HG Lunamaria's GELGOOG Menace Review | Gundam SEED Freedom

[@corey-cg01]

The Gelgoog Menace is the only seed freedom kit i want honestly, it looks so cool!!

[@mj2005gundam]

Looks quite basic on paper, but cool in execution

[@corey-cg01]

@@mj2005gundam tbh anythings better than the Hguc Gelgoog Marine. I have a lot of kits based off old molds or old molds. So this would be the newest if I get it. Right now the newest kit I have is the Ariel rebuilds.

[@StrikeNoir105E]

If you think of it as having a Gelgoog Cannon (original) face it still fits sort of.

[@bruticus1496]

I hope this and the Zaku warrior get into gundam breaker 4 game

[@shinigamikira9469]

This and the gyan storm look awesome

[@Zaku1000-s2q]

Didn't expect that intro

[@mj2005gundam]

I'd have skipped on it had it not been for the community taking character descriptions out of context and making a joke out of it

[@RevanR]

"She's just standing there *MENACINGLY!!! *" Damn, Jean is absolutely a winner to get this kit. I wonder what the Johnny Riden and Shin Matsunaga CE counterpart of this kit?

[@mj2005gundam]

That'd be up to the fans I think, since Fukuda did mention that SEED Freedom is the swan song of the main cast

[@CanonicalBomb]

This implies that Shinn is the Shin and Lunamaria is the Femur

[@mj2005gundam]

I kinda get the joke

[@megagundamva2694]

The what is the who now?

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@@megagundamva2694 It's a skeleton joke. Shins and Femurs are bones in the human body.

[@megagundamva2694]

@@BioGoji-zm5ph oh....still dont get it

[@First-Name_Last-Name]

Humor my femur, Rattle me bones, Ribbed, for her pleasure. My haiku, 1 April 2024.

[@BlueItem1]

Waiting on actually seeing the movie for most of the GSF kits, but I think I'll get this one regardless. Overall great design and I love the weapon variety.

[@mj2005gundam]

It is awesome by itself, so much so that the movie doesn't matter that much for incentivizing the purchase

[@a.p.studios8713]

I guess canonically the gelgoog is slightyl taller than the gundam in uc but i didnt expect it to be this level

[@mj2005gundam]

SEED is crazy sometimes

[@Zolan6157]

Damn that inf justice gundam has a tall girlfriend

[@a.p.studios8713]

@@mj2005gundam wow just got the hg gelgoog menace today if i had a nickel for every time i ended up buying and liking a gunpla of a mobile suit i initially disliked or didn't care about, i'd prolly be swimming in nickels

[@mattr75]

I was debating getting the Rising Freedom as I liked how that looked, but Gelgoog Menace looks surprisingly sharp

[@mj2005gundam]

You definitely shouldn't skip out on the Gelgoog Menace

[@Gatherway]

I would have been somewhat excited for this suit... had they actually given it a Gelgoog face. As it stands, this isn't a Gelgoog, it's a Zaku cosplaying as a Gelgoog.

[@mj2005gundam]

Then again, it's SEED we're talking about...

[@First-Name_Last-Name]

Zagoog Zakoog Gelku

[@Edward_Ardy4671]

@@mj2005gundam same mechanical designer too, kunio okawara

[@Kantstantinople]

Despite the flaws of the SEED Freedom line so far I still really enjoy the kits. I’d argue they’re just as fun to mess around with as the WFM line and are better in some aspects to their metal robot spirits counterparts. A solid line I’m gonna have fun completing for sure, can’t wait for the Destroy Gundam, Gelgoog Menace, and Gyan Strom to all arrive in the states!

[@mj2005gundam]

Hopefully the rest of the guys arrive soon for you, and I'm glad you're enjoying the kits despite their flaws

[@Lepon5]

Hoooooo boy, this is fantastic. Great review as always!!

[@mj2005gundam]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@HereticalKitsune]

Nice colors and design, don't care too much about the "halberd", but overall tempted to get it! Also nice to see a shield that can be held like a boss-held shield/buckler-style. Ah, my dear Kerberos Hound, so viscious and brutal as a pack hunter! Gotta love the BuCUE base and its variants!

[@mj2005gundam]

It is one of the nicer kits in the series so far. And I'm so glad the Kerberos Wizard is usable on this kit just in case someone has that instead of the ZAKU Warriors/Phantoms

[@reannoire4330]

A considerably a one of a kind HG kit despite the sticker usage. Since you mentioned the kits being loose from extensive handling, I can agree with that aspect. My copy of the Rising Freedom's backpack easily pops off, otherwise the joints are fine as it is. Although I wonder if Mighty Strike Freedom will be affected by the same issue of a loose backpack after the extensive handling.

[@mj2005gundam]

I'm glad this kit doesn't disintegrate upon extensive handling, and that I'm not the only one experiencing such issues with the SEED Freedom kits. With that, I worry for the Mighty Strike Freedom as people might switch between making it the Type II and Mighty

[@OtonashiV]

It's been about 2 months and my rising freedom and immortal justice are still solid despite occasionally switching up the poses. Idk if it's just the environment or if I'm lucky. I wouldn't really expect ppl to think of this as an army builder; it and the Gyan Strom were both next-gen testbed suits in the movie with only a few units made. Anyway, I'd like to see the HGCE Gelgoog Menace (Lunamaria Hawke Custom) (Hilda Harken Use) as a P-Bandai release. I just think seeing that as the name of the kit would be pretty funny.

[@mj2005gundam]

Well, occasionally switching up the poses is still less frequent than what I had to do during a review, so it's still a bit early to tell, but a warning worth heeding. Regardless, people who are prepping Railguns for their other units might get up to 5 of this kit just for that (before third-parties announced they'd be releasing the gun separately), so it's still a reasonable amount to have a team if they repainted it into the blue one. The name will be hilarious, but it'd be just as easy to get this, the GYAN Strom, and swap the packs. If Bandai really intends to release this exact version with the B.O.L.E.L.O. S just for Hilda's version, I'd be laughing out loud

[@AhCup]

I'm surprised by the amount of runners all these new Seed kits have but still require on sticker heavily to color correct.

[@mj2005gundam]

Okawara doesn't know when to stop adding accents

[@MasterSwo-MK]

@@mj2005gundam The man has a kink it seems. XD

[@milktenders6219]

Tbh I hate the stripes on the rising freedom wings and the wierd white edges and circles on the menace ones. The kit looks better without the stickers

[@branchygiraffe]

The adapter port at the back of the railgun is probably for the mighty strike freedom tbh, since it’s railgun attached to the side skirts like the normal double beam rifles

[@mj2005gundam]

Only time will tell

[@MasterSwo-MK]

I feel like the second mounting point on the Railgun might be future proofing for the Mighty Strike Freeddom and the Spec 2 units.

[@mj2005gundam]

I've looked, and the shapes don't look like they line up. Only time will tell though

[@KamishirasawaKatori]

This would be perfect to kitbash with Gelgoog Jaeger or Sazabi

[@mj2005gundam]

If only it were compatible with them

[@jansobieski3127]

What do you think overall about those new Seed Freedom kits ? I only have the Rising Freedom right now and I love it, love the Seed Action part and the kit is very solid, you can play with it and make different poses without everuthing's falling appart like some of the old kits. I would like to buy now some other Seed Freedom kits, maybe the Black Knights, Gelgoog Menace or the Immortal Justice.

[@mj2005gundam]

I personally don't like them as much as people would think. The only one that really caught my attention is the Gelgoog Menace, as the rest are highly color-inaccurate and/or loosen up quickly after a review session. It's not that I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt for engineering limitations, it's just the little things that taint my experience with them

[@seraphees58]

love your review man. Keep it up :)

[@mj2005gundam]

Thanks, will do!

[@1996starter]

Can we use Shiva backpack adapter to use the backpack on other 2 peg kits. The backpack might look good on some gm suits from UC

[@mj2005gundam]

No. The hole on the Shiva's back plate is not 3mm. Though the single hole to double peg adapters some Build Fighters weapon sets have might do

[@cabellism]

The design of this one and the one that based off of the Gyan, is about the only two im looking forward too.

[@mj2005gundam]

I'm so not looking forward to painting the Gyan. Apart from that, hopefully the kit redeems its character from the movie

[@cabellism]

@@mj2005gundam Tbh it doesn't look that bad. I've painted on worse kits. For me personally, it is just a cool kit, ive got zero attachment to any Seed Character.

[@mj2005gundam]

@@cabellism I mean, I'm sick of colors correcting their kits. Comparing the kit to the line art, it's obvious what went wrong.

[@cabellism]

@@mj2005gundam Oh, i haven't honestly payed any attention to the line art tbh. Working 12hrs at a factory, i get what i can get out of there. Just looked at the images between the two as i was writing this. Meh, it isn't bad, but the biggest issue between the two is the wings, so i can see your point. Colors to me are meh, i usually paint my kits. But the proportions and panels are not to far off for my taste. Could also just be the difference in backpack types for what is animated and what is produced currently/announced.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

I've always liked how SEED's take on Zeon machines always revives interest in UC Zeon stuff within the fandom, especially since it helps introduce those older machines to newer and younger audiences. Of course, it helps that I also really like the SEED designs for the Zeon mobile suits. I can't wait to get this. Out of curiosity, is the BOLELO A pack compatible with other High Grade kits from different lines? Or is it only compatible with other Seed Freedom kits?

[@mj2005gundam]

I'd agree, especially when Japanese stores sold out of the HGUC Char's Z'gok because of the movie. The BOLELO A. is mechanically a Wizard Pack so you can use it with the Zaku Warriors/Phantoms and the BUCuE Hound. The peg doesn't reach for use with the Strike, though I assume that single hole to double peg adapters can make it compatible with the universal standard kits as well

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@@mj2005gundam Ah, I see. It should be long enough to fit into the middle hole for the HG WFM Demi Barding, though, right?

[@Brawler_1337]

Building this kit now. I’m a bit saddened that the railgun and missiles aren’t attached to the wings by a 3mm peg. It would be really sick to make your own weapons loadouts with Build Fighters and 30 Minute Missions weapons. Missed opportunity from Bandai.

[@mj2005gundam]

It is kinda sad yeah

[@fallenrosemary7472]

Well if Luna is cowgirling shin she's definitely on top 🤣

[@mj2005gundam]

Let's see how much of a leader she is in the next sequel! Or do we not need to wait anyway as Shinn's and Luna's VAs are married?

[@fallenrosemary7472]

@@mj2005gundam I thought Shinn and Lubamaria VA already married

[@mj2005gundam]

​@@fallenrosemary7472 they are. The joke is, we don't have to wait for another SEED sequel for that to happen

[@neokaixa08]

Finally! The insight i need

[@mj2005gundam]

Honored to be of help

[@apartizann]

Is it possible to do a redux review of the HG Gundam Raphael?

[@mj2005gundam]

Since it's allegedly being reissued in July, it may be possible to do a redux Raphael review

[@Mate397]

A flying Kerberos would be neat but to me those wings feel a bit out of place for the 4 legged mobile suit. (I'm aiming to replace the secondary heads with something)

[@mj2005gundam]

Look towards the ZAKU Warriors

[@KripdomIII]

mmmmm not a big fan of the amount of stickers but overall this might be the only SF kit I get, thank you for the great review as always!!

[@mj2005gundam]

You're welcome, I'm glad you like it

[@pugwash1]

This maybe just me but I feel like when this was being desgined for the movie they probably took inspiration from not the original gelgoog but from the RF gelgoog (and maybe by extension for the gyan storm they looked at the RF gyan)

[@mj2005gundam]

I definitely see the resemblances. On the other hand, I don't think they did that much homework for the production of SEED Freedom knowing the retcons and inconsistencies they've thrown into the movie

[@TetsuyaReito]

膠量很可以哦😮，nice review bro👍🏻

[@mj2005gundam]

Thanks bro

[@maddoxsoileau8781]

May I ask, but what is your favorite seed freedom kit

[@mj2005gundam]

For now, it's this one. Things might change throughout the year though

[@HuyPham-uz3yz]

does the shoulder joints super stiff and hard to move when you build the first time?

[@mj2005gundam]

To a degree, but it's not too stiff so that they can be moved without worrying about breaking the joint

[@HuyPham-uz3yz]

@@mj2005gundam straight build, right?

[@Inactive.Kouryu]

I have plenty of reasons for buying multiple copies of this Gunpla. 😂 1. I super love the design. 2. THE RAILGUN (for use with the Destiny Gundam Spec II and the Infinite Justice Gundam Type II) Yeah. I have no life. 😅

[@mj2005gundam]

Paint the rest into the MP Type

[@Edward_Ardy4671]

Based on WiKi, this variant of GELGOOG was developed from ZAKU Warrior (Cosmic Era Zaku) EDIT: Also, that new rifle seems appropriate for Destiny Spec II

[@mj2005gundam]

I've read through the Wiki page, and it mentioned nothing of thr GOUF Ignited

[@Edward_Ardy4671]

@@mj2005gundam I was gonna say, it was developed from ZAKU Warrior and as for GOUF IGNITED, it was developed to Gyan Strom.

[@tannutuva695]

can you use the backpack on other seed freedom kits, like the inmortal justice?

[@mj2005gundam]

Not without a single hole to double peg adapter. You should be able to find something like that from add-on sets like the Galaxy Booster.

[@PaszerDye]

Never got warmed up to SEED or Destiny. Apart from laser spam, i didn't care for its tendency for winged thruster packs either. While it does look cool, it also feels lazy and cheapens the significance since almost every design has it. Still, I might get this anyway, along with the Gyan, the Murasame Kai & the Mighty Strike. These ones feel like they are worth it.

[@mj2005gundam]

I mean, the Goog and Mighty Strike Freedom are the two that I'd really recommend now. Can't say for the GYAN, but I hope future entries continue to impress. BTW I feel the same way about sub arms in Knights and Magic as you do for beam spam and wings in SEED

[@PaszerDye]

@@mj2005gundam Knights & Magic... Now there's something i haven't heard in years.

[@volatile5460]

Do you paint your kits all the way or is your matte top coat just *really* good?

[@mj2005gundam]

I do paint my kits, but this one needed no major painting. It's a combo of topcoat and lighting I believe. I also had to set my camera to depict its actual pink color instead of the orange in literally every other videos, else I feel like it'd be misrepresented

[@megagundamva2694]

im torn on this unit on the one hand its gelgoog and i LOVE gelgoog s like the zaku it's a favorite Zeon MS 2nd only to the Gouf, but on the other hand I saw a better CE variant made by a fan on deviant art years ago and he even gave me permission to make my own custom blue version (both are still on deviant art ). Design-wise its ok but again for a movie we waited 20 years for, and a fan design is even Better not to mention they are just taking Blatantly Zeon MS without even trying to make something new, The Zaku, Gouf, and Dom were a nice Throw-back, but this is Just Lazy and cheap Plagiarism. again, like the Rising Freedom and immortal Justice if they were for a Build series id have NO Issues i might even love them same for the Gelgoog and as a Gelgoog i want to love it and it does have some features I like, but I know this was just thrown in last minute cuz they were being cheap and Lazy and even then, i know they could have done Much more!

[@mj2005gundam]

Oh, remember the BuCUEs, CGUEs, GINNs, GOOhNs, etc.? Yeah, me too. On the one hand, I don't really mind the GELGOOG in a vacuum, but I can't stand the blatant plagiarism with it and the Z'GOK.

[@megagundamva2694]

@@mj2005gundam like I said Zaku Gouf Dom those are just a reference a callback but now with the gyan, gelgoog, and z'gok,......hello ZAFT, Zeon called they want their suits back or they'll sue!

[@megagundamva2694]

@@mj2005gundam and don't forget the Guaiz.... where is a new model of those

[@StrikeNoir105E]

@@megagundamva2694 I understand the GSF Z'Gok since it does look way too similar to the original, but the GYAN Strom is very different from the original Gyan in all the right ways. Hell, the GOUF Ignited and DOM Trooper are more similar to the Gouf and Dom than the GYAN Strom is to the Gyan. The original Gyan didn't have stuff like a beam rifle, revolving beam buzzsaw, or chest beam gatlings among others, and the GYAN Strom is notably more angular than the more rounded Gyan.

[@megagundamva2694]

@@StrikeNoir105E un less you count build variants like the gyan vulcan

[@Draig-zb2tx]

I'm really excited for the Gyan sturm. On one hand i love the gyan and it's an interesting take on the design, on the other hand i feel this line of kit is really overdesigned, and the stickers go too far for me.

[@mj2005gundam]

Okawara needs to know where to stop with the accenting. And yes, while I am looking forward to the Gyan Strom, I'm not looking forward to fixing the blue they messed up for the kit

[@MrDarksol]

Now we are 2 for 2 when it comes to the seed freedom kits finally proving their worth. I'm glad that this one is able to hold on to all of its accessories without falling apart or losing pieces and that in spite of the massive use of stickers you can easily just not use them if you don't want to or you can paint them in if you want. Not to mention the Rail gun does look really really cool and despite the fact that I was never a big fan of Luna getting the Zeon mobile suits, I can at least say that with this one it does look great it's very stable and the accessories it has are plentiful. Though now I can't help but think that Luna is probably riding Shinn like a dog with her eyes glowing like her Gelgoog...... What have you done to my brain lol. Anyway another fantastic solid review and great that we're finally getting another recommended seed freedom kit!

[@mj2005gundam]

I'm glad that they manage to nail everything with this kit despite the disagreements with cameras (They hate reds). This kit's only flaw is that Okawara doesn't know when to stop adding accents. Otherwise, it is a fantastic kit overall, one that doesn't suffer from extensive handling

[@birumerah2896]

can the packs used in strike gundam ?

[@mj2005gundam]

No, I've tried. The peg doesn't reach

[@birumerah2896]

@@mj2005gundam such a wasted opportunity by bandai

[@drakenzord2689]

It's either this or that cool looking Gyan

[@mj2005gundam]

So far, I'd pick this in a heartbeat. Though, that verdict still is one month too early to be delivered

[@TheLVJ]

Do you use a pop filter for your voice over recordings? I've noticed plosives while watching your most recent vids with my subwoofer on. It's pretty distracting, ngl.

[@mj2005gundam]

I don't. I really should invest in one

[@TheLVJ]

@@mj2005gundam your production value and presentation have really stepped up. It could only make it even better.

[@BansheeNT-D]

When a ZAKU Warrior cosplays as a GINN, which one already cosplayed a Gelgoog 🥸 BuCUE was peak SEED grunt design. :/

[@mj2005gundam]

I wish SEED could just do something original again when it comes to grunts.

[@setsunafseiei4745]

The Gelgoog that is Menace

[@mj2005gundam]

I wonder how the name came to be to be honest

[@khaisianteh4153]

Chimera Corps (ZAFT ver)

[@mj2005gundam]

Except there's only 2 variants

[@Zolan6157]

Would on that gelgoog

[@mj2005gundam]

Excuse me?

[@ez8-frame942]

This is only me but i dont find all of the seed freedom kits interesting or a must buy

[@mj2005gundam]

I don't find many of them all that recommendable to be honest. This and the Rudra are the only two I'd actually recommend

[@codychau6493]

Shinn your lucky bastard

[@mj2005gundam]

Meanwhile there's a loneliness epidemic

[@Matanumi]

I'm fully convinced Luna's character ONLY EXISTS due to the relationship the VAs had on every show they've done together

[@ru_gamerandotaku2431]

You cannow make you're destiny gundam into the spec 2 by giving it the other rifle I seriously don't know weather to cry or laugh at the destiny gundam idunno why but i always love that design and seeing it just be tacked on as a spec 2 by giving it a rifle and making it mostly grey is just i dunno man

[@mj2005gundam]

Yes sure, but I'm not gonna get another of these just for the railgun. And I agree that it's so lazy of them to reuse the Destiny design by giving it a recolor

[@ru_gamerandotaku2431]

@@mj2005gundam atleast for the justice and freedom they still got some new Knickknacks like the beam horn for the justice and that forehead laser for the freedom, i guess the destiny getting the zeus silhouette is still something but it still feels tacked on especially since it's not a exclusive destiny gundam upgrade as we saw the akatsuki use it i just wish the destiny gundam got its own upgrade

[@junker-f3m]

this is a good review but describing the number of runners in terms of how much "content" is in the box does crack me up

[@mj2005gundam]

I mean, there are a lot of parts in the kit for your 2900 yen

[@junker-f3m]

@@mj2005gundam no i understood what you meant, i just thought the specific wording was funny. like in my head talking about something having a lot of "content" is how you talk about like, how many TV shows are on Netflix or something, not a physical object. maybe that's just a me thing though

[@Christian-ll1hq]

The Physical/Beam Shield (Gelgoog Menace Version) is one of the dumbest shields I’ve seen in my life, pretty sure that’s a one way ticket to wasting energy town

[@mj2005gundam]

I honestly don't mind it, but more about how SEED just continues to rip the UC off instead of having any original ideas

[@borgar1765]

really not a fan of this design. Feels like a GINN trying and failing at a Gelgoog cosplay rather than a genuine Seed Gelgoog. The insanely long waist doesn't help either. I was hoping the runner placement could leave hope for the backpack alone being reused in another kit down the line but that seems unlikely. Alas.

[@mj2005gundam]

While your disappointments for the design are valid, the runners actually allow the BOLELO A. pack to be separate from the kit, as the A and B runners are entirely devoted to that pack. Now just to see if what looks to be the BOLELO S. on the Gyan Strom does the same

[@borgar1765]

@@mj2005gundam oh shoot, I did not realize that. neat.

[@ToaOfMyth]

Second.

[@mj2005gundam]

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