Hi Ren - Epic, Musical, Mental Health Story! Therapist Reacts

Therapist reacts to Hi Ren, a song about mental health, psychosis, chronic illness, and our struggle to accept ourselves.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:33 Reaction
19:03 Conclusion
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[@Therapy2Day]

How do you feel listening to his music?

[@badwolf1587]

If you continue down the rabbit hole, which we hope you do. Almost all his songs deal with mental health. As you will learn, one listening to his music is going to feel exactly what it is HE WANTS YOU TO! ❤😊

[@Therapy2Day]

@@badwolf1587 it's really powerful. I'm excited to react to his new release

[@badwolf1587]

@@Therapy2Day It never hurts to go back to "sick boi" "the tales" and more of his "older" stuff, RENEGADES are so adamant about going through the journey vicariously. You would be a great addition to the family . 😊. I'm 50 and haven't seen an artist with this much talent and charisma in my life. It doesn't hurt that ALL of his work is different than the rest and he DOESN'T MISS!

[@Therapy2Day]

@@badwolf1587 seems like his catalog is worth going through

[@badwolf1587]

@@Therapy2Day without a doubt. His fans have a voracious appetite for reactions and the vast majority will almost surely will love to hear your thoughts and insights.

[@CasperLD]

Ren is actually making a difference. A creative genius that wants to give a voice to the voiceless. To spotlight the things that are swept under the rug. Get behind this man. He is the real deal.

[@Therapy2Day]

Love that

[@averywillow4327]

I love watching new people discover Ren. The magic of that bit where he says the radio never plays his music is that he topped the UK charts with a recognition that started with this song.

[@Therapy2Day]

That's amazing!

[@dmj4966]

Ren is a musical chameleon....rapper, singer, pianist, guitarist, performance artist, philosophical genius....a modern day bard and without hyperbole I say, as a 57 yr old, the most important artist of the last 40 years

[@Therapy2Day]

He's got a lot of talent for sure! Im intrigued by what I've heard so far

[@dmj4966]

@@Therapy2Day one set of rapped bars in the middle of a sung song from his Back in 74/Message in a bottle re take---just 30 second as an example: The world is flawed when the power makes money and the money makes wars; The world is more than a place in space on a spinning board

[@Oohthehumanity]

Love this. My Ren knowledge base is pretty limited to this song, but I've def deep dived w/the one...lol. I hear new insight each time. But 1st time around, and only time I've ever had this reaction- actual mouth open/jaw drop 'holy shit!' takeaway..

[@Therapy2Day]

@@Oohthehumanity yep I can see how you could have that reaction.

[@dmj4966]

@@Oohthehumanity for the sake of shorthand, I might recommend Sick Boi, Mackay, and Back on 74 as they are all 5 minutes or less as a starter kit....then maybe the Jenny and Screech Trilogy all in one sitting, then maybe the Money Game Trilogy. U will be hooked

[@mark_white.]

at 56 this guy got my stubborn ass to seek help , ya Ren has serrious chopps.

[@Therapy2Day]

That's awesome, I'm so glad for you!

[@Oohthehumanity]

Love it.

[@LeeannG]

OMGGGG you’ve found my favorite artist of all time ❤ dropped a new song yesterday called “Troubles” for ME awareness month. It’s worth a listen as well. Thanks for reacting to this!

[@Therapy2Day]

I might just react to troubles as well

[@geofthompson3844]

​@Therapy2Day just a note for you. Ren just did a video essay in 8 parts. It's basically an autobiographical explanation of everything he's been through, each part concludes with a track that fits the story. And after the 8th part he released the new song which is an overall telling of that journey ending with a hopeful message for everyone who's going through what he went through. Maybe you should watch that essay before you react to the track recommendation you just got. If you have the time of course. . I think as a mental health worker it's well worth your effort.

[@Therapy2Day]

@@geofthompson3844 really cool the amount of structure and planning he put into this. Thanks

[@geofthompson3844]

@@Therapy2Day in life, timing can be everything. And I think Ren is exactly the right artist for this time. He has tracks that cover every mental health issue. From addiction to suicide, from depression to self worth. You may want to react to quite a few once you get going 👀😁

[@Therapy2Day]

@@geofthompson3844 I'm sure that'll happen

[@annaberkley7575]

Ren is not just an insanely talented musician and singer, he's a huge advocate for himself and others and the importance of mental and physical health. Truly inspiring is the community that has rallied around Ren and his music. I just started following the fan pages and sites and I've discovered that the fans are some of the most compassionate and empathetic people I've met on the internet. A quote Ren used in a live stream was "a rising tide lifts all ships" and this has become a quote you see on every fan page and site. Ren is inspiring others to lift each other up. As a 3rd year psychology student, I find this a fascinating phenomenon in these highly polarized times. There's something about Ren and his message that is so relatable and people are gravitating to it.

[@Therapy2Day]

That's really cool how supportive a community it is. I'm finding out how passionate you all are firsthand

[@Shiroar]

@@Therapy2Daythe Renegades are a force of love and support that shows up in great numbers whenever a reactor finds their way to the rabbit hole 😅

[@Therapy2Day]

@@Shiroar seems like it! ❤️

[@patrickquinlan3056]

Mental health issues emerge throughout much of Ren's music. Diazepam, Insomnia, Depression, Penitence, Patience, Everybody Drops, Heretic, Sick Boi, Chalk Outlines, How To Be Me and Suicide are just some of Ren's gems covering this subject. I enjoyed your reaction. new subscriber here.

[@Therapy2Day]

So glad you enjoyed! I think I might be looking into more of his music

[@patrickquinlan3056]

@@Therapy2Day Oh yes, Ren is very much a priority. Some say he is a genius. I won't argue with that but I will add something: Ren is a hero. As you may already know, in ancient times, heroes were honoured by becoming demigods in the eyes of the people. A shrine would be constructed and devotees would lie on the ground beside the tomb and sleep. In their dreams the hero would solve whatever issues were troubling them. Sometimes, instead of sleeping, they would enter an altered state of consciousness between waking and dreaming. They called it incubation. Curiously, this practice is preserved in Greek Orthodox monasteries and in the shrines of Sufi saints in Turkey and Iran.

[@Therapy2Day]

@@patrickquinlan3056 so you see him as a hero (maybe like a patron saint) for mental health?

[@patrickquinlan3056]

@@Therapy2Day No, I don't see him as a hero, I recognize him as a hero. There is a huge difference. Among other things I follow the work of Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell and Peter Kingsley, all of whom would probably recognize the same truth.

[@woodywoodman2319]

​@Therapy2Day Sir if you get to know Ren... aka, all 8 chapters located in his Troubles Playlist... then dig into his work... you'll see he has created a MASSIVE community and Yes... at the very least, he's a Saint!!!

[@donald1379]

Ren is probably one of the greatest artist you will ever come across.His music is very connecting so enjoy this incredible musical journey and i mean incredible welcome to the Ren Rabbit Hole👍

[@Therapy2Day]

I'm excited to hear more of his work!

[@cwilson463]

Another REN video to check out if you can is “The tale of Jenny & Screech (FULL)”.. May want to give viewers a trigger warning first though. Quite a lot of ugly topics are included in this trilogy of songs that should be viewed together to get how it all ties in together. There is ALOT that can be discussed from a psychological standpoint.❤

[@Therapy2Day]

Cool thanks for the tip!

[@blossomfrangibunny5990]

As well as all the songs by Ren listed above that deal with mental and chronic physical health issues Ren has also just released Troubles to coincide with ME Awareness Week. I encourage you to listen to all of them as they provide profound, personal and thoughtful insights that have resonated with so many, who are now all part of a vast connected online community.

[@Therapy2Day]

Oo thanks for the tip! Will check it out

[@woodywoodman2319]

Ren has more layers than an onion, more Bars than a Prison! Just when ya think ya have him figured out... the next song proves ya dont!!! Lol

[@Therapy2Day]

I do enjoy music like that

[@kirstenbowman1199]

I have had auditory herlucernations (sorry dyslexia) for over 30 years, the difference for my is that my voices don’t interact with me just each other. I talk about it as the noise in my head loud is a bad day soft is a good day. This song is a good demonstration of what happens in my head.

[@Therapy2Day]

Wow thanks for sharing. That is so hard to live with, where even a good day is never easy.

[@danrudnick5252]

I've watched tons of reactions to this song and you're the first person to catch that the "bully" side can actually provide perspective, managing expectations, etc. It's part of that dance.

[@Therapy2Day]

For sure, it's hard to accept that though

[@sharis9095]

You really need to react to his latest song Troubles. I know some people will say it's jumping to the end of his music instead of starting at the beginning but Ren put it our for Mental Health month and it's his story to tell. He also has an truly inspiring video when he hit 1M subscribers. While others say thanks (which he does) it's very empowering and speaks to mental health in a way that truly gives you something to hold on to.

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks, I'll try to do some background work, but I think for most artists, they want their work to be able to stand on its own too. I'll definitely have a reaction out to troubles in a few days

[@juliesmith7023]

I second this. He released a chapter every day of the week up until the song dropped. There is also a song included with each chapter. I would also recommend his million subscriber video and Dumb King Come, a "dis" track with a Ren twist. You will find that every single one of his songs is amazing and the range of genres is amazing.

[@Therapy2Day]

@@juliesmith7023 Troubles reaction is in the works

[@williamkeith8740]

Another RENegade subscribing to watch your journey down the Ren rabbit hole - there are plenty of twists and turns so fasten the seat belt. Ren, through his music & sharing his life story, has helped so many of us who struggle daily with mental & physical issues/disabilities. Every psychiatrist, psychologist and medical 'professional' should listen to what Ren has to say.

[@Therapy2Day]

Glad you're here and watching! I really believe it's so helpful for there to be poetic and artistic interpretations of mental health to convey the individuality of challenges that people face

[@mariajoseurizar5093]

Most def a new suscriber here! You’ll find that the people who gravitate to Ren’s Music are touched by how much emotion he can transmit, almost to the point you feel he looked into your soul before writting a specific song. He has Lyme desease, and it went missdiagnosed and misstreated for ten years, causing havoc in his fisical and mental health

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks for watching! I can see how he can really connect with an audience with his pain and struggle

[@furbie7918]

I would love to watch more of your reactions to ren (and other reactions too). You're well spoken and your opinion is valuable. I look forward to your reactions! ☺️✨

[@Therapy2Day]

Thank you for saying so! I plan on reacting to Troubles soon, so I hope to have you back in a bit

[@pirobot668beta]

What I find interesting is how many times 'Hopeful Ren' says "yeah, but..." He's acknowledging points made by 'Dark Ren', rather than simply dismissing them out of hand. These two know each other from way back...

[@Therapy2Day]

For sure, they are intimately familiar with one another, but sounds like they may have only started to dialogue instead of talking at one another more recently

[@ryanbrooks8045]

Such an awesome song by Ren. Sidenote, I would suggest that you resist the urge to full screen the vid so much. Keep in mind that most who watch reactions have already seen the vid. I know the instinct is to highlight the artist and the important parts but we watch these to see your reactions to it, not just the commentary. Good stuff though.

[@Therapy2Day]

That's fair. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

[@carolkellison9359]

Your analysis was dead on. You're the first person I've watched that stated the two sides need to integrate.

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks for watching. I may have just picked up on it because of my training

[@briminus]

I was directed to this video last night. It perfectly describes and shows my own experiences as well. When I make music the words in some are not mine. When he jolts his head and the distinguishing voice change I experienced over the last ten years. Even though it started at 15/16. I've been diagnosed with bipolar and psychosis for 5 years. Last April I woke up one day and couldn't feel my legs. Eventually causing a progressive paralysis. It's is a autoimmune disease called Guillian Barre syndrome. I've had to relearn how to walk 5 times in the hospital since last April. Recently, I a sense of peace. After being on benzos for three years; experiencing withdrawals every time id go without it. Severely. I heard a voice in my head a few weeks ago saying I no longer needed it. I experienced absolutely no withdrawal symptoms no anxiety or panic attacks since. When Ren talks about surviving the dark essentially I resonated with that. I'm currently finding this interesting sense of peace.

[@Therapy2Day]

I'm so glad you have some peace, though it sounds like a dark and twisted path that got you there eventually

[@bethellen1962]

Thank you for this very thoughtful reaction. Love Hi Ren & all Ren’s music. He is a gift & so are you. 🙏

[@Therapy2Day]

That's very nice of you to say. Thanks so much for watching!

[@arielbussart1305]

Thank you for this beautiful breakdown! Ren's newest song is a powerful message of hope worth sharing as well - Troubles - as others have said, Ren is a HUGE advocate of mental health and very loved by many who struggle with all sorts of ailments. He's a beautiful human with an amazing talent for connecting people.

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks for watching! I'm excited to hear more

[@mldkenny]

Love your intro to this iconic performance, always great to be reminded of the early part of his journey. Always such a pleasure to see a new reactor really getting the genius of Ren. I do look forward to hearing more reactions , my personal favourite is Penitence, Ren with Molly McKenna.

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@cultivatinggrace]

Thank you for speaking about IFS. Imo it’s a huge part of this song but most folks don’t know it.

[@Therapy2Day]

I don't imagine most people would pick up on something like that. It's not exactly mainstream at this point

[@jenk4653]

I am happy you as a therapist is reacting to this song and I hope you follow Ren and listen to his other music. Sick Boi is the follow-up to this.

[@Therapy2Day]

Good to know, glad you're here watching

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

If you're going to listen to Ren know 1 thing. He often sings from the dark part, so jarring and dark. It's like he's highlighting the thing he overcomes

[@Therapy2Day]

Sounds like it

[@blortmeister]

Welcome to the dance floor, mate.

[@Therapy2Day]

It's a lively one

[@thesingerintheshower]

Thank you for this!!!!

[@Therapy2Day]

Glad to do it. The music video was an experience!

[@stephenlackey5852]

This is art of transcendent beauty and an *important* song. Artists often struggle with imposter syndrome. There’s a movie starring Olivia Munn called “Violet” that rings of this and was a transformative experience for me-much the same as this song resonates. As a person who’s never been able to escape negative self-talk and imposter syndrome, *realizing* that I can exert the strength that destructive voice questions-strength that already resides within me-was sooo important. It takes time to push past the negativity-to make your own voice stronger, but if anyone out there is struggling with this, please please please *know* that you can do it. *Know* that I believe in you… but you don’t need me to-just like you don’t need the shroud of doubt that feels first of protection and then as a prison. You are *stronger* than that voice. You are stronger than you can *possibly* know… until you push back with softness or aggression-your choice.

[@Therapy2Day]

So important to recognize what we tell ourselves. Thanks for sharing

[@poisonidea]

Lovely reaction, thank you for your insights, Ren is by far my favourite artist, the words and music he performs are so true and well put, hope you will look into more of his content ❤

[@Therapy2Day]

I plan to, thanks for watching!

[@troy9er]

Subbing even before I listen. I knew you would like Ren!!!!

[@Therapy2Day]

That's faith right there

[@troy9er]

@@Therapy2Day you better believe it!

[@Gamerone64]

This song makes me feel like Freud is dancing somewhere seeing his human condition being put into song. The Id and the Superego arguing for control but in the end the Ego taking control of both as it should. We are the ego. Then the next step would be which wolf we feed.

[@Therapy2Day]

Interesting take 🤔

[@TheColdrush22]

First thing I have seen of yours. Love it. Subbed.

[@Therapy2Day]

So glad you're here!

[@liamireland9028]

Love this. not only intelligent buy handsome too....great song great feedback and freckles 😊 ❤

[@Therapy2Day]

Haha appreciate you watching!

[@liamireland9028]

@@Therapy2Day pleasure x

[@Oohthehumanity]

Omg yay..was so excited to see this in my feed! 👍As always, Isaiah, I love your style & approach to world of MH - your combo of 'chill + educated/knowledgeable' is a very nice add'n to the sometimes overwhelming cacophony of today's 'on demand' MH advice. I could listen to "Hi Ren" 100x and have 100 diff aha's. His lyricism and internal rhyme/rhythm abilities w/in one single line is mindblowing. Today I noted just how cruel & mocking our shame & self-loathing can be - he really stresses the mockery in the 'she sells sea shells by the seashore' segment. We are DEF our own worst critics. Thanks again for this!

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks so much for your kind words. I do hope I always convey that mental health is not a "get better quick" plan. But yes, his message is very striking how cruel we can be to ourselves

[@woodywoodman2319]

During his struggles, he studied Yung and the likes, even all forms of religious beliefs! Anything... truly Anything and Everything he tried to understand his illness! Misdiagnosis, used as a medicinal experimantal corpse, etc... You Seriously Need to watch all 8 chapters in his Troubles playlist... then come back and do his Troubles video on here! I think you can help us understand alot more of the horrors he lived thru! I myself am Extraordinarily interrested in hearing more from ya given your specialty!!! As im Sure... youre gonna be overwhelmed with Love from the RENegades!!! He has MANY songs you could cover! His lyrics are his story! His music is his escape! Ours too! Hes a Multi-instrumentalist, with No Genre to fit it! As he does them All, making them his own!!! Youre gonna enjoy his work! Especially having a musical background as well! His use of the devils tritone in here is missed by most! You caught his use of dissonance! He makes the music work for him in such a cool way!!! Hooe to see ya back with more Ren!!! Especially with Troubles! (After having done all 8 chapters yourself! Youll know Exactly what hes talking about then!)

[@Therapy2Day]

Haha I was never great at identifying chords but I could hear it wasn't the traditional one people would expect in pop. Thanks for the support and I'm excited to dive into more

[@woodywoodman2319]

@@Therapy2Day on a Serious Note... he's done like 4 or 5 interviews on here! One was with a therapist... don't think she was an actual qualified one! And it was Before his Troubles track and chapters! If you were to do watch them, then do his Troubles video, I'd bet money he'd do an interview with you on here! Especially this month! He did his chapters, told his story, and released Troubles solely for this month being ME awareness month! He Seriously tried to get it recognized, shared, and brought to light for this reason... Awareness!!! Matter of fact... if ya do... I'll do my best to get others to push the idea of an interview with Ren... to Ren himself! To close out this month!!!

[@Therapy2Day]

@@woodywoodman2319 that would actually be pretty sick! Ok all on board

[@barbarahatcher5942]

Thank you for bringing Ren and this powerful song to your subscribers. It might be interesting to do a follow up reaction to "Sick Boi." or "Suic*de" by Ren

[@Therapy2Day]

That may be up in future weeks! I've got another reaction to one of his videos in the works! 🤫

[@danieldoble669]

We’ve already seen the video 100 times. We actually came to see your reaction. Can’t do that with you off screen. Thanks. FYI

[@Therapy2Day]

Appreciate the feedback

[@alexrodriquez6574]

Ren really is a an absolute genius. I highly recommend that you watch Rens' story ( Chapter 1 - 8). It is Ren talking about his life from the beginning to now, about all the struggles he had to suffer through. It leads to his latest song ( Troubles). Enjoy, Ren is an artist like you have never seen. I promise.

[@Therapy2Day]

It's on my list of things to watch

[@woodywoodman2319]

Intentional... with Ren Everything in his videos is intentional!!! Lol Hes just as good at making videos, with little gems here and there!

[@Therapy2Day]

I can see that

[@johnekare8376]

Thank you!

[@Therapy2Day]

You're welcome!

[@BirgittHGer]

I think „Sick boi“ is a great one for you 😎

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks for the tip

[@yolandescheepers7262]

Yessss...❤❤❤❤ Love everything about him..his music is very close to my heart..❤❤❤❤

[@Therapy2Day]

He seems like a pretty awesome dude

[@rolokipp2113]

To your point about integrating factions of your psyche; notice how the non-verbal vocalizations at the start are almost pure "right-side" Ren - denying the aggressive "left-side". The end vocalizations (when Ren starts looking straight ahead instead of left or right) contain both compromise and aggression: much richer, more passionate. A subtlety I think many notice but few comment on.

[@Therapy2Day]

Ooo that's a great catch, where his gaze goes during the different characters and then integrating to speak directly to the audience

[@RootsMj]

Subbing to follow your journey down the Ren rabbit hole. It's a beautiful place of art of all kinds that will bring tears, joy, awe and everything between. Next step would be the Jenny & Screech Trilogy (do the full version will all parts in correct order).

[@Therapy2Day]

I have gotten a few tips for that. I haven't watched it yet, but is it the 13 minute video?

[@rveino2978]

🔥🔥🔥

[@Therapy2Day]

Thanks for watching!

[@DG-dy4tv]

Thank you for this! I am a "Renegade" but not so much that I've delved this deeply and I had no idea about these particular accounts. I was thinking it was just from his Lyme Disease and the meds and disease process since he was like 17 y/o. LMAO!!! You skipped the pig man intro. He does a pig head in every video. This is significant to his personal mythology, so it is also significant here. Man... I guess because you're psych for however long is because you don't cry, but I can't help but cry at this even after so many times of seeing it. I always thought psych would be cool, but I learned it wasn't for me when a patient became deluded from her Rx meds and named me Satan himself and all those she-devils out there would burn in hell with me and I found no humor or dismay in this except for the need to call for restraints and the extra documentation required. Respect for those in the psych field.

[@Therapy2Day]

I did unintentionally cut that intro out. I hadn't gone through enough of his videos to recognize there was a special significance to it. I don't think my lack of crying is necessarily due to me being in this field, I'm just naturally less demonstrative with my emotions. But yes I can see how his music can really connect with and affect people

[@melissaandjosh6210]

Highly recommend reacting to his new song Troubles. It’s his partial autobiography turned into a song. On his RenMakesStuff channel he did a multi episode biography that covers his full story and this song is that story. Great reaction

[@Therapy2Day]

Thank you, and guess what! I just posted a reaction to Troubles yesterday! Hope you get a chance to check that out as well

[@melissaandjosh6210]

@@Therapy2Day going to go watch that now. Thank you

[@Therapy2Day]

@@melissaandjosh6210 appreciate you watching!

[@theglowqueensade5419]

U should definitely react to depression and troubles from ren❤❤😊

[@Therapy2Day]

Troubles is on the radar for me to react to

[@AnotherFacelessDigitalNoOne]

If you like Jungian... watch tool, 46 and 2. Trust me. It's a rabbit hole because it tool. And you'll wanna hear everything they've done after

[@Kibashino2]

LESSS GOOO

[@Therapy2Day]

❤️

[@jasonremy1627]

Ren's latest song dropped just this past Thursday. It's another personal story. You need to see it. Welcome to the world of Ren.

[@Therapy2Day]

I plan on watching/listening

[@45Lonewolf45]

Ren was misdiagnosed for 8 years and put on different psychotic Medications that eventually caused brain damage, he was bedridden in severe pain for 7 years thinking every day was his last , he ended up having lime disease which was also ravaging his body All those years without knowing

[@Therapy2Day]

It's really crazy what he's been through

[@jasonhowell1849]

46 & 2 by Tool talks about the shadow self

[@Therapy2Day]

Is that another artist?

[@jasonhowell1849]

@@Therapy2DayTool is a progressive rock/metal band from the 90’s - present. 46 & 2 represents the chromosomes to achieve enlightenment. The song talks about breaking through the shadow self. It’s a great song and worth looking into.

[@Codex7777]

Although he references both mental AND physical illness, Ren's said that this isn't about either. It's about the human condition generally. It's told through his eyes though, so of course chronic illness and mental illness are going to feature, as does his music, as does religious imagery etc but it's not specifically about any of those thing. It's about the internal struggles that every human being faces. It's also about facing up to the fact that darkness can't be banished from your life, internally or externally. It's part of existence, part of life, part of who we are and helps shape who we are. Though dealing with darkness is never enjoyable, it can lead to good outcomes, both directly and indirectly . Often in unforseen and unexpected ways. Once you accept that darkness is an inescapable part of life and of who we are, that it can't be 'defeated' absolutely and it can't be banished, it's just part of life...life becomes a little bit easier and the darkness becomes a little easier to deal with and to mitigate. It's a simple but unpalatable truth, that many don't want to face up to. Btw, I'm not saying that this is the only meaning. I just wanted to explain what Ren meant when he wrote it. It's one of the joys of art that all interpretations are valid. :) Tbh, I'd assumed the meaning was clear, especially with that closing monologue, until I started reading the comments for the first time. People make a very personal attachment to Ren and his music. I'm the same. However people then project their problems onto the song and assume that the meaning is about that, or something similar. They're not 'wrong'. We all attach our own meanings and that becomes THE meaning, in our heads but we need to remember that, although entirely valid, they are our personal meanings and not a universal or definitive meaning. That's why I think it's always useful, where possible, to hear what the songwriter meant, when writing it, because although not the last word, it's about as definitive as it gets. :)

[@nicolefagala3270]

EVERYTHING Ren does is intentional. I should have gone into Psychology instead of Philosophy. Love it as a job but is not helpful in the navigation of life!❤😂

[@Therapy2Day]

Philosophy can be helpful; I know a lot of clients who are struggling to make sense of the world and life, and I think philosophy can help inform that

[@sarahsmith8780]

#RenMakesMusic #Ren #SickBoi #TheBigPush #SamTompkins #Viktus #TrickTheFox #RomainAxisa #GorranKendall #CHINCHILLA #EdenNash #MollyMcKinna #RubyJ #JointdaleRecords #LivSangster #Hexenkind1 #RenNotRen 🔥🔥!! 🌎❤️

[@Therapy2Day]

❤️

[@mikeduplessis8069]

You may have noticed in the song at the end he didn't play the final note, he didn't resolve the chord, leaving us with an unresolved sense of expectancy.

[@Therapy2Day]

I didn't mention it, but yes I had this lurch the first time I watched because I didn't think he was done yet. I kept expecting him to go a capella or something

[@randyrodriguez1445]

How can you “react” to something you’ve listened to before your reaction?

[@Therapy2Day]

Some of you don't want me to see anything before reacting, some of you want me to have seen all his work so I know all the context 🤔

[@sorenm.lairdsorries7547]

Welcome to the Rennaissance Isaiah @Therapy2Day and 🙏 thank you ❤ for your empathetic and insightful Ren reaction! I liked 👍 it and subscribed 🔔. Ren has got an awesome back catalogue, and I am looking forward to you discovering it. So what do you want to see and hear next? A ballady thing w/guitar? 🎸🧑‍🎤🧑‍🎤💊⚪ Ren X Chinchilla - Chalk Outlines (live). Rap? 🐟&🍟🌈🚢🌊 Genesis. Illest of our Time. Rappetyrap? 🐷 The Hunger. Boom Bap? Halftime (Nas Retake). Fun stuff? 👯👯👯👯❤🎶 Love Music. Raggae? 🎸🎸🎸🥁 The Big Push - I Shot The Sheriff/Road To Zion/Hip Hop (red suspenders). Hard beats? 💉🐷💊 Sick Boi or 🦁🐷🦍 Animal Flow. Goofy madness? 🚲🐺🦍 Losing It! (FISHER Rap). More EDM & Rap? 🥁 Down On The Beat. Masterly storytelling horrendously sad stories? ❎❎🎸🎺🏥🔪 The Tale of Jenny and Screech (full 13 min version). Another great one-take storytelling short movie? 🚗🔫 Murderer or 🎸💰🐚 Money Game! Deep thoughts? ☁ Dear God, Meaning or Dominoes. Trippy electronica? 🎹💊 Diazepam. Souly-folksy Rap? "Do you Believe?". Bluesy? "Hold On!" or 🚗 Everybody Drops. More singing? 🧑‍🎤 Humble. Acapella singing? 💰🐚 Money Game Part 2 (Live) or Loco. Acapella freestyle battle-Rap? 👑 Dumb King Come. Harmonies? 🦢 The Big Push - Swan Song. Crazy Punk? 🐰 The Big Push - XBox Marijoana. A song in French language? 🥖 French Song. Radio-hits? 🔥 Fire or 🍟 Uninvited. Have great fun! Renegades do not like when reactors do Violet's Tale before Jenny and Screech. Best to use this (13 min-long) version that has them in order: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioqkn6SHYpJ-jpI

[@Therapy2Day]

That's a lot. I love how interactive he is with his community, that's really amazing. I'm glad to have been introduced to his music

[@sorenm.lairdsorries7547]

@@Therapy2Day yes, that is my boilerplate for people looking for the wide-variety musical artist Ren. Not all of that is about physical or mental health, but his most recent single "Troubles" (just released this Thursday and a #1 on streaming services) is. Otherwise if you want to walk the path of mental health with Ren, you should check out the likes of Chalk Outlines (live), Power, Sick Boi, Crutch, How To Be Me (live), Blind Eyed, Humble, Diazepam, Dominoes, Pocket Full of Pain, Penitence, Depression, Everybody Drops, Heretic, Hold On, Lost All Faith, Masochist, Su:c-de, Seven Sins, For Joe, Mackay, The Big Push - Precious ... that again was a lot 🙂

[@Therapy2Day]

@@sorenm.lairdsorries7547 he's done a lot 👍

[@instigatorartworks]

The following is a post of Ren's journal that he posted before " HI REN" dropped. .. Your Welcome. jAN 01, 2023 rEN~ Up until I was 9 years old, I would intermittently hear a voice in my head that was not my own. The voice was distinctly different to mine, and always negative. It would self criticize or urge me to do things I knew to be morally wrong. The most peculiar thing about the voice was that it took no effort on my behalf to produce. My own thoughts always felt like there was a process that required effort to bring them to the forefront of my mind, this voice appeared as though it was spoken by another. The sentences felt predetermined like they had already been constructed. I remember very vividly at 9 years old, becoming very frustrated with the voice. I stood in my back yard, internally screaming at the voice to be silent again and again, and it did. In a flash there was silence, to the point where my head felt like an empty room. I wasn't used to the quiet and that voice never returned. It almost felt lonely in my head. When I got older I had intermittent bouts with auditory hallucinations where I would hear perfect symphonies, usually at night when drifting off to sleep. They were so clear that they sounded like they were emanating from a radio in the corner of my room. I knew they weren't there, but for some reason they never came with the feeling of fear. I also recall sitting on a bus at the age of 15, and hearing the sound of a crowded room, with about 100 voices chattering away, I was the only person apart from the driver on the bus. These experiences were always very brief, and few and far between. My last hallucination was during an intense bout of psychosis in 2015, and was my first visual hallucination. I was walking down a pavement after jumping out my mums car in a crossroads in a moment of frustration and distress with my condition. I was trying to run from myself. What appeared to be a homeless man with a dark complexion approached me, and asked me what was wrong. I explained that I had been sick most my life, and I wasn't sure I had the strength to continue. He looked at me, and smiled and told me 'everything is going to be okay in the end Ren.' I had not told him my name. There was something so overpoweringly sincere about this very simple message, which brought with it an overwhelming feeling of inner peace, and in a flash, he vanished. My rational brain always linked these experiences to what the doctors have told me, that there are parts of my brain compromised by the autoimmunity in my body. That the myelin sheaths surrounding the complex electrical system that conduct my thoughts were damaged and compromised, causing these lucid experiences that I knew did not exist inside the physical world. The part of me that edges away from logical and rational thought always attributed these thoughts to some kind of otherworldly intervention, that made my thoughts the battleground of some spiritual tug of war. For a long time I never really acknowledged this part of myself, for with it brought the danger and stigma of sounding like a crazy person. I decided with my latest release, to the best of my ability, to capture and express this chess match of thought. Hi Ren comes out in just over 24 hours. I can't wait for you all to hear it.

[@Therapy2Day]

I read portions of this prior to starting the reaction, thanks for posting it here

[@instigatorartworks]

@@Therapy2Day Yes I recognized it right away and thought maybe some of your subscribers may want to read the entire thing. No problem. Great reaction.

[@TrueCrimeDoula]

Unrelated - but can you do a reaction video to the Baby Reindeer woman, Fiona Harvey on Piers Morgan?

[@Therapy2Day]

Haven't heard of the story, but I'll check it out and see!

[@TrueCrimeDoula]

@@Therapy2Day Oh, then it's going to be a little bit of a commitment! "Baby Reindeer" is a series on Netflix that has been trending in the number one position since it was released, a few weeks ago. It is the true story (allegedly) of a woman who stalked an up & coming comedian and what happened along the way. It's a deeply psychological story because the comedian was battling a lot of demons and somehow this stalker was filling some need he had, despite him being greatly annoyed by her. But currently the woman accused of stalking him (Finoa Harvey) has come forward! And Piers Morgan in the UK got the scoop by interviewing her on his show. She's really odd and deceptive sounding even as she insists that certain key things didn't happen and she in fact is the victim of HIM stalking her!

[@Therapy2Day]

@@TrueCrimeDoula o wow that's pretty intense! Even if I don't react to it, it may be worth a watch

[@KittyInTheGarden]

Please could you react to Ren's song Su*cide?

[@Therapy2Day]

I'll give it a listen and see!

[@mark_bloomberg]

I enjoyed your thoughts on "Hi Ren", but wish you would have analyzed the whole thing. Did you edit out the beginning because you didn't think it was important, just fluff? Having read his history , I tend to think that you probably understood the whole butcher/monkey scene at the start and did not want to talk about it. If that's not it, I'd urge you to revisit it. It's kinda important. Looking forward to checking out your other videos.

[@Therapy2Day]

I definitely don't have all his backstory, but I did realize that after watching some of his other videos that the butcher shows up in many different videos, I didn't know enough to comment yet what my thoughts are. Except the character did bring to mind Professor Pyg from Batman

[@mark_bloomberg]

@@Therapy2Day I think it speaks as to his feelings about the medical field, with his experience and that they are "butchers" or that it is more of a horror show than we think.

[@Therapy2Day]

That would make sense

[@Cerulean926]

Ren did eventually share what the pig man in his videos represents to him, but for a long time he wouldn’t share his own meaning, as he likes people to form their own interpretations of what it means to them personally, and he enjoyed hearing everyone else’s thoughts. 😊

[@Therapy2Day]

@@Cerulean926 that's pretty cool that he treats his work as an open book for people to write their own meanings as well

[@gregschindler184]

Why did you cut the beginning of the scene where he is wheeled in by a guy covered in blood wearing a pig mask?

[@Therapy2Day]

My first ren video, didn't realize it was a recurring image

[@user-tz3dh6bu1p]

Love finding new reactors to Ren, However on your analysis I feel is a little off, He has had very mild mental issues I say from folks breaking up and uprooting his scene of normalcy . But he contracted lyme disease when he was 19 and went misdiagnosed for 7 years and it destroyed his body . Being sick and frail for years confined him to bed and solitude with no answers why he was always so sick.. Then the Psychologist entered his life and they diagnosed him with to many to remember, But basically telling him his mind is making him sick and allergic to everything he consumes. He explored the internet and found his own answers. But the Lyme disease has done so much damage to him with autoimmunity and M.S. which he may never be cured from.. But even with all the doubt he is still going to daily medical treatments and has got to be a difficult time. Such a long fight from someone that just wants LIFE ! Listen to his new one.. TROUBLES.. it will give you a few answers .. Very nice reaction.. Spread Rens message then go into his u tube and listen to his older lyrical videos they all have messages of hope and acceptance ..

[@Therapy2Day]

I appreciate that he may have begun with mental health not being his main concern, but the psychosis, as well as a longstanding struggle with his physical health, I imagine would take a huge toll on his mental health. This song really seems to be a struggle between hope and despair, and that's how I felt the mental health piece of all this

[@user-tz3dh6bu1p]

@@Therapy2Day Try his EVERYBODY DROPS song

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

As good Ren gets angry it leads to nasty Ren taking iver

[@Therapy2Day]

👍

[@debrashrider4062]

Oh my dear, you left out the Pig Man! He is a reoccuring part of Ren. Sigh. Its ok. He is not too important to this song and you will see him in more songs.

[@Therapy2Day]

Yes others had noticed. He certainly does show up in other videos

[@strange4you]

music???? hahahahaha

[@Therapy2Day]

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[@alaskahelo]

You watched what is probably the greatest depiction of the war between the Devil and God that has ever existed and interpreted it as, "mental illness". To be fair, so do most of the other people I've seen who have done reactions to this. I wonder why so many people shy away from the obvious. I do mean, OBVIOUS. Lucifer "You're the sheep, I'm the shepherd, not your place to lead me Not your place to be biting off the hand that feeds me!" "I was created at the dawn of creation I am temptation, I am the snake in Eden I am the reason for treason, beheading all Kings I am sin with no rhyme or reason Sun of the morning, Lucifer, antichrist Father of lies, Mesophiles Truth in a blender, deceitful pretender" "I live in every decision that catalyzes chaos That causes division I live inside death, the beginning of ends" You were listening to the voice of the Devil himself. Wren was foundering under the attacks, becoming angry afraid and desperate and when he was staggered under the worst of the maelstrom, he leaned into God who spoke through him. Ren "I was made to be tested and twisted I was made to be broken and beat I was made by His hand, it's all part of His plan That I stand on my own two feet" God through Ren "And you know me, my will is eternal And you know me, you've met me before Face to with a beast, I will rise from the east And I'll settle on the ocean floor And I go by many names also Some people know me as "hope" Some people know me as the voice that you hear When you loosen the noose on the rope." Now, you might be wondering why Lucifer would take a personal interest in this guy and Wren explains it, after the song. "When I was 17 years old, I shouted out into an empty room Into a blank canvas, that I would defeat the forces of evil" Ren, in ignorance and arrogance, challenged Lucifer fucking Morningstar to a fight and Lucifer obliged him. "And for the next 10 years of my life, I suffered the consequences With autoimmunity, illness, and psychosis." Maybe I'm wrong but compared to the trite and easy 'mental illness' diagnosis... I'm not as wrong as that.

[@Therapy2Day]

I think art can mean a lot of different things to whoever consumes it, even if it wasn't necessarily intended that way by the artist. I think we can look at what ren wrote about this piece to get some context, which for me seems to point to some mental health aspects, but I see a lot of the religious imagery you point out as well

[@alaskahelo]

@@Therapy2Dayit is reasonable to assume a fight like that would leave mental trauma. I'm not 'anti' psychiatric industry but it is the case that much of it is just an endless parade of variations of the latest brand of snake oil.

[@frankbevan413]

cuts the beginning of the video -- then shows the wrong words to the song

[@Therapy2Day]

I think that would be something you take up with KZbin's auto captions. I think it's hilarious that someone might think I'd manually enter captions that wrong

[@frankbevan413]

@@Therapy2Day I know that for a "therapist" to do a half ass job on youtube = when trying to spead a message of positive mental health. Doesnt bode well Its not like you have to much = all you have too do is stand on the shoulders of others and gain subscribers. You thought

[@Therapy2Day]

@@frankbevan413 it hurts me that you would say that about the video that was put out by Ren's official channel! 😂 Yes KZbin does auto captions, and no, they do not do well with rap

[@frankbevan413]

@@Therapy2Day Hurts me more that you let it go unchecked --- mind you i dont think many deaf people suffer from mental health problems that much so you could well be correct in letting it go unchecked, so correct captions expected from a therapist proberly is asking too much = what i would do is blame Ren. Even though Ren never released the video with captions.

[@Therapy2Day]

@@frankbevan413 you assumed I used an incorrect video from another KZbinr 😂