Hey, Does God Exist? Asks Hamza Tzortzis

[@munawargillani7533]

the outburst(origin) of universe is so awe inspiring. the realization that it is the plan of a Wise God removes the sense of loneliness and helplessness by His Presence and His Wisdom and brings you to be at ease and peace.

[@Nganj]

Exactly logical explanation on the existence of the creator. Zazakallah

[@JazzyArtKL]

Nothing logical here, my friend. See my answer above.

[@amadubah8931]

Ferry K yea I agree can you show the example in the quantum world?

[@skrill3770]

@@JazzyArtKL well you mean to say if we add zero infinite time we will get something...lol.. 😂😂😂

[@itszain6317]

@@JazzyArtKL point out what's not logical here?

[@snakey5856]

@@JazzyArtKL ye well your arguments are perfectly correct because 0+0=1. Let’s put aside the Godly argument and involve the islamic argument that supports the argument of God. Bring me an error from the Quran. That’s a challenge that i challenge you.

[@mdsaim1046]

MOST LOGICAL ANSWER,THIS IS THE ULTIMATE PROOF .

[@SamaraTrollero]

Best answer so far, short, logical and just plain simple.

[@George-iv1hi]

like shit.

[@athmaneoran1479]

@@George-iv1hi that's really argumentative !

[@George-iv1hi]

@@athmaneoran1479 Like shitty islam, better now?

[@abukitty9557]

@@George-iv1hi of course it's argumentative you piece of a shit, he's just explaining it for normal people, otherwise he has had debates with intellects

[@George-iv1hi]

@@abukitty9557 Kiss my ass, moron, but do not forget to clean your shitty mouth first. Allah is stupid pagan god of the moon and we all know it.

[@omarrespect6010]

[52:1] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "By (the Mountain) Tur," Glorious Quran [52:2] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And by the Book inscribed," Glorious Quran [52:3] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "(Which is) on an Unfolded Scroll," Glorious Quran [52:4] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And by the House populated (by the angels i.e., the Ka‘ba in heaven)," Glorious Quran [52:5] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And by the Lofty Roof (i.e., the High Heaven or the Most Exalted Throne)," Glorious Quran [52:6] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And by the swelling sea!" Glorious Quran [52:7] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Surely, the torment of your Lord will do take place." Glorious Quran [52:8] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "No one can avert it." Glorious Quran [52:9] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "The Day when the heaven will shake with a terrible tremor," Glorious Quran [52:10] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And the mountains (leaving their locations) will fly fast (like clouds) and scatter (like dust particles)," Glorious Quran [52:11] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "So on that Day, woe to those who belie," Glorious Quran [52:12] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Those who are playing a game of negligence, rapt in falsehood (i.e., absurdity)." Glorious Quran [52:13] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "The Day when they will be forcefully pushed towards the Fire of Hell," Glorious Quran [52:14] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "(It will be said to them:) ‘This is the Fire of Hell you used to belie." Glorious Quran [52:15] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "So is it magic, or do you not see?" Glorious Quran [52:16] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Enter it. Then it is all the same for you whether you observe patience, or you do not observe patience. You will be paid only for those deeds which you used to do.’" Glorious Quran [52:17] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Surely, the Godfearing will be in the Gardens and Bliss." Glorious Quran [52:18] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "They will be delighted at (the bestowals) their Lord will have blessed them with. And their Lord will keep them safe from the punishment of Hell." Glorious Quran [52:19] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "(It will be said to them:) ‘Relish food and drink as a reward for the (pious) deeds which you used to do.’" Glorious Quran [52:20] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "They will be reclining (sitting) on couches arranged in rows, and We will marry them to maidens with fair colour (and) fascinating eyes." Glorious Quran [52:21] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And those who believe and whose children follow them in faith, We shall also unite their children with them (in the ranks of Paradise even if their actions would not fall in that grade. It would be in the honour of their pious fathers). And We shall also not reduce in anyway the reward of the actions of their (pious fathers. Besides this,) everyone will be held in (reward and punishment for) his own works." Glorious Quran [52:22] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And We will keep giving them fruit and meat more and more as they desire." Glorious Quran [52:23] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "There, they will take the cups (of holy drink) by grabbing. This (holy drink of Paradise) will be free of foolish talk and sinful acts." Glorious Quran [52:24] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And (the serving) youths will go round them as if they were pearls kept hidden in covers." Glorious Quran [52:25] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And they will turn to one another, enquiring well-being." Glorious Quran [52:26] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "They will say: ‘Surely before this, we used to live in fear (of Allah’s torment) in our homes." Glorious Quran [52:27] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "So Allah has been Gracious to favour us and has saved us from the punishment of the Fire of Hell." Glorious Quran [52:28] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Indeed, we used to worship Him alone beforehand. Surely, He is Most Gracious, Ever-Merciful.’" Glorious Quran [52:29] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "So, (O Esteemed Beloved,) continue to admonish (them). By the grace and blessing of your Lord, you are neither a soothsayer (the one who gives news through the jinn) nor a madman." Glorious Quran [52:30] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Do the disbelievers say: ‘(He is) a poet for whom we look forward to some temporal disasters’?" Glorious Quran [52:31] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Say: ‘Wait on, I am also waiting together with you (for your destruction).’" Glorious Quran [52:32] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Do their mental faculties suggest them this (foolishness), or are they rioters and rebels?" Glorious Quran [52:33] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Or do they say: ‘He (the Messenger) has invented it (the Qur’an) himself’? (No indeed;) rather they simply do not believe (in the truth)." Glorious Quran [52:34] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "So let them produce a treatise like this (Qur’an) if they are truthful." Glorious Quran [52:35] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Have they been created by nothing, or are they themselves the creators?" Glorious Quran [52:36] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Or did they create the heavens and the earth themselves? (No,) in fact, they do not have any faith (in the truth)." Glorious Quran [52:37] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Or do they own the treasures of your Lord? Or are they guards and watchmen over them?" Glorious Quran [52:38] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Or do they have any ladder (by which they ascend) and listen stealthily (to the heaven)? So let the listener amongst them bring the clear proof." Glorious Quran [52:39] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Are there daughters for Him (the Lord) and sons for you?" Glorious Quran [52:40] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Do you ask them for wages that they are weighed down with debt?" Glorious Quran [52:41] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Do they have (the knowledge of) the unseen that they write down?" Glorious Quran [52:42] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Do they seek to deceive (you) by trickery? Those who disbelieve are being caught in their own trap." Glorious Quran [52:43] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "Do they have any god other than Allah? Glory be to Allah, above all what they set up as a partner (with Allah)." Glorious Quran [52:44] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And if they see a fragment of the sky falling (on them, even then) they will say: ‘It is a layered (thick) cloud.’" Glorious Quran [52:45] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "So leave them (in their plight) till they meet that Day of theirs when they will be destroyed," Glorious Quran [52:46] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "The Day when their plots will be of no use to them, nor will they be helped." Glorious Quran [52:47] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And for those who are committed to doing wrong, there is a torment for them besides this torment as well but most of them do not know." Glorious Quran [52:48] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And, (O Esteemed Beloved, do not grieve over what they say). Wait patiently for the command of your Lord. Surely, you are (at all times) before Our Eyes.* And glorify your Lord with His praise whenever you stand forth. [* So what if the evildoers have turned away their eyes! We do not shift Our Eyes from you and keep seeing you all the time.]" Glorious Quran [52:49] Al-Ṭūr-الطُّوْر "And also glorify Him during the hours of the night and (in later part of it) when the stars fade out." Glorious Quran....... (Read Quran including me myself peace my allah swt grade us all ameen peace.)

[@ameenahmed4u]

Wow! Short and precise. Incredibly summarized everything to five minutes! Best ever explanation so far!

[@JazzyArtKL]

Koran as a source and false deduction. Bravo.

[@vbandz2645]

Ferry K nice one, since when did you study the Quran and the Tawheed with Hadiths, oh I forgot, you haven’t

[@helpchristians6236]

Ma Sha Allah ,one of the best explaination about this topic .

[@mrleyasbrownintrovert5020]

Alhamdullilah for Islam

[@swagnuscarlson]

I got you fam.

[@greentree4]

@@swagnuscarlson shut up shit

[@randroid4504]

@@swagnuscarlson fuck its satan

[@sacriptex5870]

Well, Laurence Krauss says that universe came from nothing...and he is atheist because of that! Live with God is so much more healthy! Im Catolic and i had a deep respect for you Hamsa! keep defending God

[@l0_0l45]

Lawrence did not say that. That is only the title of the book. It just makes the case that for a closed universe of positive geometric curvature, the sum of gravitational potential energy(negative magnitude) and momentum flux + stress(positive magnitude) adds up to zero. It is like saying that *1 + (-1) = 0.* However that would need for the universe to have positive geometric curvature, and would need to be proved. Till now we have only found no geometric curvature of the universe. So Lawrence Krauss is only presenting a hypothesis, and not making an absolute claim. Again in his presentation in this video, the guy ignores the cases of uncaused processes(like radioactivity) that can start causal processes, and things being uncreated, like energy. However this is omitted because these are usually reserved for god(i.e. uncreated and uncaused), but never challenged. The very fact that we see other processes that are both uncaused and uncreated undermines the god existence argument if god is defined toobe uncreated and uncaused. Lets see what you think of that. I am interested to know.

[@michaelshylock8269]

Without GOD, this life is useless.

[@michaelshylock8269]

Lawrence Krauss is an ass who came out of nothing.

[@l0_0l45]

@@michaelshylock8269 So did you. And you are an ass too.

[@ahmadraza3darts]

@@l0_0l45 lawrence came out after his father sex no argument its simple way

[@Jmanblack22]

Seeing as how god created time it stands to reason that he exists outside of time.

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

circular argument at its worst. But absolutely zero evidence for the existence of a god, just that stupidly circular argument.

[@hasanislam7533]

@@JoeHarkinsHimself no one can say that there is no proof. Go and recite Al Quran he beautifully explained his existence with practical explanations .The scientist came to know about black hole in 20 century but it is mentioned in Quran 1400 years ago .You guys can just deny .And let me tell u one thing We don't need any physical evidence to proof his existence. We believe in him .He is our creator.

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

@@hasanislam7533 I did not ask for proof. I asked for something much simpler, and much easier to provide for anything that really exists. I asked for objectively verifiable evidence. The rest of your statement is just assertions about what you believe. But you have not supported any of those assertions with any kind of evidence at all. Let's try one more time with a very simple question. Do you have a objectively verifiable evidence for the existence of a god?

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

@@hasanislam7533 as for your claim to some scientific value to the quran, I don't I think you really want to go there. You may learn more about the quran than you think you know.

[@kishwarkabir]

Prophet Muhammad (Alaihissolatu wasSalam) said that Alloh is The Time (AdDahr) in a hadith of the Muwatta. وَحَدَّثَنِي مَالِكٌ، عَنْ أَبِي الزِّنَادِ، عَنِ الأَعْرَجِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لاَ يَقُلْ أَحَدُكُمْ يَا خَيْبَةَ الدَّهْرِ ‏.‏ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الدَّهْرُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ Malik related to me from Abu'z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Let none of you complain about time, for Allah is time.' Al Muwatta: Book 56, Hadith 3 /1816

[@AbrarManzoor]

May Allah reward u brother

[@samer2125]

Yehi Mai Tujhay Samjha Raha Hota Tha

[@ibraheem896]

May Allah increase you in goodness brother Hamza

[@AbrarManzoor]

Allah hu Akbar kabeera alhamdulilahi kaseera

[@islam12539]

جزاك الله خيرا

[@saeedurrahman2056]

His 39 years old now

[@Robot588]

very nice explanation by Hamza brother

[@hossainmdabdullah7313]

im a muslim but still, this video explains WHY ALLAH HAS NO BEGINNING 100% m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKrKgqN5pNyUd80

[@HamzaKhan-jn2rf]

What a man this is Mashallah May allah bless you'll ❤❤

[@MostafaMansoori]

Very nicely said, love this guy, really smart!

[@Gedward0149]

wrong. wrong. wrong wrong...

[@MostafaMansoori]

@@Gedward0149 Hey if you don't have anything nice to say, then keep away and don't be jealous.

[@user-qd9ro1pq9s]

@@Gedward0149 sad guy

[@Gedward0149]

Mohsin Ali I am sad that there are people who are convinced by this guy...

[@user-qd9ro1pq9s]

@@Gedward0149 notice how you are changing the subject instead of replying back to what the other guy said. Sad

[@youssefjoabas2114]

From the middle east ,we love you Hamza

[@ahmedsaeed7529]

SubhanAllah MashahAllah Alhumdolilah AllahAkhbar

[@Diamondraw4Real]

Subbed you :)

[@tahir9591]

If im not mistaking, Aristotle used this same logic.

[@herpderp9430]

Yes. Aristotle's logic was faulty as well.

[@TherealvengenceBatman]

​@@herpderp9430Bring evidence

[@subodhmishra3214]

Most of the timeTalking about the powers of others including that of God is the clear cut sign that one is loosing sexual power or already has become impotent or frigid as if one is sexually satisfied and contented, simply overcome any odd situation and always feel happy.

[@lamborghini320]

This is the best answer so far, wich to me is incredible. Mashallah🕋.

[@blastortoise]

It's a shit answer, there is no god because the universe itself is completely against any god of the bible or quran

[@Ikhlashasib10]

@@blastortoise now this is a stupid answer

[@blastortoise]

@@Ikhlashasib10 Well you cant explain why so fuck you then lol.

[@ahmedkarim5618]

Powerful message mashallah, Allah reward him, guide him and give him jannatul firdaws and Allah guide all the non-Muslim to the path of haqq

[@abdulkaderkattan6963]

جزاك الله خيراً كثيراً

[@abdulkaderkattan6963]

سيأتي يوم تعرفي فيه ماذا يكون الحق

[@IsmailSarkaya-ll4ts]

### Summary: 1. **Introduction**: The speaker, Hamza Tzortzis, begins with Islamic greetings and introduces an argument for the existence of God. 2. **Qur'anic Reference**: He references the Quran, Chapter 52, Verses 35-36, which questions whether humans were created from nothing, by themselves, or by something else. 3. **Four Logical Explanations**: The scholars derived four possibilities for anything that begins to exist: (1) created from nothing, (2) created itself, (3) created by something else created, or (4) created by something uncreated. 4. **Refutation of Creation from Nothing**: The first option, that the universe came from nothing, is logically impossible because from nothing, nothing comes. 5. **Self-Creation is Impossible**: The second option, that the universe created itself, is also impossible, as it would require the universe to exist and not exist at the same time, which is a contradiction. 6. **The Problem of Infinite Regress**: The third option, that the universe was created by something else that is also created, would lead to an infinite regress, making the existence of our current universe impossible. 7. **Analogy of Marines**: To illustrate the problem of infinite regress, he gives the analogy of marines who need to ask for permission infinitely, which would mean no action would ever happen, similar to the universe not existing if created by a chain of created entities. 8. **Conclusion of an Uncreated Creator**: The fourth and only viable option is that the universe was created by something uncreated, which is a logical and rational conclusion. 9. **Attributes of the Uncreated Creator**: This uncreated Creator must be powerful, intelligent, transcendent (separate from creation), and eternal. 10. **Final Thought**: Tzortzis concludes that the logical attributes of this Creator support the existence of God, which he presents as the most rational explanation.

[@rachidelmhaoud7199]

قال تعالى و ما اوتيتم من العلم الا قليلا

[@fawadlala7762]

Ma sha ALLAH .Hamza is a gem

[@TheKorbi]

What if the universe is uncreated? It doesn't need a god then

[@MMASansaar]

You are willing to defy The big bang theory ( that clearly states universe was created with a bang and has a beginning) just to prove God doesnt exist? Clearly its not their eyes that are blind but their hearts!

[@adnannur1917]

well that would mean that the universe is eternal which clearly contradicts the very same explanation of the big bang theory.

[@hossainmdabdullah7313]

im a muslim but still, this video explains WHY ALLAH HAS NO BEGINNING 100% m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKrKgqN5pNyUd80

[@itszain6317]

Cmon man.. I thought we humans were already done with this topic wether universe had a beginning or if it is static.. top scientists of the world had discussion on this topic and at the end they came up with the conclusion that this universe had a beginning

[@shahreyarcool311]

Awesome answer..... Loved it

[@m.s.dawood6985]

hamza: "If i got some nothing , added a little more nothing, and sprinkled some more nothing, all we will get is? athiest: UNIVERSE! hamza: now thats a turndown 🤣🤣🤣

[@motivationlife694]

the question here is either the universe is eternal or Creator is eternal,,,i will go with second option.. since universe is changing, every spontaneous change leads to stability and unstable thing and be eternally existing at all and by the definition of God in quran 33:62 "God does not change" . THEREFORE God is eternal .

[@mohammadsayed6373]

May Allah-swt bless you and your loved ones

[@mdaroos1965]

Masha Allah.

[@mohammednaqhid8706]

Quranic Reply to atheist: Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain. Or have they the depositories [containing the provision] of your Lord? Or are they the controllers [of them]? Quran 52: 35-37 Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise. Quran 2:164 How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were lifeless and He brought you to life; then He will cause you to die, then He will bring you [back] to life, and then to Him you will be returned. Quran 2:28 Definition of Allah itself uncreated: Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Quran 112

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

every religious book makes the same claims and also attributes the creation of this world and universe to one specific deity. How do we know it is your deity? Do you have any reliable source outside the Quran proving its existence?

[@ahnafabdullah5307]

@@shankhan-yg1tt Allah is just the translation of God to Arabic, you can check it out on Google translate if you Want, so you see, Christians worship God, Jews worship God, we worship God. It's the same Power, the same core of the universe which is in itself not a part of the universe. ❤️ We worship the same entity.

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@@ahnafabdullah5307 You can make up whatever as you go along but the fact of the matter is this; Jews and Christians reject your god and don't believe in the same god as you. Do go ahead and tell them that you know their religion better than them I am waiting

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@Xipli Young I used logic and it's definitely not the god that tells a woman to cover up so rapists don't get aroused

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@Xipli Young it will lead me to a creator who hasn't been created by anyone and that will lead me to infinite regress. But do go ahead and tell me what I missed

[@MuhammadShahzad-vw3vm]

What a great answer

[@abdullah5141]

Concept of creation does not apply on Allah as the concept of creation requires space and time, both of which were created by Allah.

[@chrisbutton7959]

Lolololol u don't see the problem with this sentence

[@brucewayne7875]

you have stated that creation requires space and time and yet you're saying that Allah creates space and time. That makes no sense.

[@chrisbutton7959]

@@brucewayne7875 its worse than that. And only in his words is ironic. Thanks for noticing

[@brucewayne7875]

Not sure what you mean.

[@TherealvengenceBatman]

​@@brucewayne7875 Comon Bruce Wayne, didn't think you'd say this.

[@patthanboy444]

*Very Well Explained*

[@ShaheenKhan-fp4wz]

Mashallah

[@manzoorahmad4504]

Hamza !You are our hero ma Allah bless you

[@jesterloo7246]

The Big Bang doesn't mean the universe began. We don't know what was before the Big Bang and whether the Big Bang was the beginning. It might've just existed forever in some form.

[@Hallucinatingfreak]

+Jester Loo ok when you are sure then tell us

[@jesterloo7246]

AK I don't think we can know how or when the universe started with our current technology, but I'll let you know if I make some big discovery, sure.

[@Hallucinatingfreak]

Jester Loo I just do not get it , why is someone like you who just gave me an honest answer now that he can not know find it to difficult to believe in a creator thinking he will lose all his logic and rational thinking, you will reply back with the god gap argument I am sure but do not you think that science gap is becoming even a bigger argument with the recent discoveries ?

[@jesterloo7246]

AK I don't know what the "god gap" and "science gap" are. The reason I don't believe is simply because there is no evidence. What "recent discoveries" are you talking about?

[@Hallucinatingfreak]

Jester Loo What is the criteria that you can accept as evidence ? IF you want to see GOD physically then rest assured till the Earth ends no one will be able to do so , anything else can be accepted as evidence for you ? Could you give me some examples ?

[@AhmadJZaigham]

Ma Sha Allah brother, Tabarak Allah.

[@besser-nicht]

First I was thinking it's high skilled sarcasm. Now I know it is a believer

[@likeg6ihavenoname823]

lol

[@itsnelu7497]

Nice man

[@refatboos7418]

ALMIGHTY GOD IS ONE WHO IS NOT CREATED BUT HE CREATE EVERYTHING...... THAT'S THE TRUE SENSE......THERE WAS ALWAYS A SUPREME BEGINNER WHO CREATE AND BEGIN EVERYTHING EVERY CREATION AND HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY...GOD ALMIGHTY HAS ONE.......HE IS ALL POWERFUL........HE HAS NOT MAN NOT WOMEN........NOTING IS SIMILAR TO GOD ALMIGHTY....... HE IS NOT BEGOT AND NOT HE BEGOTTEN...... NOTING IS ALIKE HIM......HE IS TOTALLY PERFECT... ALL KNOWLEDGEFULL.....EVERYONE IS DEPEND UPON GOD BUT HE IS NOT DEPEND ON ANYONE OR ANYTHING.......IF HE WANT TO DO ANYTHING HE JUST SAY BE AND AND BECOME..... I TELL U THE CRITERIA OF ALMIGHTY GOD ACCORDING TO (QURAN,BIBLE, HEBREW TORAH)...... AND IT'S MAKE ME SO MUCH SENSE IN MYSELF.....

[@swagnuscarlson]

Here's a link explaining exactly why you're just fucking wrong about that. medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/a-mathematical-proof-that-the-universe-could-have-formed-spontaneously-from-nothing-ed7ed0f304a3

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@swagnuscarlson that does not proof how something exist and doesnt exists at the same time, give me an explanation about that something can exist and cant exist at the same time.

[@swagnuscarlson]

@@waalaikumsalam. you can't even prove you exist. You can talk all you want about your body and thoughts and brain but you, the thing that drives those things, are not physical. You can't be measured or weighed only your body can so how do you expect to prove a god one way or the other?

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@swagnuscarlson you cant even proof energy sihr voodoo and why we live(not how we live) what is the reason. explain to shams al maarif do you believe in souls? yes well atheist never explained it, no? how do you explain posession.

[@swagnuscarlson]

@@waalaikumsalam. lol possession.

[@ahmednetherlands5750]

All the love to ech human beings in this planet. Love and peace..

[@দোয়েলইগ্র]

thanks bro hamza.

[@umarlastchatisthabestchat7416]

my question for those who not beleive in God.they say that science say there is no God. but the truth is that the science still might not able to see bermuda triangle.how science see God .I am a Muslim and athiest give answer of my question

[@hannahspencer9857]

umar last chat is tha best chat Science doesn't say there is no god. Science asks for religious people to justify their belief in a god, and they have yet to do so. So, seeing no evidence for this god (Allah) science will not believe in him any more than they believe in any god from any religion where the burden of proof has not been met.

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@hannahspencer9857 do you know why, you atheist dont included muslims sientist who believed in allah, explain to me if you believe in a sould, no? explain voodoo and sihr, and do you know shams al maarif? why does atheism doe not have an answer on that?

[@islam12539]

جزيتم خيرا

[@thehominid.4882]

This video commits numerous logical fallacies: 1) It utilizes an argument from ignorance to support a scientifically unsubstantiated assertion about the supernatural. 2) It also utilizes what's known as: "the God of the Gaps" argument, which is also logically fallacious.

[@motivationlife694]

the question here is either the universe is eternal or Creator is eternal,,,i will go with second option.. since universe is changing, every spontaneous change leads to stability and unstable thing and be eternally existing at all and by the definition of God in quran 33:62 "God does not change" . THEREFORE God is eternal .

[@zverh]

@@motivationlife694 There is no evidence for the existence of any "creator." Using your religious book to assume the existence of "creator" and also his property of being eternal is commiting circular reasoning.

[@Alex-lg9zb]

This end result doesn’t mean the creator is your god, it just results with there being a creator. Even still, these routes to finding the creation of universe aren’t the only options. With the conservation of energy, who says the universe isn’t eternal? Just with things such as the Big Crunch, etc. Not even entertaining the idea of infinite universes? Or is that just an assumption that you can’t get behind because god.

[@Ikhlashasib10]

bro there is only one god there isn't a muslim god nor christian god there is only one god and bro don't act stupid nearly all the scientists say that the universe is not eternal and we can also see evidence of that to back it up

[@Ikhlashasib10]

infinite does'nt exist in the real world within space and time

[@Alex-lg9zb]

@@Ikhlashasib10 Yeah, this line of thought proves there has to be a creator, but whether it’s Allah you cannot say by going by this logic. Search up deism, there’s no reason as to why that cannot be the case. Who are these scientists and where are their research papers that prove the universe isn’t eternal? I’d appreciate it if you could link your source please. The current consensus is that all the particles of the universe were infinitely dense at one point and already there, and then after the Big Bang they became less dense as everything spread out. Don’t talk about science, you’re the last person to employ it. Didn’t your prophet fly to heaven on a horse-creature with wings, Buraq? And there was a flood where Noah saved all the animals of the world? Your prophet also split the moon in two? “Don’t act stupid”, yeah, I’m the one acting stupid…

[@Ikhlashasib10]

@@Alex-lg9zb don't talk abt science lol who came up with the scientific method which we use today let me know and universe is not eternal bcuz it shows the properties of being finite also the universe had a beginning it even has a flippin age so how can it be eternal you're just giving me your mere thoughts and opinion without backing it up

[@Alex-lg9zb]

@@Ikhlashasib10 Origins of the scientific method predates Muslim culture by literally thousands of years, if that's what you're trying to imply. But you're right, early Muslim Polymaths certainly were developing it substantially during the Islamic Golden Age when it lead the world in Science. It's just a shame how far it's fallen, unfortunate the Mongols came and ended it all - chances are you wouldn't believe in a god if it never ended and I wouldn't have to waste my time... Our universe started expanding 13.8 billion years ago, _expanding_ . There's a very important difference. It does not rule out the fact that another universe may have existed before ours. Remember I said "infinite universes" in my original comment, but admittedly did word it poorly. Our universe may end but another may occur due to ours ending, that is what I meant by "eternal". The source is below. I'd really appreciate it if you could offer me a counter-source instead of just claiming I'm giving you my "mere thoughts and opinion without backing it up", and acting like it's not you that has unsupported opinions. www.khanacademy.org/science/cosmology-and-astronomy/universe-scale-topic/big-bang-expansion-topic/a/how-can-the-universe-be-infinite-if-it-started-expanding-138-billion-years-ago www.sciencefocus.com/space/how-do-we-know-the-universe-hasnt-always-existed/

[@mawlankhidir4361]

Which God do you mean, mine or yours? Dead argument.

[@thebosssam5976]

the God of the universe and every creature in this universe

[@brucewayne7875]

Even if a conscious agent was responsible for the universe, what makes it a God? How do you define God?

[@hossainmdabdullah7313]

im a muslim but still, this video explains WHY ALLAH HAS NO BEGINNING 100% m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKrKgqN5pNyUd80

[@itszain6317]

@@brucewayne7875 god means the creator of the universe.. call him whatever tf u want and give him whatever kind of attributes u want but at the end God is an entity which is eternal and created the universe

[@brucewayne7875]

@@itszain6317 Why must the entity be eternal? And why must it be singular?

[@thisizmostafamahammadal-hi7391]

Great job man

[@saintpine]

Logical rational conclusion just died.

[@TheLuminationYouTube]

saintpine nope, it died when the atheists first said that the universe has been there forever.

[@zacharybatten]

I don't know an Atheist who says the universe has been there forever, and we know when the big bang happened

[@navaerick86]

@@TheLuminationKZbin it died when people started to think it's ok for a middle aged man to penetrate a 9 year old girl.

[@arielnans6590]

Erick Nava lol.. u don't the truth.. so don't try to be smart, it's ddnt work.. and that is clearly stupid.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqiyeGqlarShgck watch this video..

[@dreamworld1153]

SUBHANALLAH ALHAMDULILLAH ALLAHU AKBAR

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

so god came from nothing, didn't create itself, and was created by no one so basically it doesn't exist. Just you logic

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@alt Genug How was he/she/it always there? Care to explain, please?

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@alt Genug The exact same logic applies to your god too so now it's for you to prove to me that it's YOUR GOD that was uncreated and not a teapot that created the universe

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@alt Genug I have watched this video and many others like this. I am asking you once again as maybe I haven't been clear enough before: why does the logic of infinite regress not apply to god? Why is god the only possibility when it comes to looking towards the origin of the universe? And what proff do you have that it's god indeed and not an asteroid?

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@alt Genug Your statement and the statement of hundreds of others like you has never made any sense. God is not created because otherwise it would need a creator but on the other hand you argue that everything needs a creator. So what you are doing here is something called Special pleading. You are making an exception for something (in this case god) without justifying why it's an exception and no the fact that a medieval book tells you that your god created the universe is not an exception. So unless you have sth new to add, don't bother to reply

[@shankhan-yg1tt]

@alt Genug All that you mentioned are just words and I applied Islam to my life and followed it wholeheartedly for more than 25 years before realising it's nothing. Anyway, nothing for me to add. Goodbye

[@hamzalaraib9468]

Love Sir! Allah hu Akbar

[@charlievaughan1308]

I am an irishman who is agnostic I dont follow any religion. Maybe there is a God who looks down and says " WTF, IS GOING ON WITH ALL THOSE JEWS, CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS?"

[@scottmad8563]

How in the world did I end up on a video about Islamic beliefs

[@sidekick8983]

Did yoy click on the video involuntarily?

[@aryazaziz2773]

May Allah reward you 💙💙

[@chitranshsrivastav4648]

Even if you proved that the universe has cause, you still have to prove that that cause is god and then you have to prove that that god is your specific god, Allah.

[@muhammedp1646]

Read Quran , research its miracles

[@manieralocked]

it must be god because anything else as a cause would not make sense. so it cannot be any other way

[@ultiumlabs4899]

No need more proof man. Whoever create universe we call it God, and in islam we call him as Allah.

[@hasanislam7533]

Allah the Almighty is our lord . If anybody denies then it is his or her problem But the true thing is He is our Creator . He is above all.

[@blastortoise]

Prove he exists then, since the video didn't. Verifiable evidence only, not "Muh book written by primitive people"

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@blastortoise proof how something can exist and not exist at the same time? And do you believe in a soul? no explain voodoo and sihr.

[@blastortoise]

@@waalaikumsalam. The burden of proof isnt on me, because its evidently true that god doesnt exist, so why should i prove that he doesnt when he already doesnt? Souls dont exist, voodoo is what religious people believe witches do when putting a curse on someone, and schrondingers cat.

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@blastortoise have you ever seen it? i did that is why am religious, but i letted you know my proof on got of existence

[@blastortoise]

@@waalaikumsalam. No you didnt see god because nobody has. Hallucinations dont count as proof, feeling overwhelmed in a church or mosk doesnt count as evidence, i felt overwhelmed at a church last time i went because i realized how unsettling it is to be surrounded by a cult.

[@Sam-qf7hk]

The first three assumptions are all contestable. Something can come out of nothing: True nothingness is not possible to achieve. Subatomic fluctuations do happen in a pure happen. Backed up by physics. It can create itself: The rules of common sense need not apply to the universe as a whole. There is a famous paradox where you are your own son, father, grandfather, great grandfather and so on. Things get messy when you tinker with time. An infinite loop is possible: You can have infinite objects in series with each object still existing. Numbers are a good example. There are infinite numbers(infinite numbers even between two numbers), there is no first number, yet each number exists. Assuming a creator is in no way a logical or rational choice.

[@Sam-qf7hk]

*pure vacuum

[@zubairmohammed1264]

Hes talking about the physical infinite. Anyway he doesn't believe in Islam because of science. To be honest i don't really have a answer and i wondered about the question before. Id like you to try one thing. Ask god sincerely for guidance and see what happens. It takes 5 minutes out of your day. Whether you believe him or not. There is no harm.

[@DGBMenno]

So sure, I can get behind the idea that we were created by something that's eternal, but where's is the proof that this eternal being has a plan for us? We haven't really had a sign in so long and it feels like almost every religion is just trying to put us in a box. Trying to give us the same solution for every problem but everything changed so much that the solutions that are being offered don't work for everything anymore Btw this comes from someone who is new to religion and is still struggling with his believes

[@suushi-baked]

That is where we seek guidance. Questions like why are we created and etc. Qur'an actually is a book of guidance, and if you want a second neutral opinion about the book, I recommend you to watch Jeffrey Lang's video in youtube about his Atheist POV while reading the Qur'an. I hope we will all be guided.

[@hashiramasayan162]

DGB Menno this will answer all your questions brother. www.google.com/url?q=onereason.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/The-Divine-Reality-Newly-Revised-Edition-2019.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjIhrvc26HpAhX67nMBHZs4B90QFjABegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0on5KwmEeqNCBqtPJ_ERvy

[@blastortoise]

@@suushi-baked No the quran is a book written by fallible men who knew nothing about the world. If it were truly the word of god then it would explain the universe and us, how life came to be, why it came, why this all powerful and all knowing god needs a plan (Which the fact a god like that needs a plan disproves any religion that has 1 god immediately) try to actually think about how the quran clashes with the world.

[@suushi-baked]

@@blastortoise It sure is easy to conclude on to something based on your own rules and standards. What you are saying is, 1) Quran is a book written by fallible men who knew nothing about the world 2) If its truly a word of god then it should explain the hows and whys of universe and life. 3) I should think about how the quran clashes with the world. First and foremost, you are implying that for anything to be a word of god, the said script/book should have an explanation about the universe and people and life, and etc. But who made the rules about that? It is just a standard of your own qualification for a book to become a word of god. Lets say, (Premise 1) there is a god, (Premise 2) the said god have revealed some of "god's words" for the people and the revelation is "Hey What's Up? How you doin? Im God btw, Do you want my help or sumthng?" The revelation has nothing to do about creating the universe and stuff. But its legit god's words.. but then it doesn't make up your qualification. What I'm trying to say is, an author of a book doesn't adjust the content of what they would write based on the reader's wants or qualifications. and it doesnt make sense for a reader to claim who and who's not the author just because they couldn't comprehend and are not satisfied about the book. Im not saying the Quran doesn't talk about universe and stuffs, because it does talk about creation and universe, it does talk about the hows and whys of life, it does talk about life in general as it legit said, "this is a book of guidance.." (like bruh it even talks about how to deal with your debts.) Well, what Im trying to say is, yes! the Quran being God's words is a subject for a whole lot of arguments, and the author of the Quran itself wants to be argued and be challenged. It legit challenges the reader to challenge it(who does that?) soo yaah, if you really want to, you can read it and argue with the book itself. and does the Quran clashes with the world? I am a muslim and maybe I am bit bias with my statements. I know I haven't understood fully the Quran(I mean its hard, there are a whole lot of people studying it) But it does remind me to be patient when life gets tough, to be humble when life becomes easy It advices me to seek knowledge, and warns me not to go jump into conclusion without understanding the proof and evidence.(cough*) and lastly it reminds me that there is a God worthy of being worshipped. Peace!

[@blastortoise]

@@suushi-baked Thats not my conclusion, its something that we would see, an all powerful and merciful god would not have a book telling others to take slaves and kill others, ISIS wouldnt exist if god was real, and since the quran doesnt talk dick about anything of the universe then its pretty clear that god doesnt exist. The rest of yoyr argument is "well you brought up facts that i cant handle so you are wrong" let me say this: 1) Quran doesnt talk about the universe in any meaningful way, since it was written by primitive men it doesnt explain even the most basic parts of the universe. 2) A merciful god wouldnt create hell, thats just a fact, if you think hell is an acceptable punishment for a finite "crime", please take a look at what hell is, and realize that not even Hitler would deserve infinite torture, because there is no crime that deserves infinite retribution. 3) What book challenges the reader? Pretty much every book, Harry Potter challenges the reader to think about who is behind the weird events that took place in class one day, Dresden files challenges the reader to put the pieces of the mystery together before the end, it really isnt a novel concept but i guess skimming a book that tells you killing is good is not increasing your IQ. 4) Islam loves criticism, thats why they always try to kill people when they recieve it, like drawing a cartoon, or writing a parody book of the Quran (which the leader of Iran sent a bounty on the authors head for) creating the word "islamaphobe" when people disagree with their bigoted religion, the list goes on.

[@lunarious87]

Allah is a word, I see other things as.Allah is closer to us than the jugulat vein.

[@manishkundapur5280]

so I can create allah ?? I'll give him a suitable nickname :-) ... .. Gay

[@hasanislam7533]

@@manishkundapur5280 no Allah means one and unique.And there is no synonym of it go and find the. Name if u can fucking idiot.

[@Ahmad7farhan]

11 crystal clear biblical verses proving Jesus was a man not god, but christians refuse to use their intellect and become dependant on the teaching of the churches...may God help them

[@mansoortv3979]

Great job

[@ercanciftci1907]

but this doesnt answer if "Islam is the truth".

[@ahmadkahil9557]

That's not the title of the video obviously. But here's one for that kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZCtlJShd9WijaM

[@lewis72]

Maybe energy and matter have always existed and they are always transient. No god needed.

[@stalker6036]

Than what about bigbang?

[@lewis72]

@@stalker6036 What about it ?

[@ismailtofey1688]

So those 4 options are the only possible explanations to how the universe was created? What about other existing theories. All you have to do is Google it. Please don't be narrow minded and believe this guy without asking questions

[@conversationnation1425]

Produce and example

[@jacobc9221]

If god can create himself, than why can't the universe do the same?

[@itszain6317]

When did he claim god created himself? Ya'll putting words into our mouth and jumping to conclusions

[@zubairmohammed1264]

our god didnt create himself though

[@jacobc9221]

@@zubairmohammed1264 Where did god come from then? Nothing, just like I believe the big bang did?

[@jacobc9221]

@@DarthVader99447 The rules of the universe only exist once the universe does.

[@DarthVader99447]

@@jacobc9221 Mate I'm sorry for writing those things, I'm an agnostic right now and I myself am debunking religions these days mate.

[@flamurbedrolli802]

What if there is no EVENT at all . Nothing happened nothing happens and nothing will happen? What if every so called EVENT is always there ? Does this mran that the existence is God?

[@GMFahimMugdho]

The thing is we can only claim within the realm of our knowledge. When we say "It's impossible that nothing created something", we use logic based on a general understanding of the world around us. But as we have strong evidence that the universe started from a very tiny size, we must consider Quantum physics. And within our current understanding of quantum physics, nothing can mean very different. And the logic of general worldview may not be equally applied in the quantum realm. If you understand the previous paragraph, then let's dive into more context. If you boil down the everything that made the universe "something"; you will get both "positive-something" and "negative-something". This can be applied for every fundamental forces and matter. If you sum everything up, you will theoretically get ZERO. That means the universe is not something out of nothing. It's just "one version of NOTHING transformed from another version of NOTHING". Now hold one a second, what about the laws of physics that end up creating galaxies and living beings? We can lucky that we are in a universe whose laws of physics allowed us with a brain capable enough to ask this question. There is a strong possibility of zillions of universe whose laws of nature is different and end up with no lives, no galaxies and no atom at all. As we know now that depending on the nature of quantum inflation, the laws of nature can be different. So it's absolutely not a "Grand Design", but a lucky dice. And we are not privileged about to witness other universes which may potentially be more complex and wonderful than us. Imagine that.

[@guymallett6858]

Mugdho Sapiens well said. I would agree with logical premises 1,2 & 3 but the 4th is surely just a reiteration of the 2nd!

[@agentz8136]

You can have a dialogue about the existence of God on: edialogue.org/

[@conversationnation1425]

So you're logically proving the insufficiency and subjectivity of logic using logic? Seems logical(!)

[@conversationnation1425]

Denying logic to logically refute someone's argument and prove yours is completely honest and logical (!)

[@Aseeeeeloooo]

Assalamu Alaikum, can someone give me the time stamp where he talks about the universe happening by chance?

[@thatwaswild4916]

This is just a 5 minute video, watch it brother (or sister)

[@Farhan_sav]

Full video is important

[@islam12539]

بوركتم

[@deveshsawant3066]

Is there any empirical evidence of God outside quran?

[@zubairmohammed1264]

what u mean.

[@isranoushin5129]

In this video he had not mentioned any verse of quran he gave a simple answer

[@MikeJunior94]

This is just weird. I agree with the argument, that there has to be something uncreated that created everything. (prime mover anyone?). But to conflate that with "God" is to suddenly increase this being to a whole tradition of absurdities.

[@Hallucinatingfreak]

BecomingMike then if you agree with the argument what would you call that ? what is your conclusion ?

[@MikeJunior94]

AK I dont see why I would have to call it anything...

[@Hallucinatingfreak]

Just because you are not interested that does not mean we are not allowed to call it something...nothing logical here you are just not interested or can't see a reason

[@MikeJunior94]

AK I never said I am not interested... and I also did not say you are not allowed to call it something. But by doing so you will conflate a purely philosophical concept with absurd religious traditions. That is something that is invalid and therefore I think it is unreasonable to call this being "God" because of the notions one has when one hears the word "God".

[@Hallucinatingfreak]

Forget GOD from a religious view , try saying what you just said to Plato lol I am just discussing with you nothing serious and i respect your view and actually you talk in a very decent way not like the others that is why I was interested in replying to you, just to clarify before we go on :)

[@abbaslegend9214]

Jaza Kaa Allah

[@rafsanulislamremon3607]

❤️

[@kobanichelsea3740]

I love you brother hamza

[@elliot7205]

It is impossible to think of something that does not exist without relying on previous knowledge if that be the case one cannot think of a creator unless that knowledge was given by the creator.. irrefutable reasoning to conclude rationally the existence of the creator.

[@muhammadabdullahriazbhatti]

But something can create nothing so why can't nothing create something?!

[@abdirahmanhassanmohamud5684]

Actually that made sense

[@George-iv1hi]

No, it does not make any sense

[@abdirahmanhassanmohamud5684]

@@George-iv1hi well it does to me though

[@George-iv1hi]

@@abdirahmanhassanmohamud5684 So give one, irrefutable reason for god.

[@George-iv1hi]

@Skips There is no intelligence, only you try to see one. You have not enough knowledge to judge this sort of things. For primitive humans the nature was full of magic. You are such primitive human, unless you will develop science to explain what you do not understand.

[@George-iv1hi]

@Skips How long do we actually study the universe scientifically? 300, 400 years? The answer you require might come after thousands of years of scientific research, not from any ancient scripts of some mad man havinf hallucinations in a cave. So stop asking stupid questions.

[@fayyazhilal]

Great explanation

[@gage-eegat4788]

God is the truth, he is the beginning and the end, he is our holly savior, our purpose is to share God and acknowledge his reason and existence. I just feel bad for those who don’t believe in God. They couldn’t have been taught by people if the people around them don’t believe in God. Remember our purpose and reason for existence, it is to share God and save them. 🙏✝️

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

As I listen further, I encounter "everything that begins to exist" - the fallacious "Kalam Cosmological Argument" sold to Christians like a con-man pitch by William Lane Craig. It's a cheater's argument. Here's how it works. The first premise says, "Everything that begins to exist has a cause (or a creator). Then comes the switch. It's not very subtle. It relies on the blatant nature of the switch for you to miss it. Let's see if you catch it. Premise two says, "The universe and everything it in exists." Conclusion, "Therefore, the universe has a cause (or creator.)" Whoa, hold on. At what point did "begins to exists" become "exists?" And why did it have to be switched? The original KCA has the premise, "Everything that exists has a cause (or creator)." The big failing of that wording is, as soon as you conclude, "Therefore, the universe and everything in it has a creator" you have invited the obvious question, "If everything that exists has a creator and that means there is a creator, it also means the creator has a creator.? So who created the creator?" From there you are off to an infinite regression of creators. By doing the modern word-switch of Premise One "begins to exist" stating Premise Two with just the word "exists" the second premise has locked out the past, the time before the universe began to exist. If you don't see the switch, you can swallow the false conclusion. Most magic tricks work on the same principle of distraction. Now you see why all arguments that lack a foundation of objectively verifiable evidence are a waste of time The true test of reality is, all things (and forces) that you can honestly assert to exist can be supported by objectively verifiable evidence. Can you name any single thing or force that exists in this world for which there is no objectively verifiable evidence? Do you have objectively verifiable evidence for the existence of a god?

[@omarcedrati5584]

Watch again you are almost there

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

@@omarcedrati5584 sorry, I don't understand what and why you are asking. Please elaborate?

[@omarcedrati5584]

For me the existence of God is an obvious truth, people who claim the contrary should bring evidence for the non-existence of a Creator fine tuning and sustaining us and the universe. The probability that all of existence is random is negative :) would you bet all you have in your bank account with such odds? are you ready to gamble your afterlife on such a small tiny micro probability?

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

@@omarcedrati5584 I do agree that people who make claims of any kind have the burden of proof for their claim. Unless I misunderstand your comment, you claim that a god exists. If you do, do you have objectively verifiable evidence for the existence of a god?

[@blastortoise]

@@omarcedrati5584 But we can see the universe isn't fine tuned for life, if it were then why is it so hard for us to get to another planet and set up civilization there? Why aren't there more humans anywhere else or hell at least some sort of species equal to humans, you state: "The probability that all existance is random is negative :)" which you have no evidence for, and doesn't prove god anyways because the big bang isn't "teh random explosion" if you shut off your brain when something remotely hard is brought up then you're going to be left in the bronze age like you already are.

[@denisrybnicky7896]

I Think Some...People Are Getting Toooooooo Far Away With This...

[@jacobc9221]

If you rule out the 2nd option, then the 4th option is *also* invalid. Ruling out the 3rd option has no problem, though. But the 1st option means that the universe equals 0, but there's matter, so the only way this could be possible is some of it is negative, and some positive. Such as 10 to the power of 9999999999999999 atoms plus negative 10 to the power of 9999999999999999 atoms equals 0 atoms. The other options have been ruled out, (agreed on by me and the video) so the most plausible answer is number 1. Of course, I could be wrong and perhaps it has a 5th option. But since there's no indicator, so it's best to just keep an open mind.

[@waalaikumsalam.]

how can something that doesnt exist make itself. Something uncreateble is something that cant be created so how can it creat itself if it is uncreateble. How can something come from nothing, and how can something exist and not exist on the same time.

[@jacobc9221]

@@waalaikumsalam. How can a god that wasn't created by anything else create themself?

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@jacobc9221 did i say that he creat himself?no. but if god is maded by something, than that god is the reason, but with atheist logic, than it will only be infinite.

[@jacobc9221]

@@waalaikumsalam. I'm saying that if the universe has to come from something, then so does a god. Therefore, that argument is not valid. It is not atheist logic, it is an atheist applying the Christian logic of an argument against the big bang but against an all-powerful god.

[@waalaikumsalam.]

@@jacobc9221 but explain how something can be created without time and space.

[@rachidelmhaoud7199]

ahih International: They know what is apparent of the worldly life, but they, of the Hereafter, are unaware.

[@yanis7440]

How can we use the same logic that rules the laws of nature which are present in our universe to describe the creation of the universe itself? It's a weak argument for the existence of god...

[@abdullahalotaibi2462]

It is an easy answer: because the universe with the sophistication of it in a molecular level or the cellular level to the whole bodies of animals and the whole environmental dependence and correlations shows nothing but a wisdom of the creator. That is what we see from small particles to the whole world around us including the orbits and the distancing between sun and earth, and the other fine tuned measure which allowed life on earth also show the creator wisdom. Simply, if anyone were to ask what is the evidence for Allah? The answer is tremendous: (Everything) including the laws of the universe. Nothing has no correlation to being an evidence for Allah. However, the person who is asking for an evidence is a troubled person! Because it is like asking for an evidence of the existing of sun while it is shining and its light and heat in on your skin!!! Trying to explain the obvious and indisputable things is one of the hardest tasks ever! Even though everyone can easily know the sun exists, a person questioning its existence or its truth might need a deep philosophical and scientific reasoning which might include topics like gravity and energy etc, only to prove to him that this sun is real and not made up by say for example government agenda projector! Same applies to Allah’s existence, he is the truth and so clear that atheistic question not only that is dumb, but it is hard to explain for their ongoing questioning of the obvious

[@ebbyoma7008]

Something being uncreated does not in any way imply it is "knowing", (it implies powerfulness, transcendence, and eternalness, but not knowingness) so your assertion that that uncreated thing is God is incorrect.

[@conversationnation1425]

Uncreated means independent of and superior to all that is created. If it had limits in knowledge that would mean something could possibly have higher knowledge than it, which would make it potentially dependent, inferior, and therefore created.

[@ebbyoma7008]

Conversation Nation Conversation Nation Conversation Nation I don’t see how what u said explains that the uncreated is knowing. Let me ask it a different way: how do we know that it is not random? How are we so sure that there is intention behind it? In addition, I’m not implying that the uncreated has “limits in knowledge”, I’m asking how do we even know that it is a knowledgeable entity in the first place? Just because it created everything doesn’t mean it is knowledgeable about its creation. It’s creation could have occurred RANDOMLY, without any “knowledgeableness” behind it necessarily.

[@conversationnation1425]

@@ebbyoma7008 Look, when a couple makes a baby, they don't have to have encompassing scientific knowledge of the whole process of a baby being developed and born. They just manipulate a functionality in the physical world and that results with a baby. But when a Creator makes the entire possible natural process, determines the laws upon which all this process takes place, and when He makes all this from nothing - you expect Him to have full knowledge of his creation. Because he is the one who brought it all into being while *it was not there*, so all potential it possibly contains is from the knowledge of the Creator. Therefore he has ultimate knowledge of all that He created. Since He himself, being its originator, is the determinator of its limits.

[@ebbyoma7008]

Conversation Nation I’m sorry, but the reasonings u give, “[the] Creator makes the entire natural process” “[the Creator] makes all from nothing” “[the Creator] brought it all into being *while it was not there*” “[the Creator themself] being the originator” are not statements/ premises that support the claim that the Creator is a knowledgeable entity. Why? Because they have no connection whatsoever to the knowledgeableness of the creator. You’ve only connected those statements to knowledgeableness of the creator through ASSUMPTION, which is not actual reasoning. The 1st and last statements are premises/ evidence towards the Creator’s all- powerfulness ONLY. The middle 2 statements are premises/ evidence to the Creator’s all- powerfulness and eternalness ONLY. The existence of “the Creator” and “the created” necessarily implies and acts as evidence/ premise for transcendence ONLY. None of the premises you mention point to anything about the Creators knowledgeableness. Here’s what you’re doing: you’re assuming that just because it’s the creator of everything and the originator, that it MUST have access to knowledge, and that assumption would be incorrect, because “the Creator being the ultimate source of knowledge” does not imply “the Creator being knowledgeable themself” (read those previous 17 words again (starting from “because....”), because that is the takeaway in this long comment of why ur argument is invalid) Yes the Creator created the laws of the universe, but that does not point to the Creator THEMSELF being knowledgeable about those laws...... at all. Those laws could have very well come together without a master mind/ an intelligence/ a consciousness/ a knowledgeableness behind it. Let’s look specifically at the argument you’re making in your second to last paragraph: Premise 1: [the Creator] brought [all things] into being Premise 2: [the Creator] is the source of all knowledge Conclusion: [the Creator] is knowledgeable. Premises + conclusion = argument. There must be 2 or more premises in an argument. For an argument to be valid, the premises must a) be accurate and b) necessarily lead to the conclusion when all are considered. In this argument, both premises are accurate, so they meet the criteria for a). But the premises don’t lead to the conclusion, therefore they don’t meet b) and therefore your attempt to conclude/ prove that the Creator is a knowledgeable being has failed. Bad argument. Here’s an example of a good argument: 1 Socrates is a human 2 All humans are mortal Conclusion: Socrates is mortal. You see how logically premise 1 and premise 2 necessarily lead to that conclusion? The argument u made in the second to last paragraph doesn’t do that; your premises and conclusion are disconnected from each other, and are not linked in the way that this argument’s premises and conclusion are linked to each other. U need to Fix that for it to be a valid argument. ---- Hopefully now u can see why ur reasoning is not actually reasoning but merely assumption.

[@conversationnation1425]

@@ebbyoma7008 ... how can you *create* something, out of nothing, be the source of all its existing and potential attributes... and not have full knowledge of that thing at the same time. How can you CREATE it but not fully understand it. This is not even worth being called a paradox... it's outright nonsensical gibberish.

[@anirudhhariharan9543]

If,for every creation there is a creator (god), then who is the creator of creator (god of gods) who created the creator(god)..? If some people argue that creator created himself.. then going by the same logic why can't the creation get created itself..? If God really existed,Why did he create some species to be eaten, and some to eat, what Sin did the species that are being eaten commit.? Why should he create a food chain? Every day millions of species are dying horrific deaths due to this type of creation.. could such god exist.? Again if someone argues that humans are born as a lower animal in their next birth due to his sins he committed... Then my argument would be "there are zillions of species" but humans are only in billions..! This nature's law is "might is right" Hence,This world was not created.. it evolved.!

[@thegamerzhubofficial]

First Know What Is God? The God Is The Supreme One, The First And The Last, Uncreated Existing Without Having Been Created. But His Existing Show, In Law Of Nature, In Creation Of The Origin Of Life. The Everliving, Beyond Of The Mind's Of Human Comprehension. Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

[@inderjitsingh2383]

This doesn’t make sense cuz then how did god get created did he come from nothing??

[@zubairmohammed1264]

if hes above time and space he doesn't need to be created.

[@RocketDRA]

Only a gullible person would BELIEVE such incredible claims, Deffend your imaginary friend, we will ACCEPT you and LOVE you.... But DONT claim to know all the answers to the hardest questions we can ask.

[@woody7652]

Either God or the Universe came from nothing. Considering the Universe is real and here, and God isn't, I think it's safe to say it's the Universe. How come your creator always gets to be there but whatever natural process that created the universe can't be?

[@conversationnation1425]

If God had come from nothing, he wouldn't be God, he would be a created thing.

[@conversationnation1425]

And what created the "whatever natural process that created the universe"? That question remains unanswered.

[@woody7652]

@@conversationnation1425 ​ If god came from nothing he would not be created, that is the opposite of creation.

[@woody7652]

What created the mountain, what creates a snowflake? You said it a natural process.

[@conversationnation1425]

@@woody7652 What created the natural process?

[@JazzyArtKL]

From nothing, nothing come is already false. We simply do not have enough understanding of what happened at the Big Bang, so trying to reason that with now enough knowledge is a fallacy in itself. It's like...I dont understand, therefor God. God of the gaps argument.

[@JazzyArtKL]

@Honor Exactly. If you don't know the answer, you investigate and find evidence. Your answer should be up till that time "we don't know". You get that, right? Not knowing should never lead to making up stuff without evidence and that's where religion differs from science. How's that, my friend.

[@lordabz3161]

@@JazzyArtKL what if the evidence is the quran and the prophet.

[@abdullahalmaruf9706]

See Jim Khalili's vedio-"Something from nothing."

[@hossainmdabdullah7313]

im a muslim but still, this video explains WHY ALLAH HAS NO BEGINNING 100% m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKrKgqN5pNyUd80

[@MrJMont21]

Sounds like a laying down of the primary foundation of the Jahmites; their doctrine of the impossibility of an infinite series of past events.

[@3GHee4erwer]

Theyre not wrong in this manner.

[@ahmedmohiuddin4567]

How do you know that the uncreated cause is is conscious and self aware

[@polite.cat.has.playlists]

Yes, it is necessary for this creation to have an uncreated cause or thing. But that cause/thing might be unconscious such as the universe itself. And another probability is that there might be a conscious being that is self-aware and has will and intelligence. So, how can we prove that the whole creation has a conscious being? First of all, Look at the fine-tuning of the universe and cosmos. Everything is engineered in a complex way. But can someone assume that all of these tunings are a coincidence? It's a stupid thing to believe. There must be a being with intelligence and will who tuned and made all of this. And we know that being as Allah in Arabic and God in English.