Heydrich arrives in America - The Man in the High Castle S1E8

Obergruppenführer John Smith receives an unexpected guest from Germany: Oberstgruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich. Arriving unannounced so as to avoid a hero's welcome, Heydrich inquires about the assassination attempt on Smith's life. After being asked about the real reason why he is in the American Reich, Heydrich explains that he has come to take Rudolph Wegener into custody. As Heydrich takes his coffee, Smith notices that Hauptsturmführer Connolly seems unusually familiar with "the man with the iron heart".

[@en6064]

In every futuristic Nazi scenario I see, no mention is made of the extermination of the Slavic peoples. It is always either the Jews or blacks. I am not denying the particular tragedy that faced the Jewish people during the war, but it would be nice if the millions of Slavs murdered received recognition too

[@en6064]

@@krzysztofkowalski6681 Just because the Nazis made use of Slavic collaborators does not mean that they did not want to ethnically cleanse them. People forget that Germany's main goal was not the cliche of conquering the world. Their primary objective was to make a vast eastern empire and gain Lebensraum, or living space, in the east. According to Generalplan Ost, millions of Slavs would eventually be starved, murdered, or deported

[@en6064]

@@krzysztofkowalski6681 These policies were carried out. Have you ever heard of the ethnic cleansing of Zamojszczyzna? Over 100,000 Poles were ejected from their homes to make room for German settlers, and this was only a very incomplete version of the plan

[@en6064]

@@krzysztofkowalski6681 I think it is also worth remembering that the Nazis killed millions of Slavs in non-combat related scenarios In Poland and Belarus they often arbitrarily murdered Slavs at will.

[@en6064]

@@krzysztofkowalski6681 RONA brigade was involved in the Warsaw Uprising, in which the Nazis killed 200,000 Poles, mostly civilians

[@en6064]

@@otiscarter1356 I'm curious as to the context of this comment lol??

[@robj362]

For anyone wondering, John deduced that since RH was on a "surprise visit", yet the captain knew exactly how many cubes he prefers

[@tomb7088]

The Captain's excuse was reasonable.

[@ChrisCoombes]

I thought it was because he wondered if it had poison

[@AaronHungwell]

But he only used two?

[@balabanasireti]

​@@tomb7088 No

[@balabanasireti]

​@@AaronHungwell So?

[@MidnightStrikesTabby]

Imagine you be chillin in the office, being a general and shit. Then your aid busts in like the damn gestapo and says the butcher of Prague is at your doorstep

[@Pioneer_DE]

The Blonde beast, the butcher of Prague, the man with the ironheart....

[@lonniedaniels125]

In actual history heydrich got whacked.

[@MidnightStrikesTabby]

@@lonniedaniels125 exactly, good riddance

[@Wrz2e]

It do be like that tho

[@joshfindlay6283]

@@lonniedaniels125 Czech resistance blew him up.

[@HaydenLau.]

Reinhardt suggests they go hunting because historically, many hunting accidents involve very powerful people, very suspiciously

[@skandakumar2457]

Cheney's gotta gun

[@Orgruk]

@@skandakumar2457 Oh sure, we're still laughing about the infamous quail hunt. Boom, in the face!

[@danijelujcic8644]

@@skandakumar2457 nice one

[@Hilts931]

I assumed he didn’t mean animals but maybe you’re right!

[@CesarGarcia-nd5xz]

Hahaha yeah. Like "what the hell happened!?" "The deer also had a gun"

[@weirdshibainu]

Heydrich was ruthless in real life. He had files on everyone, including Himmler. He was known as an excellent fencer and oddly possessing a high, thin voice that some had mocked him for behind his back.

[@just8310]

He died horribly didn't he so let's just forget he ever existed shall we

[@dstro899]

​@just8310 that would literally be the worst thing that you could possibly do.

[@edmoore1661]

He was also a sex maniac who was well known in all the brothels in Berlin. Man liked to knock the boots.

[@johngnipper8768]

@@dstro899 it is impossible to erase what we find unpleasant ,as it should be .

[@MrErizid]

@@just8310 Yeah, he got wounded by a grenade in an assassination attempt and died weeks later in pain the entire time.

[@Bergen98]

Heydrich is what I would call: a forgotten monster. I don't remember we were ever told about him in school, and I studied in Russia - we cover WW2 extensively. The man was one of the main forces behind Holocaust, a despotic tyrant with no consideration for human life. Thank god for those brave Czechoslovakians

[@badexampleshow6744]

I saw a fantastic comment once "Monsters like Heydrich are born to every generation, they must be guarded against. "

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

@@badexampleshow6744 they are usually the most unlikeliest person to suspect too.

[@jackcade68]

Any novice that studied history knows the name Heydrich Reinhardt. Of course, I was schooled in England, so.

[@leobertan.classic]

agree, he was probably the worst nazi that ever lived

[@benconrad5127]

@@jackcade68 I think the main reason he's overlooked is because he died before he could do that much damage

[@edwardobambino]

The actors they cast to play the older versions of hitlers inner circle could not have been better

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

Yeah it's as if they took them directly from Argentina or something lol

[@andrewpestotnik5495]

@@PRubin-rh4sr 😅😅😅😅😅

[@jonparton5082]

I was really hoping to see an older goring. I vaguely remember hearing he was executed .....shame.

[@beornkhan2736]

But he sounds french

[@Rostov_red_beard]

Was thinking the opposite

[@miguelleite3510]

02:22 in the time when John Smith discovers that the captain is working with Heydrich

[@euanshanks]

Thanks for pointing that out. I did wonder.

[@monmonfiasco6391]

fk no wonder he push him on the building roof

[@MrJetMango]

@@monmonfiasco6391 do explain why he discovered that in this scene?

[@IanB3rry]

⁠@@MrJetMangohe knew exactly how Heydrich liked his coffee despite supposedly not ever meeting with him or knowing him.

[@EmperorWolfenacht]

I love how they emphasize the sugars so early, telling that the Captain that frequents johns room was helping Hydrich

[@Lord_Pilaf]

To those who don't know who Reinhard Heydrich was, he was a top ranking Nazi officer and was extremely cruel, even among other Nazis. He was known as "The Butcher of Prague" and was one of the men put in charge of exterminating the Jews and other "undesirables" from Europe.

[@RaptorJesus]

There was also a saying in Germany, "Himmlers Hirn heisst Heydrich". Himmler's brain is named Heydrich.

[@clairestark9024]

He was a piece a shit even by the standards of the nazis.

[@Brecconable]

@@clairestark9024 He was no where near as disturbing as Lavrentiy Beria.

[@No-bi3pb]

@@Brecconable you are correct. But he is evil nonetheless

[@postmastersgt1670]

Heydrich was a dedicated Nazi far more than most in the Party.

[@ristube3319]

Couldn’t have found a better actor to play this part. Kinda hits all the points perfectly.

[@kellypaws]

He’s good. But he basically reprised Christophe Waltz as Hans Landa.

[@maxhill9254]

@@kellypaws I would not say so. This actor is way more reserved than Hans Landa.

[@brucethomson3242]

William L. Shirer in his book on the Third Reich described Heydrich as a man of diabolical cast and that really shows here. Huge props to this actor for that steely glare and a total lack of empathy emanating from him.

[@scotthutchins6035]

The greatest book written about Nazi Germany, luckily I read the Guns of August prior to Shirer and it really completed the picture of Germanic war culture.

[@salvadorvillegas3569]

@brucethomson3242 : ¿Y vos ya le creíste a un judío? y encima te comes un estereotipo hollywoodense .....

[@dr.mungusphd.3162]

4 sugars in a cup of coffee is a war crime all by itself.

[@danielallan8061]

You've never drank and iced coffee beverage?

[@oldsouth31]

Not going to lie....those uniforms are pretty sharp.

[@craigporter8873]

That's Hugo Boss for you.

[@jmstowe]

Yes, The Krauts/Huns had many very sharp-looking uniforms.

[@maxhalsted5381]

@@craigporter8873 agreed. Most Poeple have no idea how connected Hugo boss and nazi party was. The company was we know it buildt by his sons in 50s. Hugo boss was a early member of nazi party who got exclusive no bif contacts to make the SS uniforms and became very wealthy. It is noteworthy to say Hugo was not a committed nazi. He saw a shortcut to financial success and he was a opportunist

[@maxhalsted5381]

@@jmstowe hugo boss made all the SS uniforms

[@Drache191200]

Their Offices are pretty nice too

[@catman351]

Let's just say I'm glad this alternate universe never existed. Heydrich was a monster and thank God for his Czechoslovakian assassins, more didn't have to die.

[@semicron5159]

Not to mention this universe is near implausible. Nazi Germany may have had good generals and highly motivated troops but the Allies had endless resources and would of won eventually even if they lost many more battles.

[@carlosquintero5555]

hahahahahahahahahaha

[@DeweyMcStewey]

@@semicron5159 the Allies didn't have endless resources in this Universe. The US never recovered from the Great Depression so was unable to fund the Allied war effort leading to Axis victory.

[@semicron5159]

@@DeweyMcStewey To be fair, the US only recovered from the Great Depression in our reality because of its participation in WWII. Plot armor for the win.

[@maxmuller302]

@@colderbeer haha....idiot

[@johnking5174]

One thing I like is how they got the pitch of the voice of Heydrich correct, as he had a higher pitched voice than the other Nazi leaders. Other films have him speaking in a lower tone, which was not correct.

[@marshmallowbudgie]

0:15 "Heydrich has breached the perimeter and is making his way up the building"

[@localvtboy679]

I love how he speaks to Heydrich like he's his equal or old friend.(2:54)

[@schimmelfennig726]

actually they carry the same rank 😅

[@localvtboy679]

Oh good to know😁

[@schimmelfennig726]

@@localvtboy679 Don´t forget at this time John Smith is the SS Commander of the entire Nazi-US

[@Governor2310]

@@schimmelfennig726 at this point in time smith was an SS-obergruppenfuhrer, heydrich was an SS-oberstgruppenfuhrer. An obergrupenfuhrer was the equivalent to a 3 star general and an oberstgruppenfuhrer was the equivalent to a 4 star general. Heydrich was superior in rank

[@Brecconable]

@@Governor2310 Agreed. If you notice the collar badges John has 2 diamonds, Heydrich as 3.

[@mikeym1479]

"I've rented a cottage in East Hampton" that's how you know he's really evil

[@maricate]

KZbin subtitles: over scrupulous heydrich has just entered the building

[@gemmeliusgrammaticus2509]

“always grouping cure, what a surprise. .”

[@mephistosteiner8064]

The way he said "You forget with whome you speaking." No emotion, no threat, pure sociopath. I realy love this scene!

[@tylerzika]

2:45 it can’t be a coincidence that sugar cubes where invented in the Czech Republic and that is where Heydrich was killed 🤯

[@TheManOnTheHill]

"you forget with whom you're speaking...." Holy fuck tant instant.

[@Praveen_Raaj]

Great acting by Rufus Sewell.. 👌

[@gayan2517]

How many cubes of sugar is considered normal without arousing suspicion?? He could have just placed 4 cubes and the fellow might use them all. Perhaps this could have been thought through better.

[@victordonavon292]

Well think about it. One that's a small cup (not exactly something that you would stuff more than one sugar cube in and sugar cubes are larger than they appear from a distance). Two the fact that only precisely four cubes of sugar were there and were in perfect alignment and row with one another rather than in say a sugar bowl. Three, please note the tension and diction of the characters involved that indicates a power struggle. Nonverbal communication exceeds 85% of all communication. Four, please take into account the history of Heydrich Reinhard who as noted in the show was even called by Adolf Hitler, "The Man With the Iron Heart." And that was not without reason. Each component by themselves perhaps speaks little. But together they produce powerful variables that gives a vivid picture. So yes the storyline here was thought out well and the suspicion on the part of John Smith was extremely warranted.

[@DavidSylvester7]

@@okolona1 The server didn't ask because the server knew beforehand exactly how Reinhard took his tea. Its revealed later in another scene. He was in on the plot with Heindrick ultimately supporting the overthrow of Hitler.

[@scottm8292]

0 - 2 cubes

[@davidsummer8631]

Here in the UK normally a cup of tea will come with two cubes of sugar. But in a very formal setting after the tea has been served the server might ask if more sugar is required.

[@modelcitizen72]

Imagine the mass murderer wanting four cubes of sugar in that little-ass cup.

[@Davionious]

Guess Kenneth Branagh wasn't available.

[@kilted911]

Kenneth Branagh's portrayal was equally chilling.

[@UncleBearski]

Irritating that Smith would be referred to by his rank of Obergruppenfuhrer yet Connolly is called "Captain" instead of the correct Hauptsturmfuhrer. Also "Major" Klem.

[@rogerwilco2]

Yes, I wondered about that as well, but maybe it is because he is German?

[@okidokiliteratureclub706]

Almost as if those terms were interchangeable and meant the same rank hmmmm

[@UncleBearski]

@@okidokiliteratureclub706 If it were a thing to refer an officer of the American Reich by an equivalent rank in a then non-existent US Army then why wasn't Smith referred to as "general"??

[@davidhutchinson5233]

To even imagine that Heydrich would be alive is enough to make one nauseous. That bastard was so f'in evil. So cruel.

[@MeemingStar]

Not really, he wasn’t a sadist who took pleasure in his work like Amon Göth and concentration camp guards, what set him apart was his uncaringness, he did his work with brutal efficiency and didn’t bat an eye, like he was simply fumigating a barn, it was simply his job and he did it better than anyone. That’s why they called him the man with the iron heart.

[@adamfaturrachman8957]

I always find it fascinating how Smith, a US Marine Major when the war is over, managed to not only climb the rank ladder really fast (a Major in 1947, a Lieutenant General in 1968) but also befriended with and trusted by many of the Nazi central powers inner circle who has ruled the world since he was only a Major.

[@notanikdey]

He was a captain in the Army and I think he advanced pretty fast because they must have had to purge the majority of the flag/general officers when they capitulated America

[@jordnchn7907]

@@notanikdey yah, and some ss officers who were liked by hitler and himmler had similar promotions. He probs participated or helped the nazi's purge alot of his own officers or something along those lines, He mentions as such with Wegener in another scene in S1

[@gbonkers666]

if it were a surprise visit, how did Connolly know that RH takes four sugars...unless RH told him about his visit beforehand.

[@alexfish3120]

All of those toys and ceremonial gear they slapped on the uniforms takes away from the unnerving esthetic of the WW2 uniforms, the tailoring and darkness of the uniform are not visible through the inappropriately worn aiguillette, parade belt and the armband

[@bugwar5545]

For you. For the rest of us, it is 'the rule of cool'.

[@DixieBanjo]

No uniform will ever come close to the greatness.

[@derlenx1097]

You got any business you want to tell us about Dixie?

[@NiekKuijpers]

@@derlenx1097 you cant like their uniforms without being a nazi yourself? Wow how ignorant

[@koriko88]

The German uniforms have always been regarded as pretty spiffy even of everything else about them sucked.

[@okidokiliteratureclub706]

@@koriko88 I'd say what they wore fits their ideology. Imposing, pretentious, militaristic, and regal/civilized. Just like their uniforms. They knew what's up when they came up with their unis.

[@forest8779]

Do you use the Nazi flag as a dildo too OP? 🤮

[@thebullmoose8316]

I see The Anthropoid survived.

[@devilpupbear09]

For now

[@brunostiglitz7535]

his recovered from the infections to his wounds lol

[@forest8779]

Great movie 👏🏻

[@pac1fic055]

@@brunostiglitz7535I guess in this timeline there was no assassination attempt.

[@jiricirtek8160]

Hold on there Mister H, as a true czech I got to pay you a visit

[@diegoramirez7901]

Heydrich drinking tea with sugar cubes, a Czech invention, it's a subtle thing

[@demam41]

“I’m surprised myself sir” - ehh no you’re not

[@tacitus6384]

I really think that whoever played Heydrich was very miscast. The actual Heydrich was quite tall and athletic and had a distinctly cold and masculine persona, not some average heighted pudgy guy with mannerisms of someone in the closet. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a monster, but what should have essentially be the Darth Vader of the Greater Reich came off instead as an effete, uptight snob.

[@mauriziomalet9538]

Yeah , the real Heydrich was like 192 cm and a great swimmer and Athlete , the first time I watched the show I was expecting a much more intimidating man

[@enumaelis1448]

Yeah but this is supposedly a much older Heydrich, thus he wouldn’t carry the same physical appearance as his younger self, perhaps besides height

[@mauriziomalet9538]

@@enumaelis1448 probably , but the actor is just not right for the job

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

he did have an effeminate voice though, and he was often bullied in his younger years for that voice

[@Modernhumanbeing]

You have a point. But honesty as an average viewer I don’t care about that all I care about is the fact that that dude acting was so unbelievably good to the point that I was actually intimidated by him. He even paid me a little visit in my nightmares 😂

[@peterrodby2786]

I want to see an episode of Heydrich meeting Meyer Lansky.

[@Isus666999]

Heydrich has been played brllliantly. Rh3 whole scene is excellent

[@marcelophof4516]

Reminds me of Michael Corleone visiting frank pantengali in Godfather. 2

[@tomwotton9]

It’s a tv show there’s no way he can get to me so why am I so afraid of that man?!

[@erwinrommel9294]

I mean to be fair what if the actor is evil 😂

[@phuttig1944]

"Don't let that man near our children"...John's parting words to his wife

[@ristube3319]

If Heydrich isn’t the quintessential, power crazed, and altogether creepy Nazi official, I don’t know who is.

[@marcdonato9322]

Oskar Dirlewanger...

[@AlexandriaLibraryGame]

That's a Bingo!

[@YourCorvus]

The Butcher Lives. The Black Sun Rises. Earth Will Burn.

[@AutisticSoyDaddy]

Wonderfully put.

[@robbieodonovan44]

0:30 One of history's most infamous serial killers, the Butcher of Prague

[@jimeagle5509]

No handshakes. You could feel the glass almost breaking in that scene.

[@GamerNobre]

''nothing is more inportant than family'' Bandolero starts

[@thorpeaaron1110]

To those wondering what happened to Reinhard in our world he was killed by Czechoslovak partisans in 1942.

[@scottm8292]

Czechslovak en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Reinhard_Heydrich

[@thorpeaaron1110]

@@scottm8292 Oh ok my mistake

[@Kxzvr]

He could have been glad that it wasn't Amon Göth! 💀

[@robbieodonovan44]

This guy in real life was like the Darth Vader to Hitlers's Palpatine

[@Fadzi2342]

Himmler's brain sure is impeccably dressed.

[@tiffles3890]

Judging from what I've seen and heard about the real Heydrich, I doubt he smiled this much or was this conversational in general.

[@Balnazzardi]

Perhaps not but ppl can change over time....and secondly this isnt supposed to be realistic but good/entertaining show

[@tiffles3890]

@@Balnazzardi Even a cartoon can be just entertaining, so then why even bother to create quasi-believable high drama?

[@Balnazzardi]

@@tiffles3890 well high quality dramas like Game of Thrones (for most part anyway it was high quality), Westworld, and so many others are pure fiction and yet so very enjoyable...not every good drama series has to be firmly set on "reality/realism" you know? 😄 you sound like my cousin, he cant stand to watch any movies or series based on fiction, whether its fantasy or scifi....

[@tiffles3890]

​@@Balnazzardi When did I indicate that I dislike fiction? None of the dramas you mention portray IRL figures in the first place, leave alone portraying them incongruently, making your point nonsensical. Don't give such idiot takes in my mentions again.

[@Balnazzardi]

@@tiffles3890 well dude, in case you didnt know, Man in the High Castle is pure fiction/scifi as well that just happens to use historical characters in completely non realistic "what if" scenario....Heck I would understand your complaints if this was some even remotely grounded to "realism" series but its not....its pure scifi

[@danielallan8061]

The way he sips and swallows that coffee is weirding me out for some reason.

[@o-hogameplay185]

i can only say what i was saying in an other video: "imagine being able to conquer the states, having the world's best army with large amounts of nuclear bombs, and all of sudden you lose it all to citizens of amerika. same with japan but without nuclear weapons (or i would say with only 1.). great series, but both the germans, both the japanese were shown as weak and incompetent. reminds me of the first order from star wars. in this timeline, the partizans could have almost no success, since neither empires were in war, so could use large number of policemen or army against them. and dont forget that they were dictatorships, thed "did not need to follow the law" when investigating a crime. i really would like to watch a movie or series about an alternative history, where the "good" is defeated. just like infinite war."

[@florinivan6907]

The series really went downhill the more you learned about it. Japan having this much difficulty in building the bomb is absurd. Granted the original novel is from 1962 at the time it was assumed that building the bomb is a process that only the most advanced economies could achieve. Otherwise you would have to steal the data.

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@florinivan6907 according to mark felton, both germany and japan were on the path to build a bomb. They could enrich uranium to 20-30%. For bomb they would need ~80%. A few more years and they would make ot too. My biggest problem is that the empires are incompetent (especially japan). They get overwelmed by some rebells. And even the rebells somewoh got better equipment, and very successfull, even without a millitiary leadership, and without any of proper millitiary personel. While japan has a ton of experienced leaders, and soldiers that are fought in a war. Remember, the war is still on in china at some levels. Even if japan changed, and less brutal, they csn not leave all the resources that can be obtined from amerika. And at the end the nazis just sayig: "well, we were nazis for 30 years, lets change it" what?! Even if a small group wants to change the reich, the same thing would happen as the walkürye in our time line. And some thing that are minor problems for me: nazis calling themselves nazis. I think it is obvious ehy it is a problem. 2.: The japanese navy should consist mostly of carriers, and not battleships. Yeah, jamato looks cool, but it is roughly useless in combat

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@HelghastStalker exactly

[@joeneedstosleep]

They really should have made a bigger deal out of the factors that forced Japan's withdrawal, i.e. perpetual insurgency in China and the inherently unsustainable logistics of maintaining an imperial state on the opposite side of the Pacific from their home territory. (In real life, they were already stretching themselves to the edge of effectiveness when they attacked Pearl Harbor.) As for the Nazis, we see some political splintering and infighting - essentially the monster turning on itself and eating itself alive a little bit - but arguably even by the end of the series, they haven't really "lost." They divvy up the Reich into separate but cooperating states.

[@IanandIdaDroneAdventures]

so it all came down to the 4 sugar cubes......

[@scottm8292]

That was a hint.

[@Lautismo]

Now, I know the germans did some pretty bad stuff during the 2nd world war, but, those uniforms were pretty slick, you gotta admit.

[@BigManTommyB]

tru

[@maxhalsted5381]

Their uniforms were made and designed by Hugo Boss

[@logicsfinest3471]

@@maxhalsted5381 Not many people know that. Hitler asked Hugo Boss for the best looking uniforms in the world, and he absolutely delivered.

[@fluffy1931]

only in your fantasy dude. The uniform variant in use at the start of the war was the M1936 pattern . This had replaced the old World War I-style and Weimar Republic-style uniforms (M1920 and M1928) in the mid-1930s, when the German Army expanded massively after Hitler effectively tore up the remaining provisions of the Versailles Treaty. And No Hugo Boss had nothing to do with any uniforms of the Heer. As the war progressed, greater economies were introduced due to the ever-growing shortages of materials and labour. The first practical result was the introduction of the M1943 Uniform, made up of a tunic, trousers and shirt. The tunic became a deeper gray, had six buttons, the pleats on the pockets were removed, it was cut less full, the skirts were shortened and the dark green facings were finally fully removed. Artificial linen or cotton liners gave way to artificial silk or viscose and the materials were generally of inferior quality and became shabbier, quicker. The M1936 Greatcoat was really a relic of the old Prussian military tradition of a smart long coat, unsuited to the demands of modern warfare.

[@fluffy1931]

@@logicsfinest3471 only in your fantasy dude.

[@KingKimwer]

Another amazing show with a horrible ending

[@imadequate3376]

Weird, Hydreich was assassinated in '42 by Czech resistance operators trained by the SOE. How did they work him not dying into the story? I should watch this show...

[@scottm8292]

In this timeline, Operation Anthropoid either failed or never happened.

[@martinlaird4738]

@@scottm8292 for the greater good ;)

[@urdnotwrex6969]

Czechoslovakian agents named Kubiš who was Czech and Gabčík who was Slovak.

[@julioossandon3823]

That Reinhardt had files and even telephone conversations of every leader in Germany at that time. Every time a boss showed "sympathy" for an ethnic group that was not German, he marked them as "potential saboteurs." And to think that before Hitler's rise to power he was a sailor, but because of a love affair, where he promised everything to the daughter of a high-ranking officer, and then repudiated her in favor of his former wife, that fact meant his discharge and retirement from the Kriegsmarine.

[@pakhanmisha3296]

I'm playing thousand week reich right now where I'm Gothenland. Basically he makes his own purified kingdom in Crimea and parts out of ukraine naming it the black pearl. He truly is the God of Death.

[@scottm8292]

Ok.

[@jdools4744]

That sounds dumb

[@isgoodovsubhuman1972]

I love it!

[@zaicanna96]

So he didn't die in their timeline either

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

He died in our timeline, he was assassinated in 1942 by Czech agents, though the attempt initially failed Heydrich developed a blood infection from wounds he sustained and died a few weeks later.

[@nigelft]

@@MikeJones-qn1gz Indeed ... In fact, the irony was that, even for someone of his status within the SS, penicillin could not be found, meant he died from, iirc, septicaemia, which would now be easily treated with a course of IV antibiotics ...

[@brad5426]

@@nigelft The times we live in now sound crazy.

[@nigelft]

@@brad5426 Indeed they are ... "May You Live in Interesting Times" ... ... have never figured out if that is a blessing ... or a curse ...

[@ImmoralKoala]

@@nigelft you just discovered ellipses or something? you seem to like using them lol

[@CitizenOfTheWorld34]

One of the ridiculous things about this show is that German Nazis and Japanese can speak English well. The Nazis and the Japanese were fascists, and since they were fascists, I don't think they would make an effort to speak English. In a world where the Axis won the war, English would be as unpopular a language as German is today. Since German is the world language, different nations in the world spoke German to communicate with each other. Just like today, different nations communicate with English as a common language.

[@Tiisiphone]

According to WWII historians, Heydrich spoke french and english. Maybe not fluently, but well enough to communicate. Since he was SS counterintelligence's boss, being multilingual was probably helpful.

[@obiwanfx]

by the 1930's, english was already the number 1 language in the world and used a lot in international settings. well born high ranking nazi's would usually be able to speak it

[@MelThorburn]

Everything the National Socialists did was based on Race. English, a Germanic language, would be more than acceptable to them. However, in this world German would be used in all official business. As I said, the third reich would have no problems with English being the language at home. What would be interesting though , is what the Nazis would do to non European languages?

[@ristube3319]

That swallow is creepy but so glad they added it.

[@empedocles200]

3 cubes in a cup that small? So very sugary!

[@pauginer2644]

Why did the senior officer saluted first 😆 that was very rare in the military , and it will never happen

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

these guys are SS, they follow it differently

[@chicagolc7022]

Imo, this is one of the best shows ever made for television.

[@thewarhammerguy5995]

Until it got weird

[@dergebeater9614]

As a german i hear the englosh accent in the german speech. i dont know why the didnt hire german actors for the german roles

[@andrewwilson9183]

Probably because the legacy of the Nazis is still a touchy subject in Germany and so playing Nazis would be taboo. It’s for similar reasons that most or all of the Japanese roles in the show are mostly American or Canadian citizens with various East Asian backgrounds. The reason being that to the Japanese the idea that they were the villains of that war is still controversial.

[@modelcitizen72]

​​@@andrewwilson9183 Kido played by a person with Filipino background was pretty intense

[@andrewwilson9183]

@@modelcitizen72 Like a person with an Irish background playing a convincing British imperialist. Specifically someone who is pure Irish or has an Irish surname. I am part Irish, but I am also part English and Scottish, or British, so me playing a convincing British imperialist wouldn’t be very impressive.

[@oskarrmason9617]

If Heydrich is alive, what happened Gobcik and Kubis?.

[@bugwar5545]

They became playwrights and had a successful career after the war.

[@romeoraya9175]

It seems that heydrick was not assassinated in the parallel universe

[@vuho2075]

Anthropoid didn't work

[@JarodFarrant]

I hope they get him in the show.

[@quentincollins1825]

In real life, Lina didn't give a shit. Ice cold and totally frightening. 🥶

[@randbarrett8706]

Why does Heydrich say “captain” instead of the Reich-ified rank?

[@bugwar5545]

Maybe he wasn't SS, but regular army.

[@zerokrm8980]

SO ,,,,operation anthropoid didnt happen in these timeline .

[@scottm8292]

Either that, or it did happen but failed.

[@deancj1]

Well... The whole premise of the show didn't happen.

[@bugwar5545]

@@deancj1 Now imagine the krauts did win the war. Sixty years later they publish a TV series where the allies won. THAT would be a bit of television to see.

[@Thx-me3to]

Wait!? Isnt himmler with heydrich for the bergundian ordenstaat!?

[@tedb1918]

What is the symbolism of the grey uniform?

[@scottm8292]

Not sure if there is any symbolism, I think it's just the uniform that he wore in real life. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_and_insignia_of_the_Schutzstaffel

[@JSB103]

Hermann Göring used a light blue uniform he had ordered for no reason other than because he liked the color.

[@Rendell001]

@@jake.s7065 Not quite - the SS switched from the iconic black uniforms to grey in about 1938. The black uniforms might still be worn for certain dress occasions but the service uniform was grey. The sleeve diamond is of course for the SD - security service which a few departments were grouped under including the Gestapo, Sipo and the Kripo. While senior officers of the Gestapo would indeed wear this uniform, most rank and file members wore plain clothes since they were in fact Secret State Policemen. Incidentally, SD officers below the rank of Standartenfuhrer would have a blank collar patch on the right instead of the usual SS runes and the sleeve diamond on the lower left sleeve. This was to mark them out as being in a technically seperate branch from the regular SS personnel...

[@philipp7036]

@@JSB103 No he had a light blue uniform because he is the leader of the Luftwaffe.

[@JSB103]

@@philipp7036, exactly. He, in his capacity as leader of the Luftwaffe and one of the regime's head honchos, had the uniform tailor made to suit his taste. Who as going to deny him that?!! 🙉

[@dougbrowne9890]

One mistake I can see, with Heydrich. Like Himmler, Heydrich wore white cuff titles on the left arm. Not black. Oh well.

[@JjackVideo]

That's a lot of sugar for one cup of tea. Stuff is going to kill you.

[@Montley-376]

Ahh OberstGruppenführer, You've aged

[@alonenjersey]

Three sugar cubes for such a small cup of tea?

[@modelcitizen72]

Four!

[@alonenjersey]

@@modelcitizen72 Okay, four. But still. Wonder if the evil S.O.B. ended up w/ diabetes?

[@euphoria7046]

I really dont know what we would be doing if there were no Nazis.

[@saadibnasaadhusain]

Why do they raise their hands like that between 0:32 and 0:36? Why don't they use the typical Roman salute?

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

It's more of a casual use, the full raised arm being the more formal or fancy version while the other is more relaxed, typically used by senior officers and party members. The Romans had no official military salute, the idea came from Trajan's column where no one man salutes the same way and that idea was placed into a painting much later where men have their arms all full stretched.

[@kidfox3971]

So they couldn't even bother to make the blonde beast....blonde? Also how does Germany winning WW2 prevent Heydrich from dying? He was killed when Germany was still very much winning the war.

[@bigguy1164]

a/ This is thirty years on. he always had a receding hairline from all his real photos so it's not a stretch for him to be bald. b/ the war is drastically different than how it plays out in our timeline. Roosevelt was murdered in 1933. The United States has a president that's not sympathetic to the British. The British have to devote their energies to feeding the country rather then having the luxury committing time and resources to individual acts of assassination.

[@AutisticSoyDaddy]

In this timeline, the assassination attempt doesn't happen. As for his hair, he's just old.

[@mebhisntatownie]

1:24 unless they turn against the Reich

[@thepatriot3018]

I do have to say that the German have class

[@forest8779]

Tell me your a fascist without telling me 🤮🤮

[@YEEEEEBoai]

What was those cubes that he put in his tea?

[@scottm8292]

Sugar cubes

[@okidokiliteratureclub706]

Meth cubes to distract them from the severity of their crimes

[@forest8779]

LSD

[@bugwar5545]

@@forest8779 Viagra

[@geoff3103]

Did they conquer the Middle East as well?

[@scottm8292]

Probably.

[@bugwar5545]

Conquered or puppeted.

[@Akrafena]

There is no hope under the Black Sun

[@zerocool1344]

So how did Reinhard live if Germany won?, make no sense.

[@scottm8292]

In this timeline, Operation Anthropoid either failed or never happened. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Anthropoid

[@agentice7718]

Also in this timeline fdr was killed before he could bring America out of the depression

[@phaiz55]

Not sure what Germany winning the war has to do with his survival. He was killed in 1942 just months after the US entered the war. Plus in this time line FDR was killed in 1933. This alone had major implications on how we got involved and could indirectly result in Anthropoid simply never happening.

[@Christian-ki5js]

@@agentice7718 FDR prolonged the depression. He didn't raise them out of it.

[@curranfrank2854]

@@Christian-ki5js Hah, bullshit. Look at the US economic state before and after FDR, there were far less recessions and periods of economic downturn after the New Deal reforms were implemented compared to before.

[@CirnoSpaceProject]

looked at the comments, what’s the talk for sugar cubes all about? I don’t seem to understand what you guys are saying lol

[@erwinrommel9294]

Spoiler He captian new how Reinhard had his coffee because he was working with Reinhard. Though some belive the premise of the sugar cubes being enough to tell was kinda weak

[@modelcitizen72]

​@@erwinrommel9294 Four freaking cubes of sugar in that tiny cup is kind of remarkable. And the captain served the four cubes and no one batted an eye or said "FFS WE'VE GOT ICE CREAM IF YOU WANT DESSERT" etc.

[@peterkirby7546]

Never saw the show. So weird as an english guy to hear Rufus S doing an american accent.

[@forest8779]

Have you seen dark city? Or any villain role he's ever played (a million) I feel like the only movie he used his real accent in was old and that was a banger!

[@bman6065]

Guess his job in Prague went better in fantasy land

[@bugwar5545]

Yep. Much better than Roosevelt's.

[@studinthemaking]

Can someone explain Heydrich rank to me?

[@scottm8292]

Heydrich (in the show) is ranked Oberstgruppenführer, which is equivalent to General. Smith, in comparison, is an Obergruppenführer, equivalent to Lieutenant General. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_and_insignia_of_the_Schutzstaffel#Final_SS_ranks_1934%E2%80%931945 Heydrich in real-life was an Obergruppenführer.

[@studinthemaking]

@@scottm8292 Thanks

[@MelThorburn]

Strangely enough , at one time maybe 40 officers in the SS outranked Heydrich . However, Himmler made him his official deputy in the early 30s, and with that he then defacto outranked everybody else.

[@hubertopolski1625]

Did they thought that Heydrich was italian?

[@scottm8292]

No

[@BERENCEV]

It looks like comedy. Costumes are too flamboyant and would be great for dress up party, but not for the serious historical film.

[@scottianson5133]

So much wasted potential. A good book and mid television series.

[@bugwar5545]

And you would have done better?

[@powidel2118]

His fake German accent is so terrible 😂

[@just8310]

So is your mom's

[@powidel2118]

@@just8310 true

[@beornkhan2736]

True it sounds more french than german

[@leandromrosado1338]

Alerta de spolier . . . . . . 02:35 o cara se entrega que está conspirando contra o chefe porque ele sabe que o recém-chegado toma café exatamente com 3 cubos de açúcar

[@miguelleite3510]

4 cubos

[@leandromrosado1338]

@@miguelleite3510 verdade, reparei agora q têm 2 bem juntos q parecem um

[@miguelleite3510]

tranquilo é normal as vezes errarmos eu adoro este show e cada detalhe eu aprecio apesar de tudo e adorar imenso John Smith não gostei nada do ultimo episodio da 4 temporada deviam ter feito uma 5 temporada talvez uma 6 para explicar tudo como dever ser e ter um final digno mas nao a amazon teve de cancelar por causa da contorversia de publicidades nazis na america e compreendo o porque ninguem queria viver num mundo como aquele mas a eu adoro isto de mundos alternativos e este show tinha tanto potencial

[@leandromrosado1338]

@@miguelleite3510 verdade, cara. A 4 temporada foi bem mal escrita pra um bocado de personagem. E já começou sem o ator que fazia o Tagomi. É triste ver uma série com tanto potencial ter um fim meio cagado

[@ViniciusSSesti]

@@miguelleite3510 putz...é por isso? q merda, eu senti que a história começou a ficar ruim muito antes, mas não achei q fosse por isso

[@theisbielefeldt9932]

He calls out Reinhard on his rank as Oberstgruppenfurhrer. But that is wrong. Reinhard was obergruppenfurhrer. The rank oberstgruppenfuhrer came after his death in 1942.

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

I mean it can easily be explained that he got promoted after 1942, there is no real issue with the rank being made after his death in our universe

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

Its been years since WW2 in this universe, he wont stay in his rank

[@beornkhan2736]

*Obergruppenführer