders) as well as getting probably all of AoA.

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

Yeah I’m ready to get whatever Renegade pumps out for HS barring a disaster in design or something like that. I could never get into C3V or C3G so I’m ready for some new HS.

[@Garenex]

Yeah, the VC scene is a bit tough to break into, and I never got into them myself either, but they did help keep the game going. More and more tournaments are allowing VC units though, so it's not a bad idea to be familiar with some of the more popular ones anyway. ​@@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom

[@waynekautzer913]

@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom Even if the Renedade redesigns are bad, we can still get the figures and print out the Avalon Hill design team's cards for those units which were mostly excellent, in my opinion.

[@kimobruns]

Interesting ranking! 1. Airborne Elite is clearly A tier imo--> a first-round Drop is crazy, as they are valient, they work great with 4th Mass, ridiculous when bombing a packed start zone in deathmatch and also very useful for gaining early control of domination points or fulfilling scenario objectives ;D 2. Marro Warriors are also A tier--> They are a group of 4 that outperforms their point value almost in any game. I agree Marro are the typical Heroscape poster boy units; very thematic! Can you tier-rank Swarm of the Marro Master Set Figures next? That would be epic!

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

1. Good points on the Airborne and Marro Warriors! One thing I didn't mention in the video is I'm probably biased towards units that perform well in 3v3 team battles (usually 3 armies of 500 on each side) since that's the format I've played the most. 2. Definitely going to do a Swam of the Marro tier list, the only question is 'when'! Thanks for watching!

[@nicksnyder6370]

Cool to see what you think but deathwalker sucks cuz anytime you get him once he's in a fight for a turn or 2 he dies lol, when you are using more than this vid and have multiples of squads he just isn't worth it

[@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom]

In my experience that all depends on how much attention is being paid to DW. I’ve also seen matches where he lasts way longer than he should because with that many defense dice sometimes you get lucky. I could see how if you focus primarily on tournament formats he’s lower than where I have him.

[@nicksnyder6370]

@@JacksonWarfieldsGameRoom well i usually play the same way a tournament is played but even with uniques only he's more of a lower tier pick because as soon as he's engaged, if you have 3 or 4 figures attacking with even just 3 attack one or two of them will roll 2 or 3 skills and when rolling 3 or 4 times for defense you are bound to roll 1 or 2 shields at least once in average then if he did attack back most people won't set you up for the explosive attack so he only attacks 1 figure with a fairly good ranged attack then he proceeds to be attacked 3 or 4 * and if they are not attacking him it's because you have better figures in your army to kill so if he survives longer it doesn't make him good in that way that's like saying kyntella gwyn is good because she's sitting in the back doing nothing and she lasted till the end